Monomi gets SUPER SERIOUS with Monokuma. Like weirdly serious. I dont know what this means, but something is GOING DOWN at the trial for sure. She mutters something about the time for their battle being close at hand which is out of character for her because she doesnt look like a stuttering moron when she says it.
Welp she ran away. Too bad I know your secret already, lady. Well, lady and rabbit lady.
Finally time to inspect the bookshelf. Chiaki: They say, A shelf is a mirror that reflects a persons heart.. No they dont liar. No one has ever said that ever. Now youre a betrayer and a liar, which is just betraying the truth. So double betrayer.
The bookshelf contains a lot of junk but also the super secret black book that contains all the end game spoilers Nagito wouldnt share with us. Time to take a peak!
The file confirms Hajime is a lame-o reserve department student but other than that they say there arent any new clues. Bummer. Why did this make Nagito go crazy?
OH WAIT. There is something. Byakuyas file isnt in here. INTERESTING.
OHHHHHH fatty fatty whats his name, cant get through a killing game wasnt Byakuya at all! HE WAS A PHONY! A BIG FAT PHONY! He is actually ???? that Ultimate Imposter. Sois he the traitor? Then what was all this with Chiaki a minute ago?
The Ultimate Imposter has no name, no address, and they didnt even know if they were a boy or girl. So just the kind of person this wildly incompetent school would let into their facilities!
I also like how this dude was the Ultimate Imposter but couldnt lose a couple pounds so people couldnt immediately tell he wasnt Byakuya. Like imagine this dude and Byakuya were standing right next to each other. It takes all of one second to realize the guy built like a sumo wrestler that just got stung by bees is the phony. This is the worst ass Ultimate Imposter possible.
Welp thats all the investigation time. Monokuma runs off to do his announcement for THE LAST CLASS TRIAL. Aw man is this really the final chapter?
I go to check the trophies and there is one after this for finishing the game that has like 1.7% less people attaining it. So there might be some brief epilogue but thats it. ;_; PLEASE I DONT WANT YOU TO END YET
We get to the rock and Kazuichi wonders out loud why more people arent here. Uh because theyre all dead? Remember all our dead friends that died? Theyre dead. HAVE YOU NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION?
Monomi shows up to tells us Monokuma is planning something far worse once that time goes off. Lady, there are six of us left alive and one of them is a betrayer. I dont think it gets much worse than this.
Monomi says she is finally ready to fight. Couldve used that fighting spirit like nine dead friends ago, but better late than never I guess.
Wow they really killed everyone in the peripheral of this elevator, huh? Like everyone in the back and on the left and right sides are dead. This isn't an exaggeration. The survivors form a triangle at the front of the elevator. Now I know when I play the next game, to bet against anyone that has to stand on the edges of the group shots.
CLASS TRIAL TIME LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Post Chapter 5 Deadly Life Power Rankings Of Sadness And Confusion 16. Fatty Fatty Byakuya Fake, Eats Up All Our Chocolate Cake
15. Teruteru
14. Mahiru
13. Peko
12. Ibuki
11. Hiyoko
10. Mikan
9. Nekomaru
8. Gundham
7. Nagito
6. Akane Hey I have no clue for this case right now. AW YEAH FEEL THAT EXCITEMENT BABY. I was sort of toying with the idea that Nagito killed himself (especially with the poison we found in the fridge) but I cant figure out anyway he wouldve been able to tie himself up, stab his one hand with a knife, burn one of the ropes, and hold the end of the spear with his other hand and ingest poison. So I think Im eliminating that possibility. Placing Akane here is just a guess, really. I noticed in the earlier cases the killer is almost always one of the least useful in terms of looking for clues or giving us testimony. Akane did absolutely nothing here other than she said she smelled something weird in the warehouse which could just be Kazuichi fear farts for all we know. She also came sort of close to murdering him like two days ago by strangling him to death. The murder here seems much more torture-y and cruel than Id expect from Akane, but maybe the loss of Nekomaru is affecting her more than she let on?
5. Fuyuhiko Now that Im fairly certain it isnt Sonia, Fuyuhiko is the one with the most opportunity to commit the crime. He was the one who went to island 5 and I think he was also the one who assigned the islands, so if he had tied Nagito up ahead of time there would be plenty of time to set everything else up since he was there exploring it alone. Unlike Sonia, who was also on the island, he had no way of knowing the bombs were fake so torturing Nagito is still very much on the table. Im torn between Nagito helped someone kill him and Someone killed Nagito for information and if it is the second column then it is very likely to be Fuyuhiko.
4. Chiaki So Chiaki is like 99% the traitor and, thematically, it makes the most sense for the traitor to be the killer here since Nagitos whole plan was to out the traitor. But I just dont think Chiaki is the killer. She was the one who told Hajime all the places he needed to investigate and led me to a lot of the clues. Shes a terrible murderer if thats the case. Not too many murderers help the detectives solve their own crimes. Still, I feel like the traitor thing is important in some way, so Im putting Chiaki up here just in case.
3. Kazuichi Again, I have no real evidence for Kazuichi. All I got is 1) Nagito said earlier in the game hed help someone kill him to make hope reign supreme or some other gibberish and 2) recently Kazuichi has really, really wanted to get off the island. His cowardice is off the charts and maybe he finally snapped when he realized he was Sonias number eight and took Nagito up on his offer. He let Nagito plan this super complex murder and basically was just the one to close his eyes and stab him a couple of times. He was also fairly useless during the investigation and it wouldnt totally shock me if Kazuichi was the killer. I dont think its him though on account of the whole being a tremendous coward afraid to take any risks at all thing hes got going on.
2. Sonia Sonia knew the bombs were fake and has Monomi to verify this account. I couldve seen her killing him if she thought everyone was going to die, but since she knew they were basically safe I dont think shes the killer. Shes pretty much all about friendship and trusting in your friends and sunshine and rainbows and trouser snakes. The game wouldnt kill her off.
1. Hajime Alright Hajime. Trial 5. Final trial. This is where you prove youre the superior protagonist. Im counting on you, buddy.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Rushed Closing Chapter 5 Deadly Life Thoughts Because I Want To Get To The Trial I've got theories but I feel like I'm missing something here because nothing ties everything together cleanly. Nagito had poison in his refrigerator, poison handling equipment under his bed, and some sort of small plastic lid he likely peeled off the poison container. He also very likely died by poison since the Monokuma file doesn't say the huge spear in his gut is what killed him. And since he had the poison AND died by poison...it should be a suicide? Right? Am I overthinking things here? Did the game double psyche me out by going "oh boy remember case 4 was a suicide last game so it could be one here too tee hee" only for it to be case 5 that's the complicated suicide.
Like..maybe Nagito couldn't figure out the traitor so he decided to make it look as complicated as possible so we didn't think it was a suicide and then everyone dies that way when we guess wrong at the end? Same sort of thing as his "I'll blow up the island" fake plot but a slightly more clever way of taking them all out.
Two other things stood out to me: Akane kicking down the door when people told her not to, in a move that likely triggered the fire and set off whatever crazy rube goldberg set up was out there and Fuyuhiko going to the island alone and finding the bombs while "conveniently" not checking the warehouse beforehand. So if it isn't suicide, I could see it being one of these two.
But...the poison was in Nagito's room. That has to be important in some way. And they make it very clear "hey half the poison is missing from this bottle". AND Monokuma wouldn't let us into the room right away, AND the poison label that illiterate Hajime had to have Chiaki read to him said that it hydrolyzed in air quickly and would basically go away safely after a few minutes.
So. Hold on. Maybe Nagito sets up this plot to cause a fire. The fire burns up whatever container Nagito has the poison in (I do remember it said you could store it in some plastic container), he breathes in the poison, dies, and boom, we have a class trial. Is that how the murder happened?
Sooo...is Nagito the murderer for putting the poison there or is Akane the murderer for kicking down the door and causing the fire, even if it was unintentional in this scenario? I legit don't know.
