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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 5:03:54 PM
#79
Don't get me wrong sometimes his pathetic crying is hilarious and I enjoy it. Like when he "accidentally" shares Jim's secret crush on Pam to everyone at the office and then begs Jim to forgive him and still remain his friend.

It's the perfect comedic blend of sad and annoying especially when Jim sighs and rolls his eyes in exasperation as Michael is about to cry and then comforts him while Michael is crying, as you would impatiently comfort a child that broke their favorite toy or something
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 4:54:54 PM
#74
You know what? There's an episode where Jim is working for the Stanford Branch and the manager there leverages his position for a better position at Staples, effectively leading to the closure of the branch. Jim shakes his head and goes "say what you will about Michael, but he would never do that"

And I'm like... yeah, obviously, because he's a buffoon and no big corporation would ever want him for such a position. Not because he's loyal. They wanted to show that Michael has noble qualities in that scene but he absolutely does not, he's the worst kind of spineless weasel. Like the time he kept a bonus check to himself instead of using the money to fix some problem at the office. He's selfish.

At least the Stanford manager was honest and said it straight to Jan's face that he was leaving Dunder Mifflin for a better job. Michael would have been the typical cowardly crybaby about it.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 4:33:10 PM
#70
dj1200 posted...
Michael was fucking hilarious. A classic Michael scene:

https://youtu.be/2SyWdbuEDNw

Is that the episode where Andy takes him out to Benihana? I kind of have a bone to pick with that episode. In the episode they're flirting with the waitress who for once isn't completely repulsed by Michael, and they invite them back to an office christmas party.

But then they show up with a completely different actress and I'm like erm what. I was so confused. Like they did a cast change within the very same episode or something? It's like they did It's Always Sunny's Lethal Weapon actor change before it was a thing (the whole switching who played Riggs and Murtough by Mac and Dennis)
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Topicnew Cobra Kai s4 promo; premiering in December
saspa
08/06/21 3:57:41 PM
#17
krazychao5 posted...
i think it's kinda bullshit that miguel healed in like less than a year from coma and paralysis and then he's able to fight again

Still better than fucking dark knight rises. Back healing due to rock concert is more entertaining than derp hanging from ceiling and judo chop spine into place like it's freaking Austin Powers. At least Cobra Kai was meant to be cheesy
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 3:54:46 PM
#65
I just feel really bad for Jan. I think the intention of the show is to try and get us to hate her, but I instead feel sorry for her. I really think Michael broke her. I'm reminded of a bit Louis CK said about how "guys fuck things up, and girls are fucked up."
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Topicnew Cobra Kai s4 promo; premiering in December
saspa
08/06/21 3:46:39 PM
#14
Can't wait, I only just caught up on season 3 a few weeks ago. Was weak and and a lot is riding on season 4 to pick up the slack and make up for season 3.

Not gonna watch the trailer since I consider promos spoilers, but saving it to watch after the season comes out.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 3:43:02 PM
#61
s0nicfan posted...


It's more that nobody actually expects anything of Michael. He's a useful idiot. Jan was always presented as competent and professional, but ultimately self serving and potentially grooming her secretary for sexual favors.

Hmm yeah I could see it that way. A further defense would be that Jan is just a pencil pusher at the end of the day, which a lot of people see as useless, while Michael is established as actually a great salesman at one point or another, so he'd indeed be a lot useful than just some corporate executive.
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TopicArrested Development is 18 years old?
saspa
08/06/21 3:40:09 PM
#3
What are you talking about the last season just came out 2 years ago XD

Yeah it definitely doesn't feel like yesterday, the show came at a very awkward time. Season 1 and 2 having so much devoted to the iraq and saddamn hussayn jokes really dates it, feels like watching south park.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 3:35:26 PM
#60
Michael on the other hand is more annoying in his whole hypocritical "dish it out but can't take it" mentality. He harasses Jan and other women constantly, but when Jan harasses him back and is sexually aggressive with him in turn, he's all upset about it. And yet continues to act immature and like a 4th grader despite being 40+.

His obtuse misogyny comes across way more aggravating than say, Todd Packer, who only appears in small doses and is so over the top in being awful that it comes back around as being almost funny, because everyone recognizes him as the worst. It's the same reason why It's Always Sunny cast is so great, like Dennis who's so damn terrible that it just works.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/06/21 3:27:11 PM
#57
Is David Wallace sexist? He likes Michael for some reason, and dislikes Jan. He calls out Jan for being self-destructive and crazy, but is fine with Michael's antics and incompetence. Always wondered if it was something like that
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TopicStargirl is a great show.
saspa
08/06/21 9:52:57 AM
#3
People said the same thing about Black Lightning... whiich I still haven't seen yet (been saving it for a rainy day)
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/06/21 6:46:42 AM
#36
In that case would you dislike Avengers Endgame with Captain America getting to live happily ever after with Peggy, effectively ruining a fundamental part of his tragic backstory?

