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On the plus side NUGT is winning big thanks Moonroof

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Oof I'm down like 100 bucks to open

I blame Trump extending the shutdown over the weekend what a jerk

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Yeah basically all of my stocks that are green on Monday I'm immediately cashing back out on. I expect escalating death tolls will hurt the market as will the April 10th deadline being realized to be implausible, so I want to get out as soon as possible. But I expect a small spike with the passing of the stimulus at least.

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Was not a good day trading day since everything was trending downwards hard. I didn't wanna risk it.

I decided to gamble on the stimulus doing something with opening prices come Monday, grabbed a few stocks right before things closed.

$500 of AAL
$500 of EVRI
$500 of NUGT
$500 of ACB (this I don't expect to get any benefits from it since it's Canadian based I just felt like getting it)

Not necessarily gonna stay on any of those for the long haul unless they turn up red on Monday (since long term I expect everything to go back up enough that I should make a small profit at least) but those are my moves for now with my modest amount of money playing around with this.

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Well I think MFA was a slamdunk at 30 cents or whatever, even 70 cents. I don't feel confident in it at this level though. I'm not necessarily expecting it to go back to 2.50 regularly. It certainly could but I'm not buying it till it drops pretty significantly again. Like for me it'd need to dip back below $1.

I'm not a stock guru like Chris though so yeah you can probably just ignore me.

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So finally got the stupid Robinhood working

How does after hours trading work btw like if I buy now do I buy it at the current price or what it opens at tomorrow?

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I'm always here. You've no fears of the guest losing points

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It's kinda like the slowly boiling the frog thing

You need to ease people into accepting two weeks, then another two, etc. The people who are realizing two weeks is unrealistic don't need to be eased.

I think Trump is doing the right thing there even if it is lying.

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To be fair that one does sound rather absurd even to an unbiased observer, unlike the Vegas concert story

Less absurd if one assumes you're misusing the term "up" but yeah

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Alright ETrade guys help me out here

What's the difference between the cash balance program and the E Trade financial extended insurance yadda yada

Is either one going to cost more than the other? I don't want to read several pages of fine print I basically just want some no strings attached stock trading how do I best achieve that.

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Robinhood is taking forever to process my signup-- pretty annoying cause like everything I was considering has gone up a ton in the past few days.

I think I'm just gonna make an etrade account instead.

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v_charon posted...

Honestly, a lot of companies are doing the same thing without as much bad press. I feel bad for them.

It's pretty dumb. They could've just silently remained open and wouldn't get as much flak for it because so many businesses are doing that as we speak.

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Corrik said it a lot better than I did as I ignored population sizes but yeah. That's a wild piece of sensationalistic propaganda in the math you're presenting there

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Wanglicious posted...

20-44 is still the 2nd highest group of hospitalizations at 20%. meaning 1 in every 5 adult aged 20-44 will need hospitalization.
combined with 45-54, it goes up to 38%.

Unless you're a genetic freak and you're not normal the hospitalization rate of 20-54 would be somewhere between 18-20% of 12%, not 38%

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Mass Effect 2

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BoF1 is basically only worth playing if the character designs and music appeal to you. Like I kinda enjoyed it but I like killing stuff with a dragon and a fairy and a lamia

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Doom 64 was actually my favorite N64 shooter. Moreso now as the frame rates on most other N64 shooters make them painful to play.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3

According to some sources, even if you survive you can have permanent damage.

Well to be fair they say you can recover by doing cardio training so I think it's probably too soon to be sure if that's 'permanent damage' given that many people who recover from things that require hospitalization would experience similar things after being discharged and would gradually recover with time

That being said maybe they won't recover time will tell like not trying to downplay it but yeah I'm not sure that article isn't saying anything that's not 'duh' for anyone who has been hospitalized for a sickness or knew someone who was at the moment.


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Yeah the Squall/Magus pick is a good pick I made but it was mostly you who sold me on it so I wouldn't put it on this list for me, cause well, you did the work. Definitely a very good pick though.

Honestly though not sure why none of us actually picked Knuckles-- if you buy Magus is overrated Knux is pretty good.

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Free $100 is a free $100.

But I'd already started the Robinhood process before that point and now they have a bunch of my information and my foot is in the door and bleh. Maybe I'll just play around this with like $1000 and move onto Etrade with $5000+ when I feel like maybe taking this a bit more seriously.

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Considering playing around with the stock market a bit with some expendable income.

