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Suprak the Stud
02/18/21 1:11:29 AM
#454:


#35: Sato
Supporting Cast Ranking: 7/8
Ultimate Ability: No Clue
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Self Incriminater

The main reason this list is up to 40 characters is because of Sato actually. After checking the obvious supporting characters I needed to add, I was going through my head of if there was anyone else I wanted to talk about and Sato jumped out immediately. So to make things a bit more even (and since I didn't want to just do all the most important characters + Sato) I decided to go up to 40 and see who else I could find. So you have Sato to thank for the extra spots!

I wanted to talk about Sato is because Sato might be the single greatest moron in the history of these games. She isn't as annoying or off-putting or frustrating as some of the characters that placed in front of her, but there also isnt anything I particularly like about her, so she winds up all the way down here in 35th place, which is really impressive because some of the characters coming up that I don't like were around to annoy me much longer than Sato. She really makes the most out of her ten minutes of screen time though, doing just about everything wrong she can. Like, when I was doing my actual playthrough I had to cut like half the stuff I wanted to say about Sato being a moron because I realized I was just rambling and it probably wasnt going to be fun for anyone to read. Thats right around when the dread of oh no this game might not be as good as the first started to sink in for the first time, and I was mildly afraid of driving everyone away by complaining about something I knew they all liked. But now you suckers have already read all my important thoughts so I can give Sato the burial she rightly deserves.

I know what some of you are saying. "Who the hell is Sato?" Well for those of you who haven't played Danganronpa 2 recently or have photographic memories for random side characters that have like ten lines of dialogue, she is the moron who kills Fuyuhiko's sister because she is bullying Mahiru and winds up getting killed herself as part of the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case. At best, she is dull. You have to go around identifying who everyone is and everyone else has a distinctive personality from the game, so the one boring odd woman out has to be Sato. She doesnt have too many lines here, and the extent of her character is telling some really bad and obvious lies about how you cant go to the police because thats just what the killer (who is SUPER DEFINITELY not me guys) would want. I am annoyed how much time the chapter spent on this aside in the first place, and it doesnt help that Sato comes off about as bland as you can while youre stuck interacting with her.

I dont rank her as low as Natsumi because at least Sato doesnt seem like a completely terrible person. She is at least acting out of defense of Mahiru, which is a better character trait than being a sweaty pervert or an incel serial killer. But shes dumb. Mahiru makes it pretty clear she didnt ask for this and Sato is acting on her own accord her. Also, I know Natsumi is a terrible person, but the line from well Im going to bully you too now to choking someone out and murdering them by beating them with a swimsuit of gravel seems just a tad extreme. Like maybe get a teacher involved first before you jump right to murder. I want to protect my friend is noble. I will beat this girl to death seems slightly less so even if the victim was Natsumi (who, as you might have guessed from my rankings, also sucks). But even for as bad as Natsumi is, this sort of thing is horrifying and you cant just go around murdering people. Thats kinda the point of these games. Well, unless youre Toko I guess. Then you can murder people and no one really cares so long as you arent actively murdering someone at this very moment.

Her methodology also makes no sense, and I hold this jerk directly responsible for what is probably the worst piece of evidence in either game. Shes lucky there are other characters I truly despise in these games, because the individual responsible for the swimsuit full of gravel clue deserves the very bottom spot on this list for that alone. Even ignoring that though, I have no clue what she was doing here. Why did she have to break the vase in the next room over if she already broke the window? Why did her friends hear the vase break but not the window when it was literally one room over? Why even beat her to death when strangulation was working just fine and seems like a pervert-y kind of way to kill someone in the first place? Why even tip over the fishtank? WHY ANYTHING? WHAT IS GOING ON? SATO NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE. And then I have to spend half of the trial solving this? No, fuck you Sato. I dont want to solve your shitty crime. All I need to know is the motive here, the rest is utterly pointless. The second chapter here is not my favorite, and I place a large part of that blame on Natsumi and Sato being awful.

