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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/28/19 12:13:52 AM
#223
I think there are other scanners and you're not one of them.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/28/19 12:12:47 AM
#221
pezloco posted...
In fact I've repeatedly said this was a good calculated risk.


Are you scum?

No?

Then it's a poor risk. You don't square peg an argument on a town unless you actually have something that you can explain better than gut.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/28/19 12:11:56 AM
#219
Also I came to the same conclusion as Pez. Good old fashioned detective work on my end, though. Not some lame ass role like he's using.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/28/19 12:10:29 AM
#217
The obvious is you haven't played this claim like a real claim at all. Pez is overconfident in his reads and thinks you're stupid town. I know better.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/28/19 12:05:22 AM
#213
Btw Sam I Am as insane cop makes no sense. Paranoid cop kinda worked but he zoned himself out of that one with a town scan on Tom. So when Pez or Death flip town, please lynch Ben. Do not assume he's insane.

Thanks. I'm going to bed now. @Tom_Bombadil
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/28/19 12:01:28 AM
#211
Yeah but dead scum can only suggest courses of action. Not being alive, if the other players are paniced or silly chaos will still reign.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:59:26 PM
#206
Lolo doesn't die tomorrow and Corrik says he goofed, we lynch Lolo, then Corrik is "cleared" because we've seen "evidence" of his role and he supported lynching scum. He also avoids Lolo getting lynched today, theoretically causing a mislynch today rather than a scum lynch.

I will admit that I'm least confident in Corrik of the 4 there. It seems in the wheelhouse of the scumteam without the cooler heads red and luis still there though. Gambits all over, man.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:54:23 PM
#199
Ben
Lolo
Corrik
Constable Cam

That's your scumteam.

Lock em up lock em up lock em up.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:51:05 PM
#188
I think we just towncleared 3 guys with Ben's ill fated gambit. The scan choices don't follow his actions in game, and I just gave you some sweet scum moves that make it +EV to lie here.

The problem is convincing people to disbelieve the claimed power role is impossible. Because the town is full of cowards.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:49:38 PM
#185
I guess that's true. You could lynch me after both of them.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:48:32 PM
#180
If we lynch Pez or Death and they flip scum you have my blessing to lynch me.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:46:41 PM
#178
So let's see here.

Second gambit

Pez or Death flips town -> oh crap I'm insane let's lynch Tom -> Tom flips town -> LOL SUCKERS

Is that one good?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:42:34 PM
#160
pezloco posted...
He just showed that insane and paranoid are both off the table in my opinion.


Yeah because I scared him out of it by mapping out his gambit before he did it.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 3
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06/27/19 11:41:05 PM
#59
Jafar (on time)
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 3
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06/27/19 11:40:37 PM
#57
Jafar
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:39:41 PM
#150
Oh and technically the claim he'd use is not insane cop but paranoid cop, I believe

Whichever one scans everything as guilty.

Because it's Sam I Am I hate all players Sam I Am I do not like them Sam I Am
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:36:41 PM
#140
Pez are you seriously thinking that's a town play even having the gambit spelled out for you? Seriously?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:34:42 PM
#132
Now the question that's really important is there any scum role that like, can change what a lynch flips as. Because that would make his gambit that much more insidious. He could in theory get two mislynches if that existed. (Does it exist?)
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:32:30 PM
#123
He wouldn't. But I'm explaining Ben's gambit. The flavor is perfect, isn't it?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:30:58 PM
#118
Does Sam I Am sound like a sane cop to you? He hates everything.

But, it's too on the nose, as well. It's not a real insane cop role because it'd be too obvious. But it's what he'll use when his guilty scan flips as town.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:28:29 PM
#110
I think just killing you now resolves it better. You should claim the third scam-- ha oh I mean scan, before you're lynched, just to be safe.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:27:13 PM
#104
Smart move Hbthebattle. I agree with this play.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:24:47 PM
#98
I didn't say it about 5tar's!
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:22:55 PM
#94
Ben that is really boring, you know. I wanted a duel. Without Harry Potter interfering. I don't need him.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:21:58 PM
#88
Go too deep into the rabbit hole and my dragon punch will crush you
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:21:17 PM
#86
He's lightly implying I'm scum. But he doesn't have the guts to actually do it yet. He has to think about it.

My zoning game is just a bit too strong. I get it.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:20:19 PM
#81
benjamin3740 posted...
What do you want a hint for?


I'm bad at logic puzzles.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:15:29 PM
#74
Cam enabling anti-town behavior from scum

Scumwolf confirmed.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:14:14 PM
#70
Who's threatening you? We need a hint as to who the third scum is.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:12:17 PM
#63
No, reveal the third scan now. We all know who it is, right?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:10:42 PM
#58
Actually you kill Lolo first since you need to confirm he's scum for speculation on his votes to have value
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:08:50 PM
#52
I've lurked many games and have only seen Ulti do it.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:07:39 PM
#48
You know I could've guessed it was a meme if literally anyone else ever did that

I guess Ulti is the only one who thinks it's still funny
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 11:05:29 PM
#44
Let me tell you how Occam's Razor actually works

1. Guy got 3 straight scum scams in a field of roughly 1/3-1/4 scum, one of which on a guy he showed little to no suspicion on
2. Guy is lying in a game about deception and roughly 1/3-1/4 of the players are out to deceive

Occam's Razor solution to the problem is actually the second option. Crazy, I know!
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:59:54 PM
#34
Occam's razor btw Ulti

Then again how often you misuse it maybe just leaving the spelling wrong fits
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:56:38 PM
#29
I gave a pretty good theory for the non-kill. Corrik could also be claiming targets that suit his purposes to make his claim ironclad.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:53:31 PM
#20
He's thinking so hard. What to do against my aggression. Does he challenge me, claim he scanned me, or play it safer and throw someone else under the bus.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:52:41 PM
#17
Yeah I know because you think literally everyone suspicious is just town that doesn't know how to play.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:51:07 PM
#13
He is not town faking power. He is scum faking power. Treat him as such.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:47:21 PM
#9
Yeah we'll see. I like my chances.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed
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06/27/19 10:46:07 PM
#6
I don't see a cop claim. I see a cop fakeclaim. This is a guy brandishing a badge and saying he's the law. A real cop just books the three criminals.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:43:19 PM
#463
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77824296

Topic 15 go
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:42:09 PM
#460
Of course it's not! This is a terrible gambit.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 3
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06/27/19 10:40:52 PM
#34
Dante
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:38:49 PM
#456
I scanned you all three nights. Scum every time. I had to be sure!
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:36:42 PM
#452
I know who the last town power is as well. They're probably, you know, the real cop.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:32:58 PM
#444
I'm not scum, but here, let me show you how I can magically transform into one

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben


Reveal the guilty scan on me I'm tired of waiting.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:31:09 PM
#437
I'm going to let him reveal the third scan, then I can reveal his gambit.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:29:49 PM
#430
Oh wow Death is Mafia!!! Please tell me more scum cop.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing
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06/27/19 10:28:00 PM
#424
I think Ben saw the writing on the wall when I identified all the scum and decided to go nuts
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