Lurker > KanzarisKelshen

I *knew it*. Things simply weren't adding up! Note to self: when that little voice persistently tells you somebody is the culprit, *bury them*.

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Blech, I don't like this. We just don't have the evidence, and things have been way too quiet. Here's to hoping Occam's Razor won't fail us here.

##Silver's Murder: Maria
##Luis' Murder: Maria
##Maria's Murder: Zea
##Regaro's Murder: Zea
##Shados' Murder: Maria

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From: Sceptilesolar | #256

From: KanzarisKelshen | #255

From: Sceptilesolar | #254

It might. However, the door to the freezer was already closed when the explosive was set off. Think about it. The second explosive, triggered when Shados opened the freezer door, was strong enough to inflict severe damage to the surrounding area. No such damage was found at the scene.

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This actually begs an interesting question, then - how come one of the explosives wrecked everything and the other one didn't? Could it be possible that Maria and Reg died off-scene?

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No, it's because the freezer door was closed when one of them went off, is what I'm saying <_<. The freezer proved too tough so damage was confined to its inside.

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I feel like I'm not being clear enough. Why did the freezer not evidence significant damage on the inside if the explosion so thoroughly wrecked things when the door opened? Seems like a pretty big jump in effectiveness. Wish I could check the previous topic to see what it had to say about it. :-/

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From: Sceptilesolar | #254

From: KanzarisKelshen | #253

From: Sceptilesolar | #252

They weren't killed by an explosive, so that theory is not possible.

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You're saying the explosive couldn't cause enough damage to the freezer to lock them in?

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It might. However, the door to the freezer was already closed when the explosive was set off. Think about it. The second explosive, triggered when Shados opened the freezer door, was strong enough to inflict severe damage to the surrounding area. No such damage was found at the scene.

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This actually begs an interesting question, then - how come one of the explosives wrecked everything and the other one didn't? Could it be possible that Maria and Reg died off-scene?

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From: Sceptilesolar | #252

From: KanzarisKelshen | #251

From: Sceptilesolar | #249

Second: Luis was the first person to take explosives, barring somebody sneaking in through airducts or somesuch. However, it is exceedingly likely somebody else took explosives the following night. The question's who. We need to determine who lacks a good alibi and go from there. Did any of you spot anybody else last night? If not, I've got a...potential theory...as to how people died. But unfortunately, there's no evidence beyond it being logical, and we all know how much logic's worth here.

I'm pretty confident Maria took the explosives, though since I never left my room that night I have no evidence. But the explosives seem to have been used within the freezer only. Furthermore the freezer door was probably shut at the time since the kitchen wasn't destroyed. That's evidence for the theory that Maria and/or Reg used the explosives to try to blow out the door. So this isn't something you need to theorize about.

Besides, a fair number of people took explosives, I think. I know I still have mine. You should have some too.

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Is there? Can you point me to it? My own theory is that Luis dropped one of the explosives as a trap in the freezer, got killed by Reg and Maria, they took his remaining explosive and went to the freezer to prepare the explosive to explode, and the first explosive killed them.

They weren't killed by an explosive, so that theory is not possible.

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You're saying the explosive couldn't cause enough damage to the freezer to lock them in?

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From: Sceptilesolar | #249

Second: Luis was the first person to take explosives, barring somebody sneaking in through airducts or somesuch. However, it is exceedingly likely somebody else took explosives the following night. The question's who. We need to determine who lacks a good alibi and go from there. Did any of you spot anybody else last night? If not, I've got a...potential theory...as to how people died. But unfortunately, there's no evidence beyond it being logical, and we all know how much logic's worth here.

I'm pretty confident Maria took the explosives, though since I never left my room that night I have no evidence. But the explosives seem to have been used within the freezer only. Furthermore the freezer door was probably shut at the time since the kitchen wasn't destroyed. That's evidence for the theory that Maria and/or Reg used the explosives to try to blow out the door. So this isn't something you need to theorize about.

Besides, a fair number of people took explosives, I think. I know I still have mine. You should have some too.

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Is there? Can you point me to it? My own theory is that Luis dropped one of the explosives as a trap in the freezer, got killed by Reg and Maria, they took his remaining explosive and went to the freezer to prepare the explosive to explode, and the first explosive killed them.

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From: Haguile | #248

From: KanzarisKelshen | #247

First things first: my actions for some reason didn't go through. Any particular reasons for that?

What actions? I'm not seeing any actions in the most recent list.

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The ones I had to send through...ahem...alternative channels? Remember, the site just wasn't letting me do stuff.

