I can see what 2016 Suprak was saying, but I think old me was taking things too seriously. Gundham is fun precisely because of the stuff I was complaining about. The fact that he goes on these insane tangents about the nature of humanity and the fires of chaos or whatever, and is just a dude that is really, really into hamsters makes him weird and funny and kinda endearing.
I mean, I'd rather have him than someone like Peko who is just sort of a boring filler character that doesn't add anything to the scenes she's in. I don't mind someone like, say, Mahiru, who even though they don't have this big outlandish personality, still feel like they have a well established character with fun or interesting stuff to say.
I do agree with past Suprak that Fuyuhiko just kinda sucks so far. I feel like they were trying to make another Byakuya but Byakuya was already here and they completely missed what made Byakuya fun to hate in the early chapters last game. He was intimidating in terms of his personality and intellectually. Fuyuhiko comes off as kinda a bully, but not even a good bully. He doesn't scare me because a little kid mob boss without the mob backing him is just kinda a spaz that is screaming about how tough he is with nothing to back it up. Think Joffrey Baratheon except Joffrey Baratheon works at a grocery store. I also don't really like his character design.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Which Free Time(s? I forget how many free times there are) did you do this time. 2016 Suprak mentions Akane but unless I missed it 2020 Suprak didn't say!
there are right and wrong answers you will be judged
Uh oh.
Well, I'm going for the platinum this time so I want to get everyone's free time. And I wanted to do it so I can character's I like less out of the way first so I can save the better ones until the end since I'll be doing free time mode or whatever it is called right after this. Let me just preface my answer with those qualifications first.
So I did mostly Teruteru. Partially because I know he's going to die and was just kinda curious what sort of back story they were going to build up for him, and partially because he is at the bottom of the list of characters I care about and just kinda wanted most of it out of the way as quickly as possible. I also did a little Byakuya. Again, knowing he was dead soon and also a little curious if they said anything at all about why he is back, why he is omitting the fact he's done this before, and why it looks like someone inflated him with an industrial strength air pump.
Sadly I did not find any of those answers.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
That's another thing I've been mulling over. I don't like thinking about this stuff too much because I'm afraid I'll spoil something by figuring it out too early.
But I think the triad of Byakuya-Nagito-Hajime hides one of those characters that is working with Monomi/Monokuma and maybe has both of them. I cannot figure out what is going on with Byakuya and why he is back. He dies here but no way is that the end of his relevance to the story. It would be very weird for them to bring him back for no reason just to kill him off immediately. And especially causing such a drastic change to his appearance for seemingly no reason. I don't think they'd turn him evil, and feeding him up as first chapter fodder seems even less likely if he doesn't have a greater role in the story.
Sooooo...was he working with whatever Monomi was doing? She seemed to be trying to keep this group safe, which would make sense considering the world seemed to have ended almost by the end of the first game. Sort of a "this will be for your guys own good if you stay on this safe secluded island away from the chaos". And Byakuya was helping?
...but why the hell is he so fat? Of all the mysteries, this is the one I have no theory of other than the possibility an artist had an engorgement fetish and didn't show any one else the artwork until it was too late.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Reading plum's topic made me think of something I really genuinely appreciate about Danganronpa.
Something that bothered me about the first Professor Layton game specifically (and the follow ups to a lesser extent) is how those games cloak themselves with the veneer of rationality. Layton is an archeology professor and what he's investigating is a missing person case. The town he's visiting seems quirky, but everything you see especially at the beginning is setting you up for something based in logic and reason. So then when the twist is "lol the ENTIRE TOWN is robots that look identical to humans in every way and there is one mechanic keeping everything fucntional" it just feels...off. Like the last part of the script was written by someone else entirely. They don't ease you into it, and by pretending this is a universe similar to ours and based in reason, it makes the plot the worse for it. You cannot anticipate the crazy.
In Danganronpa, the literal first scene is a teddy bear shoving a man into a rocket, who then comes back down into space as a literal skeleton. That is what a game like this needs. Some of the twists are WEIRD and the game is bonkers, but the game tells you right away "hey, we're going on a trip to crazy town, so if you aren't ok with that you need to get off board now and go play something else." There is a suspension of disbelief I am absolutely willing to take, but only if you show me up front. If you show me three quarters the way through the game, I'm going to feel like you didn't have a story in mind and are just making things up as you go.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
2016 Suprak Time Traveling to 2020 To Share His Thoughts
Damn, didnt see this coming. So many unanswered questions about Byakuya. Like did we rule out the possibility of his heart exploding? I wouldnt rule that out tbqh.
Part of me refuses to believe Byakuya is actually dead because of the way theyre refusing to show his face. Maybe its just tiny Mafioso dressed in a Byakuya fat suit! BYAKUYA LIVES ON DAMMIT
Mikan volunteers to do the autopsy since shes good at medical stuff, but when I try to talk to her about it we instead get a flashback of her throwing her hoo-ha in the air again. DAMMIT GAME IM ON A PLANE. I can just imagine the doctor I was sitting next to telling a story when he gets back about the guy playing a porno on the airplane. IT ISNT A PORN OLD MAN YOU DONT EVEN SEE ANYTHING STOP EXAGGERATING
Gundham is predictably useless. Byakuya is dead but the dude literally refuses to stop looking for his stupid little earring, Priorities, man. We see it between the floorboards, which is probably meant to be a clue that someone can crawl underneath there or something.
OOOOH Byakuya was probably killed from underneath the floorboards. Like someone stuck something through there. He saw the glowing knife and when he was grabbing it they started stabbing away. if thats true though why didnt he say ouch or owwie or hey stop stabbing me? He didnt die instantly from a knife stab.
Hmmm. Was Byakuya trying to kill someone maybe? Like he smuggled the knife in and was going to use it on someone when he got killed himself? So basically a repeat of case 1 of the first game!
Byakuyas secret second case has survivor gear in it. Just what the hell were you planning, big fat Byakuya? Why all the survival gear? Hosting a big party like this and making sure no one was armed but bringing a huge kit of random survival stuffthis sounds like he was planning to murder everyone.
Fake protagonist wants me to come with him to finish the investigation. Probably to murder me if I start getting too close to the answer. RUN HAJIME DONT FOLLOW HIM!
Sonia has never seen a fire door and we take this opportunity to tell her how out of touch she is. Where the hell do you two live that there are fire doors everywhere?
Teruteru claims he couldnt see in the kitchen either and we get a clue about that. Oh so hes lying? Or what is the point of this? That its dark everywhere? If fat pervert chef killed based Byakuya, then I will be heartbroken.
The long skewer thing is still missing from the inventory. Yeah, game, I got that it was the murder weapon before a murder even occurred.
There are three irons in the back room that fake protagonist claims where running when he checked back there for Byakuya. Aha! So the murderer will be the guy wearing that really nice, freshly pressed shirt, eh?
There is a bloody tablecloth in the clothes bin and fake protagonist is like oh if you think its a clue maybe it is haha who knows lets leave, right? while rapidly shifting his eyes back and forth and sweating profusely. Yeah, totally not suspicious at all!
Bathrrom is still locked. Either this is a clue or someone has really bad diarrhea.
We try to talk to Peko and at first shes all like look, I know how this looks but I really didnt do anything but then is immediately like POOP I MUST POOP. Haha Im beginning to think this whole who has to poop thing might be a clue! Like maybe someone poisoned some people? Both Nekomura and Peko got some bad shellfish? Although it did already tell me only Peko and Akane got food. HMMMM.
Peko probably didnt do it because the game keeps throwing her in my face as a suspect. Maybe she just wasnt guarding the room because of diarrhea and not murderrea!
We check Byakuyas place and notice a very threatening note in which someone told Byakuya that someone will definitely die tonight. I like how Byakuyas plan is not to warn us but to gather everyone in a very small space with the murderer. Great idea, Byakuya! The game is like oh he did this because if he told us the truth we might start to lose trust in each other." Psst. Byakuya's corpse. Psst. Ahem. THERE IS SOMEONE WE SHOULDNT BE TRUSTING THOUGH AND NO AMOUNT OF CAKE WILL FIX THAT. Maybe he just wanted to play charades where he would act out one of us plans to kill someone tonight. Always had a flair for the dramatic, that one.
Fake protagonist excuses himself to dostuffand Im sure it is nothing evil and he wasnt being intentionally elusive for no reason!
We find Chiaki checking under the house to make sure there was no way to get under there from outside (good idea) and Gundham trying to force he was under to find that five cent earring he lost (not good idea). Chiaki you are mildly competent take five Suprak respect points. Oh, also we find the mini-Mafia guy. He was apparently just wandering around outside in an effort to make himself look like as much as a red herring as possible.
We get a map of where everyone is standing during the murder and Nekomura finally is able to take his poop. Both of these are clues. Both. Even the poop thing. Never thought the time it would take someone to poop would be a clue in this game, but hey, what do I know.
We make our way to the beach for the first class trial. WOOOOOOOO ABOUT TIME HYPE HYPE HYPE. The good news is I dont know who the killer is this time. Not having your name written upside down at the crime scene already makes this culprit more capable than Leon!
Current money is on Nagito for murderer, but there are still things I havent pieced together yet. Like, I think Byakuya was lured under there by someone who put the glow in the dark tape up there so Byakuya would see it and investigate. Although it is kind of dumb for someone to have made that a knife, I guess. Couldve just put the tape and it still would have glowed.
Lots of parallels to first game. Interesting to see how this will play out.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Superior 2020 Suprak's Superior Thoughts And Musings
Monokuma: He has such a horrible expression on his face, dont you think? Image shown: Byakuya face down underneath a table with 0.0% of his face visible. Conversation that took place at some point: Hey someone told the art department to make sure we can see Byakuyas face right? Hmm sorry the only note we appear to have sent over was more Mikan vagina. Well at least we covered the important stuff.
Peko shows up late and it is like the game is TRYING to throw suspicion on her. Oh Byakuya is dead and I just wandered in before the body announcement happened for no reason cough cough so whats going on everyone.
Monomi shows us to tell us not to believe what Monokuma is saying, which seems like bad timing considering what he just said is someone here killed Byakuya which is objectively true.
Holy shit Monomi is COVERED in blood after Monokuma hit her. Are these things filled with blood? WHY? WHO FILLED THEIR ANIMATRONIC WITH BLOOD AND EXPECTED IT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN COME TO LIFE AND CONSUME HUMAN FLESH?
Mikan volunteers to do the autopsy because she has medical training, which kinda sorta makes sense. I mean, what we really need is an Ultimate Mortician but I guess even a nurse can probably tell hey the blood is coming out of these holes in his chest so thats probably important!
You know, I think I am remembering almost all of this case now that I play it again. Nagito was trying to killsomeone with his glow in the dark knife and Byakuya shoves him out from under the table only to get killed by Teruteruwho was trying to kill Nagito? I dont remember why he was trying to kill Nagito or exactly how Nagito caused the blackout or why Byakuya didnt deflate when stabbed, but I have the general outline of the case already which will make this easier.
It is weird to have this additional perspective because now I am noticing small errors I didnt see my first time through (or at least I dont think I did). Byakuya was supposedly stabbed from under the floor by Teruteru, right? But if that was the case wouldnt his wounds be in straight lines? Like, for the slats between the floorboards, they make a big deal about being large enough to stick something through earlier in the chapter, but even if Teruteru could fit something through, you wouldnt think the wounds would be all spread out like this over the body. It should be like two parallel straight lines of wounds, right? Maybe Im forgetting something else and it makes sense, but the victim report shows the stab wounds pretty much all over his torso. Sloppy forensic work by Monokuma, maybe.
See this is why I like Gundham. He has this huge long aside about the hell hound earring he received for fighting back this bloodthirsty beast and he builds it up and up and then hes just like yeah I need it to commemorate that time I bested that Pomeranian. Thats just good writing, and it made me smile. SUCK IT 2016 SUPRAK.
I like Mahiru here too. I feel like she has a very human reaction to Byakuya dying which is in stark contrast to Gundham losing his mind about his fake mythical earring.
Oh pictures! See, I knew her camera skills were going to be used.
She managed to capture a picture of what looks like Nekomaru midway through soiing himself. Ew.
I dont know what else Im supposed to draw from this. Nagito was in the back of the room, maybe? Like he was getting ready to head to the table or something? They spend a long time on it and Mahiru says shell draw out a diagram of where everyone is standing, so it is clearly important in some way.
Nagito points out Byakuya was alive before the blackout and dead after it sohe mustve died DURING the blackout. Yeah, great detective work there, bud. Never wouldve pieced that one together.
Wait Mikans exposed vagina is a CLUE? A clue to what? Is someone going to go I was furiously masturbating to the way the dinner rolls were arranged and I need to present this as contradictory evidence? I dont remember this being important at all.
Haha I didnt realize it before but the picture literally says SPREAD EAGLE on it when it pops up as Mikan talks about it. I feel like Im looking at a Ben Garrison attempt at hentai.
Every now and then this series gets a bit too coy with what is an obvious piece of evidence. There are night vision goggles under the table, and a case in Byakuyas big case that looks exactly like their shape and size. And yet Hajime has to be coy about jeez I wonder what was in there. Everyone else figured that out like ten minutes ago game, so no need to be shy with it.
The toilet is still locked and whoever is inside is too shy to say anything when we knock. I dont know who it is, but Im going to guess not Nekomaru as that was the dude yelling about him pooping a couple of minutes ago and I feel like they wouldnt have missed the opportunity to use that voice line if he was the one in there.
Monokuma is the one who reset the breaker which is a weird thing to have happen. Dude is straight up working against the killer. Imagine how much more the killer couldve gotten done if everyone was stumbling around in the dark for ten minutes trying to get out.
I dont know enough about A/C controls, but are there ones that let you set the temperature at 86? That seems like an absurdly high temperature. Might as well just be in a sauna at that point.
Kazuichi thinks the killer has to be Peko, which was one of Supraks suspects in 2016, too. I am vaguely insulted that the idiot character had the same theory as me.
For some reason it is funny to me that Kazuichis account which is him accusing Peko of being the murderer is obtained by talking to him in the same very small room Peko is in. He should be like yeah Peko has to be the killer and then she should cut in and say hey I can hear you, you moron
Peko has a clear case of the poops and Nagito tells her to go use the toilet at her cottage. Hajime, who might actually be a robot, is unfamiliar with the concept of poop apparently and wonders to himself where she is heading off to.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I hope there is a segment in the court case where I have to try and spell out DIARRHEA because I know how to spell it now thanks to spellcheck.
I accidentally click on Ibuki a second time and I have to click through her entire forensic audio investigation of who said what during the blackout a second time. CURSE MY FAST CLICKING.
Sonia: I see! It is like a barrier! Just like lining up plastic bottle around the house! Hajime: thats only done to keep cats from getting in. wait, what? Is this some weird tradition Ive never heard of? I googled it and apparently it is an old gardeners trick because half filled plastic bottle reflect light or something and cats dont like it, but it sounds like something that is 100% false. Danganronpa: your favorite source for cat myths.