Noticed Robinhood has a LOT of negative reviews because the app is buggy. Is this just people who are salty cause they lost their money or legitimate? Should I be looking into something else?

Edit: Looks like most of the negative reviews are from March 2nd and I assume it went down for a time then. Not sure why they're all at the top but heh.

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Zigzagoon posted...

main chars aren't very interesting to me

Sounds like Chrono Trigger as usual

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That's probably also my #3 good pick were I to make a list like this.

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Bad moderation

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Yeah I think the boost of 2005 was mostly just the decline of the competition. Square being further and further from relevancy changed the distribution of people who came here (people who are just googling for a guide to their game are going to be here less often with less RPGs being a big deal) regularly. I like to think that the higher vote totals and day to day churn of visitors on this website gets the weaker Nintendo looks. The people who are here day in and day out are the more Nintendo centric people. That's supported by how doubled registered voters alter the vote totals for matches too.

This site was probably most relevant in 2003 and 2007 and you see those as Nintendo's weakest years and it's probably not a coincidence.

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skullbone posted...

Priest cards getting HOF:

Auchenai Soulpriest
Shadowform

Well good way to guarantee I never play this game again right there. RIP

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SeabassDebeste posted...

it's more that a broken clock is right twice a day, so if you under/overrate character X 10 years in a row and then year 11 is the only year that it worked out, it's hard to call that skill

It greatly depends how much you're overrating the character and how often you're wrong or right, and the reasons for choosing the character

To paint Leon as a broken clock for picking against Ganondorf often, when it's very often been the right choice is pretty silly.

Similarly saying I'm a broken clock for picking Dante or Master Chief in debatable matches often when they've lost a bunch of 51-49s is also kinda dumb, especially when my moment of glory with the Chief was "overrating" him (correctly-- and you'll note I didn't do that in 1v1s I had him winning squeaker matches) to a ridiculous extent that no one else on the board was calling for based on factors involving four way matches that people hadn't considered.

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I am because I'm a guy who gets a lot of things wrong and most (not all, but most) of the things I get right you can discredit in the same way

And this isn't a Vlado accusation this is just a pattern I've noticed in following you in the crew and stuff, much like the pattern of guys like Leon and I having characters we like to argue for in debatable matches. You're always the first guy to pick against your bracket or whatever else-- and this often burns you, too. Sorry to offend by psychoanalyzing you I guess but I don't think I'm as far off the mark as you're claiming, especially with that comment which I may be taking too seriously in mind.

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Okay. I just wasn't sure if you were saying it was negative in a tongue in cheek kinda way or "well I hate to be the bearer of bad news buttt..." kinda way or what. If you're saying it's negative for negativity's sake then yeah not much to talk about.

Like I guess my point is that picking against the thing you want to win doesn't always make you more objective or your points more valid. It's always about the process to get to the pick and how far off the percentages are. If anything I feel like you tend to overcorrect and are actively picking against stuff you want to win in an attempt to feel like you're being analytical or apathetic about contest results or whatever.

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Bless the delay I would have forgotten to put an entry in

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transience posted...

I see your point, but that's not true for me and Master Chief.

Okay well, hypothetically speaking then, were someone to pick Sub-Zero there and do so in a way that the pick makes sense (as you can do by comparing to Scorpion and explaining why Sub-Zero should be more popular, as you did) and it panned out I think it's worth considering regardless of whether there's a pattern.

I just think that trying to discredit every pick that fits a pattern as biased is inherently pretty negative. It's like trying to find an excuse to give someone flak for literally every pick involving the character or game they like unless they pick against it which hey as you've given examples of isn't necessarily always the right move either.

Like you can hold all the 51-49 Dante and Master Chief losses against me you want but at the same time I don't feel it's fair to say calling Master Chief to do extremely well (and Dante to a lesser extent, though his was largely in pathing) in four ways should just be discredited cause I like picking the guys in debatable matches since it's still calling something correctly, and for all the poking I get for these picks it's not like I'm picking 60-40s wrong very often. They're all fairly close losses-- extremely close in many cases.

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34 and I'm kinda surprised I'm in the lower percentiles by the poll.

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transience posted...

I'm just gonna be mr. negative here, I guess. you don't get to claim credit for picking against Ganondorf because you always pick against Ganondorf! I bet you took Auron over Ganon, Magus over Ganon, you name it!

This is a kinda lame way to think.

Like the dude who calls a few fairly close matches wrong not only gets to be ridiculed for being wrong most of the time but also doesn't get any credit for the times it actually works cause "well it's bias." Like Mr Negative is 100% unironically right there cause if you're taking it that way you are being negative with every result.