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Hoax? Not? God, I hope it's true. If only to shut all the Mega Man idiots...plus, Cyclops, GIMME DAT.

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Alright. Problems with GFaqs are, for the most part, fixed. Back for now, hopefully for the long haul.

First things first: my actions for some reason didn't go through. Any particular reasons for that?

Second: Luis was the first person to take explosives, barring somebody sneaking in through airducts or somesuch. However, it is exceedingly likely somebody else took explosives the following night. The question's who. We need to determine who lacks a good alibi and go from there. Did any of you spot anybody else last night? If not, I've got a...potential theory...as to how people died. But unfortunately, there's no evidence beyond it being logical, and we all know how much logic's worth here.

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From: OmarsComin | #219

I'm not convinced it's impossible, actually. I mean, put it this way: we got beat down super hard in the early iterations of SF4, but now the field is super and wide open to the point anyone could possibly take Evo. If a scene for 3S sprung back up again, don't you think we could possibly catch up?

yeah but the difference is that Japan has like 5+ extra years on us at this point, for the various sets of time where no one was playing it over here. it shows, too - we've never done anything but get crushed by the Japanese anywhere outside Evo (where they only had a few people come every year). whenever we went to SBO we got bodied pretty hard.

there's probably like 5 guys total in the US who could hang with the Japanese right now. not sure if it'll ever be much more. it's possible that like you said we could have a 3s revival but OE didn't do a lot towards that and 3s is one of those games where pretty much no one likes to play on console, it's arcade or nothing. and we don't have that many arcades. sucks but I just figure it's unlikely. if you wanna get good at 3s as an American you basically gotta go live in Japan at this point.

That's more to do with SBO having a hilariously bad format though. Put up a japanese best of 3 tourney and I bet we do way better than in SBO. But yeah, we could seriously use a proper, arcade-perfect 3S console port, instead of OE.

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From: SSJSephirothGokuX123 | #028

It's really practical through, and without the divekick he lost his approach and ability to force people into corners.

Right, but he's good enough to use still if you can get ahead, because that infinite can SERIOUSLY run the clock. And we all know just how hard it is to turn things around in SFxT without running the timer.

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From: SSJSephirothGokuX123 | #021

Also no one answered the SFxT question.

Ryu is widely considered the best character in the game. Kazuya, Raven, Zangief and probably Ogre is the the top five, Rufus used to be top 5 until his dive kick nerf.

Vega is okay in that game, his lack of damage is his major problem but since you're most likely to win through time outs anyway it's not that big of a problem, M. Bison is complete garbage in that game, one of the absolute worst. His priority is much worse and he can't do anything against someone holding down back since his scissor kicks are much less safe than SF4 and since grabs have no range in this game his tick throw game is non existent.

Rufus has a super good infinite. He's still top.

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From: Anagram | #018

Damn. I didn't buy UMvC3, but I really liked her MvC3.

She was unfortunately just as terrible back then. If you wanna use her, she just got buffs in the switch.

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From: Lopen | #009

Probably Phoenix there. She's a lot better in a game that has higher meter gain. She was also slightly nerfed directly between the two games too.

Maybe still Zero though I'm unsure how much of his power was from buffs.

Lots. Without the buster cancel he can't apply lightning loops and is less safe. Still great, just not super dominant.

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From: GANON1025 | #006

Why did Zero/Vergil take over over Wesker?

Because unlike Wesker, they can wipe you out with basically no counterplay. They also have the advantage of being able to attack the opposite top corner, which Wesker just can't do barring random Phantom Dances.

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From: ExThaNemesis | #045

Guys church isn't really that bad. Literally just zone out for 45 minutes. I got through like a year of church by envisioning a DBZ fight inside the church when I was younger. (Android 17 vs. Vegeta, btw)

I can think of so much crap to do with that 10k right now. Would be nice.

Dude, with that hour or two hours of time a week, I could do so much more stuff. It's not about it being bad, it's about the deal being insufficient, that's all.

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From: OmarsComin | #208

eh. that s*** is overstated. she's dominant and sucky when she has two bars of meter. before that you shouldn't be afraid of her. she has very specific answers to situations and basically no offensive tools before she has SA2 and she's not hard to deal with. the only part where she sucks to fight against is when she's got you backed in the corner, threatening you with cr mks and kara throwing you all day.

you're saying you hope he levels his 3s Chun up to that point? hm maybe but it's probably unlikely. being top 5 Chun in the US does mean something but the US is so far behind Japan at this point it's ridiculous. gap keeps widening because 3s barely has a tournament presence here and it's still one of the more popular arcade games in Japan. the really good Chuns like Nuki Rikimaru etc are so good at this point that I doubt anyone from the US will ever catch up.

