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it annoys me that there was no new dub episode for wfm this week

Finally catching up on some stuff I had been saving for a couple of months now and that finally means getting to Oshi no Ko.

And that first episode was a banger. Excellent performance by Rie Takahashi.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

it annoys me that there was no new dub episode for wfm this week

You haven't been watching the sub? Episode 20 was fantastic btw. Easy to understand even.

i do both

i do the new one first, then i do the dub in the background while i build

it's a very good dub

Yo...games really gotta stop handing me scripted losses. This shit pisses me off every single time, especially so late into the game when it's reasonable that you are max level with the best gear in the game, the same stats and gear you will eventually use to slaughter the final boss with no resistance, but no, now it's impossible. I even survived the attack that was supposed to kill you and then you just lose anyway. An ultra beast is nothing at this point in the game.

I've made it to "extra chapter". I still intend to see it through to the end at this point, but man, just let me win.

I started dragons dogma again

I don't have the expansion. I don't think anyone plays the base anymore.

Ok wow, I beat demons roots and what a complete shit ending. That kinda ruined the whole game for me. The whole premise of the last fight is so incredibly dumb, and the fact that I wiped the floor with the enemy but somehow was...fuck this. God damn I can't believe I wasted so much health and time on this game. Fuck. Does no one else realize how incredibly worthless a book of prophecy that constantly changes is? That's the opposite of being prophetic. Like, they could have ended the game 10 minutes sooner and it would have been fine. Not good, because a lot of the stuff surrounding the end was bad, but the final confrontation and fight was fine and ended on a good note, but that wasn't good enough for them, they had to ruin it. I'm sad. There's a lot more to complain about but whatever.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Yo...games really gotta stop handing me scripted losses. This shit pisses me off every single time, especially so late into the game when it's reasonable that you are max level with the best gear in the game, the same stats and gear you will eventually use to slaughter the final boss with no resistance, but no, now it's impossible. I even survived the attack that was supposed to kill you and then you just lose anyway. An ultra beast is nothing at this point in the game.

I've made it to "extra chapter". I still intend to see it through to the end at this point, but man, just let me win.

or how about you beat them, and then all it does is have the game give you a short cutscene of you somehow losing after all

a buncha rpgs i played back in the day did that iirc. tales of destiny versus leon, for example. i was using gameshark, i was literally invincible

Binged episodes 1-7 of Oshi no Ko in the past 24 hours.
I was so wrong about this show.

Watched the latest gundam and that was indeed a great episode. My only concern is that a lot of the cause for immediate conflict is wrapped up so we might have some slower episodes for a few weeks. Also that one girl was really trying her best to set as many death flags as possible which sorta ruined the impact of the death. Still, fantastic episode. This season has been great for gundam.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

or how about you beat them, and then all it does is have the game give you a short cutscene of you somehow losing after all

I include that in my scripted losses. Is it really so hard to tell a story where the protagonist never loses in direct combat or really never ends up at the mercy of the villain who always goes james bond villain on em and either imprisons them or takes forever to kill them so they can get away, not only ruining the hero's credibility in fighting the villain, but the villains credibility in actually being competent.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Does no one else realize how incredibly worthless a book of prophecy that constantly changes is? That's the opposite of being prophetic.

I think that's kind of the point. The book is being used by someone (probably a villain in the upcoming game) to keep history on a very specific track. There's no way it just randomly stuck to one of the two people in the world who are capable of stopping Deathpolca- and the other person would probably be less decisive in using it. It was EXACTLY right enough of the time that with inaction it would always be the same outcomes, and it showed how futile halfhearted measures would be.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Like, they could have ended the game 10 minutes sooner and it would have been fine.

I do agree though honestly. I feel like the writer is trying too hard to set up some of the third game but he doesn't know how to connect the dots so he just fuckin drew a straight line. Like if they hadn't reused Ange's sprite and had kept Clara living to be a plot twist in the third game that would have worked out better. To be fair this entire game outside of the music was a 1-man project though- the graphics (not even sure how much stock RPGmaker assets he uses, but it's not a lot), the sheer amount of content, the writing, the gameplay balancing. Pretty sure the guy has also never written anything he intends to have a sequel for; King Exit was released like a decade before Demons Roots and in retrospect King Exit has quite a few continuity plot holes.

