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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 2:06:28 AM
#237
I plagiarized my half of the exchange from a wandering warlord I wouldn't recommend it
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 1:51:47 AM
#235
Charge beam dude
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TopicIf It Were Up to Board 8: Link vs. Phoenix Wright and Solid Snake vs. Amaterasu
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12/10/18 1:34:58 AM
#33
Phoenix
Snake
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 1:04:02 AM
#230
FinalFantasyVll posted...
If Zelda loses its cause they don't want to see Zelda fed to Link again, see what someone else can do.


Copout defense. Several matches that would've flipped if that actually mattered.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:47:14 AM
#223
Moonroof posted...
And when these two go against each other, it isnt even close because practically all of the voters prefer one over the other. Aka SFF.


This clearly does not happen in Cloud vs Crono based on the results so I'm not sure what you're getting at?

Moonroof posted...
I understand that the extrapolated projections were spot-on for Crono, but Im saying you cant properly gauge him and Cloud from their match.


So we can't use the extrapolated projections and we can't use the direct match, so what should we use then? Kau Cim sticks? Divination through visions gained while taking a bath in the rejuvenating blood of a thousand virgins?
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:37:03 AM
#217
It turns out people prefer games over other games and characters over other characters

Unless it's done in a way that favors one in a lopsided way that's called contest strength not SFF
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:33:37 AM
#213
Moonroof posted...
Youre trying to tell me that most people voting Cloud over Crono havent played both games? And that most of them only played FF7 and thats why he won? I disagree. However, I would say another reason Cloud won so easily is because of Smash. So to your point, that has nothing to do with SFF.


SFF only applies if the fanbases disproportionately favor one over the other. I mean most people who have played FF7 have played Super Mario Bros that doesn't mean Mario SFFs Cloud or vice versa.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:32:18 AM
#211
You'd think if you got so much right you'd be on a leaderboard. At least the second chance one.
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Topic 2: Unlock your characters, get your mains
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12/10/18 12:29:01 AM
#89
SSE's story (or rather, its string of fanservice cutscenes) was fun. I don't know about the gameplay but I'd take it over every game but Ultimate's single player.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:27:20 AM
#206
Yeah I know why you said that.

And I'm telling you that it's simply not based on actual match results, so it likely does not exist.

For all the similarities you give I can give you reasons that they should have pretty distinct fanbases that won't fold disproportionately to another too. Being featured on different consoles that tend to not fold to one another, and having a very different type of character being two major ones (Crono more closely resembles a Nintendo character in that he doesn't really have one)
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:23:05 AM
#202
It's still not a given there's SFF in Cloud/Crono. That's all armchair theory and not really based on any results.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
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12/10/18 12:18:20 AM
#122
I may have actually voted Ganondorf there

That's a real tough one. Real bottom of the barrel.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:16:21 AM
#191
Can't wait for Samus to beat Cloud almost as badly as she beat Tifa
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:06:31 AM
#174
Snake beating Mario wouldn't shock me. I definitely think he gets a lot closer than what he got on Samus
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1319
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12/10/18 12:04:08 AM
#170
I like how there's a normal gap between Zelda and Snake despite Zelda beating Snake with less than 51%

How big is the normal gap like 0.3%?
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Topic 2: Unlock your characters, get your mains
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12/09/18 11:59:12 PM
#86
red13n posted...
You can win all of them without the support.


I'm sure it's possible (I can't) but compared to the other gimmicks it's way tougher and more oppressive.

Well, it also heavily depends on the stage. I'm sure there are some stages with wind/rotating I can beat without shutting them off but yeah.

Not good gimmicks in any case.
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Topic 2: Unlock your characters, get your mains
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12/09/18 11:49:43 PM
#80
red13n posted...
there are supports for these. Have only needed to stop dangerously high winds once.


I saw one for the rotating screen and partially assumed there would be one for winds. Good to see that's the case.

That you basically need to counterplay them with supports to have a chance makes them the worst though. Ideally I'd like to be able to win these matches without having to just hard shut down the gimmick.
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks Sci Fi Films I-2
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12/09/18 11:35:51 PM
#409
I used to fall into the side of Matrix being slightly overrated, but I think that's more immediately after its release. Nowadays it isn't really seen as some deeply profound thing and I feel ironically it has more people chastising it for not being that and it has mostly balanced out to being treated fairly.

Like as a hard hitting action action movie with a just good enough plot to keep you invested and some pretty cool world building it's awesome. As long as you're not trying to claim it's a lot more than that, then I don't feel you're really overrating it. NeoxTrinity does suck but whatever-- it doesn't take as much screentime as it could take.

Nowadays I think more than Matrix being overrated I think I'm more in the camp of Reloaded being underrated, cause I mean, taking away the novelty of the world Matrix 1 built the plot isn't really a lot less coherent or anything, and I like the fight scenes and philosophy promos better there. Glad a lot of the write-ups gave it a shout out.
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Topic 2: Unlock your characters, get your mains
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12/09/18 11:27:13 PM
#70
I assume you have not played in a match with "Dangerously High Winds" or "Rotating Screen" yet because those are way worse than either of those.
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TopicFire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 21: A far fetched return.
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12/09/18 11:21:29 PM
#384
I literally only got 8/12 of the orbs I had so little interest in this one.