But really what gets Sato placed all the way down here is the way she winds up getting caught. Her whole plan is like eight different kinds of stupid, but not "placing incriminating evidence within five feet of the brother of the girl you murdered, who also happens to be the head of the yakuza" stupid. The scene is so tremendously stupid it is legitimately funny. She takes the photo from Mahiru, walks over to a completely empty trash pile, carefully places it on the ground, and walks away. Fuyuhiko (who had to be within eyesight of her) walks up and just grabs the picture. I get that she's still in high school, but you at least have to be not so dumb that you just put damning evidence where people who might want vengeance can see it. Maybe this will get elaborated on a bit more in Danganronpa 3 so Sato doesn't look like the absolute dumbest person in the whole wide world, but at least based on this game alone Sato comes off as a complete buffoon. And you can argue that Monokuma was simplifying things for the sake of his game or it left out details, but the general point of her essentially handing over evidence that she murdered a member of a yakuzas family seems pretty undeniable.

I would also argue that Sato is directly responsible for at least Mahiru, Fuyuhiko, and Peko all getting swept into Ultimate Despair. I don't know exactly how it will be detailed in the anime, but when I was trying to figure out why some of these characters got recruited, I saw a pretty direct line for those three from the events in the Twilight Syndrome game. It is actually interesting how much overall impact this completely minor character had on the overall plot of the series if that is the case, and a huge chunk of Ultimate Despair likely gets recruited thanks to Sato. All Sato had to do was not be driven to murder as a 15 year old girl and it wouldn't have ruined the lives of like five different people. Congrats, Sato! That's some extraordinary failure for someone your age. Maybe your ultimate ability was ultimate fuck up everything for everyone always.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/18/21 1:23:35 AM
#455:


Literally nobody in history has ever written this much about Sato.

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xp1337
02/18/21 1:35:58 AM
#456:


you could have given me 100 guesses and i wouldn't have gotten sato

you could have even told me the name started with an s and i wouldn't have gotten it

you could have given me the entire list of characters you were using and i still would not have gotten sato

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MysteriousStan
02/18/21 10:01:45 AM
#457:


I thought this was a writeup for another character at first and was very confused lol
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02/18/21 10:14:32 AM
#458:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Literally nobody in history has ever written this much about Sato.
Pretty sure this includes the devs and designers combined
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SeabassDebeste
02/18/21 10:46:05 AM
#459:


hifumi gross

the flashback characters are complete non-entities to me. i thought this topic was dead for a second reading sato's writeup, getting deja vu to the natsumi writeup that i also glazed over!
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Suprak the Stud
02/18/21 11:04:10 AM
#460:


This is a great tragedy because it means that Natsumi and Sato do not get the hate they rightfully deserve.

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Anagaram
02/18/21 11:10:48 AM
#461:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I hold this jerk directly responsible for what is probably the worst piece of evidence in either game.
BONE

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xp1337
02/18/21 11:21:03 AM
#462:


meat on the bone wishes it could compete in the same league as the swimsuit full of gravel in the sport of terrible evidence

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Suprak the Stud
02/18/21 11:25:45 AM
#463:


Yeah meat on the bone is to swimsuit full of gravel as a leaky pipe is to your house getting hit by a tidal wave.

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Anagram
02/18/21 12:07:28 PM
#464:


This isnt technically evidence, but I also like this one:

What shape is it with eight sides...?

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Suprak the Stud
02/18/21 12:12:59 PM
#465:


That one did make me laugh out loud.

This one is also probably just me, but I had taken a little break between the deadly life of chapter 3 and the trial. And then the trial opens up with "who is girl A" "who is girl B" without giving me any sort of context. Like...hey, game. Give me a quick flashback or something. You love those.

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Hbthebattle
02/18/21 12:23:26 PM
#466:


Anagram posted...
This isnt technically evidence, but I also like this one:

What shape is it with eight sides...?
This is the fault of the translation. In Japanese, The Octagon is just octagon in english, so the question has more merit

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UshiromiyaEva
02/18/21 12:38:01 PM
#467:


Hbthebattle posted...
This is the fault of the translation. In Japanese, The Octagon is just octagon in english, so the question has more merit

11037 all over again.

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02/18/21 1:17:05 PM
#468:


11307 is legitimately my favorite piece of evidence in any of these mystery games because of how stupid it is.

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Raka_Putra
02/18/21 1:26:11 PM
#469:


What the heck is a 'Sato'

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Sheep007
02/18/21 1:37:25 PM
#470:


It's a type of simple carbohydrate

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Earthshaker
02/18/21 3:09:55 PM
#471:


Sato was the girl in the Trial 2 arcade game who beat the other girl, Natsuki, to death in the arcade game.


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Anagaram
02/18/21 3:19:14 PM
#472:


I can't wait for this list after Suprak finishes UDG, DR3, and V3.