I'm trying to thin if there is any way Nagito could've been working with someone here. Like someone who assisted Nagito in this suicide who is the real killer. I don't think that makes sense. Nagito could've given the poison and other stuff to the second person in that case so they could hide it, right? Unless they were just out in the open for us to see because of game related reasons (we needed clues).
I'm taking actual torture off the table. Maybe. I dunno. But Fuyuhiko was on the island alone AND could've helped set this up. Someone needed to restrain Nagito. I forgot about that part of it. Shoot. Hold on, let me think.
So Nagito has the poison. He clearly sets up the poison. But who ties up Nagito? Why is someone helping Nagito kill themselves? What is the whole point of the traitor sub plot here other than to break my heart by having it be Chiaki?
I think I'm going to quit theorizing here because I feel like I have no clue and I'm just rambling AND I could just play the game and find out that way instead! Yeah, that sounds more fun!
THIS NOW CONCLUDES THE LATEST CHAPTER OF SUPRAK SPIRALING INTO MADNESS JOIN ME NEXT TIME WHERE IT'LL SURELY HAPPEN AGAIN
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
You know I was so lost in theory crafting I forgot to comment on what really struck me as weird.
And I say this, not to body shame. I know a lot of people struggle with their weight and their are reasons for it and I understand that and there is nothing wrong with that.
But.
BUT.
This guy is the ULTIMATE IMPOSTER. He is so much an ultimate imposter, the school literally doesn't know his real name or where he comes from. He wandered into a crowd when he was seven, assumed the personality of a little boy, and his parents couldn't find him again. They don't even know his gender. They are such the fucking ultimate imposter that the person in this game could be a woman.
And this asshole has the AUDACITY to weigh 600 pounds. Have some fucking respect for your craft, man. You weigh four times as much as any one else in that school. How dare you impersonate Byakuya? HOW DARE YOU? How insulted would you be if someone was like "yo this guy is the ultimate imposter and he has assumed your life perfectly and we literally can't tell you two apart" and then the guy showed up and he was the size of a hot air balloon. How mad would you be? It reminds me of this sketch:
Like...hey, assholes, you know which one is me! Stop pretending you're confused so you don't hurt this guy's feelings because it is insulting to me.
What could this guy even be after school? You see all these other ultimates and it is like "ok Teruteru could run the biggest restaurant in Japan and Kazuichi can make some incredible new technology and Mikan could find some role in any hospital in the country." What about this person? What calling is there for someone that can mimic someone else perfectly other than the fact they weigh 400 pounds more than their target? What is he getting hired for? Impersonating someone you hated at your twenty year high school reunion so you can convince your classmates they got fat since they last saw them?
He can mold his appearance and mannerisms and personality down to the smallest detail, but losing a little bit of weight is a bridge too far for him? I understand it is for plenty of people, but the ULTIMATE IMPOSTER does not get that excuse. Of all the ultimates in any game, this dude is the least deserving of the title.
...sorry I went off on a tangent there. That wasn't even meant to be the purpose of this post.
What the hell was the reason for fat Byakuya? I am so confused. It makes me look back on case 1 a little less fondly, honestly. Sure I was shocked Byakuya got killed, but then the twist is "haha it was a fake dude all along" and I feel like they cheated. You get the shock factor without the risk of actually killing off a popular character. Is there a reason for this? (Don't tell me if there is) I can't imagine there is one. How utterly bizarre to throw in a fake, fatter version as a misdirect. I know there is so much media I've never even been exposed to or heard of, but I can almost guarantee this is the first time in the history of any story ever that a character gets fake killed off because a very fat doppleganger was just pretending to be him for a while.
How WEIRD. In a game of weird things, this might be the weirdest yet!
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I mean. You thought he was Byakuka. I'd say he successfully fooled you and thus has earned his title of Ultimate Imposter!
Oh ok two scenarios.
1) Making a former high school classmate look bad at a reunion 2) Starring in a video game where an indeterminate amount of time has passed since the first title and he gets killed right away so no one asks too many questions
Like Byakuya couldnt excuse himself to go to the bathroom and this guy slide into his place and the conversation could carry on like nothing happened.
He is less effective at his craft than a stunt double. At least there you can briefly see them from behind and think it might be the actual person.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Are you going to play V3 eventually? If so, please do another topic for that!
Yep! I want to do things in order so I'll probably play the weird spin off first (and watch the anime? I don't know if that is something I'm supposed to do or not). I'm all in on Danganronpa at the moment so I'm definitely hungry for more.
And thanks! I will!
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Chapter 5 Trial A.K.A. Chiaki Absolutely Breaks My Heart
I say this every time, but seriously Monokuma we dont need the rules here man this is our fifth time.
Monomi straight up staring daggers at Monokuma. The first four murders were fine but this time its gone TOO FAR.
Seriously it seems weird now that she is incredibly angry considering NINE OTHER STUDENTS DIED BEFORE AND YOU DID NOTHING BUT GO YOU STUPID BROTHER AND MAKE SILLY NOISES.
Fuyuhiko: If he was killed for trying to reveal the traitorThat traitor is obviously the killer! They were trying to shut Nagito up! Which would make sense Nagito except literally everyone else also had a motive of please dont blow us up I like how many pieces Im currently in so your logic sucks.
Hm ok so for the first debate Hajime ends up arguing that it likely wasnt torture because Nagitos mouth was covered up. Covered mouth means he cant talk, and not being able to talk means he cant say where the bombs were. Doh why didnt I think of that. That narrows things down a bit, at least.
So if they didnt want to find out where the bombs werethen why kill Nagito? Was it the traitor then? But Chiakis likely the traitor and I really dont think it was her. Sooooo.back to suicide?
Oh dang a rebuttal showdown already? Kazuichi breaking the all-time rebuttal showdown speed record.
Ah and the lack of blood under the tape proves he had the tape on his mouth the entire time. Hajime just flexed on Kazuichis weak argument and bodyslammed it through a table.
Akane: Who cares about the duct tape? We might as well settle this with rock paper scissors. Akane might really be the killer because that is oddly dumb, even by her low standards. Seems almost TOO nonchalant. IM ON TO YOU AKANE
Sonia: However, if they wanted to seal his mouth, they did not need to hurt him with such ferocity Oh dang Sonia thats a good point too. Ok, so why torture Nagito but leave him unable to say anything? Suicide is looking increasingly likely.
OR this feeds into my Nagito let someone kill him theory. So hed do all the dirty work and then the killer would land the final blowsomehow. Trust me it makes sense.
Like I thought, opening the door knocked over the Monokuma cutouts, which landed perfectly on the lighter somehow. Nagito clearly using his ultimate luck skill here combined with his ultimate perfect dominoes champion skill.
Akane was the one who forced the door open to cause the fire. HMMMMMM.
Oh but Akane and her super ears were the one that was like WHATS THAT STRANGE SOUND when we opened the door and heard the panels over the weird hymn. She might not bring attention to that if she was the killer. Downgrade that HMMMM to a hmmmmm.
I dont know the physics here exactly, but I feel like the door wouldnt be blocked by a Monokuma panel. Unless this thing was made of granite, the door would just sort of shove it aside because it was flimsy thin paneling.
Hm. So Chiaki points out that the panel was so close to the door that the killer shouldnt be able to leave. It was the ONLY way to get in or out she says. Couldnt the killer do all the panels but one, leave the last panel slightly inside the door, go outside, and then just stick their arm in to sort of push it into place? HMM? WHAT ABOUT THAT GAME? Maybe I should be the killer next time.
Akane: Does that mean they were hidin inside? Akane, all of us were together OUTSIDE. Together. As a group. At once. Outside. Someone mute her mic this will be easier.
The person who set this up wasNAGITO. GASP GASP GASP. I KNEW IT...I think.
Waitseriously though if he didnt have help how did he get the knife through his hand and his arm tied and hold the spear without someone handing it to him and and and...?
Also this is way too early in the case for the twist to be revealed. Nice try game. Youre not tricking me.
Chiaki: He was the victim, and he was the perpetrator toomaybe. Loving the confidence there Chiaki.
NICE now we get to the point where we figure out how Nagito tied himself up. Thats where Im stuck so please help me, game.