Or like if Batman was able to go back in time and save his parents and they're all sitting by the campfire at christmas
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TopicBest episodes of House?
saspa
08/06/21 5:37:53 AM
#54
Is it just me or is the contestant premise of season 4 kinda fun actually? I liked that season as a teen, but didn't get to see all episodes.

One thing about the finale that I was wondering about though: Isn't the twist of Amber and Wilson dating weird? And isn't it super skeevy of Wilson to be dating one of House's students? Yet the show portrayed it as true love and Wilson being really heartbroken?

I mean even House rejected Cameron's advances.

Also was Amber well liked? I thought she was hated and considered a "bitchy" character
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TopicConsidering PSNow
saspa
08/06/21 4:48:09 AM
#20
Hayame Zero posted...
Eh, it's alright. Pre-PS4 stuff can only be streamed - which isn't very reliable - and there's not a great selection of older stuff either.

Oh crap what? So if someone wanted to play the old god of war games on any ps3/ps2 games, it has to be streamed? They can't download it for offline playing?

Need to know, I was also thinking of using up my one week free trial before this tidbit.
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Topicpng vs jpg
saspa
08/06/21 4:34:15 AM
#26
1337toothbrush posted...

In that case they could just restrict file size.

You mean like what gamefaqs does?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79600138

This is an example of a jpg being lossy right? The words are just barely legible
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/06/21 3:05:04 AM
#35
But yeah 101 Dalmatians being a simple cartoon movie makes it easier to swallow whatever retcons they throw compared to them ruining one of their classic Renaissance movies which is a lot more egregious.

Or ruining a classic villain by doing the star wars prequel thing of going "from my point of view the protagonists-of-the-previous-film are evil! Wah"

Or (I assume) copying Wicked's story of the Wicked Witch from Oz (a musical I still want to see someday if just out of curiosity)
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/06/21 2:49:53 AM
#31
Kami_no_Kami posted...
If youre into origin stories where the main character couldnt possibly turn into the same character from the original movie, its alright I guess.

I haven't seen Disney's other live action crap, but they're kinda all like that like as not.

Ironically I still think I could see this Cruella turning into the other Cruella, or at least I did back when I thought Cruella had like, 10-20 years on Roger and Anita. Them being the same age might make it a little harder? The assumption is that as the years go by and she's in her 40s and 50s, she becomes more embittered/alone and crueler, with her fashion being the one thing she can get right which is why she holds on to it so desperately.

That's my theory.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 4:22:06 PM
#41
Also I never understood people being upset at Michael being gone in later seasons, was he really who people were watching the show for? Was he not the worst part, with scenes where he's not in it acting cringey being better viewing?

Say what you will about Jim and Pam but Jim was much better to watch than Michael.

The guest season of bosses was certainly more entertaining, and bringing a weird, post Boston Legal David Spade into the mix was a treat; his entire presence felt off-kilter.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 4:13:17 PM
#40
I used to think Michael was unrealistic especially when it came to his idiocy but the pandemic really disillusioned me with the general populace. Quite a big majority are like Michael in some way or another. When he "accidentally" sent the email of topless Jan I wondered if maybe that's how Snapchat must have been created
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 4:05:21 PM
#37
Zanzenburger posted...
Yes, I was never able to get into The Office the way that I got into Parks and Rec. The characters in Parks and Rec are just so much more likeable which makes you want to root for them. Most people in The Office are unlikeable characters, and not in a fun way like in Always Sunny or Schitt's Creek.

The Office is basically like season 1 parks and rec, featuring exclusively Tom and... say, Jean-Ralphio, without any of the likable/endearing qualities that Tom later gains as the series goes on, and it went on for 9 seasons.

It works in Always Sunny due to the universe of the show, but the cringe "humor" of The Office doesn't work as well. It's more like individual scenes that are humorous here and there, rather than the whole being entertaining.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 4:00:11 PM
#34
pegusus123456 posted...
One thing to keep in mind too is that customers would only be exposed to Michael on sales calls. I can definitely see him being the kind of dude that's great in small doses but grating if you see him every day.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. On a sales call with Andy he was bonding with a client based on hobbies (whether true or not) and in that moment it seemed like he actually got it together.