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Suprak the Stud
02/18/21 6:51:17 PM
#473:


And with that we move on to a new, slightly better tier! While the last tier was characters I actively hate and will talk shit about every chance I get, this next tier is just characters I don't particularly like. So we are now entering the Drinking Almond Milk When I Thought It Was Supposed To Be Regular Milk Tier (a.k.a. the "I don't particularly like these characters but I could at least understand how some other people might" tier). There is usually at least some things I like about these characters, but honestly they tend to get lost under the title wave of annoying nonsense they make you deal with. When I was ranking these characters, I was tempted to slot them into the Scrappy Doo Tier but then I would think "well they had that one part I liked" or "that scene was interesting" so there is some redeeming value here.

I anticipate getting yelled at a couple of times for these rankings, but WHATEVER MAN.

M&M In A Bowl Full Of Skittles Tier:
40) Toko Fukawa
39) Ultimate Imposter

Scrappy Doo Tier:
38) Teruteru Hanamura
37) Natsumi Kuzuryu
36) Hifumi Yamada
35) Sato

Drinking Almond Milk When I Thought It Was Supposed To Be Regular Milk Tier:
34) I will not be getting yelled at for this character ranking, though, except maybe that I ranked them too highly.

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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 2:38:43 AM
#474:


#34: Monomi
Supporting Cast Ranking: 6/8
Ultimate Ability: She doesnt have one
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Walmart Brand Knockoff

I dont know what the most disappointed I was by some revelation in the Dangaonronpa series, but I know a top ten moment for me was when I realized Monomi was an all game character and not a prologue only character. When Monokuma showed up my first thought was oh no killing are about to start followed immediately after by oh well at least I wont have to deal with Monomi anymore. But, oh how wrong I was. OH THE DESPAIR. Little did long ago Suprak know that Monomi was basically going to be around for the entire game, being every bit as annoying and cloying as she was in the opening. Junko truly is a master of despair since she knew keeping Monomi around would make things truly unbearable.

The easiest way to describe Monomi is intentionally annoying. The closest comparison I could think for Monomi was Claptrap from the Borderlands games. She is a character that you can tell almost instantly is meant to annoy you and boy does she succeed on that end. Literally my first thought after hearing her voice for the very first time was oh Im going to haaaaaaate this character. So the game definitely gets the intentionally annoying part right, if nothing else. But heres the thing about inetnionally annoying characters: theyre still annoying. The fact I am supposed to be annoyed by Monomi doesnt make the annoyance Im feeling any more bearable. If a restaurant intentionally gave me food poisoning, I wouldnt later be vomiting everywhere and thinking well they certainly did a good job giving me food poisoning, if nothing else!

For the early portions of the game, I think my general sentiment towards Monomi was I dont get what the hell this weird rabbit is doing here, and Im annoyed. But then when I finally go to the end of the game, and understood what Monomi was and what her role was in the school, that sentiment changed completed to I get what that weird rabbit was doing here, but Im still annoyed. It is like she was specifically created to be annoying, and I have no clue why Makoto and friends made the guidance role to be as obnoxious as possible. If you guys were trying to make the characters all form good happy memories, one thing you shouldnt include is an annoying animatronic rabbit that wants to talk about love love and spout these weird cloying catchphrases that look like they belong on the most boring 30-year-old moms Instagram account.

Her interaction with Monokuma is alsostrange. She plays this weird comic relief slapstick sort of character, which is bizarre in retrospect because you would think she should be absolutely mortified that all these students shes supposed to be protecting are getting murdered in front of her. The tone between her and Monokuma stands out to me as being especially weird in a game full of weird things. They kept doing these weird little comedy bits in between the murders, and the biggest issue is none of them were really funny. I love the fact that Danganronpa as a whole is weird as hell. Thats one of the primary draws. But a lot of times it just felt like they didnt quite know what to do with Monomi, so shes stuck trying to force some humor in situations that dont really work. Danganronpa does a great job balancing comedy with dark subject matter, but it almost always feels organic with the scene and fits into the bizarre and wonderful style of the game. With Monomi though, things always felt forced to me. Like the writers were like oh shoot we need to get Monomi to say something. She was integral because of the overarching story, but they couldnt work her into dialogue in a good way without tipping their hand too much, so instead were stuck with all the worst comedy bits crammed into one character.