They dont have fire doors in Sonias home country of Madeupistan. OSHA would like to have a word with your entire country, Sonia.
Nekomaru apparently killed the cow here with his bare hands to get Teruteru the meat. Did he fucking punch a cow to death? That's straight up psychopath behavior. If I did free time with him, would there have been a scene of him drenched in cow blood as he talks to me about his workout regime?
Teruteru says he couldnt make stuff like this from him urban home, but also says that big ol thing of meat is from the cow. Socouldnt anyone with access to a butchers make it? Caught you in your first lie, Teruteru. YOURE TRAPPED NOW.
You know, thinking about it a bit more, shouldnt Ibuki have been able to hear something happening to Byakuya with here super ears? Like him gurgling on his blood or wet squishing stabby noises or ouch ouch Im being stabbed. Byakuya was the quietest stabbing victim ever, apparently.
Nagitos crazy starts leaking out at this point talking about how it is better to die having hope in others and how I must be the chosen one. Hajime just laugh and shrugs it off like when a crazy person on the bus talks to you, which is probably for the best.
Gundham has now recruited poor Chiaki to help him find his earring. He might die because hes unprepared for the trial, but hes going to look good doing so.
Byakuya got a letter saying someone was going to kill someoneand didnt share that info with us? Hey, ham hands, maybe let us be prepared too. It would be like if the iceberg wrote the Titanic a letter that said I will definitely sink you tonight and the captain didnt tell anyone so they wouldnt get scared. KINDA NEEDED TO KNOW THIS INFO BYAKUYA.
Nagitos logic is that Byakuya couldnt tell anyone because that would spread doubt and doubt leads to fear and fear leads to hate and hate leads to the dark side of the force. I dont buy it. Tell us next time someone threatens to murder someone else, ham hands.
Uh oh. We got ding donged bing bonged. Time for investigations is over please put down your pencil.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
2016 Suprak Power Rankings Post Chapter 1 Deadly Life 16. Byakuya 15. Nagito He had access to the entire crime scene and the ability to set things up beforehand. Plus hes being way too NO WAY IS ANYONE HERE THE KILLER GUYZ. Thats just what the killer would say! I still dont quite get how he did it yet, short of somehow hiding underneath the floor boards. Although I have to admit if both him and Byakuya die then who will help out Hajime? Are they taking out both competent characters immediately? HMMM maybe Im wrong. 14. Teruteru The only other guy who couldve had access to a bunch of the equipment. He couldve taken the murder weapon before we arrived since he was already aware it was missing. Also its looking like Peko and Nekomaru were poisoned somehow? And this dude totally couldve messed with the food. 13. Peko Less likely murderer, but one of the secondary suspects. She wouldnt have the same access to the building as everyone else, but was unaccounted for during the murder. Couldve been the poops. Or it couldve been more nefarious! 12. Fuyuhiko Other secondary suspect. He couldve snuck underneath the floorboards, but there isnt any good way for him to have planted the knife. Also the game was very insistent on it being impossible to get underneath the house from the outside. 11. Gundham Final (and least likely suspect). He was able to get his earing back, meaning he was able to get under the floorboards. He will most likely reveal this to give us a hint towards the real murderer, because he seems extremely unlikely to have done this one. He is pretty weird though and is likely to be a victim himself before too long. 10. Nekomaru Dude has a giant bullseye painted right in the center of him. Big strong obviously tough people dont make it through death games. Sorry dude I dont make the rules. He also is kind of useless during investigations. Yelling I MUST POOP for 45 minutes isnt helping anyone, pal. 9. Sonia The thing about Sonia is she could be good victim or killer fodder. High and powerful princess brought low is something I could totally see this game doing, and either role would fit that theme well. So twice as likely to not make the end as some others. She did a good job pointing out the fire door whatever the hell that is supposed to do. I cant even guess how thats going to come up in trail unless someone is like everyone knows what a fire door is and I can go OBJECTION Sonia is a moron while she sobs uncontrollably in shame. 8. Kazuichi He really reminds me of this games Leon. Like hes just there, taking up space and not really saying much. Even the annoying characters have had their personalities well established by now, but I know nothing about this dude other than hes a mechanic and has the hots for Sonia. Oh and his shark teeth arent helping his odds. I feel like by the third chapter the game will just sort of forget about him and we wont see him again. Like he wont die, hell just stop appearing and no one will mention him anymore. 7. Akane Lets see so far she ate all the food at the buffet and decided to go swimming to help her try and figure out the case without any of the clues. Fake Hina, you are useless and you arent endearing yourself any more with any of your creepy step dad stories. 6. Chiaki Mildly useful during investigations and almost acts like a real person at times. The first game loved these sort of characters. The kind that would kind of find stuff and help a bit without just telling you things. Long after the tutorial characters are dead, Chiaki will be around vaguely pointing me in the right direction in between games of Tetris. 5. Ibuki I think I found this games Hiro. Hiro was the guy I kept thinking would die because he was the dopey comic relief character, and I feel like this time around it will be Ibuki. Shes mildly funny, goofy, and really dumb and any smart killer will try and frame her instead of kill her. 4. Hiyoko I thoroughly enjoyed her calling Byakuya ham hands even after his death. Shes actually one of my favorite characters so far. Kind of Celeste-esque. She even has that OH ARE YOU SERIOUS spooky leaning forward face. Actually, I should probably bump her down a few places as Im becoming more convinced shes a murderer, but I kind of hopes she sticks around for a while to mock Teruteru now that Byakuya is dead. 3. Hajime Probably still the SUPER TWIST bad guy what with his ultimate ability being a secret so far. Still makes it to the very end, at least, though. Seems more competent than Makoto so far, which is nice! When Nagito was being overly chummy he was like wow this dude is weird and when he said he didnt want to go to Byakuyas alone because the murderer could be out there he said wait how do you know Im not the murderer, bro? Neither of these are things Makoto would have asked, unless Kyoko had come up to him first and told him to. 2. Mikan So there was like three seconds where I thought she could actually be the murderer when I got the compromising pose clue, but Im back to the Mikan is totally going to survive to the end camp. If she was the murderer she probably wouldnt have been nice enough to give us that detailed autopsy that basically told us the knife we found wasnt what killed him. Plus, now they cant kill her as she will give these autopsies every case I bet. Also, while Im doing all these comparisons she reminds me of Chihiro with her whole sorry Im sorry Im so sorry that Im sorry routine. Maybe since the game tricked us last time with Chihiros gender this time around they wanted to prove they werent doing the same thing by showing us her genitals at regular intervals. Like see, just doing our twenty minute check in to prove this character is a girl! 1. Mahiru So, Mahiru is the normal, semi-competent character in a sea of weirdos. She is useful in putting things together in a sort of support role and has a good skill that will undoubtedly show up in future cases as evidence as well. Basically everything youd want in a late game character. She also seemed to be developing some sort of relationship with Hajime in something that might be a reoccurring plot point.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
General Thoughts About The Split Suprak Timeline A couple of interesting 2016/2020 Suprak mind melds. First off, we both agree Byakuya is an idiot for trying to hide the fact someone wanted to murder. I think 2016 Suprak puts it best where "things will get bad if we don't trust each other" might be true but "someone here wants to murder so we have a reason to not trust at least one person" takes precedent over that. Tell us if someone wants to kill, jerk. That's information we all need.
In 2016 I mock Hajime and Nagito for knowing so much about fire doors. In 2020 I mock Sonia for knowing too little about fire doors. No one is safe from my wrath, apparently.
The other interesting shared though is that Byakuya died the quietest stabbing death ever. It really is weird that we have Ibuki super ears over hear and yet no one count here Byakuya struggling or gurgling or crying out for help or anything. Probably thought things would get bad and we wouldn't trust each other if we knew one of us was getting actively stabbed. STOP KEEPING SECRETS BYAKUYA
Weird clues that I can't remember how they factor into the case: Mikan's vagina, Nekomaru's IBS, Sonia discovering that fire doors are not doors that are on fire. No clue how these things are supposed to help us.
I do like how Nagito's weirdness is foreshadowed here. You can see it start leaking out as he keeps talking to you so when he goes full Joker in the trial it doesn't feel completely out of left field.
The game did apparently trick 2016 Suprak though, since he thought Nagito was the most likely murderer. I at least got Teruteru right as the second most likely murderer though, so it wasn't like I was completely off.
It could be that I haven't played the first game for a longer time now, but I don't really see all the connections 2016 Suprak was building between the characters. Like, I never would've connected Ibuki and Hiro or Mikan and Chihiro at all this time around. Maybe the comparisons are still valid, but I got completely different vibes this time around.
I AM EXCITED FOR THE CLASS TRIAL
Less excited for all the terrible mini-games I remember being part of the class trial though.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Ahh, nonstop debates how Ive missed you! FEELS SO GOOD TO BE BACK BABY
Kazuichi throws out his weak argument about the body having been dragged over to the table, and I block it back into his face Hakeem Oulajowan style. NOT IN MY HOUSE NOT IN MY HOUSE
Hajime: Byakuya was probably killedunder the table. Nekomaru: WHAT? YOU THINK HE WAS KILLED UNDER THE TABLE?! Nekomaru, master of the obvious, ladies and gentlemen
Oooh new mechanic. I pointed out Byakuya could see in the dark and Mahiru was like nah it was the killer and came at me like a chump. REBUTTAL SHOWDOWN. It is an interesting idea, but Im not sure I like it that much >_> I like taking time to read through the arguments just to go through the text. Here though I feel like I need to swipe through stuff quickly, and Im not really paying attention until I see something I can counter pop up
Hiyoko calling out Teruteru for being a pervert. Roll with me my partner in Teruteru hatred.
How did Byakuya know there was going to be a murder Oh why hello there evidence literally called murder threat. This is case 1 though so Ill forgive the obviousness of some of these answers.
Tch! He shouldve told us he received a threatening letter! Oof Nekomaru making smarter points than Byakuya. This is how you wind up dead case one, Danganronpa 1 palsie. Danganronpa 1 Byakuya woldnt have pulled this garbage. Then again, he also wouldnt have consumed an entire buffet immediately before the game either.
OH SNAP FIRST ACCUSATION. Poor Peko. Luckily for her the first person accused is never the killer, naturally. Kazuichi thinks it is because she has to be the one that set up the blackout. Ibuki thinks its because they were both glasses wearers. Sadly, each will be equally correct (at 0%).
I like how everyone is like no she isnt tall enough to reach the circuit breaker when she had a big box with her she could have climbed on. Or she couldve moved the shelves. I mean, how tall are the walls in that room that she couldnt reach the top if she had the assistance of a decent sized box? Are they in a giants home?
Ooh new feature to the non-stop debates. Now I can use evidence to strengthen certain arguments. Not a bad idea! Haha and the first use of this ability is to prove she had diarrhea! Truly, this is a Danganronpa title through and through.
If she locked herself in the bathroom for that long, theres no doubtIts shit. COMING SUMMER 2017 NEKOMARU SHIT DETECTIVE. *flashes to a screen of Nekomaru looking very intently at something. He slowly shakes his head and stands up. Its shit. Fade to black*
Im kind of wishing now there is some point in every case where Nekomaru is called in to give his expertise on poop so he feels useful again.
We now need to investigate the cause of Pekos poop problems. This is the most Danganronpa-iest way the game could have started!
I actually like the bathroom aside though. It shows some cleverness in implementing weird red herrings that the first game needed more of. Like I was suspecting Teruteru and thought maybe the bathroom had something to do with it, both of which are cleared up in early stages of the trial. Multiple false suspects are a good thing, imo.
Three irons plus the AC is enough to cause a power surge and black-outok I guess! I was wondering what the hell the irons were used for.
The agree mechanic is really, really good. Now instead of having characters just tell me certain things ala the first game I actually have to find which ones are true on my own. Very nice addition so far.
UhNagitoare you doing a heel turn? Youre doing it like three testimonies too quick though man we havent even started looking at you yet! He gets really weird really fast like oh jeez hope will always win, right? *wink wink* Well neeeeeever find the killer oh did I say killer I meant driller theres no killer here guys nope. Keep it together man!
Hahaha hes literally like hey lets just quit and let the killer win thatd be cool right? I have no idea what caused this breakdown but its like hes just quitting midway through case 1.
Nagito: There are no clues that lead to the killer anywayNot a single one Uh other than the fact youve been jumping up and down saying youre the killer for the past three paragraphs now, you mean?
Oh hey, picture analysis. This is also a nice addition! Pointing out something suspicious about the picture could be used in interesting ways in future cases, I think.
Hmmsomething is weird here. Why is Nagito basically giving himself up? And we have like ten unused clues left still. Hm hm hm. I mean, the knife being hidden there is basically why I suspected Nagito in the first place, but I feel like the game kind of threw this in my lap and Im suspicious, dang it. Maybe hes covering up for someone else? BUT WHY?
Woops never mind he just went full on crazy complete with psycho swirling eyes. Guess he did do it after all >_>
Ibuki: Holy crap! Hes *totally* the type of guy who spent his childhood killing neighborhood pets! Ibuki knows whats up everyone back away from the table before he starts stabbing again.
If Nagito did do this, then why the hell did he spend 50 minutes leading me around to show me all the clues? He mustve known it was the first case and with Byakuya dead I needed some sort of tutorial type character.
Aw yeah Mikan with the rescue. I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WEIRD. My four top secondary suspects are all the ones that want to put the kabash on Nagito, too, which is a nice touch. If it winds up being one of the three of them, the way the game set up this section allows any of them to see like they could be the real killer here.
Akane continues to be beyond useless and doesnt even understand the rules of the trial. Fake Hina, you hurt me most of all.
And now Nagito admits he didnt kill Byakuya. Weve gone through all my suspects, dang it! I think I need Gundham to tell me how he got his earring back. Current money is on Teruteru though since the missing weapon was taken from the kitchen.
I feel like Chiaki and Mikan are basically saving everyone here. Theyre the surprise Kyokos! The whole stabbed under the floorboards things (wouldnt his stab wounds be like super linear right down a straight line then?) is something I figured out immediately but lame Hajime wouldnt say it for some reason.
Improved Hangmans Gambit more like Improved Hangmans Gambit what is this
Oh no now we have to listen to Gundham monologue about his stupid earring for five minutes. I choose death. How do I vote?
Shut up shut up shut up shut up just tell me how you did it you ponce. Its like when Gundham starts talking my brain sort of sputters to a stop and I dont really listen. You ever get stuck in a room with a four year old pretending to be Batman or something and you dont know the kid but he keeps on coughing without covering his mouth and pretending to punch you and refusing to tell you how he found his damn earring? Thats what Gundham is like in this game.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Hiyoko: What should I do? Im embarrassed just listening to him! Bro-fist, Hiyoko. Bro-fist.
Alright, hidden passage in the storage room. That took five minutes when it should have taken ten seconds I hate you so much Gundham.
Im not the killer! Dont mess with me! Ill fucking kill you! A+ defense there Fuyuhiko would rub my eyes and shake my head at again.