I'm not convinced it's impossible, actually. I mean, put it this way: we got beat down super hard in the early iterations of SF4, but now the field is super and wide open to the point anyone could possibly take Evo. If a scene for 3S sprung back up again, don't you think we could possibly catch up?

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From: OmarsComin | #205

Ricky was one of the top 5 3s Chun players in the US

they should put his CvS2 team behind him though

Yes, but what I'm saying is that 3S Chun is even less fun to fight against than Alpha 2 Chun, and is possibly even more dominant, which is a hella ridiculous feat. Ricky is still a god with her though, and I hope he can level her up to the point she's as good as his Rufus in AE2k12.

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Needs to grind out that Chun before it's good enough to feature there (lol 3S Chun). But that pic made me smile, nonetheless.

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From: Paratroopa1 | #172

Was Sakurai directing KI:U? Because KI:U is absolutely fantastic.

Yep, it's Sakurai's brainchild and he lead development for it.

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From: SovietOmega | #212

Gosh kan, so perverted....

I gotta admit it, I laughed.

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From: SovietOmega | #210

Catgirls should be dex/int or wis. Not so much booksmart though, but more primal intelligence. I think dndwiki might have some catgirl templates though, I am sure of it. They have half-shoe afterall.

Razorclaws make fine catgirls. It's just amusing that they totally suck.

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From: LOLGRIZZ | #159

For all the people screaming "hypocrite": relax. Those of us who are skeptical about this new direction have every right to be given how disappointing Brawl was. It's not just the slow, campy mechanics or utter lack of balance; even the single player elements were botched. Items weren't nearly as fun. Pokeballs were bland. Event mode wasn't nearly as interesting. No unique target tests, and a more limited selection of single-player modes. The one "improvement" was the SSE, an embarrassing display of mismanaged priorities that was a black hole of development time and resources.

If by "focusing on improving gameplay" Sakurai means having a 45-50 character roster with no clones, more varied single player options, more stages, and more / better items, then I'd be thrilled. If, instead, he means another overlong adventure mode, more tired gimmicks, and more needless collectibles, then that's another matter altogether. Based on his track record, guess which is more likely?

The former, minus 50 characters. Without him, KI:U doesn't exist, neither does Kirby, nor Melee, nor...I could go on and on. Evidence is not in your favor, it's against it.

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Speaking of Toon Link, can we all agree on this list of Top Priorities?

Top Priority 1: Make Captain Falcon not suck.

Top Priority 2: Finally give both Links (or the one Link if that's how it rolls) a decent air game.

Seriously, it's the saddest thing that Link's always had the tools to dominate, if only he could recover in the air at all. He needs better mobility ASAP.

EDIT: And yeah, clone movesets are A-OK as long as there are enough tweaks to set characters apart. Again, look at Ryu and Ken - their movesets only differ in one or two moves and then on how they execute the remaining ones, and yet they don't really play very similarly at all. One can be wildly more powerful than the other depending on the SF game you're talking about (see: Third Strike, Alpha 2, etc.).

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From: WazzupGenius00 | #022

I don't think protagonists always need to do the smart or logical thing. What if that thing doesn't fit their personality?

You're confusing logical with rational. Rational is doing the thing that maximizes your profits or benefits, AKA 'the smart thing'. Logical means doing what is consistent and follows from predefined stipulations...AKA what follows from your personality. Illogical characters who aren't made to be crazy are impossible to relate to, because all of us are mostly tremendously logical in our own ways.

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Ditch Falco? Huh, weird. I feel like he's too entrenched within the community to chuck - he certainly needs tweaks and some more diversification from Fox, but he's like the Ken to Fox's Ryu and thus indispensable.

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From: SantaRPG | #018

From: ninkendo | #001
8. The protagonist always does the opposite of what I think.

Does this mean the protagonist acts the opposite of the way they would act? Or that they can't tell what the protagonist is going to do next?

because if it's the latter

damn.

It means 'the dude that is supposed to be my avatar in the world is an idiotic douche and I wouldn't do things like he did. I'm smarter than this, game, goddammit!'. It means the writing is bad and the way the protagonist acts isn't consistent and logical.

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From: Masato_Tanaka | #080

I'm calling BS. They'll add more characters because if they don't, the fans will get all butthurt and pull a ME3.

He didn't say 'no new characters' though. He said 'no major roster expansions', AKA don't expect it to double. It's more likely that we'll get several clones replaced or made more unique than just stuffing in more new dudes with reckless abandon.