There are a couple of things about Monomi I did like. First, I liked how everyone else hated her. That was cathartic to me. Shed show up on screen and Id be like oh fuck its Monomi and all of a sudden Akane or someone would be like oh fuck its Monomi and Id feel a bit closer to the main cast because of it. Also, her finally standing up to Monokuma at the very end was pretty cool. She does it like five chapters too late and spends most of the game pathetically whining about how she cant help and paying the Laurel to Monokumas Hardy. Shes just kind of there most of the game, so when she shows up and actually starts trying it is too little too late, but it is at least better than too little too never.There does seem to be some genuine concern for the students here, which is nice to see, but it wouldve been better if it was packaged into a character I didnt hate. Oh, and her finale against giant AI Junko was pretty cool and was one of the better animated sequences in either game. So there are little things here and there about Monomi I dont hate, but overall she is a character I wish I could forget.

I think what best sums up my thoughts on Monomi is that I was only really tangentially aware that she died. Like, I saw her in Chiakis execution and knew she was getting blown up and gobbled up and smushed, but the fact she wasnt going to be really around any longer wasnt something that fully processed to me. Chiakis untimely death was such a fucking gut punch that Monomis death was completely overshadowed to such a point that I didnt even really care that she was dead. It is basically like if you go to the best steakhouse in town and order a filet mignon and also a stick of slightly chewed celery. One of those things is so much better than the other that the other might as well not even exist. Ive experienced a lot of feelings to deaths in this series. Sadness and relief and joy and disgust and of course DESPAIR. Monomis was the only one where I felt absolutely nothing at all. It was barely even a blip on my radar, eclipsed by something so much greater. And in the end, that really is a fitting ending for Monomi. She dies like she lived: essentially ignored so you can focus on the much more interesting and important stuff going on around her.

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bwburke94
02/19/21 2:39:54 AM
#475:


Monomi is a weird character to rank because she doesn't fit well with the game's aesthetic.

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SeabassDebeste
02/19/21 7:37:08 AM
#476:


Suprak the Stud posted...
But heres the thing about inetnionally annoying characters: theyre still annoying.

pretty much, yeah
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Suprak the Stud
02/19/21 8:47:53 PM
#477:


Up next: a character who would've been up an entire tier if they died when I thought they were going to die

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02/19/21 8:57:00 PM
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Raka_Putra
02/19/21 9:57:22 PM
#479:


Sounds sounds right.
Maybe Nekomaru.

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Anagaram
02/19/21 10:25:29 PM
#480:


It's not going to be Nekomaru. It's almost certainly Kazuichi.

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MrSmartGuy
02/19/21 11:17:34 PM
#481:


Yeah, definitely Kazuichi, which makes me sad.

Unless it's Akane, which would be super low, but...... I wouldn't be all that against it tbqh

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Anagaram
02/19/21 11:22:08 PM
#482:


Akane is the single survivor I am most confused by. Practically anyone else would have been a better choice. She does literally nothing of importance the entire game that couldn't have been done by someone else. I think her most important contribution is getting Nekomaru injured so that he has to become a robot Gundham can kill?

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MysteriousStan
02/19/21 11:26:56 PM
#483:


Anagaram posted...
Akane is the single survivor I am most confused by.
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bwburke94
02/20/21 12:09:51 AM
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DR2's weakness is that it takes out three of the better characters in succession while leaving the worse ones alive.

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Suprak the Stud
02/20/21 2:12:53 AM
#485:


#33: Fuyuhiko Kuzuyru
Main Cast (Male) Ranking: 13/16
Survivor Ranking: 10/11
Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Yakuza
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Boss Baby Stunt Double

This probably isnt all that much of a surprise if you were reading along. I was going through my thoughts earlier today and I had forgotten I had given Fuyuhiko his own tier for most of the game in terms of who I wanted to see die. What I do remember, however, was every chapter dreading who was going to die and hoping it was just Fuyuhiko so I wasnt going to be emotionally traumatized. This is the second straight game where the character I was hoping would die made it all the way to the end, so I may just be cursed. When I play V3, I will be sure to pretend that whoever my least favorite character is actually my favorite as that seems to be the only hope I have for killing off all the bad characters I secretly want dead.