So now they think the killer used a portable stove to light up the hallway to get to the storage room. Butuhit was like ten feet away. It shouldnt have been that hard to find? And I also think in the time it would take the killer to think to grab the stove, run to the storage room, move the boxes, sneak under the boards, shimmy to where Byakuya happened to belikeno. This would take way to long and why would they even assume that Byakuya would be under the table for them to stab in the first place?
TERUTERU I KNEW IT. Worst character killing one of the best. Not cool man.
Hmm Nagito seems to be running interference for Teruteru. Interesting. Maybe theyre working together, and Nagito just wants all the ultimates to die! Tsk tsk mean ol Nagito.
Whoa when Teruteru loses his mind he suddenly turns into a cajun. Weird way for a character to melt down, but eh, Ill take it!
It all comes together! Poop saves one character and gratuitous nudity condemns a second! Even Teruterus pervyness plays a role! Cookies for everyone!
Monomi is now translating for Teruteru >_> Reminds me of that scene from airplane.
Man, did I not miss those panic talk actions and closing arguments.
Teruteru claims he murdered Byakuya when he was accidentally trying to kill Nagito. Yeah, you realize that wed all get killed anyway, right?
Nagito is determined to sacrifice himself so we can all become even more HOPEY and POWERFUL than before. And Teruteru knew this. And instead of telling anyone, his brilliant plan was to secretly murder Nagito and then ????
Chiaki also thinks Byakuya probably saw Teruteru under the floorboards and was protecting Nagito. GREAT PLAN BYAKUYA. This crazy dude is just going to try and kill again and you threw yourself onto a meat skewer for him. Also, you probably couldve yelled or flipped the table over or something instead of getting yourself killed. Total Leon move there, pal.
Would have been better if Nagito was just an agent of chaos and was helping Teruteru from the beginning instead of this overly convoluted crazy plan, too.
Yeah Monokumas explanation makes the most sense that Teruteru just saw an opportunity to kill Nagito and took it to get off the island. Interesting bit of back story with Teruteru and his mom. ALMOST makes me feel bad for him. Yknow. If he hadnt just tried to kill me. Him begging to find out what happened to his mother as he is dragged away for his deathpoor guy. Execution pretty solid, too.
Moms are tough says Teruterus mom. Somewhere that lame mom from Final Fantasy XIII is slowly nodding her head in approval.
Also Ibuki why the hell couldnt your super hearing tell us the fat kids voice was coming from beneath the floor. Im no hearing expert and even I can tell when someone is speaking from like five feet beneath my feet.
Also also are they really not going to explain Byakuyas absurd weight gain? Like, what the hell game? I thought this would be a plot point of some sort. Like he couldnt deal with the stress of what happened in the first game. Or he got stung by all the bees at once. Or something. Why is he fat? Is this a weird sexual thing, Japan? Is this some fetish I dont know about? An engorgement fetish? WHY IS THIS A THING. Truly the great unsolved mystery of this game.
Murder Plan Grade: D. Teruteru gets points for not noticing his name was written out in blood at the crime scene, but everything else about this was a terrible idea. Teruterus major plan seemed to be relying on Nagito to help him, and as a rule of thumb you probably shouldnt entrust your survival to a complete raving lunatic. Sure, crazy person who I just tried to murder and saw wandering around pantsless and trying to paint all the cats, you seem like a super cool person to team up with. Even if it had worked, he didnt really do much of the work in his defense. Once Nagito gave up he started blabbering in a terrible fake Cajun accent and couldnt even think of one thing in his defense. ALSO, even if Mikan hadnt fallen down and accidentally had sex with everyone in the room on her way down, maybe it isnt a good idea to pretend youre in a location when you have no possible way of being there. I mean, why even fake establish yourself there in the first place. For all they knew, the murder occurred in the dining room. Placing yourself there is the dumbest possible thing he couldnt done. Thats the opposite of what murderers are supposed to do. He created an anti-alibi for himself. Also, the logistics of it still bother me. In the dining room, the lights go out, there are roughly five lines of dialogue, and Byakuya gets stabbed. In the kitchen, Teruteru grabs the portable stove, removes the meat skewer, goes out to the hallway, closes the door so his light cant get through, runs to the storage room, moves around the various junk in his way, climbs down into the secret basement, shimmies over to where the glowing paint is, and then stabs Byakuya. Im more worried about Teruterus obvious time manipulation skills at this point than the fact he just tried to kill us all.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Akane wants to start the judicial process here by PUNCHING. That is the LAPD method and it is not approved anywhere else, Akane.
They ease me back into the nonstop debates with only one statement I can object to and only three truth bullets to pick from. As Kazuichi is the dumbest of the group, it falls to him to say the dumb thing I must refute.
Hiyoko: Too bad youre sooooooo stupid and boring and unpopular! Your life is meaningless! Hiyoko also got into the school as the Ultimate Roastmaster, I think.
I forgot how much Nagito lead the trial here the first time. I wonder if past Suprak was legitimately tricked by him or if I knew something was up. (UPDATE: He was not tricked that Nagito was bad, but did fall for his initial trick of trying to prove he was the murderer)
They now all take turns wondering why Byakuya was under the table. No one guesses he was chasing after a loose dinner roll, so they are nice people than I am.
Peko tries to say Byakuya couldnt see in the dark, and I have to present my night vision goggles to her to get her to admit defeat. See, this is why you shouldnt be pooping for 45 minutes during a murder investigation. Get some Imodium from the supermarket next time.
Ok like three separate times ALREADY I have gotten a version of this dialogue. Hajime: Thing X is what happened. Other person: So youre saying thing X is the thing that happened? Writers for Danganronpa, you can do better than this!
Oh a mini-game. Rebuttal showdown. Fun. I dont quite get the point of this one. It is sort of like a nonstop debate except I need to do this lame cutting minigame first. I never understood why Danganronpa diluted the gameplay with these. I have yet to meet a single person that liked them in the first game, and I doubt they get any better here.
Some of these are a bit too easy. How did Byakuya know a murder might occur. *checks evidence* Hmmwell I have something here calledmurder threat. Could be that. Could be Mikans vagina. Really tough choice here guys. When theyre this easy, you can probably just skip the gameplay part of it and let the script do the work, guys.
I seeHis strong sense of responsibility as our leader was his undoing No the moron decision he made to gather everyone in a room and not search the guy cleaning it or the guy preparing the food who he let in early, which was a second moron decision, was his undoing.
Like I dont understand what Byakuya's plot was for after. Say the night was a success. Does he think the murderer was going to kill on that night and that night only? Was he a werewolf? The killer could just try to kill again at a different night, dumb dumb. Snacks doesnt fix that. You need to warn us something is up.
Hajime: Among us, whos the onewho killed Byakuya. Well red is pretty sus I can say that for sure.
Ibuki: Eek! Peko killed poor Byakuya!? Was this island not big enough for two glasses-wearers!? Glasses envy: the number one cause of death amongst the nearsided.
Nekomaru: If she locked herself in the bathroom for that long, theres no doubtits shit. Were lucky to have Nekomaru, worlds foremost shit detective, on the case of how long is too long for it to just be pee?
Im confused what Teruterus sexuality is supposed to be. He seems to get turned on by everything, including pooping under poor lighting conditions.
Nagito gets to the next level crazy and Hajime asks the very important question of what the hell is wrong with you? The answer, Hajime, is everything.
Sonia is shocked at Nagito implying they havent made any progress yet. Huh? Even though we have been arguing for so love? Sonia chill its been like ten minutes. You guys are fine.
Nagito: Instead of surviving by doubting others, isnt it better to get killed for believing in others? Yeah, thats gonna be a no from me, dog. (I do like Nagitos commitment to lunacy though!)
This whole the killer used the lamp cord to guide them to the table seems needlessly convoluted. Couldnt they just, I dunno, stand next to the table at 11:30 since they knew the time the lights would go out?
Or hey, look where the table is before the lights go out. Stand anywhere you can walk to it in a straight line. BOOM youve found the table with no need for your crazy power cord plan.
Everyone is getting ready to lynch Nagito. HOLD ON GUYS I HAVE A HUNCH HES JUST A LUNATIC NOT A MURDERER.
Oh his eyes are weird blue swirls. Hey guys how did we not notice that right away? That shouldve been a dead giveaway this dude was nuts. Sane people dont have spirals for eyes. You never see a guy with eye spirals and hes just an accountant.
Ibuki: Holy crap! Hes *totally* the type of guy who spent his childhood killing neighborhood pets! That is a very accurate assessment Ibuki and I wish I had thought of it.
Sonia: He seems like the sort of person whose eyes light up while watching Friday the 13thJust like me. Sonia just realy likes hockey masks guys though, not brutal murders. Seriously. No need to be concerned. Ha. (Hey guys write this down for a later case to use as evidence.)
The more I think about this the dumber Byakuya is. He gets an anonymous letter from someone saying a murder will occur, then takes Nagitos advice to have everyone gather at the musty old building and then lets him, the person who suggested the place, go into the place by himself with no supervision. Byakuya you were like ten times smarter than this last game. Thats like eight errors of judgment all combined into one.
I always pick the wrong answers in those pick four choices things just to see if someone says something funny ala Phoenix Wright, but not so much so far. However, when I accuse Nagito of being the Ultimate transporter, Teruteru says Of course! Then you obviously wear a red fundoshi! Is this a reference anyone understands? I feel like this is a Japan based reference and Im too ignorant to get it.
Ok accusing Nagito of being the Ultimate Babyface just to have everyone give Fuyuhiko a side eye look and him get mad was worth it. That was pretty good at least.
Mikan jumps in to stop everyone from committing mass accidental suicide via the Nagito deception. Truly she must be the ultimate nurse.
Nagito finally admits he is a FAILURE and cant even kill anyone right. Jeez. Even Leon figured out how to kill in the last game, and he was so incompetent he left his name written at the crime scene.
Mikan is absolutely killing it at this class trial. She brings up another point I didnt even think of: Nagito is clean. Byakuya exploded blood so really it is bizarre for there to be no blood on any one else in the dining hall. That should clearliterally all of them, all at once. Man, it wouldve been nice if they couldve worked this into a nonstop debate somehow instead of quizzing me on Byakuya being worried about the worrisome note.
I feel like a lot of the times the killers go through such insane lengths to set up a murder, like Teruteru did here, but the end result is literally only they couldve been the murderer because of three or four details the overlook. Next game someone should just straight up stab someone while walking somewhere and run away. I feel like that is much more difficult to solve than all these Rube Goldberg plots that end up failing miserably.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Improved Hangmans Gambit you motherfuckers better be using that word IRONICALLY because I hate this. You know what isnt fun? Waiting thirty seconds for the letter you need to actually appear. Also, either you know the word and youre just slowly waiting for the game to finish or you dont and you have to kind of guess from the letters youre getting. Either way isnt fun.
I have to select Gundham as the person who knows how to get under the floorboards, and when you scroll past Teruteru the expression on his face can only be described as pants shitting terror. Its a nice touch. Thats what you get for killing a vastly superior character, you scum.
Hiyoko: There he goes blabbing about power and crapYoure ridiculous! Youre just a breeder, yknow! That sounds like something youd find on the r/childless subreddit, but Ill let that go for now.
All attention now turns to Fuyuhiko as the only guy who wasnt at the party and Mahiru does a killer Fuyuhiko impression where she makes him sound like a total IDIOT. Thats why you get when you act like a child, baby Mafioso.
Fuyuhiko: Im not the killer. Mahiru: You said you could kill earlier. Fuyuhiko: BITCH ILL KILL YOU FROM UNDER THE FLOORBOARDS. Paraphrased, but pretty close to the actual conversation here. Fuyuhiko you dummy that might not be the best retort at the moment.
I do really like how consent was added this time so youre not just trying to disprove things. I remember this working well during my initial partial playthrough, and it definitely stands out as a major improvement this time as well.
I dont quite know why this portable stove was needed. There is a single hallway connecting the kitchen to the storage room. Just follow the hallway all the way to the door and theres no need for any portable stove shenanagins.
I dont think this portable stove theory is as airtight as Hajime seems to think it is. He says it has to be the source of lightbut couldnt someone have hidden a flashlight somewhere? Or followed the wall like I said before? There was no conclusive proof that the portable stove had to be a light source. Just that it could, theoretically have been a light source.
Well Teruteru went full Cajun. Clearly this means he is the person who murdered that crawdad er I mean human.
Teruteru: Oooh I was born n West Azabu and raised n South Aoyama! I dont know enough about Japanese geography to know if this is supposed to be a hilarious joke like if you hear someone with a southern accent say well boy howdy I am from the south side of Chicago I tell ya what. But Im guessing it is supposed to be something like that.
Oh hahahaha this is why Mikans vagina is a clue. How surprisingly clever. Ok, I will take back what I said and declare that scene only 99% fanservice then.
Undone by his own perviness! Which, as it so turns out, is the way most prevents tend to be undone, honestly.
OH NO NOT MORE SPELLING! MONOKUMA I CHOOSE DEATH JUST END THIS
Teruterus curse he yells out as hes defeated is Avrillavigne!!! which is something Im going to start yelling too
Fuyuhiko: Hes just saying random shit to fuck with us! OHHHH whyd he have to go and make things so complicated?
Oh. That silly mini-rhythm game returns too. Is there any weird genre the game wont try to cram in here to get in the way of the fun?
Akane is going to eat the entire thing to see if there is an iron skewer hidden inside. Seems like a bad idea considering the iron skewer is coated in blood and the meat on the bone has been sitting there for like four hours now and is probably cold and hard and gross. But I guess Akane needs to find some way to be useful, too.
Chiaki: Hey NagitoIm sorry but can you just be quiet. Ooh sassy Chiaki best Chiaki.
And the comic book mini-game makes an appearance. I dont hate this one, but it is just kinda boring. Again, anything that takes me further away from the nonstop debates is going to be something I probably dont like as much.
Of course this comic has a Peko on the toilet picture. LET THE POOR WOMAN HAVE SOME DIGNITY, GAME!
OH. Thats what a portable stove is. I call those things hot plates. I was imagining like this actual stove you could carry around. Like an easy bake oven but a little bigger. This makes way more sense.
Wow I do not remember Teruteru straight up bawling like this. Makes me feel a little bad for him. Did any of the killers in the last game sob when they got caught? Definitely not Sakura. Definitely not Celeste. I dont remember Leon or Mondo crying either. Interesting touch here.
Teruteru saying he was only trying to save us by stopping Nagito rings hollow. Because if you killed him instead we all still die if you get away with it. You know what couldve helped instead? You going hey guys Nagito hid a knife someone should probably grab it.
Nagito: See, isnt it typical that if you face a strong enemy, you will become even stronger yourself? Which meansthe stronger the despair you face, the stronger everyones hope will become, right? Iwant to see that brightness. And in order to see it, Im going to become everybodys stepping stone. I think Nagito is going to be a really fun antagonist this game. And it is interesting to have him out in the open like this.
Monokuma says it doesnt matter if it was accidental or in self defense, a murder is a murder. I wanna talk to your supervisor because theres such a thing as justifying homicide, bucko. Oh wait this isnt a real court? Excuse me Ill see myself out.
