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haloiscoolisbak
05/08/22 10:46:31 AM
#52:


yemmy posted...
I've had relationships with 3 women in which had some serious personality disorders, only one of them was diagnosed with BPD (or at least shared the diagnosis of it), but all 3 did a lot of the same things, and all 3 had some sort of childhood abuse or severe neglect.

People outside of these relationships make fun of the "I can fix her" thing, but when you are young and immature and the sex is so good, sometimes you actually think that, but no it is not happening.

Yeah, last girl I dated had BPD and was a childhood abuse sufferer, from her own brother. Did you find yourself excusing all their ridiculous behaviour because of what they'd been through? Like I normally don't let people push me around or treat me unfairly, but because of what she'd gone through I felt myself constantly forgiving her for her behaviour.... Or at least justifying it to myself. (Had nothing to do with the sex which was no better or worse than what I'd had with previous girls)

I eventually ended up so gaslit and confused and hurt. It sucks because I'm someone who considered myself very understanding of mental health issues but now I'm way too scared to date someone like that again

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Scarecrow17
05/08/22 11:40:38 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
Yeah, last girl I dated had BPD and was a childhood abuse sufferer, from her own brother. Did you find yourself excusing all their ridiculous behaviour because of what they'd been through? Like I normally don't let people push me around or treat me unfairly, but because of what she'd gone through I felt myself constantly forgiving her for her behaviour.... Or at least justifying it to myself. (Had nothing to do with the sex which was no better or worse than what I'd had with previous girls)

I eventually ended up so gaslit and confused and hurt. It sucks because I'm someone who considered myself very understanding of mental health issues but now I'm way too scared to date someone like that again

My case is similar to yours with the last girl I dated except she had schizophrenia. I would often give my ex a pass for the ridiculous and abusive behavior she exhibited because of what she went through in the past.

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Koishi
05/08/22 11:41:10 AM
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averagejoel posted...
everyone has issues. people are a lot more than their diagnosis though. you don't really know what she's like until you meet her. meet up with her and see what happens.

QueenCarly posted...
At least give them a chance, people are not their diagnosis.

i say despite my depression havingbasically consumed every aspect of my life so what do I really know
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But for real, go in as you would with anyone. Give them an honest chance.


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Agent_Stroud
05/08/22 11:44:48 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
shes gonna bite your dick off

Kinda like how Ozzie Osborne has a bad habit of biting the heads off small flying critters, amirite?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hc6HtBhYefQ

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Cyberwrath
05/08/22 12:13:11 PM
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I'd abort - Borderline is very difficult to deal with. I have a friend whose mom has it and it's completely ruined her mom's life and their relationship.
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ElatedVenusaur
05/08/22 12:18:14 PM
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You should definitely at least give her a chance. Just because she has BPD doesnt mean its out of control. As was said before, people arent their illnesses.

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RedDevilCat
05/08/22 12:43:22 PM
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Go on the date. I became involved with a college girl with BPD back in 2002. I still think well of her. Everyone has issues, I know I have mine. Don't write her off just because of her illness. I have a mental illness that my wife knew about before we became involved. We are both very happy that she looked past that. It could work out for you as well, or you could crash and burn... but that is with anyone. Go on the date with her.

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BettyWhite
05/08/22 12:53:21 PM
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As a person with BPD I just kinda wanna kick y'all in the teeth.

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Sputnik1337
05/08/22 12:54:16 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Still want to know how tf googling someone turned up their mental health history
She probably has it in her twitter bio

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CRON
05/08/22 12:59:14 PM
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Stop talking to her. Cut all ties immediately. I can't stress this enough. BPD is a curse.

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CRON
05/08/22 12:59:59 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

BPD is one of the worst mental illnesses, bar none. It's untreatable and ends up ruining the lives of literally every single person they have extended contact with.

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Hoodroar
05/08/22 1:00:53 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
cancel the date but be honest about the reason

lol

What you do is go on the date, escalate nothing, then don't go on another one.

