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IGCD, vote Plum if you're not already please and thank you

Note Isquen countervote Wallz here when he supposedly thinks Corrik is fake doctor

This is thrashing scum protecting his fragile gambit

Corrik7 posted...

Isquen faking the scan on Lea was pointless for scum because it was too easy to get wrong

Scum team knows the following

I am cop and they have my result
Protection, if it counters the fake watcher claim, outs itself
Town scanner can target Lea if watcher, but that risk is already absorbed by a straight counterclaim to Isquen
They "clear" Lea by watching her.

It is a very high EV play to fake a watch on Lea.

Ok how about this

We lynch Plum. We see if his role reveals as something that can target Lea last night.

Then we confirm Isquen is lying when he flips as like assassin or something.

You want to get the glory of finding Kirby I get it

You do agree all of them are scum though right

We lynch plum
We lynch Isquen

Hopefully when both flip scum town will believe me on Lea

We lynch Lea

We find the last scum among Peaf, red, Kirby

We win.

masterplum posted...

Your argument is I countered claimed corriks doctor claim and it just so happens that Corrik isnt doctor after all and there is no doctor in the game countering me

Corrik is likely a doctor that is renamed as "teleporter" or "space ninja" or something

That would fit with Corrik telling the truth but being funny about it perfectly

Corrik7 posted...

Har Har I'm so funny, Death. Eh?

Now that's actually relevant breadcrumbing

Corrik was being cute

He is doctor but he's not doctor

But because his role is identical to a doctor there isn't a doctor in the setup

Pretty easy

Corrik's role performs the function of a doctor but has a different title I would assume because Yoshimitsu as a doctor doesn't make sense

Corrik7 posted...

My flavor is Yoshimitsu, Lopen.

Yup

Makes way more sense as a doctor than random goober safelist #6 no one cares Tekken character. Flavor is probably he teleports you away or something.

IGCD I give you freedom to vote Isquen as well if you want

We literally can't lose here if people just trust I know how to play mafia and lynch the obvious gambit

Stop wifoming and think how convenient everything is and realize SCUM CAME INTO TODAY KNOWING I WAS COP

Dayvig joke only works if you haven't already claimed power

Corrik claim your flavor and we'll see it makes more sense as doctor than obv safelist goober unimportant guy with "Dr" in their name.

Kirby321 posted...

... Wait yeah hold up

Isquen voted for you and then later Plum

The hell is up with that?

Scum is being laid low here

Gambits upon gambits they've forgotten anything resembling internal consistency.

masterplum posted...

In order for me to be scum you have to assume I am a scum scanner who scanned lea

I WOULD LITERALLY NEVER DO THIS

Slow down there chief Isquen hasn't even fakeclaimed his watcher result yet

masterplum posted...

You literally wrote "Ulti is town" as the first post of the topic

He made no effort to actually defend ulti

He was clearly lip service "acting scummy" so scum wouldn't shoot him or scan him

And it worked

Note this huge delay despite Isquen being at the edge of claiming

Isquen is literally unsure what to do here because I called his move before he made it

If it was a truthful claim he would just... claim.

I honestly think me being laser sight on point is making them trip all over each other and think these plays are good

I mean they may be good. If they can strip all the town power off the board the last remaining scum may be able to survive

Like 2/3 of red, peaf, and Kirby are town so you're already fooling good players here

My instinct is that peaf is the one that's scum as he's the only one of those three that respects my play, and Kirby and red just aren't taking me seriously.

Which means that scum just turbo rushed Kirby to start the day which is hilarious.

Now we get Isquen saying plum visited Lea

This scum team is A++ theater

Plum is scum I've been saying it all game

Plum and Isquen discussing the fakeclaim on scum board bleeding into the real board

Any scum informational role visiting Lea would make more sense than a town informational role. So a scum role scanner or something. Town scanner visiting Lea is dumb because even if you suspect her if town she's likely dead N1.

Really Isquen and Lea are scummates but a town watcher when doctor has all but claimed isn't holding their result.

The fact that he won't when Corrik is clearly doctor to me is very suspicious

Isquen claimed someone visited Lea

If Corrik is doc then it's likely the one who visited Lea that wasn't Isquen was a scum role and he should reveal it

wallmasterz posted...

Why do you think an uncountered watcher claim is definitely town (less common role) and an uncountered cop claim (super common role) is only probably town?

Like this should be the final nail for plum here.

Plum is clearly faking paranoia mode plum here. I have too much respect for his play as town to think he's failing to think about the game to this level.

I don't like the Kirby lynch. Too many people I'm dodgy on supporting it

Plum is RIGHT THERE. If we really don't want to believe my Lea theory, right as it is, just lynch Plum.

Maybe Isquen tilted too much of his hand here.

I feel like Heihachi Mishima having some sort of command counter to being scanned would actually make sense.

Maybe Kirby is town

Some incredibly bad takes by red in response to my claim. Like combined with "Ulti is town" I just give red a lot more credit than this to understand the game if he's trying

So is he intentionally misunderstanding to sow confusion or pretending to try

htaeD posted...

But to me It still does not make sense for Ulti to suicide unless Plum was scum as well

He is

No claim Corrik

Isquen fake claiming watcher here only makes sense if Lea is scum

Isquen real claiming watcher never makes sense

Occulam's says Lea is scum

Agree with Corrik this feels performative

Lea
Plum
Isquen
Kirby

Let's go for the flawless victory guys

Breadcrumbing your role action is for fake claiming

No doubt in my mind Isquen is scum here. Probably didn't plan to fakeclaim watcher so soon but watching his teammate guarantees no useful info out of it. Doctor counters when he bses result? Scum finds Doctor.

Kirby321 posted...

Lopen why the hell did you even claim

Because scum knows I am cop and a watcher claim is drawing doctor

Here's a better question

Why breadcrumb you are watching Lea when you come out and just say it for no reason at all on day 2.

Like why would a town protection knowing you know who they are matter when you're dead

You do realize that's what breadcrumbs are for right. If you're alive you just tell them what it is.

Isquen posted...

For starters, the town protection knows that I know who they are.

... and this serves what point?

Isquen posted...

I agree that I don't think a town aligned role thief makes sense. However, I REALLY doubt scum has both a roleblock *and* a "screw you we get your info now" too.

So I'm a cop lying about getting hit by a role thief then? Which is it?

Why do you need to breadcrumb your watch target. Explain the point. What can town possibly get out of knowing who you watched after you died.

So what you think a town aligned role thief makes sense then? Because that's the only way I shouldn't claim here.

I explained clearly why I needed to claim. Don't put my claim in the same boat as his.

He also thinks scum would claim cop blind with an entire game to counter it

It's because he's panicking scum because I crushed his gambit into dust.

Who needs scans I'll get all the scum without em.

I don't buy there's a watcher that claimed when you did

You know what's telling is jumping to me being scum instead of misreading the situation

When I claimed cop

Like there seriously is no cop

Do you think there isn't a cop in the setup Isquen

I claimed because if you draw doc I'm dea anyway

Note also Plum's reaction earlier today to me saying Roleblocker wasn't that strong and scum probably had a stronger role

Kirby struck me as suspicious today too for the same reason, and yeah it could be him over IGCD. I feel this was scum tipping their hand knowing I know scum has a role thief.

IGCD just feels so blatantly scummy day 1 I was feeling it had to be a play you know?

Also I'm so happy I got Lei he's my favorite Tekken character.