Teruteru finally admits he is a no good scoundrel and wasnt trying to just protect us. Monokuma managed to point out the inconsistency in his logic and he breaks down immediately. You cant fool Monokuma. Hes done this before!
Teruterus mom brushing aside her major health scare: Ill be fine. Moms are strong. Teruterus mom and the moms are tough mom from the beginning of FFXIII would be best friends in a video game mashup.
I gotta say this ending really does help my overall opinion of Teruteru. Him sobbing for his mother and begging Monokuma to just tell him if shes ok is a rough way to go and humanizes him a lot more than handsy pervert that wont shut up about his tiny penis.
DEEP FRIED TERUTERU. Great first execution, imo.
Sonia saves the group from imploding by giving a heartfelt speech about everyone doing their best and working to ensure no one else dies while theyre here. Sonias stock shoots up in the Suprak favorite character power rankings, but goes way down in the who is going to live power rankings since the last guy who tried to rally us wound up stabbed underneath a table.
Hajime stares up into the night sky and gets a feeling someone is watching him. Yeah. Monokuma. Havent you noticed the cameras everywhere?
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
General Thoughts: I don't know if I like this case better or case one of the first game better. I loved the twist in the first game where Sayaka was actually trying to frame you, but this one was probably more interesting overall. And it was one I clearly didn't have figured out instantly from the name being written on the scene
2016 Suprak raises a great point about the timeline not making sense. There were roughly eight lines of dialogue Ibuki heard. Teruteru cannot do all the things he needed to do in that time frame. The lights would've come back on and he would still be trying to drape the sheet around him.
There are like ten different things I commented almost the same thing on in 2016 as I did this time around. I'm basically stealing my own jokes without knowing it.
I forgot how much the mini-games really get in the way here. I'm still having fun, but for some of these (especially Hangman's Gambit) I'm just clenching my teeth and hoping to get through them as quickly as possible.
This is a fun cast so far! I feel like no matter who dies coming up, I'm going to be disappointed. If I were to tier how much I liked all the characters, I think it'd go: Characters I like and would be sad to see die: Hiyoko, Gundham, Sonia, Mahiru, Nekomaru, Nagito Characters I like and would be mildly bummed about dying: Hajime, Chiaki, Ibuki Characters I am indifferent about and hope they get kicked out before the others: Peko, Kazuichi, Akane Fuyuhiko: Fuyuhiko
More daily life is nice and at least I can get used to being around these characters a bit more before someone dies.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
15. Teruteru He gets points for making me feel bad for him right before he died. He loses points for killing one of my favorite characters through an idiotic mistake. The game finally figured out to kill of the fat annoying pervert right away, which is a step up from last game where Hifumi waddled around for half the game sucking all the fun out.
14. Gundham This dude has basically no chance. I almost strangled him myself when he was babbling for like half the trial. Being the weird loner that makes hamsters have sex with each other isnt the recipe for longevity in a murder competition.
13. Kazuichi Crazy shark toothed mechanic. If the artist drew him without the explicit instructions to make it obvious he was a murderer, he messed up, badly. I dont know why Jared Leto as the Joker took a part time gig in a video game, but here is the end result of it.
12. Peko Again, being an ultimate swordsman is a bit of a hindrance here. The game doesnt want to keep her around, shes too strong and competent. Shell get killed, possibly by some sort of sword to confuse everyone as to how it could happen.
11. Nekomaru ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF YEP, ITS SHIT NEKOMARU TRIES TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT IS TRUE THAT HE WHO SMELT IT, DEALT IT. Decent comic relief character that is too big and strong to make it to the end.
10. Sonia The game is basically setting her up for failure here. They killed off Byakuya because he was the leader, now we just need a physical force and moral force to get stabbed in the face and we have the perfect despair trifecta. There is no one more moral here than the literal princess begging everyone to get along and be friends, meaning she has no chance of making it to the end.
9. Hiyoko Its getting sort of tough here, because I can see a lot of these characters living from here on out when clearly they cant. The first game had no shortage of characters you knew were going to get thrown into the woodchipper eventually, but here there are actually a pretty decent amount of well rounded, potentially interesting characters so its hard. I like Hiyoko and she is my Gundham hating partner in crime, but she might also be a lunatic. There are flashes where it hints she is just sort of a normal girl, but there is something cruel to her as well were I could see her getting caught when we catch her playing in a puddle of blood.
8. Akane So far we know she likes to eat and is really dumb and also doesnt remember anyones name. I doubt shes smart enough to pull off a murder plot and also so dumb the people arent likely to kill her. She might make it to the end, but she really needs to get some sort of personality put together by then she has to do something other than ME HUNGRY ME WANT EAT eventuallyright? I guess the game might be getting ready to kill her off soon and figures she doesnt need any characterization but its hard to say for sure either way.
7. Fuyuhiko Im going through this list and Im realizing this game is pretty terrible with male characters. All the female characters are strong or interesting and all the guys kind of suck. Fuyuhiko actually has a decent shot of making it as he is really the only one I can see being put through a somewhat okay character arc. Like, hes crazy annoying now, but they kept hinting that he wanted to go to the party and have friends but couldnt bring himself to do it. Sort of like this games Byakuya. *sniff sniff* Miss you Byakuya
6. Nagito I know the game is basically jumping up and down right now to tell me how this guy is going to be a murderer or get murdered or help people do the murdering or something, but theres no way theyre killing him off yet. Hell be around to the very end. The game isnt going to kill off the main antagonist/trouble maker right away.
5. Ibuki Shes right in that niche of weird enough to be memorable, but not so weird that she comes off as psychotic. Shes also competent enough athletically without being so big and strong that the game is just waiting to take her down a peg. Pretty decent shot at survival.
4. Hajime There is some weird sort of thing going on with him and Nagito. Nagito keeps looking at me all weird like WERE THE SAME LETS MAKE FRIENDSHIP BRACELETS. We might be the Despair 1-2 combo like the first game had. I still thinks he makes it to the end, but there is a slight chance he dies off at the ending.
3. Mahiru These top three are really the only ones that were any damn use to me in the trial. Everyone else was standing around making armpit farts and hooting like monkeys. I feel pretty good about all of them surviving, but Mahiru was just a smidge less memorable than the other two. She probably makes it to the end, though.
2. Chiaki She really stepped up during the whole trial thing. With Byakuya dead and Nagito and raving lunatic, I was trying to figure out who the game would use in the whole psst why dont you try doing this role when the trial needs to get push forward in a way they cant think of working into the gameplay. Chiaki probably winds up sharing that role with Mahiru, which should bode well for both of them.
1. Mikan Im honestly surprise her top didnt pop open during the trial at any point, but the game seems intent on pushing the whole clumsy nurse that falls into compromising positions angle. You know, the oldest trope in the book. Between her relative competence in the trial, her role in evidence examination, and the fact she cant go more than two minutes without getting naked, shes basically guaranteed to make the end.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Danganronpa 1 Byakuya woldnt have pulled this garbage.
no he'd set up his own murder plot on top of nagito's to test everyone else despite risking the fact that it could get them all killed if they vote for him
Also, I warred with myself on whether I should have mentioned this earlier given you cleared us for the first trial but going forward, don't spend your free time periods with Nagito. His is unique in that his first event must be seen in Chapter 1 before he outs himself as well... Nagito. Since you missed that event you can't see his others now, you'll just waste the free time period. So save his events for the postgame social mode since that ignores all that.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Oh jeez who let Nagito go into a crazy monologue? Also, you defined the word admiration with admiration, so I dont think that counts.
He really, really wants someone to kill him. Hes like real Junko levels of comic book supervillain, I love it.
Hiyoko: Still I understand about Mr. Ham Hands, but is there even a reason for us to be sad about Teruterus death. I mean the girl raises a good point maybe we should let her speak.
This debate about whether or not we should feel sad about Teruterus death interrupted by Hiyokos putrid body odor. She isnt taking showers apparently. How has no one noticed this before right now?
Whoa were like where is Nagito and Nekomaru is like I DONT KNOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN I DIDNT KISS HIM IM NOT WEIRD NO YOURE WEIRD MAN. Whats with the random outburst, crazy person?
Monomi apparently defeated one of those weird mechanical monsters for us. Aw yeah more island to explore.
Mahiru wants to go explore the new island, but Hiyoko insists they go wash each other. Phew, almost went a full five minutes without fanservice I thought my eyes were going to fall out due to boredom.
Hajime has a weird break down where he blurts out about man nuts and his urges and he goes to watch Mahiru and Hiyoko shower. Ive seen porn where the sex scenes are better integrated into the plot than this. Here it is just like murder talk murder talk murder talk VAGINA murder talk murder talk. Give me some heads up, I might be playing this in public, man.
Talking to Fuyuhiko is like getting shaken down by a five year old for my lunch money only Im twenty six and could shove him in a nearby trash can if I wanted to. He sort of has Byakuyas arrogance from the first game, but his design is so weird I cant take him seriously. Hes a jerk to me in the diner and I give him a noogie so hell shut up.
Nekomarua and Akane are training because first thing you do when you find a new island to explore is start fighting for fun. Nekomaru wins handily and hes like jeez you cant even beat a mere trainer. Dude youre like 200 pounds heavier and a foot taller than her give her a break.
There is this weird scene where Monomi talks about how changing in the beach house is against the rules and Monokuma shows up with a gun to shoot the rule breaker. BOLD SUPRAK PREDIX: Kazuichi will trick someone into changing in the pool house, getting them killed.
Hajime walks into an enormous library and has the thought Its probably a library jeez what gave it away?
Ugh Sonia finds a magazine talking about Genocide Jack. WHY I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH HERRRRRRRR. How rude, game.
There is then a ten minutes aside on Sparkling Justice, a serial killer who only kills criminals. If this game reuses the whole oops there is also a serial killer here too, sorry angle I will actually cry. Sonia is super into it too. Likeweirdly into it.
Oh wow Sonia has more information. Something something this island might actually be an artificial construct made to look like Jabberwock Island. Then shes like nah thats crazy but Monokuma shows up to confirm it and blame it on the evil organization and other mysterious stuff that wont be answered until chapter 6. What a jerk.
There is an ancient ruin here that Chiaki finds that looks just like Hopes Peak Academy, and Hajime convinces himself it is just a coincidence. Oh yeah sure, I know tons of ancient civilizations that built buildings to look like futuristic boarding schools.
There is some futuristic door with symbols drawn on it and both Monokuma and Monomi show up to be like uh door what door pay no attention to the door who here wants to do somersaults. Something is up with this door for sure.
Apparently even Monokuma and Monomi cant enter that door. INTERSTING. Monomi is surprised and says that Monokuma must be just like her and gets rocket punched to the moon before she can finish who that and is supposed to be. DOUBLE INTERESTING. Perhaps one person here is also some sort of weird robot? They'll rip off their mask and reveal another small bi-color creature underneath?
Monokuma then tells us about World Ender, the group of extremely uncreative terrorists that wanted to end the world and did so. We see a city that looks like Superman just fought supervillain up and down every street and Monokuma tells us the world has already ended by the time the game starts. Jeez, what a downer.
Nobody believes it (naturally it sounds crazy), but Monokuma insists they are the final boss. Im like 85% sure that the traitor that works for World Ender is actually me, mr. convenient memory loss.
We meet for breakfast and find out the reason that Kazuichi and Nekomaru have been acting weird. They tied up Nagito and hid him in the old mansion so he cant do anything crazy. Thatactually seems like a good idea. Why were you hiding this?
The beach house is 100% going to be the murder scene. Theres like twenty things to look at here.
More free time with Akane. She says she knows an awesome place to eat and drags me toAHHHH ITS THE STORAGE ROOM SHES GOING TO EAT ME
Now Monokuma calls us to the park with a BIG SURPRISE and like two thirds of the cast cant figure out what it is in spite of the enormous screen taking up half the park that wasnt there before. Mikan, Chiaki, and Mahiru really are our only hope here so hopefully they dont die anytime soon otherwise well get trapped here when no one can open their doors.
Monokuma reveals he is an indie game developer and Im starting to consider the possibility he is actually Phil Fish.
Hiyoko: I wanna play games about riddle-solving professors or collecting cute monsters. Damn, Hiyoko, high five for good gaming tastes. Also, it is pretty hilarious that both games they referenced are Nintendo titles. I mean, I know the Vita library is pretty thin but you couldnt throw it a bone here, Hiyoko?
Hiyoko: But adventure games are boring and tedious to play, right? I take it back, gimme back those cool points. This game has so much self referential humor its insane. It might be the most meta game Ive played.
Monokuma says this game is the next motive for killing people. He apparently went to the Gone Home school of game design. We all debate whether or not we should play it for a while.
Chiaki: Motive or otherwise, it doesnt matterI wont let another killing happen. Damn Chiaki just marked herself for death. I liked her, too.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Chapter 2: Daily Life Thoughts: Part 1: The Part Where 2020 Suprak Catches Up to 2016 Suprak: Colon: The Coloning
Nagito: But people who cant winpeople who dont try to winpeople who try their best and still cant winthey are all worthless trash. Nagito sounds equal parts crazy and college football coach who is afraid hell get fired if he loses the next game.
Nagito: No matter how much a penguin tries, theres no way it will ever soar through the sky. Someone clearly hasnt watched Happy Feet 2.
Nagito has very strong opinions on the natures vs nurture debate and hes going to take up five minutes at the start of the chapter here to make sure you hear all about it.
Nagito: Admiration iswising you could be like the object of your admiration. Nagito I just checked and you cant define a word by using the same word again. Thats cheating. Transubstantiation iswhen something is transubstantiated.
I apparently have a lot of thoughts on this Nagito monologue. One more. He says he is fine if someone kills him because I want to see with my own two eyesthe absolute hope that lies ahead. Psst Nagito if you let someone kill you you wont be able to see anything with your own two eyes.
uh did someone kill Nagito? Someone interrupts his monologue to tell him to shut up and then some sort of attack happens and then the scene fades outs. I not complaining, but I definitely do not remember him dying so Im assuming he was just knocked out for now.
Hiyoko, on wondering why it seems like everyone is bummed out over yesterday: Still I understand about Mr. Ham Hands, but is there even a reason for us to be sad about Teruterus death? Shh guys everyone shut up. Shes making a great point.
Holy shit Akane sets up Hiyoko with the longest ya stank joke of all time. I dont think she even means to be a joke, but Hiyoko is being a jerk and then Akane stands there sniffing for a while asking if anyone smells that terrible smell. Then lets it build up for another couple of minutes, and then says the stinkiness if coming from Hiyoko and everyone yells "OOOOOOO!" really loud like when someone dissed someone else back in 7th grade science class.
Apparently she hasnt been bathing because she doesnt know how to tie her kimono sash. Everyone agrees she smells. Mahiru volutneers to help, partially because she is a nice person and partially because that stank is interfering with her camera lens.
Nekomaru and Kazuichi both immediately crack when someone brings up the fact Nagito isnt here. So we can probably cross these two off the list of potential murderers. Theyd be crying and speaking Cajun haflway through the first nonstop debate.
