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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:56:00 PM
#201
Sbell would be my #4 assuming by some catastrophe I'm wrong about Lolo.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:54:49 PM
#194
Remaining scum

1. Lolo
2. Ben
3. Lea

I feel real good about this set honestly.

Corrik as SK

Lock it up. Be the extension of my will.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:53:04 PM
#182
Seriously who trusts Ben. Why on earth would you.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:52:16 PM
#179
Between MZero and Lolo I would ask how many you think are town on each lynch. Follow your heart.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:51:15 PM
#172
Anyway I read page 2 like a good boy. Thusly I read 100% of the game.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:50:32 PM
#170
pezloco posted...
WTF Lopen. Are you trying to throw shade at Tom for confidence levels? Or is the joke going over my head?


I'm a learning computer. One that will win at sacrifice.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:47:50 PM
#158
By the way if I die tonight and there are two night kills I've calculated Corrik to be the Serial Killer at 81.99% likelihood.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:45:59 PM
#147
Hey Tom what's up. Did I miss anything on page 2 of this topic.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:45:31 PM
#146
I calculated they lie 83% of the time, meaning at BEST that claim has a 12.58% chance of winnin at sacrifice.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/26/19 8:43:36 PM
#139
Yeahhh son. LOLO. GET LOLO.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 2:47:46 PM
#419
Tom Bombadil posted...
(lookin' at you cam and lopen)
(because I will suspect you will not understand that this is a joke)


How dare you I have never interrogated you over a joke.

Also getting off Mzero is legit good advice
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 45: Now with 100% more Odin
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06/26/19 2:28:49 PM
#189
Meanwhile Zidane has been on like 2 banners I like ever, I make a point to avoid him, and I still have a mostly complete Zidane from luckies/lotr
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TopicWhich was a bigger disappointment considering the original, Zelda 2 or Mario 2?
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06/26/19 2:03:58 PM
#10
Both superior to the originals
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 11:05:26 AM
#350
pezloco posted...
Anyway, you mentioned a conventional protection in your assessment.


I think the doc having mad yomi was the most likely explanation yes.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 11:02:45 AM
#347
htaeD posted...
Does Mzero really make you that mad Lea? It feels kinda forced to caps lock now.


I like this.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:57:45 AM
#341
Tom Bombadil posted...
He wasn't?


Mafia doesn't shoot confirmed with no ability early. SK, particularly when town is ahead, cares more about those because they need to have anyone but them be the lynch target. Mafia would sooner be shooting at random targets that haven't claimed and are generally trusted in hopes that they hit a power role, or trying to play chicken with the doctor and shoot Chris/5tar.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:55:28 AM
#339
And I completely agree with MZero's nonclaiming here. It doesn't seem inevitable to me. The argument on him is non-existent and applies to 1/4 the game, and applies to people with actual other good arguments on them (LOLO). You'll all get bored and scatter around to a bunch of targets when the going gets tough.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:54:41 AM
#337
pezloco posted...
I took prevented as in they targeted Chris and there was a doc save of some form.

What kind of prevented did you think?


They targeted someone else and the doc had mad yomi?

They targeted a bulletproof?

Town roleblocker? How should I know.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:51:42 AM
#332
pezloco posted...
If you're arguing scum doesn't have a strongman or any form of extra kill, then there's no way they target Chris night 1. Without a strongman why would they save the obvious protection target? You're only explaining part of the game.


Where did I say they targeted Chris night 1? I said their kill was prevented somehow.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:41:47 AM
#321
Like you can say Scare makes sense, and I would disagree with you greatly but you can make the argument.

But dowolf isn't a logical mafia kill either. SK definitely seems more likely considering both nights.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:39:46 AM
#320
I know he was. I'm pretty confident he wasn't. Red isn't going to kill scare inheriting that slot night 1.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:32:20 AM
#318
Also if you want my theory, and why I think Corrik's role is somewhat irrelevant at the moment

Night 1. SK killed scare
Mafia Kill was outright prevented somehow
Han is a good host and doesn't have strongman in every damn game

Night 2. SK killed dowolf
Mafia Killed Chris

That seems more likely than stalling. Mafia killing dowolf seems extremely unlikely to me. Probably we have actual protection + corrik's thing, and there's no bodyguard at all.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/26/19 10:27:09 AM
#315
Lolo is a good lynch even if Corrik misunderstood his role. If he didn't the stupidity in the interaction of those two roles is gravy.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 1
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06/25/19 11:39:06 PM
#103
Clayface
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:56:44 PM
#158
Would you call Pez's style of posting similar to Luis's?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:42:24 PM
#150
I'm just not sure why you're trusting scum that has been fake when he says Scum Tom + Town Pez is impossible
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TopicFinal Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 45: Now with 100% more Odin
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06/25/19 10:39:51 PM
#185
Went 1/11 and got Serah's USB

Not one I particularly wanted but could be worse.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:33:57 PM
#141
benjamin3740 posted...
I'm already convinced Pez is scum given the fakeness of his posts. I'm grilling Tom because I need to resolve him harder in my head and find out if they're buds or not. Again, Scum Tom + Town Pez is impossible because of what Pez has been posting all game. That's already figured out


Also I hope you're aware of the inherent absurdity of this post, right? Tell me you're being funny.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:31:38 PM
#138
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks 90s Horror Films - Do you like ranking scary movies?
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06/25/19 10:30:51 PM
#120
It is exploitative, but it does just enough to try and hide it that I can accept it and I'm okay with it and will shamelessly enjoy my softcore porn horror.

