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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/21/21 11:41:31 PM
#136
pegusus123456 posted...
I think the drug-addled CEO was Ryan's true form. The rest of it was him just trying and failing to get back to that spot. I feel like you could make the argument that he was a sociopath.

But was he always a sociopath? Or did the office and/or michael and/or kelly make him that way? Or that is to say, enable him
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/20/21 8:42:31 AM
#133
Just found out there are a whole bunch of deleted scenes, where do I find them all?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYUyGZMJTSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlXIBY2kzUA
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/19/21 12:05:48 PM
#131
Thoughts on Ryan going from awkward nervous temp, to smug "thinks he's better than everyone" junior salesman, to douchey 80s style drug addicted wall street type executive, to blonde bowling alley employee, to glasses wearing hipstery persona?
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/18/21 11:49:31 AM
#130
Anyone noticed this?

Erin makes Andy likable and endearing. Holly makes Michael likable and endearing. I find that interesting.

Meanwhile, Angela does not make Dwight any different, they both seem borderline toxic in a hilarious (but also not) way
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/18/21 10:40:27 AM
#124
Those rare moments where Michael is uncharacteristically competent though. And when they give him actually inspiring lines. I don't even care if it doesn't fit his usual idiocy, it just feels good to actually like Michael instead of look at the clock and wait for a scene with the other more fun characters.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/18/21 10:13:57 AM
#123
Remember that episode when Jim was like "say what you will about Michael, he would never leverage the company for a better job offer"

Welp, now Michael has done something even more selfish. Jim was talking to David Wallace about getting Michael promoted to manager of the entire region, and Jim would be promoted to Michael's old job. But Michael sabotaged it because of his insecurity and selfishness.

He really is a terrible person.
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TopicSo will Shang Chi be what Iron Fist should have been?
saspa
08/17/21 12:39:41 AM
#45
Think they'll do another scene in this movie where the mandarin goes "I am the mandarin!" this time around?
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/16/21 11:14:35 PM
#81
Mgs 4 overcorrecting with nanomachines is one thing, but the fact that mgs 5 tries to overcorrect the events of metal gear 1 and 2 is just... yeah. I never bothered playing it, noped out by mgs4. I didn't even play peace walker, I just don't care about big boss and don't get the creator's fascination with him nor mgs fans' fascination with him.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/16/21 11:17:40 AM
#117
Oh man there's no overlap between Karen and Erin, that's a shame. Imagine if Pam, Karen, Erin and Kelly were all in the same Office, that would be crazy.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/16/21 9:59:30 AM
#116
It's weird to think that Schur's first show was basically just an adaptation of a short lived British tv series, considering the guy went on to do 3 of the greatest comedies of all time: Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn 99, and The Good Place.

But I can see the influence of those later shows as the seasons go on.

I really like episodes that are just funny, without relying on cringe humor. Like the episode where there's a surplus in the budget and there's team new copier and team new chairs, with Michael just wanting a bonus for himself. Sure there's awkward moments, but not cringey. Just great humor especially from Jim and Pam. And Oscar, low-key has small lines here and there that really sell a scene
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/15/21 1:21:05 PM
#113
PiOverlord posted...
There was wisdom in that episode, mixed with buffoonery. I always thought Michael's final quote to Ryan was the best about "Good managers don't fire people, they hire and inspire people" along with the never made a sale retort he did. It's not exactly true, you have to know when to fire people, but firing people will never make a company become #1. There are times when a board of directors brings on a ceo specifically for the purpose of firing people... but that's to save a company. You need a ceo that understands the business theory that colleges try to teach (some failing, while others giving good gems of knowledge here and there) mixed with their own intuition and innovation to truly build a thriving company. The problem is, especially on the ground-level of business, business theory is not the sole weapon to use. You need personality and charisma, which obviously Ryan lacked. You may know the steps a good business should take, but I think we all know many "good steps" to take in life, but fail because of third variables.

Of course, business-theory is important. The many missteps Dunder Mifflin took is why they went backrupt. They had a lot of charismatic guys, but obviously had an old mindset. It's also the cause of many of the problems Michael Scott faces as a manager when he does make major errors with the clients as a manager rather than as a salesperson.

Yeah if Michael simply adapted to new technology and incorporated it in sales, he'd probably be out on top.

They showed he was a bit computer illiterate (and maybe just general illiterate?) in the beginning but as the seasons go on he seems to be a lot more adept at technology than previously. Simply adding technology with his own showmanship would make for a winning combination
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/15/21 12:37:20 PM
#112
pegusus123456 posted...

100% yes.

Oh ok never mind, there's literally an episode where Wallace is like "Michael, what are you doing right, your branch is selling the highest!"

