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Me the morning after drinking 12 beers.

It was t-shirt and shorts weather (69 degrees) on the weekend and it was below zero this morning.

This type of shit has always seemed ridiculous to me.

TC. Since the day you were born the US has had the ability to exterminate nearly all of the population of North Korea overnight and has had targetting solutions programmed in to do exactly that. Why would some drones scare Kim Jong Un more than the sword hanging over his entire country?

JustMonika posted...

Atralis posted...

You are talking about altering the constitution

Oh no! Not altering the constitution!

You have to realize that I am a 21rst century American man JustMonika. I am not especially religious and I am tolerant of most religions (including all the major ones, islam, hinduism, christianity, judaism, budhism), people, sexual orientations, but I am a 21rst century man that grew up American. I swore an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign an domestic. There are tens of millions of us that swore the same oath and if there comes a day when you stand as a threat we will fall upon you like wolves and tear you to pieces.

This isn't me threatening I just get the fact that for kids that are from families the immigrated recently or maybe from families where their parents and grandparents were too disabled to serve they may not realize. There are literally tens of millions of people like me.

We have all been indoctrinated to kill you. Its true. And we will pull that trigger. It isn't even something we chose. Its generations of programming. You just have to realize the consequences. I don't even own a gun right now but if you tried to ban guns I would get one and I would start using it and I do know how to use it.

More of them died than lived for a few tens of thousands years is the basic answer.

Wars probably happened but you have to realize that the period between when humans encountered them for the first time and their end was many times longer than the recorded history of humanity. It wasn't one big war. It wasn't something that the great great great great great great great grandsons of the first humans that encountered them would have remembered when they finally went extinct. They died out because we, as a species were better at surviving.

BLAKUboy posted...

You'd think a ? Block would have better bait.

How is this bait. Everyone dies. Everyone in this topic, everyone on this board, everyone in this world. You are talking about altering the constitution to try and combat something rare enough that it will not significantly alter the life expectancy of anyone.

What is the point of freaking out about events that have a low likely-hood of ever occurring. I'll give you an anectdote. I was on a base in Iraq and my bunkmate was pissing his pants because mortar alarms were sounding. I explained it to him. Are you afraid of being hit by a semi truck driver swerving into you from opposite lane on the highway and smooshing you in your car or a vehicle jumping the curb and smooshing you while you walk on a sidewalk? Are you afraid of getting terminal cancer? Are you afraid of a bolt of lightning striking you in every storm? Are you afraid a meteor will strike the earth and kill us all at any given moment?

If you think about the possible things that could kill any given person whether it be mortars landing directly on your face or a mass shooting killing you are basically the equivalent of pissing your pants at the idea of walking outside in a storm.

Man up.

Oakland510_ posted...

I don't know why the fuck people use UberEats or ANY delivery service, even the business' own delivery service. People could spit or put boogers in the food.

So you just harvest shrooms and shit from your backyard to eat I presume?

These types of mass shootings have killed hundreds of people out of the hundreds of millions of us that have been alive during the time period in which they happened and 100% of are going to die anyways of something so conceivably we could do absolutely nothing and the life expectancy would barely change at all for the general population.

Or we could freak the fuck out and weep and shriek and act like the sky is falling down.

I was in college from age 25 to 29.

I was/am a bit socially awkward. I had an alright time in college, made some friends, got a high GPA, but I do wish I had gotten out and partied a bit more while I was there. You have to put yourself out there. I know it sounds lame but join some clubs or something.

When I was in college I hung out on campus a lot in an area that was specifically for Computer Science students on campus (went to CU boulder so it was a very large program). I made friends there including group mates from projects but when I left school I would basically just head straight back to my apartment and go into a comfort zone. I went out drinking a few times with friends but it was a once or twice a semester thing. I drove back home a lot of weekends which didn't help much for making me a social animal.

I had a good time in college and I got a good degree but I do feel like I missed out on some of the social elements.

Good.

