Board 8 > Tekken Mafia Topic 4 - Round 2... FIGHT!

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Here's a better question

Why breadcrumb you are watching Lea when you come out and just say it for no reason at all on day 2.

Because I suck at keeping secrets, but not to the level that I have to claim a cop to try and refute it and bury so many other good leads for today.

I *thought* your brand of lunatic conspiracies was a bit tame this game so far.

What the fuck is going on

Lopen why the hell did you even claim

This is just... good grief what the hell are you all doing

And yet, in spite of all this, I still think Corrik is the liar here. Lopen is uncountered Cop whose claim doesn't even contradict Isquen's.

And Isquen is saying a whole bunch of defensive shit right now, but what do you expect when two dudes are jumping down your throat with claims, one of which was completely asinine and did not need to be a claim at all.

Like what exactly was the plan here
Fucking hell man

Kirby321 posted...

Lopen why the hell did you even claim

Because scum knows I am cop and a watcher claim is drawing doctor

I buy Lopen claiming cop in this situation because its a dilemma I have struggled with myself as scanner whenever I got roleblocked, and this power sounds even worse. Also makes me see his theorycrafting against Lea today in a different light.

Though I think I want something spelled out for the rest of us.
You didn't target Lea, I presume? Or else Isquen would not still be suggesting he saw protection target Lea.

Isquen posted...

Something similar. Tekken's a fighting game. Maybe red's a grappler or performed a command counter. Or maybe you jumped on a Corrik grenade.

He admits I went to Lea now but also says Lopen did too?

Got em.

Anyways, I'm going to bed and probably won't be around for the morning, which means minimal check-in time during work tomorrow. If I get midnight-specialed or killed end of day, get rid of Corrik and Lopen, and don't give Lea an out. Pursue Kirby, wallz, IGCD, and hb another day.

Otherwise... hey, protection person? If a so-called role thief exists, I have reason to pause and not target you with it. I hope you understand (though if we somehow nail them, you 100% have my eyeballs.)

Kirby is scum btw

Isquen, did Corrik visit Lea? Did Lopen visit Lea?

Give us some yes or no answers here to make it clear what's going on.

Oh nevermind
I saw you scanned red

Sorry, I just woke upokay

Kirby321 posted...

Isquen, did Corrik visit Lea? Did Lopen visit Lea?

Give us some yes or no answers here to make it clear what's going on.

He isn't watcher so he doesn't know lol. But you are scum anyways so hush. Very perfomative your outrage was.

Breadcrumbing your role action is for fake claiming

No doubt in my mind Isquen is scum here. Probably didn't plan to fakeclaim watcher so soon but watching his teammate guarantees no useful info out of it. Doctor counters when he bses result? Scum finds Doctor.

Kirby321 posted...

Isquen, did Corrik visit Lea? Did Lopen visit Lea?

Give us some yes or no answers here to make it clear what's going on.

No on both counts. Lopen claimed he visited red and had the result stolen. Corrik is being a bridge troll.

Sure, Corrik. And you're totally a town power role. Scum.

Still never addressed this point from MZero:
MZero posted...

Hey Corrik, why are you insisting that Isquen has to claim who visited Lea but you're not claiming what you targeted Lea with? Seems pretty hypocritical

Like seriously, everyone who played with town power Corrik knows how he plays, right? I'm pretty darn sure this isn't town power Corrik with his absolute lack of effort D1.

Lopen posted...

Breadcrumbing your role action is for fake claiming

No doubt in my mind Isquen is scum here. Probably didn't plan to fakeclaim watcher so soon but watching his teammate guarantees no useful info out of it. Doctor counters when he bses result? Scum finds Doctor.

If Isquen's goal was to bait out Doctor, why the fuck would he not just claim Doctor? Why fakeclaim Watcher???

If Isquen is scum, then his clear goal was to bait out Watcher, completely unprovoked. Why?

Kirby321 posted...

Sure, Corrik. And you're totally a town power role. Scum.