Akanes theory is that Nagito tied up his arms using either his teeth or his penis which surprisingly isnt the dumbest theory shes had so far this case.
OHHHHH the one rope was actually burned beforehand. Duh. Ok that makes a bit of sense.
You know something just clicked for me and I hope Im wrong because otherwise something TRAGIC has happened here and I call shenanagins.
Akane: Hajime, thats awesome! Ill letcha cop a feel if you want! Man dont you love it how girls get all horned up when you go through fire based forensic evidence?
Sonia: Akane! You should not give it away for free! Make sure they pay you first! Ah so we finally find out that Sonia is from the country of Stankonia, the Pimpistan region.
Akane: FineI just gotta get a Benjamin from him before I let him touch me, right? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING CAN WE GET BACK TO THE LITERAL MURDER
Back to the case, the plushie was the missing bit of evidence I couldnt figure out. Nagito propped the knife up using the plushie (explaining the huge hole) and then just slammed his hand down on that. Even Nagitos suicide was insane and complicated.
Ok so I think, if I figured this all out now and I rescind my previous something tragic happened. Nagito filled one of those bottles with poison and when we threw them he was actually poisoned to death. Which would make the killerSonia. She was the one who knew where the bottles were, couldve collaborated with Nagito beforehand so he did all this complicated stuff, and then made sure she grabbed the poison bottle. Or had the poison bottle hidden away somewhere separatelike the military baseso she could just go and grab it right before hand. Sonia is the killer. Book it. THATS A SUPRAK STONE COLD LOCK
Fuyuhiko still isnt happy because he shouldnt have been able to impale himself with the spear. Psh thats the easy part, I figured that out weeks ago.
This does guarantee Fuyuhiko isnt the killer. I doubt the real killer could be like you guys all think Nagito committed suicide well here is why youre WRONG oh shoot oh wait I think I messed up.
Sonia, on why the spear had to be the last thing: If you got penetrated by something so big and thick, you would die instantly! That sound you heard was Kazuichi orgasming. You know, ever since Mikan died, Sonia has jumped into the role of not realizing what shes saying is super dirty very nicely.
She has to be doing this on purpose, right? She might be trying to kill Kazuichi via blue balls.
Kazuichi also doesnt think this is a suicide. Put him on the definitely not the killer pile. Interestingly it is Chiaki and Sonia that seem the most convinced it had to be a suicide. HMMMMMM.
I do not like how Akane keeps calling a penis a front tail. It is not a cute character trait and this is like the third time now.
Fourth time now. One of the writers thought this front tail bit was hilarious and they were wrong.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Chiaki: How about we stick to The Plan to Think One Step at a Time Instead of Expecting the Answers All at Once. Ok, fine. First step of plan The Plan to Think One Step at a Time Instead of Expecting the Answers All at Once is to come up with a new name for the plan.
Second step of the plan is to explain the mechanics of how he was able to kill himself with the spear. MASSIVE SUCCESS.
Kazuichi: Th-Thats beyond crazy! Why would he do that to himself?! Hi yes have you met Nagito. He is beyond crazy. Hopefully that answers your question.
Hajime posits that his goal was to get everyone executed by making a suicide look like a murder. Sure, cool, but Hajime we still have half the case left so I know it is more complicated than that.
Sonia: If he had no qualms with killing everyone, he did not have to cause a bomb scare to reveal the traitor. Hm yeah good point Sonia. I kind of doubt Sonia is the SECERT SURPRISE KILLER now because we were all ready to vote suicide so she doesnt have much of an incentive to speak up here if shes trying to get away with stabby murder funtime.
HMMMM. Fuyuhiko immediately tries to explain it away. You know, he was on the island when Nagito was likely there setting things up. Maybe Nagito gave him the grenade full of poison after making it since they were on the same island. *puts Fuyuhiko back on suspect list*
Fuyuhiko: Hes a fucking bastard who killed himself for his delusions of grandeur! Its not that unthinkable! *underlines Fuyuhikos name on the suspect list*
Everyone sort of reluctantly agrees that we can vote on the killer, but at the very last second Hajime does his best Phoneix Wright OBJECTION impression to stop him. Aw yeah go my Hajime.
Fuyuhiko: H-hold on? Why? *circles Fuyuhikos name on the suspect list*
Chiaki now also comes out in favor of holding on to the vote until we solve all the mysteries in the case. That just leavesFuyuhiko that seems to want to take the vote. *draws large arrows pointing to Fuyuhikos name on the suspect list*
Chiaki and Hajime wont let the case conclude until they solve one remaining mystery.CAUSE OF DEATH.
Thats right! Think wed forget Monokuma? Well WE WONT. Finish your shoddy mortician report, you garbage bear.
Chiaki insists on going forward just to be safe. Fuyuhiko: Just to be safe, huh? Tch, guess I have no choiceIf thats the case, Ill do my best to go along with it. *highlights Fuyuhikos name and covers it in glitter on the suspect list*
Also this hangmans gambit was the worst in the entire game. There were letters flying from all over the place and it was impossible to clear them all before getting hit. This is still the least fun mechanic in the game and I hope Im done with it now.
Monokuma theater time. Hope thats the last one of these too. Hooray all the bad stuff is wrapping up!
Monokuma: Thats even sadder than watching a high school romcom full of guys! Holy shit Monokuma, youre a evil mastermind and a homophobe? MONOKUMA IS CANCELLED #Monokumaisoverparty #Notmymonokuma #blessed
We go over all the other possible causes of death and happen to bring up the giant inconspicuous bottle labeled LITERAL POISON TO KILL SOMEONE WITH. Yeah I wonder if that might be it guys.
Also, hey Nagito, evil mastermind, maybe you shouldve tossed the bottle of poison after you used it you dingus.
Fuyuhiko doesnt seem to be buying the whole poison theory. Fuyuhiko: However, its common for blood blotches to appear on a body thats been poisoned You sure seem to know a lot about how this poison would work, friend-o. *writes Fuyuhikos name a second time on the suspect list, crosses out all other names and talks to the engraver who made the password carving to make a FUYUHIKO DEFINITELY DID IT carving*
Fuyuhiko: Hell no! No matter how you slice it, he was totally killed by that spear! Alright Fuyuhiko Im still waiting to get my Fuyuhiko is guilty carving back but once I do Im going to add to it because this is just getting crazy now.
Were finally getting to the good stuff. We have agreed on the poison and gotten everyone to agree that he likely breathed it through his nose.
I am going through the evidence and I dont think I have anything that points at Fuyuhiko as the killer. Or anyone else, for that matter. I feel like Im still missing something small but I dont know what it could be.
HAHA so now everyone agrees that he was likely poisoned. HOORAY. But they all still think it was suicide so who cares. Less hooray. Come on guys that isnt TWISTY enough for the last case.
Fuyuhiko: All right! All the mysteries should be solved now! We should get on with the voting time, right?! Ok Im just going to stop writing these all down now because at this point either Fuyuhiko did it or the game is intentionally trying to frame him.
Chiaki: There mightve beenan accomplice. First off, excellent use of a dramatic pause. I basically could hear the DUN DUN DUN. Secondly, this is why Chiaki is my bestie this game.
Chiaki mentions how weird it is they didnt find any sort of container for the poison at the scene, which is why she thinks there mightve been an accomplice. Akane is shocked that Nagito had to put the poison in some sort of container. She is used to the old-fashioned type of liquid poison where youd just slip it in your pocket and grab a handful when you need to use it.
Kazuichi: Isnt it okay to close this case yet? Im not in the mood for unexpected twists! Oh Kazuichi. Youre in the wrong game.
AUGH NOT ANOTHER HANGMANS GAMBIT I CHOOSE DEATH GAME I CHOOOOOOOSE DEEEEEEEATH
Fire Inspector Sonia comes through huge by offhandedly mentioning that she noticed the fire grenades had a small aluminum seal on the top. See this is why it always pays off to be friends with someone that is an expert in fire safety.
The game turns into an episode of Dora the Explorer for a second. We need to solve How does Sonia mentioning an aluminum seal on the fire grenade prove Nagito tampered with the fire grenade with aluminum seal found under Nagitos bed. This one feels almost like cheating guys.