I still think the rest of the game makes up for it. My god it was a ride.

agesboy posted...

I think that's kind of the point. The book is being used by someone (probably a villain in the upcoming game) to keep history on a very specific track. There's no way it just randomly stuck to one of the two people in the world who are capable of stopping Deathpolca- and the other person would probably be less decisive in using it. It was EXACTLY right enough of the time that with inaction it would always be the same outcomes, and it showed how futile halfhearted measures would be.

It's TOO obvious though. Like who trusts a book of prophecy that changes with no outside interference? Blond girl wasn't shown to be especially stupid, if anything she is supposed to be clever. She was the one that informed us of all the times the prophecy changed so she clearly knew it. It just doesn't make any sense on a basic level. Even kalinka should be able to put together how worthless that book is. Then aside from that, what took things way off their initial awful course? Telling polca about it, so just do that again.

But really, the true shame of the ending is that we lose somehow in the repeatedly dumbest ways. Why am I running from her in the first place? Why don't I immediately use FUH pull? Why don't I use full heal after the battle? Why doesn't Lily revive quickly and at full health? The healing especially makes no sense. Earlier in the story we get impaled through the chest by lily and a quick heal completely cures the issue, so healing magic isn't just a gameplay convenience. They even go out of the way to tell us kalinka learned it and we see how powerful it is.

Well no, I lied, the real shame is that we fail to accomplish our goal. I'm being punished for winning a game. That shouldn't happen. Even if the writing was airtight and the logic behind it was impeccable, it would still be a terrible ending to a video game that I beat. We already have a whole mode dedicated to losing. I feel the same way about the other game I mentioned, Daughter of Essence, which is still personally my pick for best rpgmaker game but it also has a similarly unsatisfying ending, although it was at least written more solidly. Man I hope that dev makes a sequel and lets us actually beat the dream. I think theres a good chance if you liked demons roots you'd like daughter of essence. It's a bit of a slower start, but the characters and the world are very well written and interesting IMO. It doesn't have a soundtrack as good as shade's, but it does actually have really good copyright free music that gives each area it's own mysterious vibe. Especially the cove, witchdale and esterholt. It also has similar themes of an empire that seems impossible to confront, slavery, freedom, and war.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Why am I running from her in the first place?

Demons Roots takes a lot of inspiration from Rance, and both the Hero and the Savior seem like they functional similarly to the Hero in Rance; they gain more power the more humanity has been pushed back and are extremely specialized in killing demons. Also didn't the Savior do something to their surroundings to weaken her?

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Well no, I lied, the real shame is that we fail to accomplish our goal. I'm being punished for winning a game.

While they still lose the battle, it seems like they still won the war. Deathpolica appears to be a kind of singularity towards working against whatever greater evil they're facing, and they managed to hide her for hundreds of years and align most of the world's goverments with her via her companions descendants. King Exit happens in both timelines, but I'm pretty they diverge again afterwards based on the ending, with the original timeline being the bad end (where she and probably all of her companions die). Deathpolica playing dead lets whoever's looking at the near future (it seems like the book of prophecy stops at around the time of King Exit, so it was only ever looking 40~ years into the future at best iirc) feel confident they've "won", but she's still unknowingly a threat to them. I really think they accidentally stumbled into one of the only possible "good" (even with how shit it was) futures, given the unknown intangible threat facing them. Narratively the game always seemed like it was going to at best be a bittersweet ending to me and a loss at worst

Oh yeah people datamined shit from the epilogue and found out a date when it takes place, seems to be 500 years later

agesboy posted...

Also didn't the Savior do something to their surroundings to weaken her?

Nope. I mean, she laid down traps and teleported the house away, but none of that stops her from doing FUH pull. That too is hard to excuse as a mere gameplay convenience when it's integral to how the last part of the story functions. Humanity also hasn't been pushed back at all at the time this happens. If anything, they are in the best spot they've been in for millennia, ignoring the consistently incorrect prophecy book. The whole thing feels extremely contrived. Like at worst, wouldn't it make sense to kill scathach since he is the one doing both the nursery and the brainwashing? That'd nip the entire problem in the bud.

agesboy posted...