In units that were getting ready to deploy there is always a period where the unit has to transfer out the non-deployable people (mostly people on medical profiles) while transferring people in from other units to hit the magic number of people that they need to actually be at full strength for their deployment.

The issue that Mattis is trying to address is that once these non-deployable people get transferred out they land in units where their non-deployable status may go unnoticed. And then when that unit finally ends up deploying they suddenly realize they have a lot of non-deployable people they need to lose immediately so they transfer out the people who can't deploy including some of the same guys and girls that missed the last deployment.

It may seem heartless to kick a guy or girl out of a unit just because they are non-deployable but just keeping them on for sentimental reasons is a massive waste of resources.

If a job can be done by someone that is non-deployable then it really should be done by a civilian in the first place.

MacDaMurderer posted...

scorpion41 posted...

And people growing ignorant of firearms only makes the problem worse, not better.

Are they ignorant of firearms now? Because it's getting worse everyday.

Gun crime has more than halved since the 90s.

AssultTank posted...

Atralis posted...

People like you would defend the British in the opium wars. Well they just wanted to sell a product to willing buyers right? It may rot their brains and turn them into wasted husks of humanity that waste their savings and earnings steal from their friends family and community and whore themselves to get their next high but that is no reason to ban the trade.

In that situation, the British were the equivalent of the Mexican Cartels, so... No I wouldn't.

Do you personally know any heroin addicts? It turns good people into subhuman criminals that degenerate over time until they are basically zombies just leeching off everyone around them. They think nothing of stealing from strangers or even their own family to get their next high and they reach the point where they are incapable of holding a job because they are too fucked up most of the time to do anything.

AssultTank posted...

Atralis posted...

Why should we kill our own people from overdoses to stop being from dying in mexicos drug war? They don't even have the death penalty in Mexico and they pretend like they are fighting a war against their narcotics industry. They are weak.

If you legalize it, you can regulate to improve quality/consistency and treat the addictions more easily.

Lots of overdoses are caused by the user getting a drug that is more pure than they're used to, and using the same dosage that they were using before.

The other thing is that addicts won't get help because they know they'll be targeted by the law for doing so. If you pay attention, safe drug injection sites actually help to reduce overdosing and often lead to users being able to get help fighting the addiction.

People like you would defend the British in the opium wars. Well they just wanted to sell a product to willing buyers right? It may rot their brains and turn them into wasted husks of humanity that waste their savings and earnings steal from their friends family and community and whore themselves to get their next high but that is no reason to ban the trade. Right?

Or are you embracing the brave new world future where we are all fucked up out of our minds on happy pills all the time and the weird people are the ones that thing that there is something wrong with it?

AssultTank posted...

America needs to legalize cocaine to end the Mexican Drug War...

Seriously, most of the cartel funds come from selling illegally in the USA...

Why should we kill our own people from overdoses to stop being from dying in mexicos drug war? They don't even have the death penalty in Mexico and they pretend like they are fighting a war against their narcotics industry. They are weak.

Get a new dog if you feel this way.....

This isn't really a right or left issue guys.

Americans on EBT are fatter than Americans that aren't which makes them some of the fattest human beings to ever have existed in the entire history of the species. That is a fact that people on the left and right acknowledge.

So what do you do about it?

The Obama administration's talking points were that we need to make sure everyone has access to a wider range of foods than what you would find at your local 7/11. Basically access to fresh fruits and veggies. But like the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. The evidence is iffy on whether or not just offering people fresh food as an option will do anything to reduce the obesity level so the other front to attack on is education.

Kids that are taught to pay attention to calorie counts on the food they eat and basically conditioned to eat non-junk food foods will be more likely to continue to care when the grow up.

This "food stamps only work for these foods" approach is a bit heavy handed. I think a compromise would be rolling it out in a few areas and studying whether or not it makes the people forced into a diet healthier.

You should quit now if this is hard for you. Just being honest.

Brownish.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Atralis posted...

Is that before or after taxes?

