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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
Lopen
06/25/19 7:55:25 PM
#66
Himself. His claim has more weight now than when it would when forced into a fakeclaim, particularly when he has an excuse for it to be topically revealed cause "look more Harry Potter characters"

Protecting himself is literally the only point of the claim at this point. That's why it's suspicious. Well that and I don't really buy the ability uses.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 485: It's Such Good Shit
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06/25/19 7:53:56 PM
#429
Who's ready for Jinder vs Mojo main events from the ARMBAR history after WWE falls to regional I can't wait.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
Lopen
06/25/19 7:51:34 PM
#64
Lea3Lea posted...
If you want to talk town vs scum game actions, Lolo sidling in and claiming protection makes him look "good" like town power there, but does nothing whatsoever to help town catch scum. Additionally, I question why a back up weak protection would target 5tar N2.


YES.

Vote Lolo people. That was not a town claim at all.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 1
Lopen
06/25/19 7:50:26 PM
#12
Dante
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
Lopen
06/25/19 7:49:41 PM
#62
If you think Tom and Pez are both scum why not vote Tom? You know, the one who has actually gotten some arguments to lynch and such?
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks 90s Horror Films - Do you like ranking scary movies?
Lopen
06/25/19 5:25:06 PM
#99
Arachnophobia now that's a kind of dumb that I never appreciated even in a "leave it on as noise" kinda way. Probably my #39. Something about the movie always bugged me. Probably a combination of the pacing and not having much fear of spiders in general.
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 45: Now with 100% more Odin
Lopen
06/25/19 5:14:31 PM
#180
I have around 350 as well. Plan is Rydia until I get her awakening, rest on Seph+Agrias
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TopicBest Final Fantasy 8 Playable character Day 6
Lopen
06/25/19 5:12:33 PM
#4
Darn I was hoping Laguna Kiros and Ward would make it to the final 6. 3 against 3.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 4:17:35 PM
#441
If I were Voldemort and someone claimed Harry I would inherently be somewhat suspicious given the subject matter is broad. Whether I actioned that suspicion would be a matter of whether I suspected the one who claimed. In particular given it's Voldemort and is suspicious regardless, keeping head down there is not inherently scummy if not wanting to catch Hb
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 4:09:47 PM
#436
What made spew analysis good was the analysis not the spew. I think you've lost sight of that.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 3:54:02 PM
#420
Lea3Lea posted...
did anyone pull up his reaction to HB already?


Camarija posted...
Lopen posted...
Camarija posted...
I didn't see HB's claim


One last time: Are you really sticking with this?


Dude yes

I have no reason to lie

I'm Town


I looked into it and found it plausible he missed it as I could find no direct reactions. Although, given the amount talk it got at the end of topic 2 and his posts no later than 2 hours after, I do have a suspicion he willfully avoided the issue more than actually missed it. I don't necessarily think that's a scumtell though if he was already paranoid about his role being perceived as scum, assuming he had some trust of Hbthebattle going in, which I need to look into.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 3:39:42 PM
#410
Chris said to sheep me first but I'll let you have the best town role if you really want it.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 2:38:29 PM
#369
That being said I do agree with the statement as it relates to Cam as he wasn't already in the hole.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 2:38:02 PM
#368
benjamin3740 posted...
Real scum don't intentionally make themselves look bad. Cam and Lolo are town


They do if they're already in the hole all the time. Hell we literally just saw a claim from Red that made him look worse as a calculated risk.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:37:59 PM
#331
Also I'm not a lightning rod that's stupid

I just live the lightning rod lifestyle. It's good day 1 play.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:36:51 PM
#329
Here's my thinking why scum Lolo would do this.

1. Sees suspicion of Hb and Cam, knows they're not scum, thinks it's likely one of them gets lynched today.
2. Knows he has some lingering eyes on him
3. Pre-emptively gets a claim out with the idea that it's safer to fakeclaim now, and that Hb and Cam flipping will validate his claim in a way

Keep in mind point 3 is not something I agree with but I do feel like it's a thought process that could run through his head.

##Unvote
##Vote: Lolo


Seems like the best course currently. I'll have to read Lolo's posts though to see if there's another reason I can justify this move from town Lolo.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:29:19 PM
#316
I think if the only argument you see against Lolo is flavor based you're dumbing it down. The question is not whether three Harry Potter characters would possibly exist as much as why a town player would feel necessary or beneficial to claim at that time, and that same reasoning goes for Corrik, who for all his shining of lights on the game only really confirmed himself.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:23:43 PM
#308
And yeah Lolo's claim potentially reads a lot like a scummy player trying to rationalize pre-emptively getting a claim on the table before they're forced to to add credibility. I don't see a reason for a town Lolo to claim BG there.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:22:18 PM
#306
I could see Corrik and Lolo both being scum honestly. Corrik is jumping to all sorts of conclusions about his role's effectiveness that I don't like. Seems overly eager to "confirm" himself rather than trying to reason out how kill spread should have gone.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:12:09 PM
#294
Hmm. Nope. I don't think your interpretation of events is accurate. That means scum used their N2 kill on dowolf? I don't see that as being likely. Dowolf (and scare before him imo) seem more like SK kills to me. I don't think scum with all the targets they have think removing a confirmed town with nothing else really going for him is the strongest play.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 1:00:35 PM
#280
Lolo why protect Chris night 1 then not protect him night 2?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:51:30 AM
#190
Gut Lopen agrees with Gut Tom as previously stated but you need to vote Cam as per our agreement
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:40:22 AM
#169
Alright I believe Cam. Let's move on.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:33:27 AM
#155
Camarija posted...
I didn't see HB's claim


One last time: Are you really sticking with this?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:21:50 AM
#136
I don't think you caught any scum. In fact I'd call it a stretch to say even Chris caught two (I caught red he was just being the extension of my will) at this point.