While they still lose the battle

Yeah but I was fighting to win the battle. That was the whole point of the game. The whole world we spent the game freeing goes down in flames and only the surviving remnants live on to eventually make a better world. If you told me that was the best outcome out of the gate, I'd never in a million years play the game. I don't really give a fuck what happens to the continent 500 years in the future. I didn't fight for those people, I fought the people living during the story.

It also feels rather implausible that the demons even could fight back the remainder of our party, regardless of how many fiends or how much brainwashing they have. Somehow all the important people survive the fighting, but don't put themselves in a position to end it or die trying. That feels extremely out of character. And they'd also have to take down FUH, who at this point has a mountain of spirit stones and whiskers that can take people back in time (including to save polca). Nah, they stacked way too many things on the side of our heroes for them to plausibly lose.

And then, after all this, would the remnants even decide to turn on humanity just because polca is missing? They don't even have any proof humans did it or that shes dead (obviously, since she isn't). Then we are supposed to believe sarasa doesn't try and use claura as a means of stopping the aggression? The demons already won and they know that going the brainwashing and fiend route results in their defeat and likely a hero being born.

So in order for the ending to work, blond girl has to be very dumb, the demons have to act irrationally, sarasa has to keep claura a secret during all of this, polca has to just choose not to heal herself or go back to her item pouch like 10 feet away from the battle and use a healing item, the speed of the crystal regen has to be slowed down from about 4 seconds to 500 years, nobody has to think to go to FUH and ask him to pull polca or lily, the entire remaining party has to never put themselves in a do or die battle vs the demons, the slaves have to allow the former slave owners to still run everything and start a war despite being 40% of the human population and in all the current leadership positions, diana has to forget lost innocence exists, everybody has to forget mark 6 and the FUH whiskers allow time travel, everybody also has to forget about the berserk drug, blond hair girl has to die after the fight (it's kind of unclear, but she seemed very much to regret her stupid decision) meaning humans should logically lose the conflict since she is the hero, nobody thinks to reactivate the magic cannon (or make a new one) effortlessly obliterating any army that forms as well as stationary targets like the nursery, and probably 50 things I'm forgetting.

agesboy posted...

Narratively the game always seemed like it was going to at best be a bittersweet ending to me and a loss at worst

I do not agree. Narritively it was about the defeated rising up and overthrowing the strong. About fighting slavery and racism. The message of, actually stopping slavery is bad because ex slave owners will start wars and racism is unbeatable is pretty shit and flies in the face of everything the party strove to accomplish. The game even walks back the death of Diana so she and Naje can have a happy ending.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

And then, after all this, would the remnants even decide to turn on humanity just because polca is missing? They don't even have any proof humans did it or that shes dead (obviously, since she isn't).

the rest of them (barring the dead remnants) literally do not care about humanity, they just trust Polca's judgement and charisma with humans after watching her befriend and try to save them for a thousand years. Scathach in particular was always ready to jump the gun and activate the nursery (an actual war crime) at a moment's notice, and with massive amounts of humans rebelling in the capitol at the same exact time Polca's entire mansion disappears, why WOULDN'T they assume humans are behind it?

YoukaiSlayer posted...

but none of that stops her from doing FUH pull.

i feel like you are overly fixating on an obvious gameplay convenience contrivance that is never actually used in the plot ever. who's to say she didn't take care of FUH's powers beforehand anyways? one thing King Exit points out is that she has been literally plotting and subverting the demons since their original invasion aka the prologue where shes like five and it's not like you can hide FUH forever

YoukaiSlayer posted...

blond hair girl has to die after the fight (it's kind of unclear, but she seemed very much to regret her stupid decision) meaning humans should logically lose the conflict since she is the hero,

she is the Savior, not the Hero. the hero is Geo Louise, the Knight Comander's redhead daughter from the prologue. when KC is dying he briefly sees a vision of her before he passes away. i'm pretty sure the Savior just got her ass beat to an extent that she developed memory loss, because that would still allow King Exit to work

YoukaiSlayer posted...