Still never addressed this point from MZero:

Like seriously, everyone who played with town power Corrik knows how he plays, right? I'm pretty darn sure this isn't town power Corrik with his absolute lack of effort D1.

It's funny you say that because if you actually wanted to analyze my play, you will realize I said how red as town power afks day 1. I said as vanilla I afked day 1 a game after because I was hoping scum would think I was town power as red was. So, the question is... do you think I tried that multiple games in a row when it didn't work that game.

Tsk tsk sad.

Agree with Corrik this feels performative

Lea
Plum
Isquen
Kirby

Let's go for the flawless victory guys

Oh Corrik definitely feels like he is trying to take advantage of the situation here and normally I would distrust him over Isquen.

Lopens claim adds some context to the day however

And yet Isquen fake claiming watcher seems almost too foolish since its not just protection who could counter him.

Lopen posted...

Agree with Corrik this feels performative

Lea
Plum
Isquen
Kirby

Let's go for the flawless victory guys

Unfortunately 3 of your 4 on your list is town. But, let's kill Kirby. Woe is me I am so town and you all are acting ca-razy!!!

Corrik7 posted...

It's funny you say that because if you actually wanted to analyze my play, you will realize I said how red as town power afks day 1. I said as vanilla I afked day 1 a game after because I was hoping scum would think I was town power as red was. So, the question is... do you think I tried that multiple games in a row when it didn't work that game.

Tsk tsk sad.

You're a right hypocrite is what you are. Don't even try to claim Doctor because I know you'd be lying.

Kirby321 posted...

You're a right hypocrite is what you are. Don't even try to claim Doctor because I know you'd be lying.

Sure Jan

Isquen fake claiming watcher here only makes sense if Lea is scum

Isquen real claiming watcher never makes sense

Occulam's says Lea is scum

Though to counter Kirby's argument, Watchers arent in every game anymore, so I dont think a scumfaker 100 % expects to get countered by a Watcher specifically.

htaeD posted...

Though to counter Kirby's argument, Watchers arent in every game anymore, so I dont think a scumfaker 100 % expects to get countered by a Watcher specifically.

Scum knows if a watcher exists by whether they have a ninja or not. Only way a watcher exists and no ninja is a Jack of All Scans / Trades.

Kirby321 posted...

If Isquen's goal was to bait out Doctor, why the fuck would he not just claim Doctor? Why fakeclaim Watcher???

to be fair the last time someone fakeclaimed protection fairly unprompted did not work out well

Corrik7 posted...

Scum knows if a watcher exists by whether they have a ninja or not.

Not necessarily - ninja is way more common as the counter to tracker.

Should I claim? Yes/no? I lay it on my dear friend Lopen to decide. To the glory of town.

Hbthebattle posted...

Not necessarily - ninja is way more common as the counter to tracker.

No. Way. In. Hell. Tracker is a weak af scanner.

No claim Corrik

Lopen posted...

No claim Corrik

Then no claim it shall be. I gave you the option. And never again shall I offer it to you.

Oh and to address something you said to me while I was asleep, Lopen
I will agree with you that Lea was more a passive element in the Ulti lynch because Ulti himself instigated the fight (twice even)
But to me It still does not make sense for Ulti to suicide unless Plum was scum as well.

Then...
Lopen posted...

Isquen fake claiming watcher here only makes sense if Lea is scum

Isquen real claiming watcher never makes sense

Occulam's says Lea is scum

I am not sure if that first sentence is the only reason?
Like you said...its possible Isquen fake claimed watcher just because scum wanted to draw protection away from you.

Woops

##unvote:
##vote: Kirby

Unless Isquen is secretly an Insane Watcher, no way both Isquen and Corrik are telling the truth here.

I have reason to believe Corrik isn't Doctor, so why he would target Lea is very unexplained. I am not inclined to believe he is the truthful one here.

htaeD posted...

But to me It still does not make sense for Ulti to suicide unless Plum was scum as well

He is

Corrik7 posted...