These guys are incompetent incorporated
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/15/21 12:05:22 PM
#111
Ok I no longer think it's just a strong fan theory, I think the series overtly shows that the management at Dunder Mifflin are clueless as hell. I mean yeah you could say that simply promoting Michael to manager was evidence enough from the very first episode, but as the show goes on it truly reveals just how ineffectual and incompetent they are. It feels weird to hate idris elba so much. And to be reminded of one's own ineffectual, kissass boss...
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TopicSo will Shang Chi be what Iron Fist should have been?
saspa
08/15/21 12:32:25 AM
#42
dmaster342 posted...


I feel like the movie in general was..not very well received..? And any part associated with it lol.

I think most people were just not liking his appearance in it (like it wasn't comic-book accurate or something, CGI was not the best, etc.).

(I also said Iron Man 2 in my first post when it was Iron Man 3 I was meaning, couldn't edit my post lol, been a while since I've seen them).

The movie in general wasn't well received yeah true. I kinda liked tim roth though...

Also not many people remember but if they had made more Hulk movies, we would have gotten Phil Dunphy as Doc Samson!
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/14/21 5:09:05 PM
#110
Oh wow I forgot there wasn't just one but two The Wire alumni, Charles Minor was on The Wire as well

Painful to see Jim struggle so much with him, but must be very cathartic for all the supposed Jim haters.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/14/21 4:21:06 PM
#109
I was gonna say it's weird that the show gets so much better in the later seasons or gets better as it goes along, but then I realized it makes sense because the show was so bad with its cringe humor at the beginning that it had nowhere to go but up.
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/14/21 5:01:06 AM
#64
Goldice posted...


That wasn't over bigotry as far as I remember. Or rather creed being a bigot. Rather using racism to sell tickets

Creed was a showman. Since it was a replacement fighter on a short notice and there was no way they were getting a good replacement match, he figured the best way to boost numbers was to get an underdog boxer to serve as a "great white hope" against the black champion.

I think it was rumored that initially Creed was supposed to be based on Muhammad Ali in terms of talent and showmanship
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/13/21 2:56:08 PM
#108
Could people perchance be confusing Dwight with his cousin Moses on the beet farm regarding the mentally challenged theory? Although even he seems also just weird. Well, a little bit of column a, little bit of column b
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/13/21 2:22:05 PM
#106
Huh it took 5 seasons to introduce Holly. I recognize her, she's the likable character from The Wire who was too good for Mcnulty and didn't deserve his philandering. And she's extremely likable here. It took until her presence to make Michael go from annoying to "somewhat tolerable" to actually likable.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/13/21 1:30:04 PM
#104
I get that she was angry at Dwight for killing her cat and so dated Andy to get back at him initially, but then she was constantly cheating on Andy with Dwight, so it's like...?

Also is that what was happening with the cat, she was forcefully keeping it alive? I thought it was meant to show how Dwight had euthanizing trigger finger and was that type of person.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/13/21 1:12:51 PM
#102
Could someone explain Angela's horrible cheating on Andy with Dwight thing?

Like... why not just stop dating Andy? Why continue to do that? She's always been shown to be a bit of a grump, but this is a different kind of assholery not related to being a sourpuss. It's a whole nother level

I mean did they just do it to make Andy a more sympathetic character after his initial annoying debut?
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/12/21 5:56:51 AM
#99
You know it's kinda weird. When I first watched those episodes I was still in college. But watching them now... see I too worked at a company in the sales section years ago, and I also never made a sale. Then in a bizarre twist of fate as I was being transferred to corporate branch to work in HR, I got a call from a client who was asking about prices and wanted to sign with me, to make a sale. It was so weird, it was literally on the last day as I was transferring from sales to HR.

The show's constant jokes at Ryan never making a sale kind of got me thinking about that.

And while Michael is an idiot, I do agree with him when he tells the college class that Ryan has never made a sale in his life, so what does he know about business. The thing with business theories in those classes is that they're just that, theories. Stuff written down after they saw an example of that happening in the world. Success in a business class doesn't translate to real world success. A lot of businessmen in the world have never taken anything even resembling a class and they are successful merchants and sellers and the formula for success isn't always tried and true.

Just some rambling I was thinking while watching the show. Before it was just "haha Ryan wanted to embarrass Michael and got owned instead" but now it's actually "I've lived this somewhat, this almost applies to me"
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/12/21 5:17:12 AM
#93
I wonder though, is the fact that they went with Ryan as the corporate guy an example of Dunder Mifflin and David Wallace's low-key incompetence? Or maybe not so low-key. They hired a 20 something guy who was a temp and gave him Jan's job when it was clear that it was a high-entry position? Even a mid-level entry position is too much for a guy who has never made a sale.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/12/21 5:04:02 AM
#91
I personally like Jim and Pam of course. But Jim turning down a big promotion at corporate nyc to go back to Scranton to be with Pam is not a good career decision. You don't get many good opportunities often.