I do not agree. Narritively it was about the defeated rising up and overthrowing the strong.

this is a prequel to King Exit and a spiritual successor to the Rance games. I feel like that bit of context changed our expectations of the plot by a lot

YoukaiSlayer posted...

The game even walks back the death of Diana so she and Naje can have a happy ending.

also wait when did this happen wtf

agesboy posted...

also wait when did this happen wtf

Did we play different games? The final conflict has FUH pulling an entire army across the continent using spirit stones and his pull ability, making it not just gameplay convenience. Then Naje shows up a week in the past and saves diana from kudan who was protected from death by the mothers pendant (which has a phantom soul stone in it). They explain all this when Naje and Diana show up for the final fight with bless curse and that he had just been hiding out in the palace for a week since that happened waiting for this fight. She even uses lost innocence on bless curse.

agesboy posted...

Scathach in particular was always ready to jump the gun and activate the nursery (an actual war crime) at a moment's notice, and with massive amounts of humans rebelling in the capitol at the same exact time Polca's entire mansion disappears, why WOULDN'T they assume humans are behind it?

If you talk to him near the half way point after claura's death, he doesn't use the stuff because it's what claura would have wanted and it's what the people that killed her want him to do, all of which applies here and again, they don't know polca is dead, just missing.

As to why not assume humans did this to polca, because they've literally already been lead astray by the plot in the middle of the game with the berserk drug. Yes some human might be responsible but not the entire human race or even a sizeable portion of it. They were already able to move past that with much worse things.

They already won the war, they have a large enough force without the nursery and perma brainwashing to beat any rioting nobles. When demon's survival was threatened, that was when scathach was willing to go that far, but it wasn't here. In fact, it's the opposite. Using the nursery dooms demons and reduces their chance at survival greatly. It was just petty revenge against no one in particular. Not to mention, even without the demon army entirely, naje is the new emperor, he controls the imperial knights who supposedly could wipe the floor with everything else except the main cast and ultra beasts.
agesboy posted...

this is a prequel to King Exit

I feel like they already dealt with that at the half way point. Choosing the break the promise literally tells you "continued in king exit". That's the canon king exit ending.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

The final conflict has FUH pulling an entire army across the continent using spirit stones and his pull ability, making it not just gameplay convenience.

Yeah but Polca never used hers plotwise and was FUH even at the mansion at this point
YoukaiSlayer posted...

Then Naje shows up a week in the past and saves diana from kudan who was protected from death by the mothers pendant (which has a phantom soul stone in it). They explain all this when Naje and Diana show up for the final fight with bless curse and that he had just been hiding out in the palace for a week since that happened waiting for this fight. She even uses lost innocence on bless curse.

I didn't think that was a particular stretch, though, that's just good writing. All the elements had been introduced beforehand, including the effect of the mother's pendant. I never actually thought they were dead so it kinda slipped my mind lol

YoukaiSlayer posted...

They already won the war, they have a large enough force without the nursery and perma brainwashing to beat any rioting nobles.

More early King Exit exposition spoilers, but a new faction takes over after the Empire somehow collapses led by a new evil guy and quickly comes to dominate the entire continent. The demons are already fighting a losing battle by now.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

When demon's survival was threatened, that was when scathach was willing to go that far, but it wasn't here.

Lol literally what no go rewatch the betrayal scene https://youtu.be/YOKKjwgCovc?t=2487

Scathatch was preemptively readying the nursery with corpses this entire time, and he was the one who led the conversation to be about destroying humankind and letting human women die inside the nursery for revenge. He brings THIS EXACT moment to bring up the permanent brainwashing technique that Claura had already completed but was hiding because he wants to instill as much hatred into Polca as possible when he revealed who the traitor was. Everything he does has been calculated towards eradicating humans in the most brutal way possible. King Exit makes how much of a genocidal maniac he was even more obvious because there's conversations with him

YoukaiSlayer posted...

I feel like they already dealt with that at the half way point. Choosing the break the promise literally tells you "continued in king exit". That's the canon king exit ending.

King Exit definitely still happens. The thing is King Exit does not even touch a LOT of what happens in Demons Roots, even though a lot of stuff can be inferred between them, so the game can still happen even if history has been changed. No party members are seen or mentioned in King Exit, and the bit before the epilogue confirms history has started to shift to a situation similar to the previous timeline, but in this timeline everyone believed in Polca's ideals enough to push forward. Whereas in the previous timeline, their connections had been severed by Ange's and Polca's betrayals.