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greyfox747
05/08/22 1:02:04 PM
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Are you guys ok

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BettyWhite
05/08/22 1:07:35 PM
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Thank you for being a decent person.

My BPD is largely managed but has triggers that flare when I think a person is mad at me. I largely have control of the nagging fear of them secretly wanting to leave me, but that can surface after a big fight.

For the longest time it has been crippling and made me consider taking my life. Watching assholes like CRON talk to me like I'm a leper is just sickening. I'd rather have crippling attachment issues than be an awful piece of shit.

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KhlavicLanguage
05/08/22 1:07:51 PM
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dated a borderline girl from 2013-2016

genuinely the worst experience of my life, the simplest way to explain it is that they will find any reason to get upset, and once they work themselves up they will find any way to twist your response into a reason to get more upset

the self-harming and substance abuse were all present as well, and were made out to be my fault multiple times despite both well predating and outlasting my presence in her life

borderline isn't a chemical imbalance, it's more like genetic/trauma-induced faulty-wiring. its hallmark symptoms are extremely resistant to treatment, sure they're often on antidepressants and whatnot but those only treat some tertiary symptoms. there's no pill to fix having an inherently fucked sense of how to relate and interact with people.

just don't fucking do it, best case scenario is she ditches you in 2 weeks for the next new-and-shiny, worst-case is she gaslights you into years of putting up with complete insanity a la Ms. Heard
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Neoconkers
05/08/22 1:12:33 PM
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"I don't know this person or how severe their issues are but I looked at the first paragraph of the wikipedia page for their illness so you should trust my opinion on this"

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Gobstoppers12
05/08/22 1:12:34 PM
#72:


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I dont know how on earth you would willingly put yourself through that shit.
I was 18 when I met her, and I was one of those kissless types who was pretty fucking depressed. I thought I was going to be alone forever, so when I met a girl who showed genuine interest in me, I was all-in. I was absolutely 100% committed to making it work. No matter what she hit me with, I tried to reconcile things. I forgave her for cheating, forgave her for calling me worthless, forgave her for belittling me in front of friends...I would have done anything for her, for a long time. Two years, that lasted.

Eventually, she got me to a breaking point. It took a long time. Lots of arguments, lots of promises, lots of threats of self-harm (even though she never actually did it), and just....so much frustration, hopelessness, and a powerful drain from my self-worth.

I realized one day, after she had broken up with me on some nonsense, that my time was worth more than to spend it on being miserable. Every time I got back together with her, I was guaranteeing another week or two of misery, and then it would all happen again. Soooo...I told her no. I said that I still love her, but that we didn't work out as a couple.

It was easier than I thought. It kind of felt like I had been hauling a two hundred pound anvil by a rope wrapped around my neck. And it took me two years to realize I could just...cut the rope, and suddenly the pressure would be gone.

I stayed friends with her for a while, we still talk occasionally even after 14 years. She asked me what I thought about the new World of Warcraft expansion the day it was announced, in fact. She's still nice, and she still reaches out to me to chat, but holy shit was she a fucking nightmare to be in a relationship with. Good friend, but a truly terrible girlfriend.

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BettyWhite
05/08/22 1:13:56 PM
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A lot of armchair psychologists in here like losing teeth.

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BettyWhite
05/08/22 1:14:35 PM
#74:


Neoconkers posted...
"I don't know this person or how severe their issues are but I looked at the first paragraph of the wikipedia page for their illness so you should trust my opinion on this"

Hey now, they may have watched a YouTube video.

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greyfox747
05/08/22 1:16:08 PM
#76:


I dont think that was an invitation for you to continue to talk to that user like theyre subhuman

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Tappor
05/08/22 1:16:57 PM
#77:


I googled the girl I'm supposed to go out with

*leaves topic*

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greyfox747
05/08/22 1:22:23 PM
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He has some very problematic views about the gold standard and I have reason to believe that hes lying about his handicap in golf, but his fan club doesnt like it when you bring that up


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Gobstoppers12
05/08/22 1:29:21 PM
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It's all well and good to say that people can manage their mental illnesses, but...sometimes it's just not worth it to assume the best. Dating anybody with a diagnosed mental illness has the potential to spiral into a bad situation. People who have gone through it are absolutely justified in sharing their personal experiences. That's exactly what the topic is about.