Monomi has opened up another island for us to explore by beating the robot guardian. Everyone is excited to find a way off the island. Hate to tell you guys. There isnt going to be one. I know there are six chapters and I doubt chapter 3-6 are you guys relaxing at home after Kazuichi McGuyvers a ship.
I have no clue what happens but Hajime somehow gets late night Cinemax access to Hiyoko and Mahiru showering together. The cops are called shortly thereafter and a tearful Hajime is lead away in handcuffs in front of his friends and family.
Ibuki screams on the beach and the music turns to oh no someone is being murdered music. Turns out Nekomaru and Akane are just fighting each other. Nekomaru kicks her ass even though hes wearing sandals. Akane will never get her black belt at this rate.
The shower in the beach house is out of order. Monokuma needs better handymen for his death games.
Kazuichi: Im never gonna give her up! Hajime: You might let her down, though.. Dang a Rick Roll burn. Truly the most devastating of all the burn subtypes.
The pamphlet to Jabberwock Island is in English, a language Hajime has somehow never seen before. Luckily Sonia knows 30 languages including the one they are both currently speaking so it isnt a problem.
Monokuma hints THE ENTIRE ISLAND is artificial and both Sonia and Hajime assume he must be lying which leads me to believe he is actually telling the truth!
We find a book that talks all about serial killers including Genocide Jack. Hopefully the summary is just she kinda sucks and was one of the worst parts of any cast she might appear in.
Haha Sonias mosttight! voice line is awesome and I hope she uses that a lot.
We learn about some Sparkling Justice serial killer and now I have to hope that of all the plot points in the first game, they dont reuse the absurdly dumb actually someone here is a serial killer! one.
The ancient ruin is clearly Hopes Peak Academy. No one else seems to think anything of this except Hajime who is like oh I guess I can see the resemblance maybe nah its probably nothing even though they show almost the exact same same school in a flashback.
In continuing with the theme of obvious things people somehow dont notice, everyone except Chiaki somehow seems to miss the massive chaingun next to the door. It is pointing like directly at the screen to enter the password and multiple people are queuing up to touch it like they have a death wish.
Monokuma shows up to let us in on the people that did this to us a shadowy organization called World Ender that ended the world. I look forward to meeting the heroic group of adversaries that are trying to stop them, called TEMPORARY AUTHOR PLACEHOLDER NAME 6.
Kazuichi and Nekomaru knocked out Nagito and are keeping him tied up in the abandoned hotel place where he can't bother anyway. They didn't tell this to anyone because it was a "shockingly good idea" and they were worried it didn't fit with their previous characterization.
FREE TIME! I spend it all with Hiyoko because I'm kind of curious if she will be nicer to me in free time than she is in regular time. She is not.
Monokuma calls us down to show us this new video game he made. It is called "Danganronpa" and we get sucked into a singularity.
It is actually called Twilight Murder Mystery Syndrome (or something close to that), a sequel to some game Chiaki knows because she has her PhD in made up video games.
Oh this is the motive for the next killing. Psst hey guys just don't play it. Problem solved!
Wow Monokuma being revealed as an indie game developer combined with that world ender twist was so mind blowing it shouldve been called game ender because that is where my notes stop. No clue why I stopped right after the next motive was introduced but, alas, this is where we must bid adieu to past Suprak. Farwell jerk! Have fun living the next four years under the Trump presidency.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I'm actually surprised both Past and Present Suprak got the item from the lottery thing that sends you to the Mahiru/Hiyoko scene there. That only happens if you have the right "gift" from the gift lottery. (I was lowkey hoping Present Suprak wouldn't and just assume Past Suprak was having a fever dream during that section of notes or something)
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
It is actually called Twilight Murder Mystery Syndrome (or something close to that), a sequel to some game Chiaki knows because she has her PhD in made up video games.
Twilight Syndrome is actually not a made-up video game! It's a real horror series that began in the 90s on the original Playstation by a company that would eventually become Grasshopper (of Suda51 fame), then got dumped onto Spike before they merged with Chunsoft, who made a few more games for Playstation and DS. They were popular enough in Japan to get a few live-action movies based off of them.
See this is why I like Gundham. He has this huge long aside about the hell hound earring he received for fighting back this bloodthirsty beast and he builds it up and up and then hes just like yeah I need it to commemorate that time I bested that Pomeranian. Thats just good writing, and it made me smile. SUCK IT 2016 SUPRAK.
a lot to catch up on but glad you can be trusted here now ---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
I'm actually surprised both Past and Present Suprak got the item from the lottery thing that sends you to the Mahiru/Hiyoko scene there. That only happens if you have the right "gift" from the gift lottery. (I was lowkey hoping Present Suprak wouldn't and just assume Past Suprak was having a fever dream during that section of notes or something)
Oh interesting. That makes more sense I was had no clue what was happening when Hajime started screaming about his man nut urges. I think items must carry over between playthroughs. I didn't bother to check, but I did just reuse my same save file but restarting from the prologue and I still have Akane's friendship fragments, at the very least.
MrSmartGuy posted...
Twilight Syndrome is actually not a made-up video game! It's a real horror series that began in the 90s on the original Playstation by a company that would eventually become Grasshopper (of Suda51 fame), then got dumped onto Spike before they merged with Chunsoft, who made a few more games for Playstation and DS. They were popular enough in Japan to get a few live-action movies based off of them.
The More You Know
Hey, this is the kind of reason I like doing playthrough topics! I found out last game what Celeste's execution was about and I love finding out these weird little factoids I wouldn't know about otherwise. Thanks for letting me know!
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
The next day we see Fuyuhiko making his way back to his cabin. He is carrying a weird folder and when Hajime asks if he went to play the game, he soils himself and knocks over the block tower he was building. Then he threatens me again. It is like getting threatened by a particularly small kitten.
Mahiru is making breakfast for Nagito in the restaurant, and shes worried how long theyre going to keep him tied up for. This brings up a more concerning point: how does he poop? Did they give him a bucket? Is someone helping him? Is he soiling himself? HOW DOES HE POOP? #poopgate #whataretheyhiding #countthevote
Hajime, on Nagito: As if a black poison was falling from his mouth every time he spoke, filling his surroundings with darkness Yeah, that was the feeling I was getting, too, and I absolutely love this description. I feel like this whole scene is an anime version of Clarice meeting with Hannibal Lector. QUID PRO QUO, HAJIME.
Nagito also seemed to know that Mahiru was going to excuse herself to go dosomething. Welp, thats worrisome. He changes the subject and for some reason Hajime forgets to bring it up again even though something is clearly up.
After free time with Hiyoko, Hajime decides its time he plays the game. Every time he meets someone on the way he panics and offers a weird explanation to for being out of bed so late, except for Mahiru who is even more suspicious than him. Dunno what shes up to, but she is clearly either the murderer or murdered this chapter.
Hajime plays the game and gives it a very bad review. Monokuma is clearly a better torturer than a game designer. Its about some girls and one of the girls dies and then another one dies and then it says game over down five. Whatever man, I cant wait to post a review of this on GameFAQs.
The next morning Mikan says were lucky its sunny or it would be a waste, then gets super weird and was like WASTE WHO SAID WASTE I SAID SMASTE. Uh huh. Maybe Mikan is the murderer this time.
Uh oh Mahiru is missing. Shes definitely dead already lets just not look for her guys. Oh wait Akane already saw her sulking away outside the mansion. I take it back, shes the murderer!
Kazuichi wants to secretly meet me at the supermarket at 2:30. Probably needs someone to help him lug back the enormous bottles of soda.
Free time is interesting this time. I can only hang out with five possible characters. I feel like maybe this is a clue. It was Nekomaru (who was my choice) and four others (who I forgot to write down). Dunno why everyone else was unavailable. Ill just assume theyve all been murdered for now.
Actually the girls are all going for a secret swim and Kazuichi needs my help crashing it. That sounds less perverted than I thought, actually! I thought he was going to ask for my help burying him in the sand so he could spy on them, but this is fairly normal. Aw yeah killing the pervert character first.
Hajime finally agrees because after that man nut scene, it is pretty clear he is down with lady oogling. Kazuichi is excited. Yaaahooooo! Thats my Hajime! Thats how a soul brother should act! Hajime and Kazuichi are now bonded for life by their shared interest in women in bikinis.
Gundham is waiting for us at the bridge and it is clear he wants to hang out with us but is too awkward and Gunham-y to say so. I talk to him like eight times hoping video game Hajime gets the hint to invite him, but he is a jerk and leaves him behind with his hamsters.
Oh wait theres going to be a murder. Were staking out a spot in front of the beach to wait for them, but in reality we are making a locked door sort of scenario. NOOOOO BUT MAH SUNBATHING LADIES. Kazuichi is going to be crushed. My money is on Mahiru shes been acting all mopey.
Haha as soon as the girls show up Kazuichi basically blurts out his plan. Hes like oh weird you guys are bikinis I MEAN HERE lets go to the beach I MEAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING. Hajime says hes bad at this, and I solemnly shake my head in agreement.
Also Fuyuhiko was there but then he wasnt. Disappeared. Or maybe hes standing behind a shrub hes a very tiny man.
Kazuichi brings me a matching speedo. I DIDNT AGREE TO THIS I DIDNT AGREE TO ANY OF THIS
Hiyoko is sprinting away in tears from the beach house. Uh oh. UH OH.
Chiaki shows up in her swimsuit and everyone forgets about the girl sobbing that just ran past them because there are boobs now. COME ON GUYS FORGET THE BOOBS THERE HAS BEEN A MURDER
Kazuichi starts loudly shouting about Chiakis jugs, then blame it on me. Some wingman, bro.
UmAkane shows up covered in blood. Jeez, easiest mystery weve ever solved. Can we skip to the punishment yet? She claims Nekomaru did it to her during a sparring match. SUUUUUURE, LIAR.
Peko shows up covered in water and claims she was trying to swim to a different island for three hours but couldnt find them. What about the other three islands like a couple hundred feet away LIAR. Maybe Peko is the murderer.
Sonia shows up latein a wetsuit. MORE LIKE MURDER SUIT WHY WERE YOU LATE MURDERER?!?!
Hajime is surrounded by girls in swimsuits and thinks it would be better to go help Kazuichi set up towels and umbrellas. Bro. BRO.
Hajime hears a body discovering announcement. UH OH. Then he refuses to believe it and decides its no big deal to check the beach house where he just heard screaming coming from. Yeah, because the first one you already heard was just a hilarious prank.
MAHIRU NOOOOO. I kinda saw this coming halfway through the chapter but I'm still bummed because she was pretty cool.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Post Chapter 2: Daily Life Power Rankings 16. Byakuya
15. Teruteru
14. Mahiru She was probably the most normal character out of the entire pack, so of course she gets her head exploded in chapter two. THIS IS DANGANRONPA DAMMIT NOT C-SPAN GET A QUIRK OR GET OUT. I really thought that whole photographer thing was going to be used in like every case, but nah one case was all we got. Halfway through this daily life I had a feeling it might be her getting it, since she got all weird and despondent for no reason. R.I.P. photographer lady. You will be sort of kind of missed. Not as bad as Byakuya though.
13. Peko I feel like the fact she was swimming is going to come back. No alibi, plus if she did get blood on her she could have gotten it off while swimming, PLUS she couldve murdered Mahiru then swam to another beach due to her athleticism to make it look like she wasnt leaving the scene of the crime.
12. Sonia That whole wetsuit thing could be important too. Like maybe she is bloody underneath it or something and is covering it up with the body suit. She was also the one to suggest everyone getting together, so it could have been a plan to kill someone all along. Although Mahiru wasnt supposed to come according to Mikan. What were you even doing there weird photographer lady?
11. Chiaki The other big suspect, although I think shes probably fine and probably shouldnt have her up this high. She did have that one part in the chapter where she was like I WONT LET ANYONE DIE which was a weird outburst. Methinks the lady doth protest too much HMMMM? I feel like she is the most likely to make it all the way to the end out of everyone though, which probably means she dies this chapter based on my predictions so far.
10. Fuyuhiko The final maybe a suspect guy but probably isnt really a suspect at all. He did have that weird envelope at the beginning which could besomething? I dont know what that was, but the game is clearly pointing at him every chapter to be like WATCH THIS GUY HES A MURDERER which means he clearly wont be. They did this with Byakuya last game, so clearly some time around chapter four he is going to discover the power of friendship and skip with us to the finale. Unless he killed Mahiru here he was at the beach for seemingly no reason.
9. Nekomaru He probably isnt the killer this chapter since he was sparring with Akane, but I dont think hell be around much longer after it. Part of it is the fact hes the size of a house and like Sayaka last game huge hulking brutes arent making it to the end. Part of it is the fact he gets less screen time than the other characters. Part of it because Im tired of turning a corner and seeing his package staring me in the face. Wear some looser jeans, dude.
8. Kazuichi He definitely didnt do it this time, but I dont know how much longer a guy with teeth and a tongue like that is going to get through this game. Especially if Sonia was the killer, I could totally see this dude snapping and murdering someone before the trial is even over. Also youre a terrible wingman I never said anything about Chiakis jugs you monster.
7. Gundham Poor hamster man just wanted to come with, and both Hajime and Kazuichi just left him behind. The other victim this chapter? Gundhams heart.
6. Nagito Hes too good of a villain to go before the very end. Hes the devil on everyones shoulder, whispering sweet nothings of how he will help in their ear while sliding a knife in their hand and telling them to just do it already. He didnt kill Mahiru for sure, but maybe he helped talk someone into it. It wouldnt surprise me if he isnt the very final character to bite it.
5. Akane I overreacted a bit when I thought she was the killer. No way does the game have the killer saunter in covered in blood. How terrible would this case be if the killer showed up covered in blood before the investigation started? The trial would be a single non stop debate and then it would just end. Plus Nekomaru could just be like uh no, I wasnt sparring with her if he wasnt. So she didnt do this one. She also seems too dumb to do any of the murders, and the game likes cleavage too much to just get rid of her. She might make it.
4. Hiyoko She clearly wasnt the killer, because again the game wouldnt show the killer fleeing the crime scene. And if it is the same as last game where three people need to see a body for the alarm to go off, she was two and Kazuichi was three. So clearly someone else saw the body too (MURDERER). I think shell probably get some sort of redemption arc now that her bestie Mahiru bit it, and shes got this mean sort of sassiness that makes her one of the funnier characters. But who knows, maybe now shell go full psycho now that her one friend has been taken.
3. Ibuki The fun weirdo character? This series loves fun weirdo characters! Shes got a bit of fake Junko in her face and the way she talks, and I sort of dig her design so far. Id be surprised if she winds up dead.
2. Hajime He could still be the other half of Nagitos weirdo partnership, but I bet he gets some sort of redemption thing through FRIENDSHIP or something and makes it to the end anyway. Plus hes the protagonist so I should probably stop ranking him below people Im not 100% sure on.