My 80k salary a year turns into me making more like 4200 a month after taxes which really has changed how I think about stuff like this.

Just curious - were you one of the people who I used to argue with about taxes? It's always delicious to watch socialists turn into adults once they get their paycheck and see how much of it went to Uncle Sam and the state government.

I was never a socialist I just didn't make enough taxable income to really pay much in taxes.

Is that before or after taxes?

My 80k salary a year turns into me making more like 4200 a month after taxes which really has changed how I think about stuff like this.

"34"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_German_border

You have to understand two key things.

1. The actual border between West and East Germany had landmines, barbed wire, and was basically treated as a militarized border between two competing superpowers.

2. Berlin was deep inside East Germany- At the end of WW2 the allied powers in Europe (US, UK, France, USSR (Russia)) divided up Europe, Germany, and Berlin because it was the capital. The tricky thing was that Berlin was pretty far inside the Soviet zone but it was still divided up.

As long as Berlin didn't have a wall people could literally just walk to the capitalist west from the communist east. The US was powerful enough to tell the East Germans and Soviets to eat shit if they tried to check the papers of people going in and out of West Berlin once they got there and there was a red line established basically creating this weird western zone inside of East Germany.

So the Commies built a wall through the center of the city, surrounded it with barbed wire and shot anyone trying to cross over.

I liked it.

Is this bumper sticker literally suggesting we feed pedophiles to pitbulls. That seems a bit medieval... I mean we could paralyze pedos my snapping their spinal cord at the neck and the feed them to sheltered pit bulls but God that would be brutal beyond what society would tolerate.

They aren't sending their best

butthole666 posted...

ApherosyLove posted...

What don't you like about it?

Gameplay is barebones and unrewarding with shooting mechanics that feel like an early 2000s title, level design is incredibly linear and formulaic, and completely lacking in the attention to detail that makes linear game design truly shine. A borderline genocidal ethno-state is also an EXTREMELY poor setting for the "both sides are just as bad!" narrative, and the entire plot is a hamfisted slapped together mess.

I liked it. I highly recommend playing on hard difficulty. Forces you to actually use your powers to get an edge while normal just feels like straight up Call of Duty because you can run forward and catch bullets with your face and still achieve victory. As for the plot? The setting was based on US history and race was a huge thing around the turn of the century (19th to 20th) in America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadir_of_American_race_relations

As for "same thing both sides" ....... the early 20th century was absurdly brutal. The revolution you see in infinite reminded me of the Russian Revolution. Millions died. The royal family, men women and children, along with countless other were murdered and the government that replaced the old Russian Empire was as bad or worse than the reds that won the war.

TheGrindery posted...

People act like coffee isn't a drug. Tag along with a friend to a narcotics anonymous meeting. There are usually 3 coffee pots there. As someone that has never had an actual addiction, I was full of questions. They didn't like them.

"Okay you guys keep saying you don't believe in substituting one drug for another but....what are you supposed to call it when ONE PERSON drinks three pots of coffee to his or herself?"

"Whoa whoa whoa gonna have to cut you off there. We LIKE coffee here."

Total fucking avoidance.

I get that and realize that caffeine is a drug but how lets step back for a second here. Lets say you stop a meeting of hardcore drunkards and narcotics addicts and say "hey yall. The real problem is coffee and redbulls". And then you are feeling good about finally letting out your true feelings and someone slips in behind you and chops your head off with a sharp knife and drives around with your head staped to the hood of their car with a message on the top of the car saying "this is the face of caffeine addiction."

I don't hate cable TV but I don't use it.

I watch on demand. Period. I got a deal with my cable provider for cable TV + internet that was as cheap as cable internet alone but I never plugged in the box because I didn't ever feel the need to do so. I watched shows that I thought I would like and I don't care if I see them the day the new episode comes out or a year later.

This whole idea of just going into a stream of 25% commercials that is mostly garbage I don't care a about even when the commercials aren't on seems ridiculous.

sellerdore posted...