One more thing, a NG+ thing in Demons Roots that references some King Exit stuff since you probably won't wanna do the extra fights and shit: In a dream world, the Hero Geo Louise and her party claim to have killed the rest of the remnants (which as you know in the prologue of KE is what she's already done) and challenge our party to a fight. After it ends, Geo Louise admits she just wanted to know what kind of person Polca was, and that she was looking forward to her waking up. So King Exit is definitely going to tie back around to Demons Roots because somehow Geo Louise is gonna exist in game 3 wtf

agesboy posted...

I didn't think that was a particular stretch, though, that's just good writing

It was good writing that a character suddenly time traveled with no prior explanation given and no one else bringing up that immense power afterwards? The pendant saving her life was fine I guess, but my polca had the brother pendant which is the same during the ending.
agesboy posted...

More early King Exit exposition spoilers, but a new faction takes over after the Empire somehow collapses led by a new evil guy and quickly comes to dominate the entire continent. The demons are already fighting a losing battle by now.

See, if I knew this then I could have saved myself the trouble and just not played the game. Whats the point of a game where your failure is guaranteed before you even start it?

YoukaiSlayer posted...

It was good writing that a character suddenly time traveled with no prior explanation given and no one else bringing up that immense power afterwards?

i feel like this is due to najezta somehow "pulling" himself through time using FUH's powers to the one he was desperately wishing to meet, which his mother's amulet somehow seemed to catalyze. it's not directly foreshadowed, but imo it happens so "recently" (they jumped back "hours ago") that i can see it as a current event. basically i feel like this event doesn't need to be foreshadowed

edit: in fact, i think there were some others trying to do this, but they all failed to actually time travel? the past scene just had diablo, diana, and najezta despite ange saying "Everyone has one of the ultra beast's whiskers, right?"

edit 2: OH I FUCKIN GET IT: the plan was for all of them just to GO to polca, like current time. but najezta wavered and thought about diana, and due to his mother's pendant, a once in a lifetime miracle occured. well we still dont know why that pendant was so fuckin important but well, a mandatory equipped accessory for a character is allowed at least one wish right

YoukaiSlayer posted...

The pendant saving her life was fine I guess, but my polca had the brother pendant which is the same during the ending.

rewatching this part i'm relatively sure this is due to timey wimey shenanigans, because the pendant was only consumed at the moment of time travel (he jumped in the second before she ACTUALLY got hit- storywise, he was still probably equipping it), yet somehow the rest of the party remembered diana's corpse ("Your head's still on!") so there WAS another pendant somehow. time travel seems wonky and not a destined loop in this continuity

a lot of specifics are unexplained so far but i'm cool with that

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Whats the point of a game where your failure is guaranteed before you even start it?

That's the point we're disagreeing on, it isn't failure. The difference between the two timelines is hope. They weren't possible to stop the next villain RIGHT NOW, but they averted what seemed to be his real goal (death to Polca) in the end and they're in stronger of a position than ever. The ACTUAL ending was pretty bungly written, but I think the position and implications overall redeem it from being a total asspull.

I feel like a lot of the reasons we disagree here are also the reasons we disagree about Xenoblade 3 lol. I'm still gonna shill my favorites but if you ask me whether a series is more emotional or logical and I say emotional, you can probably just ignore my rec

anyways play astlibra the translation is good now ( )

what even the fuck was bobobo bo bobobo

ConfusedTorchic posted...

what even the fuck was bobobo bo bobobo

It's was an unironic meme anime before anime was mainstream in the west.

Dipping into The Caf Terrace and Its Goddesses because I am fan service trash.

I_Abibde posted...

Dipping into The Caf Terrace and Its Goddesses because I am fan service trash.