1. Mikan Which obviously doesnt include the important forensic analysis character that likes getting naked. Thats basically more important than a protagonist to this series.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Suprak's Current Thoughts and Musings I feel like the killer is one of the ladies who showed up at the diner with the special animation. Peko is wet, Akane is covered in blood, and Sonia has a wetsuit on. One of those three things is important. I could see reasons for all of them. Peko swimming to wash away the blood, Sonia wearing a wet suit to hide blood underneath, and Akane covered in blood because she is Akane and forget that blood is a clue. It would actually be kind of clever for the game to make the killer the "obvious" suspect once, because we've been trained to not suspect the obvious suspect in these games. I don't think it is Akane though as she has Nekomaru as an alibi. The other two are kinda a coin flip for me though.
I was a little wrong on the "locked room" prediction. There is an element to that, but after Mikan and Ibuki show up the boys got distracted and didn't really pay any attention to comings and goings until people walked in the diner. Killer could technically be someone that walked by when we weren't looking, but that isn't as much fun.
I have to say, I really like this cast of characters so far. My list of people I dislike or don't care about is rapidly shrinking. I'd probably rearrange things in my tiers slightly now as a couple more have grown on me more so: People I'd be really sad to see die: Sonia, Chiaki, Mikan, Gundham, Hiyoko, Nagito People I'd be kinda sad to see die: Hajime, Nekomaru, Ibuki, Kazuichi People I hope die before the good characters: Peko, Akane Fuyuhiko: Fuyuhiko
This overall was a fun chapter. It still has that big early game energy I like and the characters all interact well together. I liked them trying to have some fun still even with how messed up things are and they actually did a pretty good job fleshing out all of the characters a little more.
The only thing that feels like a little bit of a waste was Nagito. I loved his scene with Hajime this chapter, and Kazuichi and Nekomaur absolutely did the smart thing. But I feel like him being around and stirring up shit is a really fun dynamic that they didn't use as much here. Maybe they're just saving that for later chapters though!
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Chapter 2: Deadly Life Reactions And HOT TAKES And Oh I think I Know Who Did It
Why Mahiruwhy? me too Hajime, me too
There is a weird smiley face mask on the floor next to Mahiru. Currently going with the theory that she was killed by wayward trick or treaters.
Hey Hajime? Before thiswe were having a great time right? Good input, Kazuichi. Hey Hajime remember boobs those were great right?
Chiaki stops all the other dorks from trampling all over the very important footprints in the sand evidence. Good job, master detective Chiaki. Please dont die or I dont know who is going to stop Akane from eating all the evidence.
Monokuma has a surprisingly hard time convincing the dumber ones here that Mahiru was murdered. I-its notlike, an a-accident or something? Kazuichi sputters. In his defense though accidentally bludgeoning yourself with a baseball bat and leaving a suspicious mask nearby is the third leading cause of death in the anime world, behind sexy pratfalls and robot attacks.
Monokuma is also very clear that an accident is still a murder. Im going to take this to the Danganronpa appellate court because that is some bullshit, man. Fingers crossed this murder wasnt some sort of super convoluted accident that gets a cool character punished because that would be the lamest outcome possible.
When Kazuihi cries his eyes look a little like fried eggs and its creeping me out.
Cause of death is a single blow to the head with a blunt object. A single blow? No, no way. I need a second forensic analyst in here because that is just not right. It looks like shes covered in an entire paint can of pink paint. You dont get that much blood from one blow! Hell, I dont think theres that much blood in her head in total. My new current theory is she was run over by an EMT carrying blood bags. Its the only way this much blood makes sense.
Hajime points out that him and Kazuichi were arriving at the beach house when the murder occurred and mopes about the fact that if they had just went to the beach house they couldve saved her. I TRIED BUT KAZUICHI STOPPED ME. On the plus side I guess this clears Kazuichi completely.
Kazuichi spends the investigation complaining about the lack of variety of beverages in the fridge. Man, I totally understand. Dont you hate it when one of your friends get murdered and theres no Juicy Juice in the fridge? What am I supposed to do drink water like some sort of poor person? Now I wish I was the dead one.
Peko: Chiaki seems peeved about this whole killing thing. Hajime: Yeah well most people would be killing is unforgiveable. Peko: Oh uh yeah I sure hate killing too, yep, no one hates killing more than me *cough cough* Hey guys what if the killer was like really cute though then would we lover her OR HIM again? Ok so Peko is the murderer, got it.
We find the murder weapon which was conveniently left on the scene and covered in blood, and Chiaki points out how it is the same as the one in Twilight Murder Side Story Whatever Its Called. Apparently she got the good ending somehow. She truly is the Ultimate Gamer guys.
Im confused why Girl E keeps flashing back as a stock photo of a girl slumped over against the wall. Like, why is this the one instance in the game where they needed to use a real body. I know the game is animated but I want to include in the budget a young female actress that can dress up in a school girls uniform and pretend to be dead. Uhjust because it is hard to draw, not because its my secret fetish.
Apparently the only drinks left are either sweetened or colored. Well, we solved the case of childhood obesity.
There are a bunch of empty water bottles in the trash. Either the killer is suffering from rabies and has an unquenchable thirst or they washed themselves off in here for some reason. Whichoh wait, Peko was wet when we saw her. She really is the killer, huh?
Sonia sees the mask and points out its something something dont care stopped listening from an anime. Apparently 90% of people in her country watch that anime. Didnt know her country was located in a suburban teenagers bedroom.
Sonia rushes out of the beach house to do some research, where Im assuming that research here is a euphemism for making my totally sweet cosplay why didnt I think of this before. With Sonia gone and Mikan gone, that just leaves Chiaki as the sole person I trust to do anything not dumb. THANKS SONIA YOU JERK.
I slapped both my hands onto my cheeks, and faced Mahirus body one more time. Those better damn well be your face cheeks, Hajime.
We find an enormous gummy candy in the closet. The kind that Hiyoko likes to eat, which clearly exonerates her entirely. There is a 0% chance the game makes the killer the person who leaves obvious evidence at the scene and is the only one seen running away from the murder location just after the murder happens. The trial would be like two minutes. Uh we saw you leave and you dropped this. Damn, nice job guys I didnt think this through
The shower room is out of order, which probably explains why the killer had to use all the water bottles to clean off. Sorry, killer, youre going to be caught because Monokuma forgot to pay his utilities bill.
I find Akane alone in the bathroom. DEAR PENTHOUSE.
She helps me investigate the little window by climbing on my shoulders and telling me her stepmoms lovers like to get drunk and give her massages. DEAR PENTHOUSE, IGNORE MY EARLIER LETTER IM AFRAID IT MIGHT BE EVIDENCE IN AN UPCOMING COURT CASE.
Akane proves you can open the window easily, so the killer couldve (and absolutely did considering there is a five minute scene dedicated to it) made their escape through here. The point is made that it is really, really high up so obvious that means the killer had to be.NBA LEGEND DETLEF SCHREMP. Curse you, NBA legend Detlef Schremp. I shouldve known our paths would cross again.
Akane posits two people couldve worked together to get one out of the window. Or maybe one really talented person that is like a ninja. Hmmmwho in the group is sort of like a ninja (PEKO PEKO THE MURDERER IS PEKO).
Hajime forces Chiaki to come with him to go play the game again so he can get the good ending. Shes like a real life embodiment of GameFAQs.
I never expected that person to be waiting there. Mahiru? Byakuya? NBA legend Detlef Schremp? Oh, no its just Nagito. Thats not the most unexpected thing that couldve been there tbqh.
Apparently Monomi untied Nagito because she wanted everyone to get along and be friends. Monomi, you giant, multicolored moron. If she had a cage of mice and a cage of cats, shed open them both hoping theyd start a friendship parade and be surprised when she can back and all the mice were mysteriously missing.
Nagito does weird things for a while and we shoo him away with a broom so we can play some vidya games.
Apparently the secret ending is unlocked by pressing down five times on the title screen, a clue Chiaki deciphered from the fact the game says down five after you beat it the first time. You know, perhaps I was the real idiot all along.
Now we get to the REAL TRUTH edition of the game that opens up with a long scrolling summary telling me we can now solve the real mystery. Oh boy, I cant wait.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Oh, these girls are all girls that are here, arent they? My clue was that Girl B calls Girl A a farty poopy ugly trashy slop monster, which is either Hiyoko or someone so good at impersonations that they could put on a kimono and no one would know it wasnt Hiyoko.
Dont you know? A pervert has been spotted in the area recently. Yeah, his name is Teruteru and he somehow is allowed to attend the school in spite of the numerous sexual harassment complaints that follow him around. Hes clearly the one who is behind the mysterious swimsuit disappearances, duh.
The totally not the girls from this game crew hear a noise, and go upstairs and find a dead body. Their high school experience had waaaaaaaay more corpses than mine.
Not-Hiyoko thinks the broken window is evidence the killer jumped out of it. But why wouldnt they just open the window someone smarter asks. Because they were in a hurry someone dumber responds. I know when Im in a hurry, I dont take the two seconds it takes to open a door when I can just lumber through it instead. This is how people get banned from Pizza Hut, not-Hiyoko.
Pretty sure Girl E did this, whoever that is. She was right outside the room and likely just ran the key to the teachers lounge before everyone else got here. Either that or, sure, the magical flying pervert did it.
Not-Mikan wants to report it to the police, but Girl E say that nah, thats a bad idea, because then the police will want to arrest them. Yeah, Girl E is the murderer. No we cant call the cops, thats just what the killer wants us to do. What we should do instead is destroy all the evidence and never speak of this again, right guys?
Okay, so Girl D took a picture that incriminates Girl E, shows it to Girl E, and then tells Girl E not to worry because she wouldnt tell anyone else. Apparently Girl Dead was tormenting Girl D, and Girl E choked her out to stop it. Oh, and Girl D is Mahiru because Girl Dead was in the same photography club as her. Jeez game, way to just go ahead and spoil everything for me.
Guy F shows up and is all like THAT BITCH I WILL KILL THAT BITCH a.k.a. Fuyuhiko. You could tell the character model was secretly a short dude with an anger problem. Alright, so his sister gets killed, Mahiru helps cover it up, and when Fuyuhiko figures this all out her murders her with a baseball bat? Is that too obvious?
The ending credits show all the names of the characters involved. I recognize Hiyoko and the Kuzuwhatcha clan that Fuyuhiko is a part of, but the others are probably last names that I havent bothered memorizing. Im going to assume Im right and the girls are Mikan, Hiyoko, Mahiru, and ??? maybe Ibuki but Im not 100% on the last one.
Also, when Girl E was trying to dispose of the photo that incriminated her, she didnt destroy it or eat it or launch it into the sun. She put it down on the ground and ran away. Great job, moron. This is why Fuyuhiko ganked you.
Nagito got all the girls from the case here so I can talk to them. I DONT TRUST YOU NAGITO. Why would he help me? Also I cant imagine this will be helpful. Remember how you dont remember anything? Umdo you remember this one specific thing from the time you dont remember? No. K. No further questions.
Ibuki invited Mahiru to come to the beach, she says, but Mahiru was busy (also she had just gotten naked like two scenes before and wasnt due again for another couple of hours). Mahiru invited Ibuki out instead, but Ibuki already had fun beach plans that didnt involve getting murdered to death by a baseball bat.
Mahiru invited Mikan out too, who also declined because she had plans. UhMahiru? Maybe just go to the beach party that literally everyone you wanted to talk to was already going to be at.
Hiyoko is like NO SHE NEVER TALKED TO ME SUSPICIOUS IM NOT SUSPICIOUS and jumps out a second story window to avoid talking to me. Nagito says something weird then leaves.
Uh oh. We find the pictures that were the prize for beating the game first in Mahirus room and it shows Ibuki, Hiyoko, and Mikan together. AHHH OUR MEMORIES REALLY WERE STOLEN WHAT A TWIST WHAT A nah this happened in the first game and Monokuma told us like twenty times already.
We also find pictures of a broken vase, dead Fuyuhikos sister, and dead girl E a.k.a. no I dont know how those photos got in that envelop officer I was given it as a prize combo pack.
Oh theres a note that implicates Fuyuhiko as the person who gave the pictures to her, promising to talk to her once she beat the game. Smooth move, Fuyuhiko. A real master of crime you are.
That probably clears Fuyuhiko though. Evidence that too strongly ties someone to a murder is always a red herring. Curses, I thought maybe wed get rid of another super annoying character two cases in a row.
Hajime is given a choice of investigating Fuyuhiko with Chiaki or looking at sand footprints with Nagito. He chooses Nagito. This is why you arent allowed to pick things, Hajime. Were going to get to the beach and Nagito is going to be eating the sand because an ultimate stepped on it.
Gundham shows up and is like well IM GLAD you didnt invite me to the beach I didnt even want to go I was busy I was at a better beach with hookers and blackjack WHY DIDNT YOU INVITE ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. Gundham, please, go look for clues. Youre going to die if we cant solve this now is not the time to sulk about missing a beach party.
Apparently while we were all investigating, Nagito stole everyones shoes so he could figure out who made the footprints in the sand and not because hes the ultimate foot fetish-ist. Suuuuuuuuure. He claims the footprints are Hiyokos and I tell him he can keep the shoes Ill just walk around barefoot from now on.
Nagito also stole gummies from Hiyokos room. Im now just waiting for him to pull out a pocketful of underwear and try to tell me how these are the key to solving the whole case.
Mikan used this time to finish the autopsy, and has determined that Mahiru died instantly. Also she found a note in her pocket that is like Hey it is me Hiyoko I am saying SUSPICIOUS THINGS to make you think Im the murderer but Im not. Not falling for it game. Theres too much evidence that its Hiyoko, which means clearly I cannot drink the wine in front of meerI mean, clearly it isnt her.
Sonia reveals her research too. Hey, good job gang not being useless. Everyone is doing something! Except for the dumb ones, but thats ok dumb people just dont mess anything up!
Sonia links the murder to Sparkling Justice, another serial killer because we havent used all the tropes from the first game just yet. Nagito laughs and says Im pretty sure Ive seen a twist like this in some video game I dont laugh because they ran out of their self-referential humor budget like a case and a half ago.
Fuyuhiko doesnt show up for the class trial right away, so the little robot bear hulks out and gets super buff. Every now and then, you are fairly certain you happen upon a sentence that has never been uttered by man before, and Im nearly certain that is one of them.
AW YEAH CLASS TRIAL TIME YOURE GOING DOWN PROBABLY PEKO
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Suprak's Post Deadly Life Chapter 2 Power Rankings 16. Byakuya
15. Teruteru
14. Mahiru
13. Peko Supraks STONE COLD LOCK to be the killer. Probably. I dunnothere is something not right about her. She was weirdly quiet during the investigation, we had her show up completely wet and claiming she was just out for an innocent swim, Akanes scene makes it clear that window is important and Peko looks the most like a secret ninja, and other stuff too but lists are always best in three so Ill stop there. She doesnt appear to be connected to the incident in any waybut likeI'm like 99% sure it's her.
12. Fuyuhiko I feel like this is who the game wants me to think it is, so clearly it cant be him, right? Hes probably guy F in the game seeking revenge for his sister by killing girl E. It would make since for it to be him then, especially since he was wandering around the beach at the time, but likeits too obvious. Is it? It is. .is it?