Also it's ironic because Pam ends up going to new york anyway to study so if he'd taken the job, they'd be together there, him earning a probably high salary and her experiencing nyc opportunities at being an artist
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/12/21 2:36:18 AM
#62
Irony posted...
Planet Vegeta turning out to have been destroyed by Freeza and not an asteroid with him saying it was an asteroid.

Is a plot twist really a retcon though? Hmm.
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TopicSo will Shang Chi be what Iron Fist should have been?
saspa
08/12/21 12:21:21 AM
#36
dmaster342 posted...
I've never seen Iron Fist, but i know they're trying to repent for the past sins with the Mandarin from Iron Man 2 days and Abomination from The Incredible Hulk days. Feels like it's the ultimate apology from those two.

What why. Why specifically Abomination, and what was wrong with him?
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TopicPixar's A Bug Life is based on Seven Samurai?
saspa
08/11/21 11:39:58 PM
#34
Serious Cat posted...

Some Shakespearean Henry IV/V trilogy too. I see that more than Hamlet.

So many Shakespeare stories I've always wanted to experience in some way or form. There's like, 8 different Henrys and he's written a story on almost all of them and I wonder what they're like
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TopicJust watched Ip Man for the first time. Amazing movie
saspa
08/11/21 12:35:16 AM
#24
Is kung fu not competitive?
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/10/21 2:07:43 PM
#89
How come Jim was afraid when Andy freaked out about having his stuff put in jello, when he wasn't afraid when Dwight freaks out about having his stuff in jello?

Especially since Dwight has weapons all around the office. Is Jim banking on the fact that Dwight would never actually hurt him with those weapons, while Andy would likely hurt someone if he ever found out about the location of the mace, nunchuks and sai Dwight keeps around the office?

Just wondering
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/10/21 5:48:17 AM
#40
indica posted...
Instead of watching the prequel, you should read the original sequel--it's fucking crazy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlight_Barking

I've skimmed the synopsis several times and I still have no idea what I was reading.

I like how Disney takes these stories and just adapts the cute factor but none of the weirdness. They did the same with Alice in Wonderland even
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/10/21 3:07:03 AM
#42
cuh posted...
I know people hate it (with valid reason, I must agree), but Dumbledore being gay actually makes his history withGrindelwald infinitely more interesting

That actually does make it interesting, and how he chose between siding with his lover or his family.

I wonder if those new terrible beast movies incorporate the gay thing since I heard grindewald is in it and dumbledore is in it. That would have been moderately interesting.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/09/21 8:19:43 AM
#88
I low-key feel bad for Meredith. Does anyone else feel like she might have been just as cute/attractive as Pam 40 years ago, but the years left her bitter and alcoholic and maybe she ended up marrying her own Roy, someone not right for her, and she ended up with a kid and a divorce?
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TopicJust watched Ip Man for the first time. Amazing movie
saspa
08/09/21 6:52:35 AM
#21
AsucaHayashi posted...


4th one.

which is funny because he's all about karate...

That makes me wonder. Not sure if Spoiler but are all 4 movies based on a true story or does it just go into fanfic territory later on?
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TopicSo will Shang Chi be what Iron Fist should have been?
saspa
08/09/21 5:57:22 AM
#30
BlueTigerLion posted...
Yes. Iron Fist kinda fucked up not hiring good fight choreographers. Which we know exist thanks to John Wick and Daredevil.

Man if they do martial arts with a steady camera and no annoying quick cuts, it would be amazing. I hate shaky cam and quick cut editing so much that I even prefer CGI over it
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TopicPixar's A Bug Life is based on Seven Samurai?
saspa
08/09/21 5:00:52 AM
#30
Derwood posted...
Wait until I inform you that The Lion King is just Hamlet in Africa

With a little bit of bible moses thrown in probably
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TopicAnybody here watch Westworld?
saspa
08/09/21 3:14:25 AM
#38
KnightofShikari posted...
season 1 was amazing. watched it as it came out, then binged it again. then rewatched it before season 2
season 2 fumbled a lot. i think someone said that redditors guessed the twist so they hastily rewrote it. if true, it shows. if it was a good twist keep it in, not everyone reads the subreddit. and besides, they probably had a million guesses so who cares if one was actually right
season 3 fumbled too, had some decent moments though. a little better than season 2

What twist are you referring to for season 2?
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Topicpng vs jpg
saspa
08/09/21 2:59:20 AM
#30
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
anything but webp

id rather have fucking bitmaps than webp or jfiff

fuck I hate the modern internet

What exactly is webp and is it related to webm?
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TopicAnybody here watch Westworld?
saspa
08/08/21 5:51:38 AM
#31
I'm still gonna watch season 4. The show is pretty terrible, but I'm just in it to see where they're possibly going with this.