Nifl (which has at minimum 3 out of the bottom 4 characters in the gauntlet) sweeping round 1 didn't help.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Princess - Day 13
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12/09/18 11:19:14 PM
#85
Starfire
Farah
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Princess - Day 13
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12/09/18 9:47:59 PM
#58
Azula
Mint
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Princess - Day 13
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12/09/18 8:43:15 PM
#34
Xena (Xena: Warrior Princess)
Yuyuko Saigyouji (Touhou)
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TopicPost your Smash Unlock Order
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12/09/18 8:40:44 PM
#101
ROB
Luigi (loss)
Bowser Jr
King Dedede
Luigi
Rosalina
Snake
Richter Belmont
Toon Link
Sheik

Well at least I got Snake and Richter. At the point where I'm almost done though. Beat the game with Ridley too still no Dark Samus to (supposedly) get Cloud but whatever. No real rush!
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 42.b: The Haunted Seven's curse was the purge.
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12/09/18 8:36:11 PM
#281
1/3 Agrias LMR (dupe for a third) (P sure I got this last rop too)

Bad start!
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
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12/09/18 7:10:59 PM
#91
Bah Samus I have a streak here you're failing me!
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TopicFinal Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 52 - Ready 2B Disappointed? A2-time banner.
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12/09/18 6:21:14 PM
#339
Katy Perry lmao I refuse to believe that's going to do good business
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks Sci Fi Films I-2
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12/09/18 6:07:35 PM
#396
It's mostly society that changes. Scarlet had a great example of the type of thing I'm talking about.

scarletspeed7 posted...
This same lack of awareness about a touchy subject plays out in the supposedly iconic scene where Marty takes the stage with a group of black musicians and a white high school. Of course, we know that small-town white folks in 1955 would never allow this to happen, and the room for social commentary between the decades is left empty.


For me it's less about "lack of social commentary" and more that it breaks immersion or the feeling that we're actually in the 50s. There are a lot of things strewn throughout the film in the past that are basically things that feel straight out of the 80s. Something like this may come off as nitpicky to you but for me it's what keeps the movie from being legit really fun and unique and basically just makes it an above average generic 80s comedy.

Generic 80s comedies aren't exactly my cup of tea. Gun to my head I still like the movie. But it could be a lot better.
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks Sci Fi Films I-2
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12/09/18 5:55:25 PM
#394
I'm saying it's time travel with no thought into it

It's basically a stand up routine where you want an excuse to make the subject of the jokes based around time travel. Which is fine for what it is but that's nothing I'm super big on

The quantity of time travel is irrelevant but the past should feel like the past rather than the present with bubblegum pop
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks Sci Fi Films I-2
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12/09/18 5:47:58 PM
#392
Back to the Future is very meh. I never liked it because the past in it doesn't really feel any different than the current day (the 80s) with a different coat of paint. There were a lot of movies and TV shows that had captured a feeling of "this is the past/future", even then. I always liked The Wonder Years for example largely because that felt like it was a past time.

It's basically a generic comedy with a time travel gimmick. The time travel is wholly irrelevant to it.

The only thing I can disagree with Scarlet on is dissing Doc Brown. He was fine for what he does. Dude being zany was the only high point of the movie
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:50:19 PM
#467
FinalFantasyVll posted...
I asked have we ever seen a 5 minute tie toward the end of a 50-50 match. A much MUCH smaller sample aize


Yet still not nearly small enough to not be an incredibly stupid thing to ask

I'm pretty sure we've had close matches with multiple ties in a row near the end (particularly considering this is a very generous definition of near the end with the match having over 4 hours left) at this point
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:49:25 PM
#466
Mario match is fraudulent yeah. Both of them, probably.

I'm not saying Samus literally gained 8% of the vote from Smash, but I wouldn't see Samus getting more than 53% or so normally.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:45:05 PM
#460
Also I actually am a nerd who has an (ill maintained-- I'm not that much of a nerd) top character list and I'm getting the Samus feels right now.

Not enough to vote her over Snake, mind you, but you know. I'd probably vote her over Mega Man right now if the matches were shuffled around when I wouldn't normally (and Crono but that's always the case because Crono sucks). Mario tomorrow too. Granted that's not all Smash and it's more complicated than that but I'm just saying voting for characters in the moment, for whatever reason, is something that I'm sure a lot of voters do.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:40:36 PM
#455
ZeldaTPLink posted...
and out of those 24% about a third were so moved by seeing Samus on a screen with 8+ characters that they decided to vote for her here?



You're dumbing it down. It's not just seeing her on a character select screen. It's Samus being inherently more closely tied with Smash Bros. Your average Smash enthusiast is going to have a lot more fond memories of Samus from that game than Snake.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:34:15 PM
#451
ZeldaTPLink posted...
And think: "now I like her more than Snake".