The rest of the gang still doesnt seem to understand the importance of the fact that the fire grenade contained the poison AND the poison acted instantaneously and oh hey the five of us happened to go get fire grenades and toss them right where he was immediately at his time of death.
I like how this case is going so far, but honestly without a cause of death in the report there is no way for us to differentiate between Nagito was poisoned and used the spear to hide this fact and Nagito was speared to death and is using the poison to confuse us.
Like, say for example Nagito took a fire grenade, removed the seal, didnt mix up anything, and put it right back. Then he planted the seal under his bed and used the mask and gloves to dump some of the poison somewhere meaningless. How would the evidence look any different than it is now?
Chiaki breaks it down for them and everyone is SHOOK. Thats right folks, murder is back on the menu.
Uh oh. Oh no. OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I think I was wrong. The person didnt throw the fire grenade intentionally. Nagito mixed the poison grenade up with the others and someone grabbed it randomly.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Again, this is an interesting twist, but I have no idea how the evidence would be any different if someone intentionally threw it. Say Fuyuhiko and Nagito struck up some sort of deal. Fuyuhiko keeps the poison grenade on his person and just doesnt grab one when we go to the break room. He tosses the grenade when everyone else does. How can we rule that out? How would anything be different?
Our scenario is pretty bad though since now we have no clue who did it.
Oh Monokuma straight up admits that the murderer is whoever made Nagito breath in the poison. So that resolves that uncertainty I suppose.
Also this is BOLGNA. This is still a suicide. There isnt a court in the world that would convict whoever the guilty party is. Nagito is the one who made Nagito breath the poison. He set up a scenario where hed be forced to drink the poison and did everything other than throw the bottle (which the person thought was a bottle of something else). That isnt murder. MONOKUMA YOUR LAWS SUCK
OH THE DESPAIR. Everyone is despairing pretty hard now so good going Nagito, you got your wish I guess.
Sonia says that not even Monokuma should know who the killer is. He should, actually. It is Nagito. This is a suicide unless he insists on being a butt.
Monokuma counters by saying he just knows stuff, cameras or not. As proof, he tells us Sonia pooped once yesterday. Yeah that doesnt prove anything other that youre monitoring our bathroom usage too pervert. Im going to need some non-bowel movement related evidence.
Sonia: Please stop! I will never become Queen! Ah yes the only queen provision of thou shall not poop. Truly heavy is the stomach of those that wear the crown.
Chiaki says there is one way to figure this out, but we need to go over everything from the beginning. This seems like an excuse to force me to do the closing arguments minigame Chiaki instead of just having you come out and say it.
I really wish there was a scene where Nagito set this all up, laid down, pulled up his spear and then realized his measurement was off by like half a foot so it was dangling a little over to his left. Then he mutters oh son of a bitch before having to undo everything and reset everything back up to fix his measurement.
Chiaki: Did Nagitoreally not care who the killer was? Oh no. OH NO. OH NOOOOOOOOOO.
Oh no no no no no.
NO NO NO NO NO I REFUSE
FUCK THIS I REFUSE
GAME DONT DO THIS TO ME
YOU SON OF A BITCH GAME DONT YOU DO THIS TO ME
The killer is Chiaki through some straight up bullshit technicality. Nagito you stone cold bastard.
Oh Nagito FUCK YOU YOU MOTHERFUCKER
Holy shit how fucking brilliant and shitty at the same time.
Have I said fuck you yet?
Nagito wanted the traitor to kill him and used his stupid luck power he has to luck into the traitor being the one to throw the poison. I forgot that Nagito is basically Longshot and just lucks into whatever desire he wants.
Ive had the game paused for like five minutes now just because Im mad at it. This isnt fair. CHIAKI DIDNT DO IT GAME. THIS ISNT A MURDER. Can I call a real lawyer? I feel like theyd be able to get her off in minutes.
Ok so Nagito has ultimate luck right? Heres what he does. Get a piece of paper. Write the traitor is at the top and then assign the six survivors a number. Get a dice. Roll the dice. His ultimate luck power will make it roll to the right number. There. It took me all of ten seconds to figure this out and I wouldnt have gotten myself AND Chiaki murdered because of it.
Chiaki is the ultimate traitor bro and spends like five minutes convincing all of us his target was the traitor so with his luck it shouldve been the traitor that picked up the grenade.
Now Chiaki says the traitor COULDNT reveal themselves during the bomb scare, or even now, because they werent created to do that. PSST HEY GUYS I THINK CHIAKI MIGHT BE THE TRAITOR.
Monomi is far less of a bro and basically says, CHIAKI YOU SHUT YOUR BEAUTIFUL MOUTH. This is why everyone hates you Monomi.
Chiaki basically goads Hajime into picking her as the traitor, and when you do she fesses up immediately. I have so many questions but for now Im going to keep reading because I need to know more.
Shes also not a very good traitor because she basically was the one that was most responsible for figuring out this case, and then the only one pushing the murderer mustve been the traitor narrative.
In the end, she betrayed herself. Ultimate betrayer, imho.
Chiaki and Monomi are both mum on what exactly the Future Foundation is other than its not what we think. Chiaki also isnt clear exactly as to why she could tell us now but now before. Dont these two know this is the last trial?! Now is the time for spoilers, people.
There is a dramatic scene where Chiaki begs with Hajiime to reveal her as the traitor and Hajime begs with her to not make him do that because its the same as killing her. THE EMOTIONS. THE EMOTIOOOOOONS.
Monomi then starts flipping out and whining that she doesnt even know Chiaki and Chiaki isnt the traitor and she hates Chiaki and also who is Chiaki again I dont think there is a Chiaki here pssst hey run Chiaki. Im forced to do a Panic Talk Action because the game hates me. I cant figure out how to reload anymore, so I go into frenzy and it once again beats the entire thing for me. Fun.
Hey Monomi you idiot you realize if we pick the wrong person we all die right?
This is also stupidly easy to disprove considering we have your stupid notebook you big stupid dumb dumb. Monomi why are you so committed to being the worst?
It is also super embarrassing to Chiaki for this notebook to be revealed to be hers. Not because it confirms shes the traitor but because it confirms she writes at a fifth grade level. She even betrayed the education system, apparently.
Sonia doesnt take this well as she starts crying and asking if all the time they spent together was a fake. I hope youre happy now TRAITOR you made Sonia cry.
Chiaki is caught because Sonias account about how Monomi was creeping on her and thus knew the bomb was a fake too. See Monomi you really do ruin everything.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Also, Monomi, you jerk, maybe share that information with all of us about Nagitos insane plan with the fake bombs you knew about and there isnt even a murder this time. WHY MUST YOU RUIN EVERYTHING YOU STUPID RABBIT?
Oh boy. Poor Sonia. The bad news is she is not taking this well at all and just does not want Chiaki to be the killer. The good news is she is rapidly getting more points in the Supraks favorite DR2 power rankings.
I have to do a rebuttal showdown against her and the music stops entirely. That is a really, really cool touch.
Sonia: H-Hajimeare you going to believe Monokuma over Chiaki?! Psst Sonia, Chiaki was the one who told us it was her. Youre the one not believing Chiaki.
Hajime coming in strong with a counter. I believe inthe Chiaki whos been with us this whole time. That Chiaki is saying sh wants to protect us with her life! So the only thing we can do is believe her!
This case is so good it might have finally flipped my opinion of this game in comparison to the first one so good job trial number five.
Chiaki: Theres nothing to be sad about, you know. Cuzthis is different from what happened before. Unlike before, you guys dont have to stay alive by doubting someoneYou guys can stay alive by believing in me. CHIAAAAAAAAAKI. My emotions. MY EMOTIONS.
When it is time to vote and it does that screen where you scan around the students, everyone is sad or crying except for Chiaki who is smiling happily. Thats another really nice touch, game. Good job!
Sonia: E-even if you were a traitoryounever betrayed us. Hey guys did I mention this case is really good yet?
Chiaki still isnt giving up information about the Future Foundation. I guess we have to wait to the epilogue to find all this stuff out. Looks like Im not sleeping tonight!