I think you meant 'expenses'

Read my post and check the clock buddy. But yes. I did indeed mean expenses. 800 Verbal SAT score 10 years ago right here.

Its uppers and downers for the common man basically. You drink coffee/energy drinks when you wake up and go to work you drink beer when you get home from work. Rinse and repeat.

Honestly I knew girls that looked better when I was in the Army.

She isn't magic.

In any given unit (that isn't a combat arms unit where females are generally banned from serving because they are too physically weak to pass the PT test) there are cute girls in the midst of a sea of dudes the other girls which are certainly fit but not quite as cute.

TC..... imagine you are at the top of your field in some area. There are a lot more top tier universities in the US than in Norway, there are a lot more top tier corporations and people at the top of their field in the US make an absolutely disgusting amount of money and we have a society where rich people can live like kings.

SmeedIy posted...

Atralis posted...

I spent a year in Afghanistan and 8 months in Iraq. You shouldn't go to either of those places.

weather is probably better than what we got right now

But you may get kidnapped and Canada doesn't negotiate or pay ransoms so they would probably chop your head off.

I spent a year in Afghanistan and 8 months in Iraq. You shouldn't go to either of those places.

Literally.

We be?

BLAKUboy posted...

Atralis posted...

You have to realize these guys have to make an episode a week for years and in Japan these anime literally run all year around without stops like a soap opera.

They've recently started having actual seasons with breaks, though I don't know how common a practice it currently is.

I know for the original Naruto it was every week. That is why for certain episodes, particularly some with heavy duty action scenes the animation changes dramatically. They basically are hiring another team just to produce those episodes because the main team can't animate all that stuff given the time constraints.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Trickfinger posted...

Atralis posted...

The weirdest thing I've encountered was in the ramp to get on the highway. The guy in front of my was carrying some oversized load in his trunk and he had his hazards on going fairly slow as he went around on the ramp. Annoying but what can you do.

The guy behind me was losing his fucking mind. He was honking, his arms were flailing, he was screaming, he was swerving left to right on this one lane on ramp.

Even going slow this was just the minute that it took to get through the ramp to the highway.

He probably had somewhere urgent to get to/was late.

This.

Also people who dont get to highway speed on the on-ramp are the literal worst.

But there is literally nothing to be done about it at that point. There isn't room to pass on this on ramp and the guy with the oversized load isn't going to rip through the turn at high speed and send his cargo flying off the ramp into oncoming traffic.

I get that it is annoying but losing your shit isn't the correct response to being delayed by one minute.

The weirdest thing I've encountered was in the ramp to get on the highway. The guy in front of my was carrying some oversized load in his trunk and he had his hazards on going fairly slow as he went around on the ramp. Annoying but what can you do.

The guy behind me was losing his fucking mind. He was honking, his arms were flailing, he was screaming, he was swerving left to right on this one lane on ramp.

Even going slow this was just the minute that it took to get through the ramp to the highway.

I have basically sworn off all these anime with hundreds of episodes for this reason. You have to realize these guys have to make an episode a week for years and in Japan these anime literally run all year around without stops like a soap opera.

Zikten posted...

In the Old Republic MMO there is at least one dark side force ghost. You meet it in one of the class stories

The Old Republic MMO's inquisitor class is literally built around collecting a whole troop of dark side force ghosts to help you fight a final battle against your rival.

Dash_Harber posted...

Atralis posted...

Dampproof posted...

Dude has PTSD. You think that they'd come back and everything would go back to normal? After all that time and what they had to endure?

Dude was weird before he made the decision to travel to Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Joshua_Boyle_and_Caitlan_Coleman

Long and strange story short he was briefly married to the sister of Canada's only Guantanamo Bay resident. Then he marries this other woman (the American he was captured with) and he takes his new bride to hike in the mountains of fucking Afghanistan. Because where else would you go for a honeymoon with your pregnant wife right?