Like I bet you've bet against Master Chief in every match he's been in but I wouldn't take away credit for the Sub-Zero pick cause it was still a risky pick on paper, just like going with Luigi over Ganondorf, especially since there were reasons to go with Luigi there that weren't bias based (Ganon's performance in SFF matches at that point made it a tempting pick)

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Side note I didn't help contribute to the death of mafia this time so I can stop being a martyr and feeling bad for being a toxic influence to b8 mafia

Thanks everyone

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It doesn't need to be your win condition though right?

You said you gained powers when Bart Simpson died why is that point reinforced by talking about a host PM. Just say your role specifically mentions Bart Simpson so he can't be a safelist claim. Like either you're lying about a host PM or you're lying about your ability, either way it's just weighing a lie vs a lie.

Like the only way that reinforces your point is if you were trying to get people to host meta Sultan's tendency to "accidentally leak" something-- which I guess may have been the point but then if that was the intent you can't really be surprised you were modkilled

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Except after the next to last mislynch I was going to open the day with a claim that we were actually neighbours and that Han had slipped in the neighbour chat and posted something meant for the scumboard.

I think that's a bad play and probably gets you lynched btw.

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Flavor claimed Bart. At the start of the game I stated that Bart is scum that I gain powers from killing. Lea said that is wrong because she is Bart. Now the theory is that if Bart was on scum's safe list then Lea could know I was lying and claim Bart. I can confirm that Bart is actual role in the game. This was accidentally leaked to me in a follow-up PM asking for clarification on my ability. I REPEAT, BART IS A REAL ROLE IN THE GAME AND THUS NOT ON ANY SAFE LIST

I'm not even sure why this angle was needed. Like, ignoring the fact that host meta bad etc etc what did this even add to the case that "my role needs Bart to die" does not. Why was the part about the host accidentally leaking important I don't get it.

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TheRock1525 posted...

I mean, JRs best run as an announcer was in WWF/E so sometimes it works in someone's favor.

I don't think Vince was screaming at announcers as much back then but maybe I'm wrong

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I would say VNs (of which AA is one) hardly even count as a game for the purposes of the difficulties faced in converting the medium

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Drakeryn posted...

for instance, Advent Children had a lot less hoop jumping to do. you could say, e.g., "Cloud's characterization is inconsistent with the game" but that's a lot more in line with the differences that scarlet's citing in comic book movies.

On the one hand yes. Heck I'd argue Cloud's personality was closer to the original than Thanos's was.

On the other hand, Advent Children (pretending it was a success for sake of discussion) as a movie I'd argue takes more liberties with FFVII than MCU movies cause the plot arc of it is a completely original creation, to say nothing of how faithful the characters are to the originals. If you made a FFVII movie and had it be successful it's going to need to take liberties with the plot to the point where the plot isn't going to be remotely recognizable. At its core I would say what drives FFVII's plot is Sephiroth's aura and building to the confrontation with him. But like, even ignoring the elements of FFVII's story that are enhanced by the gameplay, there's no way to really properly build that anticipation with the pieces FFVII's plot gives you and still have it work without many more hours of time buffered by random encounters (time sinks with no real purpose, but give the events of the story time to breathe). You'd have to think of a different way to do it, or shift the focus from that entirely.

And while there are more story/character driven games and series that it can be done with slightly less liberties taken, but those aren't the ones with the most to gain by using a video game IP either, y'know? A Metal Gear Solid movie ain't gonna have nearly the drawing power or marketable simplicity of Pokemon or even Sonic really.

That isn't to say it can't be done. Heck if Detective Pikachu actually is really similar to the plot of the game then making say a Super Mario Bros movie based off I dunno Bowser's Inside Story might be the solution. Just finding those weird spinoff games that characterize the mainstream videogame franchises a bit more, but are still written by people who have a great understanding of the world they're writing for.

But it's work, and easy to screw up, so no I don't think seeing a huge boom period for video game movies is a given at any point.

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Johnbobb posted...

tbh I haven't played the game but I also feel like many Pokemon fans haven't

Same. Knew the general gist of the game but can't honestly refute that it's not at all similar. BUT never seen anyone who has played the game either despite knowing a lot of Poke fans who have seen it so the overall point stands. At that point the movie being based on a game is almost technicality cause the source material you're adapting isn't what your fanbase is familiar with. It'd be like if a there was actually an Earth-458 Hyper Spiderman miniseries that mostly flopped where Peter Parker was Tony Stark's protege or something-- at that point it's still kinda the movie taking liberties.