Scum knows if a watcher exists by whether they have a ninja or not. Only way a watcher exists and no ninja is a Jack of All Scans / Trades.

Trackers could also be a reason for ninjas to exist.
Though admittedly if scum dont have a ninja, they could be emboldened to fakeclaim either watcher or tracker.

Kirby321 posted...

Unless Isquen is secretly an Insane Watcher, no way both Isquen and Corrik are telling the truth here.

I have reason to believe Corrik isn't Doctor, so why he would target Lea is very unexplained. I am not inclined to believe he is the truthful one here.

Doctor didn't target Lea. But you already know that, Kirby. Nice try.

Oh HB beat be to the tracker suggestion.

And for shame Corrik, Trackers are not to be laughed at.

We should hammer Kirby for the glory of town. Put him on a pike.

htaeD posted...

Oh HB beat be to the tracker suggestion.

And for shame Corrik, Trackers are not to be laughed at.

Trackers are weak scanners. It is known. Watcher is the second strongest scanner.

Corrik7 posted...

Doctor didn't target Lea. But you already know that, Kirby. Nice try.

You can keep taunting me all you like, but the fact of the matter stands that your motivations for targeting Lea with any kind of role are nonexistent. None of your D1 posts ever hinted at targetting Lea for an analytical reason, and you are most certainly not a protection role, or at least not a strong one like Doctor.

Kirby321 posted...

You can keep taunting me all you like, but the fact of the matter stands that your motivations for targeting Lea with any kind of role are nonexistent. None of your D1 posts ever hinted at targetting Lea for an analytical reason, and you are most certainly not a protection role, or at least not a strong one like Doctor.

Hmmm should I throw scum a bone since they are about to get swept? Yes/no?

I'll let you decide this time, Death. Lopen said no.

https://images.app.goo.gl/iUHjygJJ5Z9ub2M48

Aw man dont give me that much power

On one hand I feel like I wouldn't be doing my due diligence if I did not ask for a full claim from Corrik if he actually is countering Isquen
(Because I really thought you were just Corriking around yesterday)
On the other hand I dont think its necessary when all I really need to hear is:

Are you 100 % telling the truth about having visited Lea?

htaeD posted...

Aw man dont give me that much power

On one hand I feel like I wouldn't be doing my due diligence if I did not ask for a full claim from Corrik if he actually is countering Isquen
(Because I really thought you were just Corriking around yesterday)
On the other hand I dont think its necessary when all I really need to hear is:

Are you 100 % telling the truth about having visited Lea?

I'm am offering to throw a bone, Death. I am not offering to claim for you.

Now I am just confused.
If the bone is not a claim then I guess thats okay?
Though I still want my own question answered as well.

htaeD posted...

Now I am just confused.
If the bone is not a claim then I guess thats okay?
Though I still want my own question answered as well.

Okay death invokes a bone throw.

Here it is: There is absolutely not a doctor in this setup. Facts.

I am going to scream if we lynch Isquen and he flips Town Watcher.

If he's actually scum, burn me at the pyre a thousand times over, for I am just eternally stupid and stubborn.

But this kind of behavior from Isquen reminds me of every other time he's gotten mislynched as a power role. Can we please not let history repeat itself?

Kirby321 posted...

I am going to scream if we lynch Isquen and he flips Town Watcher.

If he's actually scum, burn me at the pyre a thousand times over, for I am just eternally stupid and stubborn.

But this kind of behavior from Isquen reminds me of every other time he's gotten mislynched as a power role. Can we please not let history repeat itself?

Performative.

Everyone knows isquen is town already.

Corrik7 posted...

Okay death invokes a bone throw.

Here it is: There is absolutely not a doctor in this setup. Facts.

And yet
You thought Ulti was town for claiming Jailkeeper
HMMMM

Just to be clear, I'm not Doctor. Never claimed to be.

But if Corrik claimed Doctor, I was ready to hard counter with, "If you were truly Doctor, why did you think Ulti was telling the truth about being Jailkeeper, another protective role?"