I been holding out for an uncensored release. Same with ninja gender bender yuri one from last season.

been reading the manhua Cheating Men Must die and it's preeeeeeetttty good

MC travels from fictional world to world fulfilling the dying wishes of women who have been betrayed, about a new setting+genre every 20~ chapters. seems like people who reach max cultivation become world-hopping do-gooders

i love the setup phases of stories, so each arc being very different and relatively compact is pretty neat

New gundam witch episode out and it seems my fears of not having much conflict were for nothing although I'm kinda concerned about the pacing. It really seems like they plan to wrap things up in the next 3 episodes. I'm also kind of annoyed at gundam again not really allowing a natural final conflict. It's always gotta have a super power or super weapon that renders piloting skill and numbers irrelevant. This one was at least heavily foreshadowed.

I'm pretty sure it won't happen, but I almost wish we could have a code geass type situation where this just ends the first half and new conflicts build and arise around the use of this new technology with people from different factions changing sides as their interests or morals no longer align. I'm afraid gundam witch is going to end without having a single large scale conflict. Like I think my dream scenario is that suletta manages to synch fully with the new gundam and push her mind into the datastorm as well, defeating prospera and seizing quiet zero but prospera and aerial escape and build up a new force rousing earth anti spacian sentiments in a final multi battle confrontation between earth and space, each side with their own quiet zero (eri and suletta). Miorinne resolves that her hands are already dirty and theres no clean way out of a fight with prospera with Guel doing the protagonist pilot side of the spacians and Lauda joining earthians side to kill Miorinne. To me, that is the 10/10 masterpiece direction for the show, but I'm fairly confident it won't happen and instead it's going to end in 3 episodes without us really getting the payout for a lot of the worldbuilding and character development.

i haven't seen todays episode, but i forgot this the last episode,

i think your fears of the show focusing more on the school aspect is over, considering the state of the last episode

wow, still no new dubbed episode

i wonder if it's related to that writers strike going on, or that happened or was going to happen?

lmao i went to watch the new episode and they did add a new dub episode after all

took a while

god chuchu is the best

what did elan do with lfrith ur

prospera is a skank

this show is definitely their take on Shakespeare's the tempest, confirmed with the gundam caliburn tease

guess schwarzette isn't guels gundam after all, and who actually told suletta about elan? i don't remember that scene ever happening

This latest episode of vinland saga really did not hit for me. It felt so fake. Like the characters just changed for no reason to allow things to work out perfectly. To see the resolve of a man that poisoned his own brother crumble because of that conversation just does not sit right with me. One of the rare times I don't like the happy ending. Even worse knowing that in real life the place he plans to escape to already had a warring culture so theres no way it could work out. If you really wanna carve out a place for people without violence, get into politics or something. By this period in history, there was nowhere to run to where war couldn't follow. It's also awfully convenient the massive laid off army didn't decide to turn to banditry or revolt. I'm also a bit sad that canute never asked "what will you do if there are no places left to run?" Like, thats ultimately the reason pacifism like this can't work.

Man Birdie Wing makes golf look like the most self destructive sport imaginable. The girls gonna play golf so hard they literally die. I love watching it for how seriously it takes itself despite being utterly ridiculous. Also I will be sad if there is no yuri kiss next episode (which is likely to end the series) and there probably won't be.

The anime season in general is coming to a close. I need to figure out if i wanna catch up on dr stone and then actually catch up on too cute crisis and kamikatsu. Excited for a new season of mushoku tensei and jujutsu kaisen. This season has had a lot of really great shows but not the best mid to good shows.

https://twitter.com/bokuyaba_anime/status/1670113575330025472
Just keep on winning.
If I were to guess Season 2 would end at Chapter 113/114 which would just be amazing.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/6/AAeEKDAAEk5a.jpg

hell fuckin yes

been playing some monster girl quest paradox since i'm on an rpgmaker spree and holy shit the depth of this game

my friend called this the rance 10 of rpgmakers and now i see why

agesboy posted...

been playing some monster girl quest paradox since i'm on an rpgmaker spree and holy shit the depth of this game

my friend called this the rance 10 of rpgmakers and now i see why

way too many ero rpgmaker games take such a lazy route. :(

Also, been watching Kyuuketsuki Sugu Shinu. It's a gag anime, which I'm not a huge fan of, but can watch every once in a while.

dragon504 posted...

way too many ero rpgmaker games take such a lazy route. :(

i think the rpgmaker games that are a self-contained 5-15 hour romp are fine for what they are, but sometimes they're just insane with the amount of content or quality they deliver

There really are some gems in the ero rpgmaker space. Like, some of these creators given a team and resources even if made to not be 18+ could probably put out masterpieces. And then theres a whole host more that have some really great ideas in one area and just don't really land the rest of it.