Fuyuhiko has two distinct personalities here, one before and after Peko dies. If we were dealing solely with the one before Peko dies, he would probably be a bottom three character for me. Fuyuhiko comes off as a fake tough guy, a petulant child trying his hardest to act like an adult and failing. He is the embodiment of that scene in The Lonely Islands Threw It On The Ground song where Andy Samberg is screaming IM AN ADULT and it is somehow even less believable here. It is kind of strange that he is the Ultimate Yakuza, because he comes off as one of the least threatening characters in either game. A big talker, sure, but he never comes across as doing anything tough. There is a reason to be intimidated by Byakuya or Nagito or Mondo or Sakura, but Fuyuhiko never gives us a similar reason. He never seems to do anything tough. He is the Ultimate Yakuza and all he does is murder one high school girl before the game starts and try to murder another while the game is going on. He doesnt come across as a threat early on in the game. He comes across as a joke. An annoyance. A seven year old who googled murder and now is trying to convince you that hes totally going to do it.

Fuyuhiko isnt a fun threat like Nagito is, because you never really think Fuyuhiko is going to do anything. He just comes off as obnoxious and every time he was saying something I was wishing he would be the next one to die so I wouldnt have to deal with his bullshit any longer. Oh yeah Im TOTALLY gonna murder comes off the same way as that one kid from your high school who TOTALLY had sex with his Canadian girlfriend who goes to a different school. It felt like some middle schooler was trying to bully me now, and he has neither the presence of design or personality to feel like a genuine threat. He is instead just a yippy dog where his bark is much bigger than his bite, so much so that the actual threat to him is the full-time bodyguard that follows him around at all times and is like ten times more badass than he can ever hope to be.

Really what winds up saving him from the lower tiers is one phenomenal scene, and that is the ending of case two and Pekos execution. The whole ending to that scene I thought was very powerful, and I loved the back and forth between Peko and him where they are both struggling to get out their emotions as Pekos time runs up. I loved Fuyuhiko running to be by Pekos side, trying to do anything he can to save her. The ending was great and sad and brutal, and it is actually pretty amazing all things considered because the game was making me feel things for a character who up to that point I absolutely despised. And it isnt as if his character doesnt have the potential to be interesting, and I at least understood the design here. You can very clearly see he has an inferiority complex because of his size and how he looks and is trying to overcompensate for these things as much as he can. But, again, knowing this didnt make my time with him early on in the game any more enjoyable. Every single thing he said annoyed me up until the end of chapter 2 and I was genuinely excited for a moment when I thought he wound up accidentally executed.

There were actually two times where I thought Fuyuhiko might die, and I think I wouldve liked his character arc a lot more if he did die at either of these spots. First was the chapter 2 execution where he gets swept up with Peko. He does technically harbor some of the guilt here for the murder as Peko only kills Mahiru to save Fuyuhiko from himself. And he sets the entire thing up and is seconds away from doing it himself, so I wouldnt have been mad if him running headfirst into the fight got him killed as well. It really wouldve wrapped up Peko and Fuyuhiko almost perfectly, especially considering the emotional scene we had previously. I actually would have really like that and a capstone for that case. Like, make two small changes there and that ending is even better. Remove the weirdness with Monokuma pulling Pekos strings and just have Fuyuhiko die. Then they finally confess their feelings for each other, fight to get to each other, only for Peko to accidentally kill Fuyuhiko in the chaos. Then, overcome by what shes done, she allows herself to be killed by the Monokuma soldiers. SO MUCH DESPAIR.

Alternatively, he was also my secondary suspect for case 3, which I thought wouldve been interesting as well. If he had orchestrated injuring himself to get into the hospital at first to scope things out and then volunteered later to guard the hospital just so he could pull off his murder, I think that wouldve been a much more satisfying conclusion to his character than the whimper he sort of went out with. He clearly loves Peko and she was the one thing tying him to this place. If they needed someone to go crazy and remember stuff, I wish it wouldve been Fuyuhiko as I think that wouldve been a much more fun twist to that case than what we actually got. That wouldve been a much more fun misdirect than Mikan gets killed because Monokuma rolled the who goes crazy wheel and thats who it landed on.