11. Sonia She is pushing that stupid serial killer thing way too hard. LikeOH JEEZ GUYS MAYBE IT WAS A SERIAL KILLER THAT ONLY I EVER HEARD OF RIGHT NOT SOMEONE ON THE ISLAND RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT? Nah, man. Youre trying to trick me. The game wouldnt be so dumb to rehash the whole secret serial killer thing again. If there were two damn separate serial killer enrolled in Hopes Peak, then whoever the dean is needs to be fired out of a cannon into the sun because he is trying to get kids killed. Still, shes my outside chance of a killer if the game did something clever and tricked me somehow.
10. Nekomaru Im having a hard time remembering if he was even around for the investigation portion. Usually hes all walking around shouting stuff like I HAVE TO TAKE A SHIT NGGGGGGGGH but he was surprisingly quiet this time. Mustve finally got some fiber in his diet. He clearly isnt the killer this time around because he couldnt have escaped through the window since hes the size of a small tractor. Im thinking his time is just about up though. Big strong guy is too big and strong to not be the victim at some point. Watch your back next time youre taking a dump, man.
9. Hiyoko I am officially 100% positive that Hiyoko isnt the killer. The game basically pointed an arrow directly to her face. There were gummies in the closet OOOOOOO. The footprints matched her feet OOOOOO. She wrote a secret note about meeting Mahiru OOOOOOOOO. Its too much. The game is trying to frame her and I WONT HAVE IT. In games like this, it is never the most obvious suspect. Its also never the least obvious suspect, because anyone with half a brain would suspect them first. Which is why I know the killer this time isPhyllis. With Mahiru dead now, I think Hiyoko might snap. Best friends dying usually doesnt do good things for the mental well being of people that enjoy crushing ants for fun.
8. Gundham Ugh I just felt bad for Gundham this chapter. Ill admit though I did start to smile when he spent the entire case so far following us around and moping he wasnt invited to the pool party in his weird Gundham speak. I mean, yeah, Gundham, no offense because you're cool and all but obviously we arent inviting the weirdo that carries his hamsters around everywhere to a pool party. Anyone watch Its Always Sunny? Gundham at a pool party is like the McPoyles at the bar when Dennis and Mac are trying to get girls to take their tops off.
7. Ibuki Involved in the case, but like not really. Shes just here for the party, man. I initially had Ibuki in the survivor category this time, but I realized I only had ladies besides Hajime and I cant imagine that being the case so I randomly threw here in as one of the final victims because: 1) she isnt the helpful tutorial character, 2) she isnt the fanservice/forensic character, 3) she isnt the athlete with clown breasts. Shes just a fun sort of weirdo, and fun sort of weirdos quite frequently end up with a knife in their back sometime before we get to the real meat of the story. Sorry, Ibuki. KEEP ON ROCKING OUT WHILE YOURE HERE.
6. Nagito Still a jerk. Wandering around like a loon. Hes a really fun villain, dont get me wrong. I like the chaos he adds to the game, and when Monomi untied him I was like OH SNAP NOW THINGS GOT SERIOUS. But hes obviously not making it to the end. You dont let the villain get out alive. You have him go out in a blaze of glory at the very end. Duh.
5. Kazuichi He just wanted to see some T and A. Poor guy never wanted this. HE NEVER WANTED THIS. Have you ever wanted to see a woman naked so bad someone else randomly died? This is what happens when you try and spy on girls in bikinis, folks. It drives people to murder. I feel like me and Kazuichi are bros now due to our Porkys style shenanagins, so were going to cruise to the end looking for chicks together.
4. Akane I mean she did show up to the diner covered in blood so she should probably be a suspect too, right? Like Hiyoko though, I just cant see her having done it. She wasnt tied in to the weird video game thing, shes kind of a dummy, she helped me investigate the bathroom to lead to that secret window thing. Shes probably cool. I cant imagine her being savvy enough to pull off a murder at any point, honestly. Shed start and then be like OH MAN HAMBURGERS and just snack for a while.
3. Chiaki Clearly going to be my investigative partner now this game. Youve killed Byakuya. Youve killed Mahiru. Shes literally the only smart character left. PLEASE DONT TAKE HER FROM ME. Although if the pattern keeps up shell be next and by the end of the game the only people left in the final case will be buying instant lottery tickets and watching old episodes of the Kardashians while I do all the investigating.
2. Hajime Hajime is a pretty solid lead so far. Better thanMakoto? I remember every single characters name from the first game besides the lead and Im too lazy to go look it up even though I feel like I already did like a week ago because I realized I forgot. I feel like Hajime is actually doing things and thinking and not just waiting for some purple haired detective lady to tell him what hes doing wrong along the way.
1. Mikan Mikan deserves some sort of medal because she made it through an entire case without once accidentally texting everyone a picture of her butthole. She also gave me a couple of important clues and continues to be not useless. Of course, considering how this game likes to treat not useless characters and how my Suprak power rankings have gone so far, this probably means shell be dead by the next case.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Im confused why Girl E keeps flashing back as a stock photo of a girl slumped over against the wall. Like, why is this the one instance in the game where they needed to use a real body. I know the game is animated but I want to include in the budget a young female actress that can dress up in a school girls uniform and pretend to be dead. Uhjust because it is hard to draw, not because its my secret fetish.
This goes back to Twilight Syndrome being a real game series. I didn't want to go into detail with it yet, because you hadn't tried it yet, but this was exactly how those games played out. They were 2D adventure games and whenever a body popped up, it would show a real photo of a person acting out how that body looks in the game. If nothing else, at least Monokuma knows to stay true to a game's past.
Going Into Court Soon Summary Thoughts Ok so I'm like almost positive it was Peko. Mostly because some of the evidence they chose to include. There were multiple times this case where Hajime was like "this probably isn't important, I can't see how it would tie in" and then TRUTH BULLET. Ok so we know the water bottles are important and ok so we know that little window is important. These are the kind of things they only throw in if they matter to the case in some way, and the only way I could see either of them mattering is if Peko was the one who did it. Her being wet is going to be the crucial clue, I think.
If it is Peko, I'm relieved, honestly. She's at near the bottom of my rankings, just above Fuyuhiko and that's it. She's just kinda boring and hasn't really struck me as memorable in any real way so I'd miss her presence the least.
What I don't have a firm grasp of is "why" Peko would do this. Or what Hiyoko was doing there. Or why the hell wouldn't we invite Gundham to hang out with us. HE JUST WANTED TO BE INCLUDED.
I said it before, but this whole Sparkling Justice aside was super weird. It better not be that Peko is Sparkling Justice or that will be the dumbest plot twist of the series so far. I don't even know why it was included or how it is going to factor in.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
If there were two damn separate serial killer enrolled in Hopes Peak, then whoever the dean is needs to be fired out of a cannon into the sun because he is trying to get kids killed.
DR1: I mean, Monokuma tried at the very beginning of DR1! It was the very first execution!
unless that was the joke
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Chapter 2: THE TRIAL OF THE CENTURY (or not but that's ok too) thoughts and musings
Man, Monokuma, we dont need a brief explanation of the class trial. We just did this like two days ago. Although, considering some of the people still alive in the group (*cough* Akane *cough*) maybe they already forgot so I guess good call.
Nagito jumps into explaining how the Twilight Murder Syndrome is the motive this time around, and how some of the people here are characters in the game. SOME OF US ARE CHARACTERS IN A GAME? Nekomaru blurts out. Well, technically, all of you are, but some of you are characters in a game in a game. GAME-CEPTION DUN DUN.
We then spend five minutes going through everyones role in the game. This riveting series of match the character with their obvious personality is only complicated by the fact I took a two day break since when I last played it and at first theyre just like who is girl A without any sort of reminder. JERK MOVE, GAME.
Fuyuhikos defense as to why dead girl cant be his little sister is if she was the type to die easily, Id have fuckin killed her myself a long time ago YEAH IDIOTS. If she was my little sister, why didnt I kill her already? Huh? EVER THINK OF THAT SMARTY PANTS?
Nagito covers himself in cooking grease and goes on another crazy aside about how it would be better if Fuyuhiko wasnt the killer because then the mystery would be more complex and HOPE would be more HOPEFUL. Or something. But, yeah, that is precisely why he isnt the killer, because they game couldnt make it that obvious since the motive was pointed at him.
Oooookay, youre starting to act weird again. Says Kazuichi about Nagito. Yeah, uh, he never stopped.
Also, this motive is pretty lame in comparison to the last game. Last game had a bunch of interesting could affect everyone motives. For example, Mondo was responsible for his brothers death in case two and he wanted that kept secret, but everyone was at risk of having their secrets exposed. Here it is just one guy that really has a motive. That writing isnt nearly as compelling, because now it seems like Monokuma is specifically targeting just one guy instead of letting chaos reign supreme. This is a motive that doesn't motivate at least half the cast at all for any reason.
Akane proposes that Girl E is related to Gundham because her last name is Sato and Gundhams last name is plain, too. Great, Akane doesnt even know how last names work. This is why she will never be a murderer. Too dumb to pull something like that off.
I-isthattrue? Girl E, sheshe killed the first victim Fuyuhiko, also apparently a big dumb dumb. I know he played the game since we found the note and saw him carrying the folder and in the game Girl E basically says I killed her because she was bullying you. So either Fuyuhiko is lying about not knowing or illiterate.
Chiaki justifies her map making abilities by yammering on about old school games and how you had to make your own maps. Nekomaru saves us from another eight lines of dialogue about the good ol days by telling her to shut her yap and focus on the case. More Suprak cool points for Nekomaru.
We them go about unraveling the mystery of how Fuyuhikos sister died becauseIm not sure. I get that this is the motive, but what the hell does it matter what the murder weapon was? Im not here to solve your cold cases, Monokuma.
Im not sure I fully understand the scheme here. Girl E broke the window, locked the door, returned the key, but then ran to the next room and broke the vase so the other four girls would hear it? What would she do if they were running late or werent downstairs yet? Keep breaking vases until one of them alerted someone to come running?
Also, I am trying to remember high school. I am almost 100% positive the sum total of vases in all the room I ever had a class in was zero. Because kids are idiots and would break them, regardless if it was to cover up a murder or not.
If this keeps up, Im gonna feel like I need to shit phew Nekomara made a poop reference. I was beginning to worry that something was wrong with him since he hadnt talked about pooping for roughly ten minutes.
Fuyuhikos sister was beat to death using a swimsuit full of gravel. Ah yes, the ol swimsuit full of gravel to the head murder. wait, how the hell was I supposed to know that? I had to present the swimsuit when Ibuki mentioned gravel, something I just sort of randomly guessed at because that is a pretty dumb choice for a murder weapon. Girl E was McGuyver, apparently.
Also this case sort of undermines the whole Monokuma driving people to murder thing the series has going for it. Mahiru was actually an accessory to murder before this whole thing began, so, uh, yeah. And Fuyuhiko probably killed girl E so there's that. Setting up a huge murder game seems kinda pointless when some of these characters were doing it for funsies beforehand.
She probablymade her unconscious by accidentA-and from there, she couldnt go backI-I somewhat understand that feeling. Uhreminder to myself to not get on Mikans bad side. Yeah I understand how sometimes things get a bit too far and then you just have to bludgeon someone to death with a swimsuit and then you kill a second person because they walked in on you and then you kill a third because they heard you make a noise and pretty soon youve killed an entire swim team thats happened to you guys, right?
I try to show the case was related to the game first by showing the threatening note that says play the game and then remember what you did to my sister, then by showing the picture of Fuyuhikos sister next to a bloodied bat. Neither works. Apparently what I was supposed to show was the metal bat itself. Ah, yes, the old Phoenix Wright problem where multiple clues should work but only one does.
Umwhy is Peko trying to dissuade us from believing Fuyuhiko is the murderer? Unlessmaybe she isnt the murderer? Doesnt make sense for the murderer to go hey guys cool down not him, maybe we should be looking in different directionLIKE ME.
OH SNAP. Peko says it was Hiyoko instead, something we have a lot of evidence for. TOO MUCH EVIDENCE. Thus, it cant be Hiyoko. Silly Peko!
Hiyoko scolds Nagito for collecting her footprint by calling him a pedo. Waitarent you guys the same age? I dont think it counts as pedophilia when you guys are in the same class in school I heard you started dating Amy. THATS DISGUSTING. Isnt she born in like May? What the hell is wrong with you, you pedophile!
Hiyoko quickly changes her mind and says she did go to the beach house, but it was part of her innocent daily walk and nothing else. If you went there durin your mornin walk, that doesnt have anything to do with the case at all Akane. Someone take away her ability to vote on these cases please she doesnt deserve it.
We disprove Hiyoko only went to the beach house during a morning walk with a letter than literally says Hey Mahiru this is Hiyoko lets meet up at the beach house at 2:30. Gotcha, jerk. Why the hell did she even write this letter in the first place? Couldnt she just have told Mahiru in person? Whats the point of this letter other than to provide evidence in this case?
Oh wait, Hiyoko doesnt remember it because it was forged. Duh, that makes way more sense.
Hiyoko cautions all of us that this has to be a trap. The real culprit? The one with the maskmaybe? OH SHIT, ZORRO? What the hell is Zorro doing here, killing people with impunity?
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Ah yes, the ol swimsuit full of gravel to the head murder. wait, how the hell was I supposed to know that? I had to present the swimsuit when Ibuki mentioned gravel, something I just sort of randomly guessed at because that is a pretty dumb choice for a murder weapon.
literally the worst evidence presentation thing in all of danganronpa wtf
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Oh great, now Hiyoko set off Sonia on a Sparkling Justice tangent. I have no idea why Sonia always looks all hot and bothered when she talks about Sparkling Justice, but serial killers get this chick going.
Hiyoko is saved by the fact that the idiot killer brought some generic gummy to the crime scene while Hiyoko only eats a specific brand. I know that feeling, Hiyoko. Haribo or die.
Peko makes an oops face when Hiyoko says she doesnt eat yellow gummies. Thats a weirdly obvious slip for the killer this early into the case which meansobviously she cant be the killer! So, again, I cannot drink the wine in front of you.
Hiyoko proclaims she will get her revenge on the person framing her by bopping them on the head with all her might. Easy there, tiger. You might bruise your fist.
Fuyuhiko goes crazy that Hiyoko has to be the killer because Mahiru blocked the door and that forced her to go through the front door, which is disproved immediately by Mikans autopsy report. This is why you need to show up to the briefings we have, champ.
Also if Mahiru was killed by a single swing of the bat, that is an absurd amount of blood on the door. Its like they exploded her head with one swing. Now it cant be Fuyuhiko, as evidence by the fact he has the body type of a ten year old girl.
Hey Fuyuhiko, why do you keep insisting that Hiyoko is the killer? Good question, Hajime. This is why you are a superior protagonist to whoever Kyoko dragged along the entire time last game. I forget his name. Gary? Fucking Gary, man.