It's also made me really consider turn based rpg combat and what can make it fun. As long as it's snappy and gives progress at a good pace, it doesn't really need to be crazy complicated. Like, pretty much every neptunia game has a fairly complicated system with several resources and lining up space and attacks, and yet they fail pretty hard on the balancing side of things so it always falls very flat for me. Meanwhile I can play rando rpgmaker game with just attack, defend, and like 2 skills per person and have a blast because it's well paced and knows when strategy should matter and when it shouldn't.

agree on neptunia being overly complicated and yet not actually deep. i hate how stats are handled in those games. it feels so obfuscated, even when they're constantly shoving numbers in your face. what is actually important??

Well, this weeks heavenly delusion went about as expected. I called right from like episode 3 that robin would be evil and the doc would be a good guy. This show is so good. Just the way they film scenes and handle dialogue makes it almost feel like a movie.

Hell's paradise finally explained a lot more but it kinda feels like it's less interesting now that the cards are on the table. Still enjoyable, just not as much as it was earlier into the season.

i can't say i expected the duel to be...fencing.

guels a good guy

and yeah it feels like they're rushing to the ending. we got the gathering of the "Avengers" in this episode, and next is going to be the big battle. there's probably two episodes left maybe. and there's still an awful lot left to wrap up.

the caliburns appearance this episode was kinda awesome, it's a fucking witches broom,, the pharact is apparently useless so i don't really expect to see much of it anymore, and the lfrith ur is...somewhere, it will likely be what shaddiq'll pilot.

i can't wait until the caliburn kit releases, it looks fuckin dope as fuck. just wish it kinda had some color to it

Just watched the latest g witch episode and man, I mirror your sentiments. Caliburn with the witch aesthetic is pretty awesome and that duel did come as a surprise.

Right now I feel a lot like how I felt with fire emblem three houses where the long school phase for some reason lasted way longer than the interesting part it was setting up. They also completely wasted the 3 kingdoms esque setup even more than fire emblem did by having all the factions not actually matter at all.

While I do think Prospera is an interesting villain with understandable and fairly unique motivations, it has nothing to really do with most of the show making it seem like episode 0 and now are the only plot relevant parts of the whole series.

zenitsu is awesome wtf man

Started watching the newer Bastard! anime over the weekend (or a little before?). I'd heard a bunch of hype over the manga and OVA so, when I saw the new version listed on NF, I figured I'd finally give it a try and... this is fucking dogshit. Just unbelievably bad. So I looked up the OVA episode list and the story sounds identical. If the other version is comparable to this one, I can't believe the franchise gets any praise.

The only kinda-benefit is it makes for a good "Eh, I have a few minutes" anime where I'm not worried about following the whole thing.

Been rewatching mushoku tensei since the new season is about to start. Still just as amazing as I remember. If season 2 doesn't turn out to be anime of the year for me, it'll have been a disappointment.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

zenitsu is awesome wtf man

You the only person I've seen have that opinion. His fighting is cool, but every time he opens his mouth, he makes me want to watch something else. I commend the author on their talent for being able to make such an annoying character in such a successful show.

oh wow i'm actually excited for next season a lot, two of my favs are going anime

https://youtu.be/3VZEVawzgik
https://youtu.be/KdmxkRQshic

agesboy posted...

oh wow i'm actually excited for next season a lot, two of my favs are going anime

Really interesting. The other site I use to talk about anime's consensus seems to be next season will be bad / uninteresting (but it has KanoKari S3 so I don't really care).

it's also got helck and more horimiya and hataraku maou

All I know is I absolutely will not be watching Helck.

Judgmenl posted...

Really interesting. The other site I use to talk about anime's consensus seems to be next season will be bad / uninteresting (but it has KanoKari S3 so I don't really care).

How could the season with mushoku tensei and jujutsu kaisen S2 be bad?

I have no idea what any of those are, beyond "action anime".