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Suprak the Stud
02/20/21 2:13:02 AM
#486:


Unfortunately, we dont get either of those things. We dont even get a fun resolution to his tension with Hiyoko because she dies too soon. Thats another possible interesting arc that winds up getting cut short, and what Fuyuhiko is left to do is a lot less interesting than what I thought might happen. He justsort of exists. There is a redemption arc here on the back end of things, sure, but it is ruined by a couple of factors. First, as I mentioned above, I absolutely hated his character for the first two chapters, and he had reached such a nadir I wasnt really willing to give him a second chance. He had spent the first two chapters being absolutely miserable, so why would I possibly root for him to get redemption? All things considered, he was a terrible human being. Hes the leader of a violent crime gang and responsible for the murder of a high school girl before the game starts. And then he tries to murder a second and is only saved from doing so by Peko. His defense of just wanting to talk to Mahiru is complete bullshit, by the way. He drugs Hiyoko and orchestrates the two of them coming at different times and he hides the baseball bat on the scene. Him straight up lying to us with a jeez guys I just wanted to talk is a lie and Im not even sure he believes it himself. He tries to kill Mahiru in that scene because she basically tells him murder is bad and he shouldnt have done it, and he responds by trying to commit a second murder. He doesnt deserve a chance at redemption because he is seconds away for killing Mahiru for an incredibly dumb reason. Then when hes not plotting to actively kill someone, he snarls at us and is just generally a shitty human being long enough for us to form a lasting impression of him. And, after all of this, Im supposed to root for him? Im supposed to be ok with him after everything hes done and after the writers essentially spent two chapters goading me into hating him? No, no I dont think I will. Thanks for the offer, game, but Ill continue disliking him if its all the same to you.

And, more importantly, I dont think the back end of his character arc is all that interesting. Peko gives him a second chance at life, but the game doesnt really have him do anything with it. Sure, hes nicer to everyone now, but without his little dog snarl hes just sort of boring. I wanted him to actually do something or make some grand stand or contribute in some major way, but the grand sum of his character development seems to be he isnt a complete asshole to everyone every chance he gets. Like, he isnt some super altruistic amazing individual. Hes not the heart of the group. Hes not inspiring people to greater things. Hes literally just not threatening to kill everyone because hes SUCH a big tough super strong guy seriously guys I swear. It is the absolute least you can do as a human, and Im not really all that interested in him behaving sort of like what a halfway decent individual acts like. It would be like if someone spent the first two chapters kicking puppies, and then at the start of chapter three resolved to stop kicking puppies. Great. But Im going to be more attached to the non-awful people that werent kicking puppies in the first place.

Also, just throwing this out there, hes kind of shitty towards Peko all things considered. I know a lot of this has to do with his responsibilities of being a yakuza, but Peko is so beaten down by her role that she has a terrible understanding of herself as an individual. She sees herself as nothing more than a tool for Fuyuhiko to use as he sees fit, and he is at least partially to blame for that. I know he struggles to get emotions out, but it is very clear that up until the very end here, Peko barely views herself as a human. Fuyuhiko is trying to get her to understand, but he obviously doesnt do enough and it winds up getting her killed because of it. This is someone that is 100% devoted to him in every possible way and loves him unconditionally and he cant even manage to blurt out hey youre important to me before it is too late? So many things here couldve been avoided if Fuyuhiko could just be open with his feelings. I know he feels regret for it and he is at least trying to get Peko to understand this by the end, but he is also directly responsible for both Mahirus and Pekos death, and his lackluster face turn at the end of the game isnt enough to make me forget that.

So Fuyuhiko has a lot of stuff working against him, in my eyes. He has one amazing scene and then a whole game worth of content Im honestly not that interested in. His final farewell honoring Peko at the end of the game was nice too, I suppose, but beyond that and the end of the second case, I really wasnt interested in his character. He spends too long being awful, and then his turnaround at the end isnt enough to atone for all the stuff I had to put up with earlier. He isnt funny or fun or interesting or even all that remarkable. Hes kind of dull, honestly, and in a game full of characters with big, unique personalities, Fuyuhiko post-trauma is just kind of a guy. I hate him prior to the ending of chapter 2 and was completely indifferent about him afterwards. He has a bad personality and then he basically has no personality. It was so dull, that by the end of the game I kind of wished he kept his heel personality. Sure, I didnt like it, but at least I felt something for it. By the time he saunters across the finish line, all I really felt for him was apathy.