You think "I like both but I'm going to vote Samus and Samus is awesome, and I think that because I see her right here"

Like you're not converting people who really like Snake a lot more. People who just appreciate both characters though? Recency factor means a lot.
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TopicSuper Smash Bros. Ultimate Official Topic: 1 week until Ejaculation Salt hype
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12/09/18 2:30:53 PM
#497
Reg posted...
2) A few characters still strike me as completely pointless for varying reasons. I didn't notice a single mechanical difference between Ryu/Ken and Richter/Simon while playing their Classic modes. Lucina as a character still literally has no reason to exist. Villager is just an awful waste of space, as is Wii Fit Trainer. Why are Dark Pit and Dark Samus completely separate characters?


Ryu can throw a red fireball with half circle forward and Ken throws a powered up axe kick instead. Ken's Shoryuken is significantly better as well in terms of damage and knockback. They've also got a fairly decent amount of different A attacks. I believe Ken's hurricane kick has a slightly different trajectory too.

Basically they're about as different as you can expect them to be without them radically changing Ken for the sake of being different. If you actually play Street Fighter you can tell pretty easily. Can't speak for Richter/Simon as I haven't unlocked Richter yet but I imagine there are a lot of differences there too.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:17:48 PM
#440
Doubled lead in 5 minutes after taking over 19 hours to get there?

These Crono vote stuffers are so audacious I swear
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Topic~Character Battle X Spread Betting~ Losers Round 4: Cloud (-12), Mario (-2)
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12/09/18 2:12:56 PM
#7
MAX on parlay of Winner of MM/Crono and Samus Aran
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:12:08 PM
#433
Yeah Crono's votestuffer slacks off when he gets the lead and Mega Man recovers

Very blatant vote stuffing.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
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12/09/18 2:09:05 PM
#77
Lopen's unofficial analysisx2

Cloud vs Winner
Winner may as well be called loser because neither of these guys have a chance as neither made a statement against the other. I suppose Mega Man has a slightly better chance on the off chance that Crono was SFFed by Cloud, but I'm not convinced that actually is a thing that happens based on previous matches involving CT/FF guys.

Cloud with 56.12%

Samus vs Mario
With Smash hype at an all time high, and Samus now 0-2 against Mario (I'm pretty sure this is at least partially why Crono/Mario 04 was not close at all), it's time for the Samus miracle run to begin, and in convincing fashion. I think Samus is going to go big on the swing as she's basically got every intangible in her corner. Mario's got negative momentum from losing to Zelda, Mario is way less the favorite in Smash, and people remember past results and want Samus to win at this point.

As the board's foremost expert on Mario vs Samus matches, having called both percentages within 1.5%, when both were WACKY RESULTS, you can trust me on this one. You will not be disappointed!

Samus Aran with 55.89%
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 2:08:07 PM
#431
ZeldaTPLink posted...
You mean because she doesn't have to be unlocked?

Does seeing Samus in a character screen really make ~7% of the site turn their opinions on her around?


I mean she doesn't have to be unlocked
Is a fan favorite from the original 12, having only lost to Link (and dominating Mario, who lost to Kirby Captain Falcon and Pikachu to throw out the theory that it's all just contest strength) in the Smash character poll
Is in all the games instead of just two of them

Like it's not even close which character it matters more for.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 1:53:13 PM
#415
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I've heard this theory but I have a hard time thinking Smash would boost one or two characters to the sky while ignoring the rest who are also on Smash. It sounds too random.


Comparing Samus's role in Smash to Snake's in any release that isn't Smash Bros Brawl, is laughable. It's absolutely likely that Samus gets a bigger boost than Snake who is sorta just happy to be there at this point.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
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12/09/18 1:48:51 PM
#75
transience posted...
every close one has gone against me this year, it feels like


Welcome to my world (as to be expected considering you're the crew member I've been agreeing with most this year)
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TopicZelda > Mario?
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12/09/18 1:29:19 PM
#64
Dragonruler9999 posted...
compared to sunshine. Its no where near that good.


Too obvious
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 1:23:12 PM
#392
People who care enough to strategize bringing down Link probably care enough to strategize bringing down Cloud (who is almost as hated as Link on his own merits) because he can't beat Link. I doubt many do
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TopicITT we theorize how Link can maybe ever lose
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12/09/18 1:21:20 PM
#10
Miyamoto mentions offhand in a tweet that Link is not gay
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 1:20:11 PM
#390
Well I mean Mega Man vs Cloud is a new match Crono vs Cloud is not. Pikachu is pretty irrelevant here.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1318
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12/09/18 1:16:46 PM
#388
If "you had your chance" was a factor that mattered Mega Man is probably winning a lot more easily
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TopicYou guys always underestimate Crono
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12/09/18 1:13:10 PM
#13
Yeah I think I was conflating MM/Crono 05 with Sonic/Crono 06. Winning by 3% ain't really that close
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TopicYou guys always underestimate Crono
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12/09/18 1:01:59 PM
#10
Oh yeah. I should've known that 2k5 he beat Mega because I remember Mario whooping him
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