He may have been a mixture of Dwight and Jim in his youth, a combination of persistent and just a teensy bit likable/charming
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 3:57:01 PM
#32
SRR Capdown posted...


You see him switch it on in the episode where him and Jan meet the guy at Chili's.

In another episode he has a whole binder full of cards with notes on the people he sells to, their family, likes and dislikes etc.

For whatever reason, he can switch on social awareness in these scenarios.

That Chilis episode was the first time we saw any level of competency from him, it was rather nice and surprising that first time we saw it. The audience and Jan both had that same expression
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 3:55:01 PM
#30
s0nicfan posted...


I think that largely came down to his obsession-level knowledge with other people. They always tried to highlight when he would go on a sales call that he knew the guy and his kids and all of his hobbies and was able to immediately engage with them on small talk that shows that he knew and cared about that person.

His obsession with being liked just worked well in that environment, but you can see where even that backfires when he goes around trying to win clients with gift baskets.

They've definitely shown that in episodes, I thin he's able to bond on a surface level, just enough to make a sale, but if you spend 8 hours with him all day every day the illusion kind of shatters.

So yeah I guess it makes sense.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 3:40:13 PM
#24
I wouldn't say I'm into the recent trend of calling Jim and Pam terrible people but... I wouldn't say I'm staunchly against it either.

I mean Pam was engaged and still flirting with Jim all the time so that's kinda not good at all....

Then you consider the fact that they made Karen likable (and worse, played by the wonderful Rashida Jones) which makes Jim seem like a bit of a jerk for stringing her along... it all adds up.

They're certainly no Ben and Leslie.

The Office really is like a worse Parks. It's like Schur worked out all the kinks from The Office to create a show with likable characters who you root for and definitely did away with the british, cringey style humor.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/05/21 3:14:56 PM
#15
Michael being annoyed by Andy is pretty perfect. Talk about getting a taste of his own medicine, someone should point out that that's exactly what he's like to everyone else, all the time.

Then again he'd probably be too obtuse to even appreciate the irony or have enough self-awareness to realize he's like that.

Then again then again I have a sneaking suspicion the reason he pretends to hate Dwight is because he secretly hates himself so he hates anyone like Dwight who would actually like him.
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TopicPixar's A Bug Life is based on Seven Samurai?
saspa
08/04/21 10:53:52 PM
#19
Pixar did it but with a twist. Instead of just straight up fighting, they did a comedic thing as well as to try and highlight flick's ingenuity with the whole fake bird thing which I think is better to show kids creative problem solving rather just straight up fighting and brawling.
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TopicJust watched Ip Man for the first time. Amazing movie
saspa
08/04/21 9:05:37 PM
#15
Is Man of Tai Chi part of the series or something else entirely?
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TopicBest episodes of House?
saspa
08/04/21 6:19:40 AM
#52
AsucaHayashi posted...


he wasn't amnesiac but had mirror syndrome iirc. probably exaggerated for dramedy but he was the patient that copied the personality of every one else he came in contact with.

OK which season/episode was this? I haven't been able to find it yet
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TopicSo... is Jungle Cruise gonna be Disney's answer to Jumanji?
saspa
08/04/21 5:00:11 AM
#20
NOM posted...
It was pretty good. Had a couple of those feminism girl powah moments I can't stand in modern movies though.

Yeah don't you just hate seeing characters that are not straight white males...
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Topicpng vs jpg
saspa
08/04/21 12:39:45 AM
#22
uwnim posted...

Sometimes a png will end up smaller.

jpg is lossy. Should be used for like photos and other things with large amounts of different colors. png is not lossy and should be used for images with few colors or important details that could be lost with a lossy image format.