First season was pretty good though. Anthony Hopkins is great as usual. And the premise was very intriguing.
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/08/21 5:20:43 AM
#39
SRR Capdown posted...


Mine is that if they were to do a sequel, The Baroness, having gone insane, escapes prison and becomes the Cruella we know. She kidnaps the real Cruella and the puppies and it becomes about rescuing both.

Huh. Apropos of nothing, would you happen to be a metal gear solid fan?
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/08/21 4:39:33 AM
#37
Kanaya413 posted...

Huh???

To put it in perspective, it's like when Community tried to claim clearly Indian Abed as being Palestinian, as if it's all "that same region of the world" to viewers, whether done ironically/intentionally as a joke or because Harmon really is just real-life Pierce (racist old out-of-touch white guy stereotype)
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/08/21 2:26:07 AM
#39
mooreandrew58 posted...


That is weird. How did he not fuck the whole timeline doing that. Unless he created an alternate timeline but then enlisted stark and others to help him jump back to the original time line just so he could do what he did at the end

Oh let's not even get into the whole messed up timeline, where to begin, it was quite clear they were going for a "just be quiet and enjoy it" vibe
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TopicBest episodes of House?
saspa
08/07/21 11:53:32 PM
#63
Cocytus posted...
They're all pretty good, but I really enjoy the one where they mixed up the patient's identity in a car wreck.

I watched an episode where it was a collapsed building, and they kept telling the boyfriend all this stuff he didn't know about his girlfriend, and then at the end... it turns out it was her friend, not his girlfriend at all. The shock was too much for him.
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TopicConsidering PSNow
saspa
08/07/21 11:33:15 PM
#25
DavidZ2844 posted...

The old God of War games (GoW 1-3, CoO, GoS, Ascension) that they have on the service are the remastered PS3 versions, and all the PS3 games they have on there must be streamed (cannot be downloaded and used offline at all).

Damn good thing I didn't use up my trial. I guess that basically settles it, it's a useless service. Shame
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TopicChronicle sequel in the works
saspa
08/07/21 1:41:09 PM
#9
Never got to watch it. I remember being very intrigued, but instantly put off by the shaky cam/found footage format which is always enough to discredit a movie
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TopicJake Gyllenhaal Admits That He Finds It Unnecessary to Shower Often
saspa
08/07/21 9:11:42 AM
#7
Europeans don't shower... they smell awful. Even though it's always freezing cold there and they don't sweat, it doesn't mean they shouldn't bathe themselves.

I actually always wondered about people who say they shower in 10 minutes. I'm always left scowling at that. What, do you just hop in the water, then quickly hop out? There's no way anyone can properly bathe themselves in that time. You'd need a full couple of minutes just to let the soap settle in the skin after vigorously scrubbing. And that's assuming you're only doing body and not also hair/shampoo care.

Also people who only have a shower head and not a shower hand are disgusting. How the hell do you clean your nether regions if you can't aim the nozzle directly under your body to that area. Not to mention improper anus cleaning with just a shower head.
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TopicSo will Shang Chi be what Iron Fist should have been?
saspa
08/07/21 9:05:53 AM
#4
Man Jessica Henwick was fire. She really helped to elevate Iron Fist somewhat.

Iron Fist's season 3 teaser was what the show should have been from the start: You had jessica henwick transforming the iron fist into an... Iron Sword, and you had Danny dual-wielding Iron Pistols/bullets. It was everything the show should have been and what I wanted out of a homage to 70s era kung fu films (just like how Luke Cage was supposed to be a homage to blaxploitation era films)
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TopicSo will Shang Chi be what Iron Fist should have been?
saspa
08/07/21 8:58:04 AM
#1
A fun wuxia type movie that's entertaining with likable characters? Reading some old topics that were hyped for Iron Fist and it hurt remembering that kinda disappointment.
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TopicPixar's A Bug Life is based on Seven Samurai?
saspa
08/07/21 6:25:03 AM
#22
MrToothHasYou posted...

Seven Samurai meets The Three Amigos, with bugs, yes. Sort of like how Galaxy Quest is Star Trek meets The Three Amigos.

Always confused 3 amigos with 3 stooges. When people refer to that are they referring to the steve martin movie?
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TopicJust watched Ip Man for the first time. Amazing movie
saspa
08/07/21 4:26:27 AM
#19
Atralis posted...


Even the first one is only 'based on a true story' in the sense that there was a martial artist named Ip Man that was in territory that was occupied by the Japanese during the war. None of the 'resisting the japanese with kung fu' plotline actually happened.

Honestly, when watching the movie I was wondering if they were gonna do that, but it's still not as egregious as say, Rocky 4 and Rocky ending the cold war in a boxing fight
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TopicThe Kroger's brand chewy chocolate chip granola bars is the best thing ever.
saspa
08/06/21 5:07:11 PM
#6
Not more than Quaker's though right?
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