To add too this, the couple decide that well in captivity by one of the most notorious terrorist groups in the world was the best time to start having children.

I can't begrudge that if they were stuck together with no birth control for years.

The reviews mostly whine about how the movie handled race.

Dampproof posted...

Dude has PTSD. You think that they'd come back and everything would go back to normal? After all that time and what they had to endure?

Dude was weird before he made the decision to travel to Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Joshua_Boyle_and_Caitlan_Coleman

Long and strange story short he was briefly married to the sister of Canada's only Guantanamo Bay resident. Then he marries this other woman (the American he was captured with) and he takes his new bride to hike in the mountains of fucking Afghanistan. Because where else would you go for a honeymoon with your pregnant wife right?

Not sure I'm the first person to bring this up but........ the Trojan War is to a certain extent a myth. Characters like Achilles and Odysseus may not have even existed and even if people by those names did take part a war between Greeks and Trojans their involvement almost certainly was radically different than the Iliad portrays.

That being said.... I'll agree that I've always found it a bit weird to see characters be randomly black or Asian in fantasy settings and no one ever brings it up. It seems to be a roll of the dice how it is handled. In some settings there is a land of black people in the fantasy world where black people came/come from (Elder Scrolls, Game of Thrones) in others black people are just there randomly.

I wouldn't worry about it.

These days even if you were drafted the only thing ensuring that you actually end up in the military would be some sense of shame about feigning some invisible ailment to avoid being drafted.

I turn off weight in every game like this.

Who has time for that shit?

We need to start sentencing heroin dealers to death and we need to drop herbicides on the opium crops in Afghanistan and every other country where it comes out of.

Pow Pow Punishment posted...

Atralis posted...

Where are you even getting this info?

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/israel/2015-10-28/what-isis-talks-about-when-it-talks-about-palestine

http://www.newsweek.com/palestinian-president-says-peace-failure-will-bring-isis-israel-and-west-bank-461027

http://www.atimes.com/article/hamas-powerless-isis-gains-ground-palestine/

None of these articles mention anything about what you are saying.

I think it's poor form to just post article links without referencing what in them you are talking about, so I'll just answer your question directly: ISIS' former magazine series Dabiq (every issue of which I've read), a plethora of Tweets from Daesh fighters accosting Hamas for supporting nationalism (can't post these because Twitter started banning the accounts in 2015), and practically every pamphlet they've issued and interview they've given where they decry the notion of man-made countries.

If you don't know they're anti-nationalist then you don't know about the very basics of ISIS. I'm at work right now but when I'm home I'd be happy to get some direct quotes for you.

I get that they are anti-nationalist but that doesn't mean that they hate Palestinians any more than Europeans that want a fully integrated "United States of Europe" hate the French or the Dutch.

Those articles basically describe that ISIS sees Palestine as a recruiting ground and that they use the Palestinian Israeli conflict and the feelings of anger that it engenders across the Muslim world as an issue to get people fired about about so that they join up.

Pow Pow Punishment posted...

Atralis posted...

I think you are confusing Hamas and Hezbollah buddy.

No, you're just unaware of ISIS' basic ideology. In at least one issue of Dabiq, as well as countless social media posts, they dismiss Hamas as heretics because nationalism is evil, and they thus reject Palestine as a state. There is only the caliphate. Countries are man-made notions.

StridentArremer posted...

He was thwarted before he could attempt to carry out any such action. Why would this be major news? Crazy people say and do stupid s*** all the time to attract attention from law enforcement, especially in this country.

Because people want to know what's going on around them, including me as someone who frequents San Francisco. You could apply that logic to any piece of news just because something else like the story might have happened before.

Where are you even getting this info?

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/israel/2015-10-28/what-isis-talks-about-when-it-talks-about-palestine

http://www.newsweek.com/palestinian-president-says-peace-failure-will-bring-isis-israel-and-west-bank-461027

http://www.atimes.com/article/hamas-powerless-isis-gains-ground-palestine/

None of these articles mention anything about what you are saying.