What I've noticed is some places don't allow upload of png but instead demand jpg, probably because it's smaller
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/04/21 12:07:33 AM
#28
Another thing that made me raise an eyebrow is if the baroness didn't want a baby, why didn't she just get an abortion and pass it off as a miscarriage like in godfather 2. Why wait the full term, all 9 months, and the delivery, just to say "oh butler, go kill it"

I mean obviously Disney is probably not going to address a hot button issue like abortion in their movies, but in-universe wise.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/03/21 11:31:21 AM
#4
It's weird to imagine that Michael was an excellent salesman when his antics as a manager are so annoying, so it's hard to believe that he'd be remotely charming or skilled as a sales rep.
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TopicThe Office is quite infuriating to watch.
saspa
08/03/21 11:13:15 AM
#1
Imagine if Leslie Knope was as annoying as Michael Scott, Parks and Recreation wouldn't be watchable. Can't understand people's fandom of The Office
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TopicJust watched Ip Man for the first time. Amazing movie
saspa
08/03/21 1:12:18 AM
#10
I was thinking what I'd do is watch one movie from the series every week or so, to really absorb each one. I was already a fan of donnie yen and had a feeling I'd like him
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TopicPixar's A Bug Life is based on Seven Samurai?
saspa
08/02/21 11:18:28 PM
#16
Donomark posted...
As you probably guessed, although the setup is similar, there are stark difference:

Unlike in Seven Samurai, the bugs who are assembled to take care of the village are frauds, they're not legitimate fighters. So, that's part of the story, the fact that they have to own up to their falsehood.

It's not 1:1, but the fact that it's also "bandits" who will come after "the next harvest" to take the villagers' food really cements it
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/02/21 2:02:39 PM
#5
g0ldie posted...
it's been a while, but didn't MGS3 have a bunch of retcons since the original MG games didn't flesh out some stuff in relation to Big Boss?

if so, then that.

It's funny you bring that up, I played the Metal Gear games first so mgs 3 was weird
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TopicTimes when a retcon actually made a piece of story retroactively better?
saspa
08/02/21 1:37:07 PM
#1
Any spring to mind?
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TopicSo... is Jungle Cruise gonna be Disney's answer to Jumanji?
saspa
08/02/21 1:15:12 PM
#15
Damn all these posts about it being like Pirates of the Caribbean. Were Disney really trying to capture lightning in a bottle again?

Heck even the mummy reboot failed. And let's not even get started on indiana jones
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TopicSo... is Jungle Cruise gonna be Disney's answer to Jumanji?
saspa
08/02/21 12:53:38 PM
#12
^ ^ Nope it's essentially Sony owned
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TopicTrying to watch Cruella. This movie gonna be terrible or so bad it's good?
saspa
08/02/21 9:21:58 AM
#26
Dark Summoner posted...


I think it had more to do with the fact that everyone knew Cruella and Baroness were fueding...there was also probably rumors floating of Baronnesses dogs being stolen...two and two equal four. Remember when Baroness does a "public event" she always has the dogs with her.


That makes sense yeah, good point
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Topicpng vs jpg
saspa
08/02/21 1:24:51 AM
#19
uwnim posted...
Absolute worst thing is when people use jpg for an image with lots of text and then the text is all blurry cause of jpg being so lossy.

Whenever I save something, it ends up being png cause it works much better for my needs.

This one really bothers me
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TopicWatching Pirates of The Caribbean 2 and wtf at (spoilers)
saspa
08/02/21 1:15:05 AM
#65
Dragon Angel X2 posted...


There are a few deleted scenes that make the third movie make more sense. Like Elizabeths dad being murdered makes more sense if you understand what really happened.

The only part about the original trilogy I can say I dont like is the part where Jack is by himself in the Locker. I always skip that part.

Hope I have that scene on my DVD, but if not what exactly happened there?
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Topicbrooklyn nine nine
saspa
08/02/21 12:53:32 AM
#6
Yeah that's over a week from now, it's too early for hype. I'm gonna wait until the entire season has aired and then binge the whole thing
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TopicMatt Damon thinks the age of the movie star coming to an end.
saspa
08/01/21 1:05:50 PM
#17
Most of us on this website grew up in the age of the movie star so we probably won't get it, so it'd probably be best to ask a gen z'er and those younger generations.

Eg some people are saying they should just recast Black Panther, but every time I see him in Civil War I cry every time.
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Topic"Hentai is brilliant, yes" - contestant wins TV show with hentai
saspa
08/01/21 1:03:32 PM
#12
TopicMatt Damon thinks the age of the movie star coming to an end.
saspa
08/01/21 12:58:53 PM
#6
The age of the movie star is over. The time of the brands and franchise properties has come.

Cookie for reference
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Topic"Hentai is brilliant, yes" - contestant wins TV show with hentai
saspa
08/01/21 12:49:07 PM
#9
"So yes, I would call that bad game design"

Anyone have the origin of that quote?
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TopicPixar's A Bug Life is based on Seven Samurai?
saspa
08/01/21 12:47:22 PM
#1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Samurai

Huh. Here I thought it was based on the grasshopper and the ant...
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