PS: Speaking of which, question for the people who aren't being mad hypocritical ITT: if you had to chuck out clones, which ones would you take away and why? Would you drastically change any clones that still made the cut? Offhand, the only ones I'd keep would be Falco, Ganondorf, and Ike (if he counts as a Marth clone, even). No reason to keep any of the others I don't think.

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If this were per month or per week, I'd take it. As it is...hahahahahaha no.

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Proof right here that Nintendo shouldn't listen to its haters, because they're just grognards. Apparently, the people who liked the balance of Melee and that most every character could do some damage are unhappy about not having an MvC2-sized roster, with an equally large number of worthless characters!

Seriously, laughing my ass off here. How can you guys be so damn hypocritical? Stick to your guns, dammit. Don't embarrass yourselves so thoroughly.

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From: Mega Mana | #022

Aw man, I missed this? =(

It was delayed by a half hour, then we got teased with casuals for forty minutes, and it STILL delivered. It was so hype it broke 19k viewers at times, something absolutely unheard of for non-major streams and IIRC, the highest stream count of the year for fighting games period. Marvel hype is just unbeatable!

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From: WazzupGenius00 | #019

I'm dying to know who/what convinced Dios to switch to Storm. That was the worst mistake of the whole match.

He used to play Storm way back when he made his debut. Viscant even commented that as soon as he chucked Storm he was gonna be a serious threat. I guess he felt he needed his old standby?

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From: TheKnightOfNee | #016

That match with a Phoenix vs. Storm ending that took forever was so messed up, so much movement in all directions so fast

And Champ is the king of being salty and letting his emotions get to him in everything

Champ wants to be King Heel apparentlyt. Still, he earned the right to trashtalk after making Dios X basically sepukku himself.

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...And then Justin fists him out. Loser's bracket mode engaged!

EDIT: GODDAMN JUSTIN vs COMBO, GET IN THERE NOW!

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And then Angelic beat him. SHUMA POWER!

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Combo lost to Phoenixpino Champ ;_;

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It's kinda crappy because the shop is broken, the bridge is broken, and it has brush where it shouldn't have. But it's a start.

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From: JeffreyRaze | #036

Kanz, other than the first day have you posted anything in character?

Also, I just thought of something. There is a way to get the stuff needed to stop the flood I believe. The machine from the storeroom was said to be missing today. But if we can find it, we can each individually ask for a small part of the scuba gear, and get a full set that way. And we can break a table or something to make a battering ram to get into the second floor. Where are the controls for the water exactly? Either way, it won't be easy but it should be possible. Better than drowning to death at any rate.

So to whoever moved the machine, please speak up.

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Yeah, bunch of times. Only reason I am not talking in-character just yet is because I have to make my questions utterly, crystal clear here.

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From: shadosneko | #035

From: KanzarisKelshen | #033
What did Luis gain yesterday? Tell me the truth or we're lynching you.
I'm seriously not sure what you mean.

All I saw was that he was dead in the kitchen.

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You can see his past. What did he get yesterday?

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Odd, why did scep's stuff get pasted in? Ignore that for now, please. The important bit is Shados.

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From: shadosneko | #015

How I got the footage:

I've had cameras planted on Silver and Regaro since Day 1. That's how I got footage of Regaro with Maria, and that's how I got footage of Silver flooding the school.

How I know Luis's role:

##Flashes his sword
What I have here is an alien device, which allows me to see into a dead person's past! I can tell what role the people I stab have. I tried to stab Spiral, Justin, and Solfadore also, but I couldn't find their bodies. Spiral's was obviously moved, but I'm not sure about Justin/Solf. I suppose they were moved too?

From: Sceptilesolar | #030

7:00 Investigate Maria's room. Results public.
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What did Luis gain yesterday? Tell me the truth or we're lynching you.

Also, interesting. Apparently the winning choice last night was not to play.

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Toldja people this was an ARG. Now it's time for the game to begin!

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From: AlphaRayAllen | #146

You really need to get over yourself with the "if you don't like this game, you're just a dumbass hater who doesn't play or watch the game at all" thing, Kanz. It will get you in a lot of trouble if you say that s*** to the wrong guy.

I wasn't calling anybody here that, Bio. It's just a more general statement because lots of people, especially Marvel 2 fogeys, act like that game wasn't an obviously broken, assy mess when it came out. People say Marvel 3 is a bad game, but to an unbiased observer it is *very clearly* poised to be a competitive, healthy game for a long time, minus TAC infinites.