Rebuttal showdown sucks so hard. What a terrible mechanic. First, its like a normal nonstop debate but you cant enjoy the arguments because you need to swipe through them before they disappear. On top of that, I cant determine why the hell some swipes do more damage than others. I ran out of swipes like eight consecutive times against Fuyuhiko and it turned out I needed to do a diagonal swipe on a couple because that made it take two instead of three. Oh, and I didnt even know I could run out of swipes. Oh, and the whole thing is not fun. I have no idea why Danganronpa insists on forcing these awful minigames in here in the first place.
Fuyuhiko sure does seem like he wants to pin this on Hiyoko. Why, if hes not the murderer? But why would he be so obvious throughout the entire case, and why would the game point directly at him and say hes the most likely to be the murderer through the motive since the beginning? So clearly, I cannot drink the wine in front of you.
Awww poor Hiyoko has a scene where she says she couldnt have killed Mahiru because Mahiru was nice and they were friends. The little psychopath does have a heart after all!
Hmmsomeone wrote a similar letter to Hiyoko asking to meet her at 2:00 at the beach house (the same time they originally planned) while Mahiru got a letter changing the time to 2:30. Hey, uh, Hiyoko, who overheard you saying you were going to meet with Mahiru at 2:00? Because theyre probably the killer.
Nekomaru confirms the handwriting of the two letter matches up, proving the killer manipulated the two of them to frame Hiyoko and kill Mahiru. Way to go, Ultimate Handwriting Analyzer.
Sloppy killer mightve wanted the swipe Hiyokos letter back after they knocked her unconscious or whatever they did. Good job leaving a massive clue on her person because you were too lazy to check her pockets. Either that or maybe Hiyokos otherworldly b.o. kept them away.
Nagito now complains that the killer didnt let him help on their plan. Akane responds by suggesting we can just lightly punch him to death later. Mm, good call fake Hina. First thing youve said all game Ive been on board for.
New mini-game! Its called Logic Drive and you ride around kinda like SSX Tricky and answer questions about what probably happened about some specific event. It is a little boring, which makes it 1000x better than the other minigames Ive played so far.
Using Logic Drive, we deduce the killer was hiding in the Beach House! wait, isnt that what we literally said seconds before I started the Logic Drive? Eh, fine, this was just the tutorial Logic Drive anyway I guess.
You spent all that time thinking just to say something so pointlesshow disappointing Agreed, Hiyoko. Im now imagining the room is dead quiet as everyone stares at Hajime, who has his eye closed and occasionally makes a little jumping motion. Logic Drive just got even better.
We now have to pick out where in the closet the killer was hiding. Hajime insists it was in the surfboard case, but I know it was along the back in the wetsuits, hung up with their arms, legs, and head peaking out.
Ibuki justifies the killer hiding in the surfboard case with the logic Its kinda like in for a penny, in for a pound, so to speak. To which Nekomaru responds, Dont you meanits always darkest under the lighthouse? What the hell are you two idiots arguing about? Focus on the case for like three seconds, please.
Ill listen to your story about men from the future some other time me, trying to ignore my five year old nephews over the holidays. (Also Nagito trying to get Monokuma to shut up about some fake anime)
Hm. Nagito points out three people other than the killer found the body before the announcement went off. Kazuichi, Hiyoko andum? Someone who isnt saying. Is it possible Peko/Fuyuhiko saw the body too which is why theyre both being weird? But why cover for the other? Good sportsmanship?
Oh cool you can use testimony in a nonstop debate as a truth bullet in addition to the normal truth bullets. Nice addition. It makes the non-stop debates more complex. I like all the improvements to the non-stop debates this time around! If only the game wasnt so insistent on throwing in pointless mini-games that get in the way of all the fun.
Peko now goes fully defense mode and I have to minigame slash her to prove someone couldve washed the blood off using the dozens of empty bottles of water in the trash can. TAKE THAT. Umnot to criticize your whole well thought out murder thing Peko, but couldnt you have, I dunno, just jumped into the ocean which was ten seconds away to wash off instead of leaving this very obvious clue? I guess that wouldve left footprints, but there has to be some way around that.
This also proves soaking wet Peko had to be the killer. Nice job not bringing a towel to your murder, dummy. Also unless you rolled around in the blood to make blood angels, you couldve done without soaking your entire body head to toe with water and not been so obvious when you showed up to the diner. Youre losing points the more I think about this, Peko.
Huh. Fuyuhiko is now jumping to her defense to say he totally saw her on the way home from the diner and she definitely was swimming. Why? WHY FUYUHIKO? Did she threaten you? Did you two work out some sort of package deal where you both held the bat and swung it at the same time? Did you fall in love with her swimsuit body? WHAT IS IT MAN?
SNAP. Hajime points out he just said he never say anyone on his way back. Feels so good to not need boring ol Kyoko figure everything out for me.
Ugh. Hangmans Gambit time. Hajime uses magic flying letters to prove that Peko used her bamboo sword to escape. Im not sure thatll hold up in actual court, Hajime.
Akane tells me ninjas know this trick where they use the handguard on their sword as a stepstool. Yeah, of course, howd I possibly not figure that out on my own? Also, Akane, you suck for not telling us all that like twenty minutes ago.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
On top of that, I cant determine why the hell some swipes do more damage than others. I ran out of swipes like eight consecutive times against Fuyuhiko
I don't even think the game tells you this, but people found it out later. If you do two swipes in the same direction and then a third in the opposite direction, that third swipe will do double damage. So if you go Left->Left->Right, the right swipe will be SUPER EFFECTIVE.
Peko doesnt object, but Fuyuhiko pulls out his binky and starts screaming, so I have to defeat him in another panic time action mini-game. I have no idea if Im suddenly bad at rhythm games, but it keeps telling me I miss, even when I appear to be hitting. I dont know whats going on. Maybe Im wrong, the screen is so freaking busy during this segments it is hard to see what is going on for sure.
Ok, I went back and redid this because I had a save state right before it started. It took some experimenting, but what I was supposed to do was HOLD down the button, keep it held down, and then release it at any point on a subsequent beat. I don't know if I wasn't reading closely, but I don't think the game was clear about this. It has been a while since the first case so maybe I just forgot.
Peko admits it and encourages us to hurry up and vote. Uhseems very un-killer like to me there. Thus, I cannot drink the wine in front of me.
Chiaki insists we cant vote until we figure out the motive. BORING. Once you and the killer get done hugging and talking about what a hard childhood they had, can we get back to throwing her into a live volcano?
Peko goes on a five minutes tangent about justice being a smiling father and dancing mother. Or something. The weirdness went over my allowed limit and I kinda tuned it out.
Oh cool now Peko is claiming to be Sprakling Time Pretty Pretty Justice. Hopefully this turns out to be a weird ruse otherwise this is officially the dumbest case in the series.
Alright who gave Peko the stupid princess mask? Did she carry this in? How did we not notice?
W-w-w-what? WHAT THE F*******************************!? Same, Kazuichi. Same.
Everyone takes turns commenting how crazy and weird this is. Cool, Im not the only one.
Wait, were really going to closing arguments? It feels like either were missing something or this case was haphazardly thrown together by the developers.
I think Peko is contractually obligated to say the word justice at least once a sentence in this persona because she wont shut up about it.
Also she wants us to throw the case by voting for someone else, so she can live and CARRY OUT JUSTICE. Yeah, thats gonna be a no from me, dog.
Wait, it was Peko? The trial is over? This is weird.
WHAT. Sonia shows up on the literal class trial end screen to ask for some more time. Can you not read, Sonia? Class trial end. Also it confirmed we got it right, so what is the point of keeping this going?
Apparently Sonia Sparkling Justice Stalker Nevermind knows that her hero is a different nationality, thus eliminating Peko from being Sparkling Justice. Way to go, imposter. Next time try pretending to be someone that Sonia doesnt have a fanclub for.
Now that weve already named her guilty though, Peko comes clean and says she was just the tool Fuyuhiko used to kill Mahiru. So Fuyuhiko was the real blackened even though he didnt kill her and should go free. I dont think thats how it works. Right?
Well that at least explains all the confusion behind why the two were protecting each other. I couldnt drink the wine in front of me or you! Some jerk had poisoned them both.
I just realized one of the photos Fuyuhiko got as an ending prize was a picture of the murdered corpse of his sister. Damn, no wonder he went crazy. Again though, this is a super bogus motive that basically was only directed at one person.
I also dont get Pekos defense here. He told me to do it so Im not the real murderer he is But did you kill her Yeah but it didnt count Im just a tool Nah youre a person There. Resolved. Everyone happy?
How would Peko be a tool in the first place? Peko is a legitimate human being!!! Nekomaru. See, even Nekomaru gets its.
Oh, so Peko is a hitman of the Kuzuryu clan assigned to follow Fuyuhikos orders. Shes still the murderer though. I mean I guess Id convict them both, but we didnt have the option of voting for two. You cant just go I was told to kill that person and expect the judge to go phew for a second I thought you were a murderer you can leave.
Aw baby Peko and Fuyuhiko are adorable in the flashback pictures. whyd they give her a little baby sword though? That seems dangerous. Bad parenting, Kuzuryu clan.
Apparently Fuyuhiko actually just wanted to talk to Mahiru at first, but then Mahiru told him he shouldnt have killed Girl E and that revenge wasnt the best idea. He responded by grabbing a metal bat and trying to kill her. Hey you shouldnt murder people. THAT MAKES ME SO MAD I COULD MURDER
Pekos brilliant plan was to frame Hiyoko for the murder, and then to make it look like Sprakling Justice was the killer if things went wrong. Hey, genius, why bother going through eight layers of complexity like that? If you wanted to be found guiltywhy not put in evidence to implicate yourself? Oh right, because then the trial wouldnt be long enough. Still, though
They start asking Fuyuhiko if Peko was really ordered by him to do all this, and both Fuyuhiko and Peko looked panicked. Uh, wouldnt Monokuma already know this ruse was a lie if you didnt? Seems like a pretty weak lie, then.
There is a semi-sweet flashback scene where Fuyuhiko and Peko both argue with each other about letting one take the fall for the other so the other can get away. It is made somewhat less sweet by the baseball bat dripping with blood that Peko is holding, granted.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I don't even think the game tells you this, but people found it out later. If you do two swipes in the same direction and then a third in the opposite direction, that third swipe will do double damage. So if you go Left->Left->Right, the right swipe will be SUPER EFFECTIVE.
i learned something today
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
Ya know, Im actually doubting Fuyuhikos whole no I was looking for reasons not to kill her and Im actually good at heart I just wanted to talk to Mahiru schtick considering the fact he hid the murder weapon under a bench and drugged Hiyoko before Mahiru got there. Wow good talk Im glad we did this. Also, no big deal, but there is a girl that is unconscious in the closet. I may or may not have drugged her to frame her from your murder. Also I am pulling out this giant metal bat from under the bench, which I may or may not have planning to use to club you to death. Well all laugh at this later, I swear!
Peko apparently snatched the bat from Fuyuhiko to murder Mahiru before he could to protect him from punishment for the murder. Just how slow is Mahiru, anyway? She wasnt ambushed, watched Fuyuhiko grab the bat, watched Peko run over, watched her snatch the bat from Fuyuhiko, and stood there and let herself get bludgeoned to death? She has the worst survival instincts ever. This all looks dangerous but I would be lying if I wasnt interested in where it was going.
Peko has a tearful goodbye to Fuyuhiko after Fuyuhiko admits that he didnt want Peko to do this, and Peko makes us promise not to resort to killing again. Yeah, easy for you to say, murderer.
Whoa, pretty excellent execution though. Peko goes through an entire army of Monokuma-bots before accidentally slashing Fuyuhiko who is desperately trying to get to her. While cradling him, she gets stabbed through the back and hacked to pieces by the rest of them. FATALITY.
Oh snap is Fuyuhiko dead too? WHAT? WHAT IS GOING ON.
Oh wait, hes alive and Monomi will save him! so hell probably die. Does the stuffed rabbit know basic surgery?
Monomi points out it is spelled out in the school rules that only the blackened receive punishment at the trial, so if Monokuma lets Fuyuhiko die, he would be breaking his own rules. Aw yeah, nice save stuffed rabbit. Tricks are for rabbits, too.
Hiyoko is not taking this everyone hoping Fuyuhiko gets better thing well. I cant blame her. Remember guys? He brought the metal bat? He was planning to frame Hiyoko before Peko even stepped in? He most likely killed Girl E (or had Peko do it)? He isnt a good guy in all of this. I know theyre going to give him a redemption arc, but Hiyoko is 100% right and yall are being dumb.
There is a little bonus scene where Monomi is talking to.someone.and reveals that shes not sure its best if they let us leave the island anymore. What the hell does that mean? And also that if the time reaches zero, it will revive the ultimate despair. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN? Surprise Junko resurrection? But how? Things getting interesting, though.
Murder Plan Grade: F. F minus. Q. I dont even know how to grade this. Pekos whole plan here was to take the fall so Fuyuhiko could escape, which she does by trying her hardest to frame Hiyoko? Hey, uh, not to criticize your genius plan here, but maybe if you wanted to save Fuyuhiko by convincing Monokuma you were acting as his tool, you probably shouldnt have tried to frame a third person for it. What if it worked, you moron? We vote Hiyoko and then shes like AHA YOU FOOLS IT WAS ME WHICH MEANS IT IS ACTUALLY FUYUHIKO WHICH MEANS HE GETS TO LEAVE AND wait why are you killing him and everyone else oops I probably shouldve checked the technicalities to see if I counted as a tool or not before doing it, huh? This is the least competent frame myself plot Ive ever seen. If her goal was to allow Fuyuhiko to go free, she did literally everything wrong. Do you know how easy it is to frame yourself? Especially when you did it? Also Fuyuhikos plan seemed to be to frame Hiyoko toobut how was he planning to get out? Clearly he doesnt want Peko to die so was he planning to just sit there in Mahirus blood and take the blame. He couldnt climb out the window like Peko did so was he just going to leave Hiyoko there? It seems like this plan was planned with the intention of Peko carrying it out from the beginning, but also not with her carrying it out from the beginning.
Case Grade: D+. I loved the ending here, and that is all that saves this case from being my least favorite of the series so far. It was emotional and well written and just great all around. I just am not a fan of this case overall, though. I hate how the motive here targets only one person and that pretty much cuts out a pool of suspects from the beginning. The whole aside with figuring out the murder from two years ago or whatever was HORRENDOUS. It didn't make sense. Getting the clues was not fun. And "swimsuit full of gravel" might be the dumbest, least logical use of the nonstop debates to this point. Case 2 in game 1 was leagues better, and so far this is a game with better characters but worst cases. I dig some of the gameplay improvements, but a lot of these minigames are just straight up bad and getting in the way of the fun. This case in particular had like half of the questions be multiple choice, and that just isnt fun.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I don't even think the game tells you this, but people found it out later. If you do two swipes in the same direction and then a third in the opposite direction, that third swipe will do double damage. So if you go Left->Left->Right, the right swipe will be SUPER EFFECTIVE.
Wow, thanks so much for that. I am 100% sure the game did not say that at all so this is helpful.
These are still not fun though. Like I said it is like nonstop debates but you can't pay attention to what people are saying.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