Nagitos goal was apparently to reveal the traitor by having them be the only one to survive while the rest of us died. Not a fun goal, Nagito. Im beginning to think we wernet actually friends.
Monomi mentions what a kindhearted person Chiaki is, and Chiaki says she thinks she gets it from our dad and our big brother. You know, I hate to say this now of all times, but I think one of the two of you might be adopted.
Monomi kills Monokuma twice by blowing herself up in an attempt to protect us from him going forward. He only has endless clones left. Hey if youre going to be doing this for a while can I go and get a sandwich Im getting kind of hungry.
Apparently Monokuma can infuse his personality to the plushies we saw earlier so he can just keep pumping out clones. I know this is late for this, but I dont think this is very realistic, guys. Im not an expert on advanced killer bear robots but I dont think this is how it works.
Chiaki tells Monomi she can stop fighting. Its not about giving up, you know. Lets believe in them. Lets believe in everyoneand leave the rest to them. Hey guys did I mention this who end scene is like really good. Did I? I dont think I have enough.
NO NOT PUNISHMENT TIME IM NOT READY
Ok that execution was really cool. But that also sucked. Chiaki just waiting there at the end waiting for the last Tetris block to fall on her. NO CHIAKI PLEASE DONT DIE.
Monokuma says this is the end of the killing field trip. We can all leave now. You know, for some reason I doubt whatever you have planned is in our best interest.
Hajime seems to think it has something to do with the total number of people left based on how Monokuma said You Five in highlighted yellow text. The yellow text is always important, Hajime, good catch.
It is kind of weird there are two days left and Monokuma is just like yeah whatever man, you guys are free to go if you want.
Akane sees through Monokumas evil plot of FIVE students. Are you plannin to make a volleyball team!? And thus we conclude Dangonronpa 2: Way To Much Effort To Make A Volleyball Team.
Mini-Nekomaru pops in to remind her you need six people for a volleyball team. Thanks for that, man, but were kind of in the middle of something here.
Monokuma says we have to wait until the timer reaches zero to find out all the answers we need and to discover just how messed up their new world is. He also wants to end the new world theyre trying to make. Ugh guys I kind of need to know these answers now. Its already 1 AM here.
Hajime just tries to sleep through the last couple of days until the timer hits zero. Fair but hey game why not just end the timer immediately afterwards if all the extra story that came from this was Hajime slept some and then tried sleeping some more?
Something happens because Hajimes reality glitches out. Like stuff is de-rezzing and blocks of the screen are just sort of falling off. Oh and now Chiaki is outside. Hey guys Hajimes brain might need a reboot I think he downloaded a virus while sleeping.
WHAT IS GOING ON I NEED TO SLEEP.
Insane hallucination Chiaki tells me Nagito left a message for us on the laptop that only opened after 24 hours have passed and that everyone else is waiting at the restaurant. Well Im sure this wont be crazy so lets go check it out I suppose.
Oh Gundham is here too. And the screen is messing up again. Im getting Doki Doki Literature Club vibes here and I DONT LIKE IT.
And heres Fatty Fatty Stopped A Scheme, Whys He In My Fever Dream? Looks like the whole gangs here.
Nagito wants to tell us about the SUPER SECRET PAGE he found in the book that changed absolutely everything. But the game gltiches out to a bunch of random letters at this part. Guys the ending is like five minutes away can you stop teasing me please!
Ok so the game also isnt telling us what the terrible despair waiting for us is or who Monokuma wants to show this despair to. Game stop glitching at the important parts please.
Oh hey it doesnt glitch out when Nagito reads us the password to get to Nezumi castle. All I had to do was ask nicely. NICE.
Also the password is the upside down LEON clue from the first game. So the Future Foundation isSAYAKAS CORPSE I KNEW IT.
Apparently the castle is the only place that is safe from Monokuma. Well lets just go sleep there then.
I get immediately teleported to the ruin on the second island and it looks like the sky is bleeding. Uh. Guys? Anyone else see the bleeding sky? Anyone? No, just me? Ok cool. Let me just get an umbrella.
Seeing everyone here again is so weird. WHAT IS GOING ON.
Hahaha Fatty Fatty Just A Ghost, Puts A Snickers On His Toast is giving orders and Ibuki starts oinking at him because of Hiyoko: I told her that you only understand piggy-talk! Besides Chiaki and Gundham, I might miss you most of all you little psychopath you.
We put in the password for the door and it opens and and and
Itsa trial ground? This doesnt seem like a very cool place to be at all, Nagito. You know, Im starting to wonder if this guy was acting in our best interest after he tried to have us all killed.
The screen keeps falling apart. WHAT IS GOING ON GUYS
The timer hits zero and the grand reveal is.it says stage clear in this weird blocky lettering.
Oh hell no we cant be stopping here. DONT BE CRUEL. Give me something at least game, please.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Post Chapter 5 Trial Power Rankings Of Actual Despair 16. Fatty Fatty Imposter Man, Eats Food From The Garbage Can
15. Teruteru
14. Mahiru
13. Peko
12. Ibuki
11. Hiyoko
10. Mikan
9. Nekomaru
8. Gundham
7. Nagito
6. Chiaki Of all the deaths in both games, I think this one hit the hardest. Poor Chiaki. She really did just want to protect her friends and she gets killed her on an absolute BS technicality. I loved that case and it was far and away the best this game largely because of how strong a character she was this game and in this trial particularly. RIP Chiaki. Of all the traitors that ever betrayed me, you were the least betrayful.
5. Hajime Were at the end game here so I dont think anyone else is going to die. If anyone does, it will be Hajime in a final grand sacrifice to save his friends. That likely wont happen because there isnt anyone left to plausibly take over as a temporary protagonist, but hes the only one who is in any sort of danger.
4. Kazuichi Kazuichi might die of a panic attack if anyone sneezes too loudly around him but beyond that hes fine. Hes sort of a weird character to reach end game because I dont think he has as clear of a role as anyone else left. He just sort of got here because the game didnt feel like killing him, I guess. Congrats Kazuichi.
3. Akane Next time when I do my power ranking for V3, I am going to look at the character art and whichever female has the largest chest, Im marking her down as safe. Akane doesnt even have a personality like HIna did, but the developers clearly liked her character art so she gets to make it to end game.
2. Fuyuhiko Baby gangster with a heart of gold. Well gold. He was pretty clearly going to survive after Peko sacrificed herself for him. I dont hate his character, but he also wasnt one of my favorites. There are like five other people I wish had this spot instead, but since he had the redemption arc going for him he had some pretty serious plot armor.
1. Sonia Hooray Sonia! Sonia has become one of my favorite characters this game because she still has that silly comic relief from her naivete, but she is also a character of substance as demonstrated by the end of this trial. She balances both well, so its nice she got to make it to the end. Shes the only character I really like left alive, so she gets some bonus points for being cool and also avoiding being killed off to forward the plot.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Chapter 5 Reflections of "Do I Want To Keep Playing Immediately Or Stop Playing Forever?" It is 2:30 AM as of writing this up right now and I desperately want to go back and keep playing. I feel like I am seconds away from getting those plot revelations I've been desperate for and I don't want to wait until normal waking hours to find them out.
This case was excellent. Well written and clever and the perfect closure for both Nagito and Chiaki. Even with Chapter 4 I was like "is this game really better than DR1" and now I can definitively say "yep" even without the final chapter/epilogue stuff or whatever coming up. I have absolutely no complaints about that chapter. OTHER THAN CHIAKI DIDN'T DESERVE PUNISHMENT I DEMAND A RECOUNT
That line in there of me stopping for like five minutes wasn't even a joke. Things clicked right before the big reveal and I put my Vita down and contemplated my life decisions up to this point because boy did I not want things to wrap up the way they were wrapping up.
Also, I didn't mention this in my notes, but I am such a moron it is embarrassing. I had thought, the entire case, that the Monokuma panels tipped over in a line and somehow fell in such a way to click the lighter on. It wasn't until closing arguments that I was like "ok duh it just tipped over an already lit lighter". Which makes like 100x more sense and I have no idea why I had that original stupid thought in my head in the first place.