That being said I'm very skeptical it's actually that close-- if that actually is a direct adaptation of the game or even close to one I'm extremely impressed though!

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Leonhart4 posted...

Nah, I'm not interested in an adaptation when you change everything about it. Just make an actual original movie at that point.

And this right here is the fine line you need to walk and why video game movies being a slam dunk isn't a sure thing. Like you HAVE to do it, but if it isn't done very carefully then the deviations will piss the target audience off more than draw them in.

So like Detective Pikachu basically does this, but it does so in a way that is palatable to the Pokemon fanbase-- but it's a very difficult thing to do in general I think. You have to write something that's not only high quality but also captures the feel of the original while not actually being the original-- otherwise, as Leon said it's easier to just make a completely fresh movie at that point because you've got a net negative by working with the IP.

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Let's put it another way

While I know less about comics than you, I knew about all of those changes before you mentioned them aside from specifically how Starlord was altered (unless it's just that Ego isn't his dad in the comics)

None of them compare to the hoop jumping Detective Pikachu had to do to make a plot out of Pokemon that would actually do well as a movie. Like not even a little. There's basically nothing about Detective Pikachu that isn't a completely original creation aside from the designs of the Pokemon themselves. Changing little things about the plots of the movies or details of the characters, yes they do have to make changes for it to gel well as a movie and it isn't a direct retelling of events or characters, but they also lay upon a foundation of events and details about the characters that will appease that fanbase-- that makes that fanbase react in a way that is more receptive to change rather than a defensive one out of the gate where the thinking is the creators are just writing fanfiction that isn't really related to the source material whatsoever.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's really tricky and something I think is much easier for a movie based on a comic book, and one that video game movies will continue to struggle with even as their budgets increase.

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Oh I see we're doing the thing where you assume no one knows anything about what they're talking about because you're a comic nerd

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The Joker did, which hey, one movie out of dozens good job because I disagree the MCU took nearly the number of liberties that video game movies need to or have.

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scarletspeed7 posted...

Taking a lot of liberties with the source material is the natural pathway to success with 75% of video game movies.

My point isn't that it isn't the natural path to success, just that that it being the natural pathway inherently makes a video game movie more difficult to hit the right spot for than one based on a book or comic book, which comparatively must take much less liberties.

Like you basically have to make an original creation for so much of it, while at the same time being faced with the scrutiny of people who had different visions for what you did based on their experiences with the video game which needed gaps filled in. You limit your potential gains of drawing from the existing fanbase pretty heavily due to doing that while at the same time alienating people unfamiliar with the material. This is less of an issue as the quality of the movies increase and as gaming becomes more mainstream, but I don't see it being a given games are going to touch anything the MCU did. More successes than we'd seen in the previous decade, sure, but to expect more is bold in my eyes.

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I'm surprised Triple H hasn't had like a dozen Corporate titles by now-- how many stupid monikers has he had in his career? Has to be at least like 10.

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Yeah I'm not sure I believe video game movies becoming the next big thing is something "anyone with half a brain can figure out"

Detective Pikachu was freakin Pokemon, which is pretty much the most mainstream option available for a video game movie, and took a lot of liberties with the source material to make it work for a movie at that.
Sonic was bolstered by a strange marketing campaign which will be hard to duplicate, and also took a lot of liberties with the source material.

We'll probably see more respectable attempts at making big budget game based movies now but will they just work? I'm not really sure. As Maria said a lot of the appeal to video games as a storytelling medium is in the interactivity. It's not as simple as just throwing big studio money into your favorite video game series and it just clicking. I'd say there's a lot more work needed in the approach taken because comic books give you a lot more to work with in terms of making a movie than video games do-- yes they do take liberties but the structure of a comic book arc is still pretty similar to how a series of movies could play out. Video games you've basically just got the strength of the characters and you have to reinvent the entire story or be reduced to something that only has appeal as raw fanservice.

But then to further complicate that a lot of video game characters only have appeal as characters because of the players identifying with the character due to playing stuff through with them-- is Link well characterized in a way that is going to translate to the big screen? It'd be a hard sell, because Link doesn't really have enough characteristics that are defined in the games to be a fleshed out character so many interpretations of Link are going to be different among his fans, so it's going to be a hit or miss reception by default because the vision of Link as a character among his fans is going to be inconsistent.

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