But yeah my read is that of Puns at this point. Voldemort, TOWN Baby.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:05:51 AM
#103
Lopen posted...
1. Are you Voldemort?
2. Are you actually a TOWN opera singer?
3. Did Hb's claim elicit any reaction from you?

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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:05:04 AM
#101
Hb is the obvious natural lynch target right now

Especially considering the flavor of the claimed vanillas right now. Harry Potter sticks out like a sore thumb.

But Cam is going to pull an Ulti play and throw a tantrum I guess.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:03:50 AM
#97
Cam if you're town answering my questions helps you.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 11:01:37 AM
#90
Cam last chance before I start investigating your play this game taking Voldemort as your claim.

1. Are you Voldemort?
2. Are you actually a TOWN opera singer?
3. Did Hb's claim elicit any reaction from you?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:58:37 AM
#87
I refuse to believe a scumteam with Luis on it would vouch for this play being +EV
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:56:33 AM
#84
Why are you playing like a jester all of the sudden?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:53:42 AM
#80
Camarija posted...
the most Town cleared player


What is this based on?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:51:02 AM
#76
LMAO Voldemort town opera singer

That's amazing. Are you seriously going with that, Cam?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:47:33 AM
#65
HB claimed Harry late topic 3 iirc. We had a 6 man wagon on him at the time so checking vote records will help to some extent.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:45:23 AM
#57
Side note how many villagers do we think is likely in a 21 person game?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:43:47 AM
#53
Lea - Doom the Gyarados, villager
Ben - Sam I am, villager
Hbthebattle - Harry Potter, villager
Cam - Voldemort, ???
5tar - some sort of flavor scanner
Punz - some sort of King James miller he's half (all?) abandoned anyway

To my knowledge
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:38:41 AM
#47
Hbthebattle claimed Harry Potter as a villager
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban
Lopen
06/25/19 10:35:45 AM
#43
Camarija posted...
I am Voldemort from Harry Potter

AND I'm Town

If your flavor scanning has any indicators of alignment, then it's obviously not 100% correct

Also, it really feels like Corrik was trying to tip me off here that Mafia flavor scanned me or something


I'm not sure why the suspicion is on the flavor scanner if you're Voldemort and not the Harry Potter claim. Do you really think Harry Potter gets two slots in the game?

Has anyone in the game had another character from their book series flip yet? I know I haven't.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/25/19 12:37:56 AM
#348
I'm going to bed.
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TopicSome streamers are playing a new secret Capcom Trading Card Game
Lopen
06/25/19 12:35:59 AM
#14
Yeah this game looks maybe decent? But Max is an idiot so it makes it look like random chaos.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/25/19 12:15:27 AM
#336
Tom Bombadil posted...
They were both kinda doing that all the first day or two though right?


Sure, but this was the first truly meaty lynch I think. I feel like random hoppers should potentially get less of a pass, depending. Like I said, it's something I want to look into.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/25/19 12:10:40 AM
#326
pezloco posted...
Don't bury the lede, who jumped off red and went to MZero? This only matters if those people look scummy themselves.


Ben and Lea both jumped with little fight or thought. Both talking about scum watcher, also, which I found doubly weird. It was very suspicious to me at the time. When I actually want to do research on the day I'm going to look into both.
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 45: Now with 100% more Odin
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06/25/19 12:07:58 AM
#174
I think I'll actually go for the Magic DPS one, pending inspection of the list. Physical I'm pretty stacked on every element for USBs though.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/25/19 12:07:07 AM
#314
I trust MZero's platter. Let's do it.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/25/19 12:05:24 AM
#311
MZero's been pushed weakly reliably, without any real attempt to build the case. Just yelling about it. Also two people who jumped off red went to him.

I dunno he seems like a scumpark lynch to me. It's the reason why Ben has suspicion from me at this point (unfortunately that reason was too logic driven for gut to abide). And you, to a lesser extent, but I'm letting you resolve yourself.

As for SBell, Mr. Gut Man wants him to perish for that but Mr. Logic Man says I should actually confirm what Mr. Gut Man tells me first... but... but...

##Unvote:
##Vote: SBell


I can't stop him.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/24/19 11:59:31 PM
#303
If we're to crossover into the land of logic, as much as my gut hates it, I feel like SBell was actually posting more attempts at content before getting suspicions, then coasted into a decline after doing so.

I'm not sure that's an accurate recollection, however. I'll have to look into it.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/24/19 11:57:55 PM
#301
Lea3Lea posted...
Red basically claimed scum when he claimed Watcher (to the good players)


My GUT says you're trying to flatter me to get me to join your lynch but I simply can't support an MZero lynch.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/24/19 11:56:13 PM
#299
I thought he was too once she claimed but consider before the claim. Do you think she should've felt a reason to feel "pegged?" Do you think she was his lean before that?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/24/19 11:53:54 PM
#294
Also would you call Lea "pegged?" Lea was one of five candidates at the time iirc.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action
Lopen
06/24/19 11:53:17 PM
#293
Tom Bombadil posted...
At the very least you don't run the risk of it being straight countered.


Come on. Counter Doom? You kiddin me?
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