I have no clue what is going on now with the overarching plot other than "something weird and exciting". The entire game is glitching out DDLC style and all the dead people were back and no one said anything about them being dead. I'm super interested and want to keep playing like right now.
This final cast...is not what I was hoping for! That's fine, I get it, but I'm a bit sad about who I drug along to the finish line here, game. I want a recount.
How badly does Kazuichi stick out? What is he doing here? Fuyuhiko lost Peko and Sonia lost Gundham and Akane lost Nekomaru and Hajime lost Chiaki and...seriously, what is Kazuichi doing here? I feel like they messed up a bit here. It should've been Hiyoko, and not just because I liked her. This would have been a perfect final cast of "people who lost someone and are determine to see the end" if we had the Hiyoko-Mahiru connection. Or if Kazuichi had been given any sort of other connection other than "Sonia's stalker" the entire game. My theory is Hiyoko originally lived but they needed someone to fix the elevator in Chapter 4 to get the plot to work so Kazuichi got sloppily thrown back in instead.
I have no clue what the parallels in the earlier cases mean now. Was that just fun fanservice? A misdirect? I see no connection to 1-5 here at all. That was where they discovered Mukuro's body and there wasn't really a murder. I can't even think of a stretch here for a comparison. I guess...that was the one where Junko tried to set up Kyoko right? This was kinda a set up too, I guess, only Nagito was more competent in his execution. And I think 1-5 gets the helper character of Alter Ego killed right? And the helpers of Monomi and Chiaki get killed here? Is...is that parallel? I don't even know. Like I said, I don't know if the earlier parallels were for story reasons or just for fun to wink at fans of the first game at this point, so I'm really just spitballing here.
It is too late and I'm too tired no so I guess I'll have to wait to tomorrow to try and finish things off. SAD.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Chiaki: Did Nagitoreally not care who the killer was? Oh no. OH NO. OH NOOOOOOOOOO. Oh no no no no no. NO NO NO NO NO I REFUSE FUCK THIS I REFUSE GAME DONT DO THIS TO ME YOU SON OF A BITCH GAME DONT YOU DO THIS TO ME The killer is Chiaki through some straight up bullshit technicality. Nagito you stone cold bastard. Oh Nagito FUCK YOU YOU MOTHERFUCKER Holy shit how fucking brilliant and shitty at the same time. Have I said fuck you yet?
*Nagito laugh*
NaGOATo claims another victim.
2-5 is my favorite case in the series and Nagito is 100% why. Dude weaponizes "Ultimate Lucky Student"
Suprak the Stud posted...
I have to do a rebuttal showdown against her and the music stops entirely. That is a really, really cool touch. Sonia: H-Hajimeare you going to believe Monokuma over Chiaki?! Psst Sonia, Chiaki was the one who told us it was her. Youre the one not believing Chiaki. Hajime coming in strong with a counter. I believe inthe Chiaki whos been with us this whole time. That Chiaki is saying sh wants to protect us with her life! So the only thing we can do is believe her! This case is so good it might have finally flipped my opinion of this game in comparison to the first one so good job trial number five. Chiaki: Theres nothing to be sad about, you know. Cuzthis is different from what happened before. Unlike before, you guys dont have to stay alive by doubting someoneYou guys can stay alive by believing in me. CHIAAAAAAAAAKI. My emotions. MY EMOTIONS. When it is time to vote and it does that screen where you scan around the students, everyone is sad or crying except for Chiaki who is smiling happily. Thats another really nice touch, game. Good job!
Just the best case.
Hyped for what's coming as well.
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
I remember when I played this game for the first time, I was so happy going into this case because Chiaki was my favorite character by a wide margin and shed never kill anybody.
2. this epilogue is just as long as any other chapter, if not longer. so leave yourself the time.
3. 2-5 is the best case in the series. that said i think the cast makes this game way more enjoyable than game 1 on every level, even 2-2 and 2-3. but there were no reservations on 2-1 and 2-4, which i have as better than any game 1 case. part of it which i'm not sure you've mentioned is that classmates are just a ton smarter in trials, and adding the agree mechanic is so strong.
4. game definitely still hates you enough to make you do panic-talk even in the best of cases...
5. from a dr2 perspective. sonia is definitely the best character remaining and she grew a ton in 2-4 and 2-5. but with akane/fuyuhiko/kazuichi, the rest of the cast entering it kinda ensures the banter opps and iq level will be weaker.
6. don't spoil DDLC... ! been kinda glazing over those comments in fear.
7. anyway, still loving these long, detailed recaps! looking forward to the ending ---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
I've been purposefully quiet while you were going into this case, because I didn't want to raise your expectations too high, but 2-5 is legitimately my favorite murder mystery in all of fiction, and it's why Nagito is my favorite character in all of Danganronpa. Thankfully, it seems like you agree with both counts, and I couldn't be happier about it. 2-5 is the first major reason everyone gets really excited to see a Danganronpa playthrough topic.
Suprak the Stud posted...
I have to do a rebuttal showdown against her and the music stops entirely. That is a really, really cool touch.
Yeah, the last half hour of the trial is sooooo fucking good, and it's the little details like this that really add up to make it a master class of writing.
And good call on waiting until today to finish, cuz 2-6 takes a while.
Chiaki: Did Nagitoreally not care who the killer was? Oh no. OH NO. OH NOOOOOOOOOO. Oh no no no no no. NO NO NO NO NO I REFUSE FUCK THIS I REFUSE GAME DONT DO THIS TO ME YOU SON OF A BITCH GAME DONT YOU DO THIS TO ME The killer is Chiaki through some straight up bullshit technicality. Nagito you stone cold bastard. Oh Nagito FUCK YOU YOU MOTHERFUCKER Holy shit how fucking brilliant and shitty at the same time.
Yesss. Best moment of the series by far.
I am not a big fan of Nagito but man his scheme here is A+. I can't help but admire it.
Also, another thing I like about this game that you touched upon a bit in the write up is how the characters actually try to help solve the murders. DR1's cast is as helpless as wet paper compared to them.
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Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future!
I'm not going to necessarily agree with 2-5 being the best since I do have a strong attachment to some V3 stuff, but it is DAMN close at the very least. Certainly a high point for the franchise.
And yes, you have a full chapter left, buckle in lol.
I still love that my old roommate used to refer to it as "Hope Dope's Wild Ride" and it very clearly stuck with me, since I referred to it as such in an earlier post while on surgery-medication.
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2. this epilogue is just as long as any other chapter, if not longer. so leave yourself the time.
3. 2-5 is the best case in the series. that said i think the cast makes this game way more enjoyable than game 1 on every level, even 2-2 and 2-3. but there were no reservations on 2-1 and 2-4, which i have as better than any game 1 case. part of it which i'm not sure you've mentioned is that classmates are just a ton smarter in trials, and adding the agree mechanic is so strong.
4. game definitely still hates you enough to make you do panic-talk even in the best of cases...
5. from a dr2 perspective. sonia is definitely the best character remaining and she grew a ton in 2-4 and 2-5. but with akane/fuyuhiko/kazuichi, the rest of the cast entering it kinda ensures the banter opps and iq level will be weaker.
6. don't spoil DDLC... ! been kinda glazing over those comments in fear.
7. anyway, still loving these long, detailed recaps! looking forward to the ending
2) I stupidly started last night, finished "chapter 0" and was like "oh shoot this is actually a full case" like five minutes into chapter 6 so I had to stop. The trophy list has almost the same completion percentage for chapter 5 as the "complete the game" one, so I thought this was just some brief little wrap up. Turns out everyone just is really interested on how things finish after chapter 5 I guess!
4) I don't know if I wasn't paying enough attention or if it has just been too long, but I still don't feel like I fully understand how PTA works. I press when I'm supposed to but it keeps telling me I'm missing and I don't fully understand. But then I activate the uber mode and it literally clears almost the entire counter with me just mashing buttons. The whole set up is kinda a mess. I still hate it less than hangman's gambit though!