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xp1337
02/20/21 2:17:49 AM
#487:


That's a pretty controversial placement. Mind you, I largely agree with you - though Fuyuhiko would still place a fair bit higher if I tried to make a list because truth be told if I isolated the characters I'd be dunking on them a lot I think. He definitely improves after the fallout from 2-2 but I mean, he was still way below Nagito, Chiaki, Hajime, Gundham, and Sonia (and Ibuki for the brief period they overlap) for me so it's like "well you're still a bottom half character so way to go i guess"

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Suprak the Stud
02/20/21 2:22:44 AM
#488:


I think it is a testament to the writing in this game that all the ranking lists I've seen are so markedly different. Like no two people are going to relate to the characters in the same way. Things that stuck out to me might not stick out to other people, and I like that about the game. But yeah, I've seen a lot of rankings recently and I would say most of the characters I place in this tier are probably controversial. I seem to hold some overlapping beliefs with the Danganronpa fan community at large, but I was also shocked that some of the characters I did not like are some of the favorites and some of the ones I like were actually considered the bottom tier by most people.

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Anagaram
02/20/21 2:23:20 AM
#489:


Wow that's a Fuyuhiko placement alright

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UshiromiyaEva
02/20/21 2:25:01 AM
#490:


Fuyuhiko was my favorite male character in the franchise until V3 came out and he fell to 2nd, landing him in #4 overall <_<

To be fair I am a HUGE sucker for the "this character sucks hard but then completely does a 180" trope. For example, a certain Tales of the Abyss character that anyone who has played that game will know.

But yeah Baby Gangsta is my fuckin' BOI. I knew a low ranking for him from you was coming though, based on writeups.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/20/21 2:32:00 AM
#491:


My rankings with all the V3 characters and the UDG lead removed, looking forward to any other hard swings, lol.

1. ***
2.Ibuki Mioda
3.***
4.Fuyuhiko Kuzuriyu
5.Gundham Tanaka
6.Chiaki Nanami
7.Nagito Komaeda
8.Junko Enoshima
9.***
10.***
11.Hajime Hinata
12.Sonia Nevermind
13.***
14.***
15.Sakura Ogami
16.***
17.***

18.***
19.Mahiru Koizumi
20.Kazuichi Souda
21.Aoi Ashahina
22.Mikan Tsumiki
23.Celestia Ludenberg
24.Peko Pekoyama
25.***
26.Kyoko Kirigiri
27.***
28.***
29.***
30.Toko Fukawa
31.Nekomaru Nidai
32.***
33.***
34.Byakuya Twogami
35.Sayaka Maizono
36.Makoto Naeigi
37.***
38.***
39.Chihiro Fujisaki

40.Akane Owari
41.Hiyoko Saionji
42.Mondo Owada
43.Kiyotaka Ishimaru
44.Leon Kuwata
45.Yasuhiro Hagakure
46.Hifumi Yamada
47.Teruteru Hanaamura
48. Byakuya Togami

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xp1337
02/20/21 3:12:20 AM
#492:


I'm not thinking about this too hard but I'd guess my DR1/DR2/V3 ranking would look something like this (threw in Monokuma and Monomi to get a nice, even 50):

Legit great character tier
1. Nagito
2. Gundham
3. ---
4. ---
5. ---
6. ---
7. Hajime

Still very good tier, might have some minor quibbles with them
8. Sonia
9. Junko
10. Chiaki
11. Sayaka
12. Mukuro
13. ---
14. ---
15. Byakuya
16. Mahiru
17. Ibuki
18. ---

Nothing particularly wrong with these guys, but we're on to the next tier by now
19. Chihiro
20. Monokuma
21. ---
22. ---
23. Kyoko
24. Aoi
25. Sakura
26. ---
27. Celestia
28. ---
29. Hiyoko
30. Fuyuhiko
31. Makoto
32. ---

Whether the game misuses or underutilized their potential or I just don't like them I got beefs with this group
33. ---
34. Toko
35. ---
36. Kazuichi
37. Peko
38. Mikan
39. Yasuhiro
40. Imposter
41. Nekomaru
42. Leon

Game would be better without them
43. ---
44. Mondo
45. ---
46. Kiyotaka

A lot better
47. Akane

A loooooot better
48. Monomi
49. Hifumi
50. Teruteru

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Suprak the Stud
02/22/21 4:57:32 PM
#493:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79310930

Since I'm running out of space here!

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Hbthebattle
02/23/21 12:37:35 AM
#494:


yeah fuyuhiko is generally one of the most popular characters from his game so this is a pretty blazing take lol

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Blaziken
02/23/21 12:50:04 AM
#495:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Fuyuhiko isnt a fun threat like Nagito is, because you never really think Fuyuhiko is going to do anything.

Nagito is in NO way fun. His talent is Super High School Level Gary Stu.

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