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From: OmarsComin | #136

no, I don't care personally. I just don't see the point in patching every last infinite or imbalance. just let the game develop and people will either keep playing it or eventually decide it's too stupid to keep bothering with. when I say "it's Marvel" I mean the series already has a history of really dumb abusive stuff and it still turned out competitively interesting. so let this do the same. worst case scenario it turns out you made a badly designed game (which hey, Capcom since the SF4 era) and the community starts playing something else. best case scenario, it fits into the overall picture and becomes part of the metagame.

it's easy to point out games that would've been worse with changes. if 3s was a modern game it would be worse because they would've patched out a lot of stuff continuously. stuff that ended up being really competitively interesting. most likely they would've listened to the dumb people about balance and patched out what makes half the cast fun and we wouldn't have what we have now, a competitive scene where at least half the cast is viable and they're all fun to play.

Marvel 2 wouldn't even be the same game.

then there's stuff like the Alpha series. really at a high level they aren't good games, they're chock full of degenerate stuff. people abandoned them over time because other entries in the series are more solid. they could've kept patching things as they came up but fundamentally the games would be would still be what they were.

SFxT and Marvel 3 deserve to meet similar fates. figure out if they're good and play them as is. people tend to forget but Capcom has produced far more competitively unplayable games than they've produced successful ones. HF, ST, 3s, CvS2, Marvel 2, those are really the only pre-SF4 games that had an extended run in the competitive scene because they were good. it shouldn't be surprising that SFxT sucks and Marvel 3 still needs to be figured out. if they followed their old business model they'd make a SFxT2 and fix everything wrong with the first one at once. instead they're patching it a bit at a time and people keep discovering new stuff exposing that the game is kind of dumb and broken at it's core.

SFxT would still be a broken game because Capcom explicitly said they would never release an updated edition besides maybe a GotY that came pre-patched. This is absolutely not the same thing as 'this game is starting to develop an interesting metagame, but infinites are degenerate and different from the normal cheap stuff because they counterplay is not there'. The thing that you're not getting is that you don't watch Marvel often, unlike I do (Biolizard doesn't either, so I'm divorcing my position from him). At this point, so far, we have a clear 'best character' in Zero, but even that Best Character is just not dominant enough to warp the game around him, and new tech is still being found every day. The game is healthy, it supports multiple playstyles, and every character except Hsien-Ko and Phoenix Wright is viable and potentially hugely dangerous with proper teamcomp. Could it be better? Sure, but the thing is that it's still a good game, and the only guys who refuse to accept this at this point are Groggy Dumb ****s, mostly haters who don't play the game. It doesn't need lots of patching that sets things right by fixing something broken at this point, even though one more balance patch would be great to even things up a bit. The TAC Infinites are just something that doesn't really have a place in the game beyond being able to run out the clock without, literally, letting the opponent play at all. Capcom's old business model is terrible and it's good to have patching, so that no-gameplay tech can be taken out to keep the game fast and lean.

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From: Accel_R8 | #187

I wasn't arguing it, I AGREE that it's stupid.

Oh, I thought you were saying the ruling was kinda stupid because the wording was unclear. My bad! U_U

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^

Again, they're hella good for timeouts. This doesn't make them a reliable tool until the combos start racking up twenty hits a rep (at which point they might actually be decent if the execution isn't TOO hard).

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Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402

Yeah, if you liked Marvel before, it's still good and this is gonna get patched ASAP. If you didn't this is just an excuse to hate. It's terrible that it got found just before EVO, but literally the only use the TAC infinites have in their current form is stalling for the timeout. They just take too much effort to kill someone with no health for thirty reps.

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From: Accel_R8 | #185

So our DM ruling is to disregard RAW?

That's fair enough I guess, even though it totally works by the RAW it's kind of stupid. Oh well. Guess I'll have to find some other way to be Megaman :(

He's ruling to disregard RAW because this is the same kind of RAW that says Scooter's Master's Surge doesn't work. AKA the one that is terrible. Harsh, but true.

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Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402

Yeah, it's basically super dumb because of stuff like this:

Foe-Seeker Ammunition Level 12+ Uncommon
This arrow creates a magical link between you and your enemies, making each of your shots more accurate than the last
until you strike home.
Lvl12 +3 500 gp Lvi 22 +5
Lvi 17 +4 2,600 gp Lvi 27 +6
Ammunition
Enhancement Bonus: Attack rolls and damage rolls
Property
13,000 gp
65,000 gp
When you make an attack using this ammunition, you gain a
+1 item bonus to the attack roll. If you miss, during your next
turn, choose another target within range of the original square
you attacked from and make the attack again as a minor action,
increasing the item bonus by 1. You can repeat the attack this
way each round (and increase the item bonus) until the attack
hits or until the end of the encounter.

I wasn't kidding when I said it was autohits forever.

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