6) Erp. Sorry. Super careless of me. The good news is I didn't actually spoil anything but I probably shouldn't have said anything at all since it is for a completely unrelated game. I'll be more careful!
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I've been purposefully quiet while you were going into this case, because I didn't want to raise your expectations too high, but 2-5 is legitimately my favorite murder mystery in all of fiction, and it's why Nagito is my favorite character in all of Danganronpa. Thankfully, it seems like you agree with both counts, and I couldn't be happier about it. 2-5 is the first major reason everyone gets really excited to see a Danganronpa playthrough topic.
Yeah, the last half hour of the trial is sooooo fucking good, and it's the little details like this that really add up to make it a master class of writing.
And good call on waiting until today to finish, cuz 2-6 takes a while.
Have you watched Knives Out? Different medium (and I'm not quite sure you would classify this as a murder mystery) but that is the one recent fiction example that jumps out at me as being really remarkable.
(Not to try to change your mind or anything though because 2-5 was truly excellent so I get it)
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
I can't wait to discuss the game after you're done.
The correct order for what you have left is Ultra Despair Girls - Anime - V3.
Ok thanks! I have the games and was considering getting crunchyroll specifically for the anime.
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Yes...just be aware that the quality of those products is not on par with the mainline franchise.
Mileage may vary. ESPECIALLY the Vita version of UDG, nab that on PS4 or PC if you have the option.
Oh really? I had a couple friends tell me 3 is the best of the games. Er, V3. Apparently 3 =/= V3.
I've heard much more mixed things on Despair Girls. Unfortunately I'm a huge Vita fan (I think I literally have every physical NA game outside of like five) and I already own it for the Vita. From what I've heard it probably isn't worth buying twice so I'm just gonna try my luck here and try to power through to get back to the good stuff.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
Main issue on Vita is the controls. If you weren't already aware, UDG is a Resident Evil 4 style puzzle action shooter. Not the optimal way to play it, but even as someone who likes UDG more than most it's definitely not worth buying twice...like I did.
DR3 is an anime and is indeed not the same as the 3rd actual mainline game, V3, which I would also say is the best entry in the franchise. DR3 is....I'm sure someone else will state otherwise so definitely feel free to go into it with your own open mind, but I personally think it's not only bad, but a detriment to the franchise as a whole. Would definitely rather I had not seen it.
I think I quit halfway through DR3 and then read a synopsis of the rest. From what I read it sounded okay but probably not worth my time finishing it I guess.
Didn't touch Despair Girls. Had no interest in it and I don't think I missed much by skipping it.
You can count me in the group that has V3 as their favorite.
I have no clue who Nagito is talking to here at the start of the chapter but I can only assume it is really bad news.
Nagito and mystery person are on a ship of some sort. Mystery person I pity you for being stuck in a small space with Nagito for any period of time.
The mystery person tells Nagito they have luck for their talent as well. I would guess protagonist from the first game but mystery person seems like too much of a snob for that to be true.
Mystery person is also bad business. Sounds like they were possibly a follower of Junko and has some very interesting views on how the mediocre are holding back the truly excellent.
Well the good news is this chapter is as bonkers crazy as the last one ended. Within the first five minutes, the mystery person says they have the Ultimate Despair in their pocket (an IPhone with Flappy Bird?) and Nagito shows that he has somehow attached Junkos hand to his arm and is very proud of the fact it hasnt rotted yet. I dont remember Nagito having a womans hand when he was still alive, so Im assuming this is part of the fever dream.
Im just guessing though because I have zero clue whats going on WEEEEEEEE
Nagito is also hopeful Junko can be brought back since she is his SWORN ENEMY and he wants to kill her himself. Odd to sew her hand on to your arm then man, but, yeah, sure.
???: I see, so you salvaged the bodyyou really are a boring person. You know there are a lot of words Id use for someone that that has sewn on part of a corpse to their body. Boring isnt one though.
??? has like four other corpse heads sewn to their chest so dont come to them with your weak one hand nonsense, Nagito.
Oh so we were sailing to Jabberwock Island. Thats sort of what I thought before Nagito pulled out his Junko hand.
??? says he wont ever see Nagito again because hes boring and useless. Poor Nagito even other crazy people dont like him.
Oh wait that was Chapter 0 and its over now. Well Im not re-ranking the characters so just assume my previous list holds true again.
Hajime wakes up and has no recollection of how he went from the trial grounds to an empty classroom. Either this is part of his mental breakdown or hes been drinking again.
Monokuma calls us to the school gymnasium and when I get there only the living people are there. Dead people mustve gotten stuck in limbo somewhere.
Monokuma uh made this school between the entrance of the ruins and the front door and did it for the main cast who is coming to visit us. Is he talking about the cast from the last game? Im curious where this game occurs in relationship to the first game. I cant remember if that was established or not.
Before letting us graduate, he wants us to know the truth about the WORLD waiting for us out there. I'm now assuming this takes place canonically during the capitol riot and that shit was too wild even for Monokuma.
Hajime: So many things I dont understand have happened on this island You and me both, man.
Monokuma left notes around the school for us to find so we can learn the truth about the outside world. Hey man can you just tell us so we dont have to wander around for like ten minutes
Everyone loudly says well since we dont have to worry about the murders any more we can just split up! before wandering off and my danger alarm just went from mild to EXTRA SPICY.
I leave the gymnasium and Im transported somewhere else and the screen is all broken and static-y. Hey can someone else confirm theyre seeing this? I might need to call an eye doctor.
The first room we investigate is the dojo. There is a conspicuous magazine on the floor which is a manga made by Monokuma about the history of Hopes Peak Academy. I knew this whole thing was just a front for a struggling manga writer to get inspiration for his next novel.
This game Monokuma has made a video game, a movie, and a manga series. Holy shit guys he's not evil he's just trying to have a captive audience for his creative endeavors.
The manga tells us two important things. One, the tragedy happened and was bad and two, the reserve corps was created to get more money for the main department to study ultimate talents. Wait are we students or lab rats?
Monokuma loudly remarks that it is sure weird I dont remember I didnt have any talent since that should be something I knew about before I went to school and they claim to have only erased my school memories. Ok so Ill keep in mind theres another twist coming about that, thanks man.
Next manga says the tragedy of Hopes Peak had a key players by the name of Izuru Kamukura. I dont remember if thats someone Im supposed to know or not. I think thats a new name? Maybe? It sounds vaguely familiar for some reason but I dont want to Google it for fear of spoilers.
Izuru was the best of the best and the most amazing cool person ever and he could burp the entire alphabet in a single burp and always got that water bottle flip trip to work on its first try. He wasTHE ULTIMATE HOPE which means Nagito is a damn imposter.
To protect such rare talent, the academy completely conceleaed all evidence of Izurus origins and identity. Ok cool so Im actually Izuru right? Just with my memory hacked? That's why I can't remember things from before school isn't it? I'm the Ultimate Awesome Dude so suck it Nagito.
Errr except the student council, 13 more of the best and brightest, were all brutally murdered by Izuru. So hopefully Im not Izuru. Hopefully Izuru is someone else. Nagito, I changed my mind, you can be the Ultimate Hope again.
The school tried to keep this a secret. Hey, quick question, how do you keep the murder of 13 students, all at once, a secret? Did they have a Weekend At Bernies type scenario where they put sunglasses on them and had some one operate them like a puppet, waving at the parents from the school windows and sending text messages about how they could come out now because they were dead ER I mean dead tired.
Hmm so another student (a.k.a. Junko) used this to their advantage to reveal the secrets to the world and get the reserve course students to rise up since they were already badly treated. I mean, not 13 of them getting murdered and the school pretending it never happened bad but still pretty bad. They didnt get any chicken tenders at lunch. It was serious.
This heralded Hopes Peak Academys destruction. To be fair, it does sound like they deserved it. Trying to cover up the murder of 13 students is not a great thing.
The reserve course uprising eventually made its way online and began corrupting people from all over the world. Damn you reddit. First you break the stock market and now the entire world?