Well okay enjoy is strong but... it doesn't offend me or make me feel like my intelligence is being insulted, at least. That's all I ask.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:25:52 PM
#134
I think that you went for Pez but have been grilling Tom more and seem to have a more solid case on Tom really isn't a good look. Combined with your red lynch reactions and dowolf chaos wagoning your votes just tell too ugly a story for me to ignore at this point.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:23:04 PM
#127
Ulti must you.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:18:59 PM
#123
Really don't like how Benjamin is continually steering lynches to causes that are dead in the water without really trying to build a case, rather than consolidating lynches.

1. Lolo
2. Ben
Distant 3. Tom
Distanter 4. SBell

These are the acceptable lynches to me today. I accept nothing else at the moment.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:11:03 PM
#115
MZero doesn't need to claim. Lolo is just as inactive and has claimed weak protection so there is not a lot of risk to lynching him. Let MZero continue to use his juicy power role under the cloak of suspicion
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 1
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06/25/19 10:06:44 PM
#73
Jafar
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 10:05:54 PM
#107
I recall a game on b8 where three people claimed miller day 1 and sure enough one was scum. I think it was the second miller in that case but yeah-- took a long time to resolve the claims too. Scum claiming something implausible under confusion in an attempt to look better later isn't anything new or particularly suicidal. Claims like that take a good while to be punished. Still think the long game for Lolo was he knows the other two Potter claims are legit and wants them to "clear" him.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 9:15:37 PM
#102
A gambit implies some risk. It is not a gambit. It's scum making an excuse to get their fakeclaim out early. Happens all the time.
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks 90s Horror Films - Do you like ranking scary movies?
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06/25/19 9:09:17 PM
#114
For me the big difference is Inviso didn't talk aspects of the film up or make any attempt to be taken seriously whatsoever.

Like I didn't even get that Inviso was saying he hated spiders. It was just a dumb one line write-up that I could just as well have made my write-up for the movie, cause John Goodman is the highlight of the movie!

Also like, the relative frequency and importance to what the movie is doing. If you hate spiders and they're all over, that's one thing. If you hate nudity and moles and they're in one scene (again, not sure this was the case with moles, but it wouldn't surprise me!), that's another.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 1
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06/25/19 9:01:05 PM
#46
Loki
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks 90s Horror Films - Do you like ranking scary movies?
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06/25/19 9:00:13 PM
#111
Well I'm just saying there's a difference between "I hate this movie because it had spiders and I hate spiders" and a paragraph about what the movie did well and then dunking it at the end because it had nudity, which Wickle totally did a few times last time I followed along with one of these. I remember actually arguing (or agreeing with someone else's argument) that the nudity actually enhanced an important plot point in Terminator.

But really, are these rankings actually meant to be objective to begin with?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:52:32 PM
#94
I'm not saying I assume he thinks that. I'm saying it's a calculated risk with the amount of claims on the table to verify. And if he's scum they can mitigate that risk by prioritizing 5tar as a kill too.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:49:05 PM
#91
To be fair Tom has been pretty consistent with his sliding suspicions around from town to neutral to scum and scum to neutral to town

I want to know where you were yesterday when I was saying that way of thinking didn't make sense
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TopicGauntlet Crew Ranks 90s Horror Films - Do you like ranking scary movies?
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06/25/19 8:46:58 PM
#107
Haven't seen this mole stuff but I'd imagine it's probably Wickle's amount of rationalization in his write-up vs Inviso's if Wickle's dumb "DA NUDITY" write-ups from the last one of these I followed was true. I didn't even clearly get that interpretation from Inviso's write-up cause it was so short
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:41:58 PM
#88
Lolo is always on the table, even if he doesn't have votes, because of his lurky play, and the flavor gave him an excuse to claim early. That's all there is to it. There are currently 3 potter targets to scan so the odds of 5tar getting to him before he perishes is unlikely.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:39:20 PM
#82
24 hours 20 minutes left
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:37:36 PM
#80
Ah Corrik pulling one of his swerve votes again. How quaint.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:36:35 PM
#79
I agree. The suspicion on Lolo is not the excess of Harry Potter references. Lynching Hb doesn't resolve my suspicions of Lolo whatsoever no matter what he flips.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:09:30 PM
#75
I mean I don't see how you could possibly think it was not a safe claim, that it would somehow draw suspicion. The proof is in the pudding. Dude has received 3 votes after he's had an entire game of lurking for it-- if it was the type of claim that draws suspicion out of the box I guarantee you he'd get more than that.

Bodyguard is one of the safer power roles to claim too because it gives no information and is just uncommon enough that getting countered is unlikely.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:01:31 PM
#73
UltimaterializerX posted...
Do you think scum makes the same mistake twice in one game? You literally called Red's claim fake immediately and were proven right.


I'd argue Red made the correct play regardless of whether I called it correctly. This is not a town full of 14 Lopens and I don't have enough force of will/drive to convince everyone it's nonsense.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events
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06/25/19 8:00:13 PM
#71
Is it, though? If you see the writing on the wall that you're going to have to claim soon, and you've done nothing to gain the favor of town thus far, it makes more sense to get it out of the way now.

Like what was he gambling, really? He's seen how spineless this town is with claimed power. He should be feeling good about his chances.
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