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
This was organized by a group know as the ULTIMATE DESPAIR who used their connections throughout society to start uprisings, brainwash people, and do other bad things to make the situation worse. This is the part the game sort of handwaves over because it is hard to explain how something called THE BIGGEST MOST AWFUL MOST TRAGIC EVENT IN HUMAN HISTORY started because of a couple of emo high school students but honestly the logic at least makes enough sense that I won't dwell on it too much.
Monokuma now is bored of drawing manga so he just tells me the next part (while Fuyuhiko gives him weird side eyes from the same room). Junko used her despair powers to recruit other people into her despair cult. She recruited a whole bunch of powerful people so no one could stop her and then she went full on MEGA DESPAIR and ruined the whole world. What a jerk.
Humans who are obsessed with their philosophy have an uncanny power to attract others. Its a trait shared by many famous leaders throughout history right? Theres nothing strange about it. I mean its still a little strange but ok game.
Ive noticed there is a lot of meta commentary going on now where the characters of this game were basically me last game. A dojo with cherry blossom trees in full bloom HOW UNREALISTIC A single high school girl caused the world to end I DONT THINK SO A viking taking over congress THIS STORY HAS JUMPED THE SHARK.
Oh, and then at the end Monokuma throws in the tasty tidbit that at the end of the reserve course uprising the whole 2,300 person student body committed suicide. EEP IM A GHOST.
Oh no, there was one who was spared. Ok so either Im the ultimate hope or some sort of general in Junkos army. I hope Im not the real traitor. Chiaki would be so mad at me.
Nah Im good. The followers would mutilate their bodies as part of their despair and I dont look too mutilated unless Im hiding some pretty gross things under my clothes. So I must be the Ultimate Hope guy.
Fuyuhiko says okay boomer and rides off on his skateboard. Hes not afraid of Junko because shes DEAD and whatever lame dopes are still trying to fulfill her agenda cant be as bad as her. Its not a bad point, honestly, if were dealing with the mutilated B team.
Next we get confirmation the Future Foundation is made up of the survivors from the first game and also that they were the ones that took us in. Hey, Chiaki, I like you and all, but maybe tell us this next time so we dont go the entire game thinking the Future Foundation are the bad guys.
Izuru Kamukura was the founder of the school! AHA! I knew I heard that name before. Now I dont remember the context of when it came up recently that prompted me to wonder if I heard the name before, though.
Ok going through the evidence, that is the name of the person listed as The Ultimate Hope. Uh. Huh. Okay so I am not quite clear what this means, and Hajime himself points out it is a strange contradiction. STRANGE.
Uhhhhhhh why is Hiyoko a babe and not a ten year old in this photograph? I mean, congrats on the glow up and all but WHAT IS GOING ON?
Kazuichis brilliant conclusion is Hiyoko had an older sister with the same first and last name. So we have a George Foreman type of situation here where her dad just named all his kids George after suffering numerous head injuries.
Monokuma shows up to say that is 100% definitely Hiyoko and she mustve had a growth spurt or something. We say that cant be possible and he does his pu hu HUUUU routine. Mm hmm k thanks.
You know, Im beginning to think this is some sort of computer simulation, right? It would explain why reality is glitching out like it is. It would explain why Nagito had Junkos hand in the prelude and why Hiyoko was a babe in the photo but then wasnt in our time together. And why the island was all changed. It just doesnt make sense any other way. The glitches are my biggest clue here, but I feel like everything else falls into place then a bit better.
We mightve been captured by the ultimate despair and forced into this computer simulation for reasons? I dont quite know why were in a computer simulation though is the only thing.
Another room another floating email. This one details the REMNANTS OF DESPAIR which is either a screamo band from the early 2000s or followers of Junko still active after her death. They talk about a leader possibly on par with Junko considering the tragedy hasnt just ended yet. I have a bad feeling that might be me. Im either that or the Ultimate Hope and Im not sure which.
The next floating email says they managed to get all 15 of us er I mean students that are TOTALLY not related. Good! They didnt get the Remnants of Despair though. Bad! You guys might want to get on that before they unleash the second most terrible, most awful, most tragic even in all of human history.
Also if the dummies from the first game tried to save the survivors only to accidentally get us trapped in a computer murder game because they let the remnants of despair infiltrate it I will be VERY CROSS with them. All my favorite characters are dead because of you!
OH SNAP. There is yet another floating email (the worst of all email types) that indicates Makoto (and his pals?) are for some reason siding with the Remnants of Despair. Why? I refuse to believe they flipped sides after the first game. Maybe Toko since she was already a murderer. But everyone else was good people. WHAT HAPPENED?
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
We find the synthetic neuroprogram thingy or something like that which details exactly how you could put a helmet on a person and transport them to a virtual world and replace their memories and theyd think it was the real world and it is obviously what happened to us. I KNEW IT I CALLED IT. I mean I called it like two minutes ago, but that still counts as a call, right?
It is so obvious even Hajime cant feign ignorance and goes AHHHHHHHHH! and begins talking about falling into despair. Yeah man sorry all your VR friends are dead but the good news is they might be ok IRL.
Or maybe they werent really friends and are just virtual programs? Theyre all facets of Hajimes personality or friends he used to know or something? Im just spitballing here so I might delete this if it sounds too stupid later.
Oh hey Alter Ego! Hiya old friend. Care to explain whats going on?
Alter Ego doesnt know whats going on. CURSE YOU ALTER EGO WE ARE NO LONGER FRIENDS.
Ok so Alter Ego knows some stuff. Chiaki and Monomi were observers that were supposed to help make this place like a paradise. But then a virus started showing up and doing bad things. They guess the virus was physically uploaded to which Hajime points out the only person who should have access to the computers at the facility would be one of the members of the Future Foundation.
Is it possibleone of the six survivors from the first game is a traitor and the other five left alive now are the other survivors in this simulation? Does that make any sense? No. But maybe? Nah never mind.
Alter Ego begins explaining the limitations of the virus and then Monokuma shows up to go er wait maybe I shouldnt let it do this and glitches out the game. Hey man maybe if you dont want the AI explaining how to beat you maybe you shouldnt have let me talk to it in the first place.
Now were talking to a different red mysterious outline but by the hair I can tell is it was Makoto. No other AI program would have hair like that.
He explains how the virus took over and hes SUPER DUPER sorry that every one is dying. Theyve been forced to watch it and dont know how to stop the virus. Thanks guy, super helpful talk.
Apparently they werent sure the program was even going to work even without the virus but needed to put us in it to save us. Yeah probably shouldve run some tests on lab rats to make sure it didnt become a murder simulator first, chief.
There is a way to defeat Monokuma! We need to enter the forced shut down sequence but to do that we need to have half the people and in order to do that we need to somehow get that number asfk:jaejdiaoc(circle)adfoie(plus). Hey can you repeat that last part I lost you at the circle.
Even Monokuma seems confused and doesnt know what happened. He asks and I LIE LIKE A LIAR LYING PANTS. Take that meanie. Maybe I really am the Ultimate Despair Pt. 2.
CLASS TRIAL TIME WOOO. Er I mean Graduation Exam time also woo.
There is this weird spiral of numbers and I sit there like an idiot for at least a minute because I thought it was a cutscene. Turns out Im supposed to walk. Oops.
While walking through the endless abyss I clean up my pets poop. Just because the world is a lie should my tamagachi have to live in filth.
Whoa so this tamagachi is a program within a program. I think were hitting Inception levels of nonsense now.
Ok so we can either Graduate or Repeat. Seems like a simple enough choice. I choose the one where Im not trapped in a murderous computer game, thanks.
Monokuma wont let us graduate unless we actually go through with the trial though. It invalidates Kazuichis great idea of just throwing up deuces and smashing graduate immediately.
Buthe has to let us graduate and its a formality? Im a bit confused about the rules here. Seems like the game is desperately trying to come up with a reason that we cant just hit graduate immediately so lets just go with that and move on.
Monokuma calls mini-Nekomaru a toy and Akane gets very mad. Yeah! How dare you insult her sentient vibrator that way!
Monokuma makes one last comment about killing Akane (as is tradition) and we go on to the final preparation segment. OH BOY ITS HAPPENING.
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Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