A lot of us have had bad experiences with girls who have this particular diagnosis, so we're sharing our stories because we were prompted. It may not help with the stigma, but sometimes things just need to be said.

It's an extremely common story. It's not 100% of all cases, but these stories (which are all nearly identical to one another) are common enough to make the diagnosis itself a yellow flag, if not a red one. It can still be fun and worthwhile to date somebody with BPD, but there's absolutely a risk involved. Especially given how the relationship almost always starts strong, which can make you think "oh, this isn't so bad," until shit does get bad and you already feel like you're in too deep. It's what happened to me.

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MrToothHasYou
05/08/22 1:34:20 PM
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Cluster B personality disorders get a bad rap but there are some important things to remember: people with mental illness, even these sorts of disorders which are closely associated with toxic, abusive behavior, are still more likely to become the victims of abuse than they are to be the perpetrators of it. In the case of BPD, there is almost always a case of childhood abuse/trauma present. Personality disorders arent just people being evil or whatever, they are a behavioral manifestation of trauma avoidance and (poor) coping mechanisms.

All that said, if you dont think you can hang, then dont. Get out now before you make it any harder on either her or yourself, youll be doing both of you a favor.

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BettyWhite
05/08/22 1:34:46 PM
#85:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's all well and good to say that people can manage their mental illnesses, but...sometimes it's just not worth it to assume the best. Dating anybody with a diagnosed mental illness has the potential to spiral into a bad situation. People who have gone through it are absolutely justified in sharing their personal experiences. That's exactly what the topic is about.

A lot of us have had bad experiences with girls who have this particular diagnosis, so we're sharing our stories because we were prompted. It may not help with the stigma, but sometimes things just need to be said.

It's an extremely common story. It's not 100% of all cases, but these stories (which are all nearly identical to one another) are common enough to make the diagnosis itself a yellow flag, if not a red one. It can still be fun and worthwhile to date somebody with BPD, but there's absolutely a risk involved. Especially given how the relationship almost always starts strong, which can make you think "oh, this isn't so bad," until shit does get bad and you already feel like you're in too deep. It's what happened to me.

The basic sentiment of "Run away from them because they are going to ruin your life" constantly echoed throughout this topic essentially says that we as trauma survivors don't deserve love or the opportunity to overcome our disorder.

While at the very heart of my disorder is me feeling that I don't deserve to be loved...

I hope everyone can see why this would be rather damaging.

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CrimsonAngel
05/08/22 1:36:27 PM
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Stop responding to Gob

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Gobstoppers12
05/08/22 1:38:11 PM
#89:


BettyWhite posted...
I hope everyone can see why this would be rather damaging.
My relationship with this girl was heavily traumatic, too. I felt absolutely worthless for two years straight. It kind of cuts both ways, don't you think?

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greyfox747
05/08/22 1:39:45 PM
#90:


BettyWhite posted...
The basic sentiment of "Run away from them because they are going to ruin your life" constantly echoed throughout this topic essentially says that we as trauma survivors don't deserve love or the opportunity to overcome our disorder.

While at the very heart of my disorder is me feeling that I don't deserve to be loved...

I hope everyone can see why this would be rather damaging.
You have to remember that gobby doesnt care about how he makes other people feel.

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Gobstoppers12
05/08/22 1:42:21 PM
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Two sides to every story. Not everybody with BPD is going to be an abuser, obviously...but there are a lot of people who have been flagrantly abused by individuals with BPD, and that side of the story deserves representation, too.

You are beyond free to stick up for people who have BPD and present positive examples, but those of us who have had severely abusive relationships with said individuals are also free to share those experiences.

Awareness is key, and part of awareness is knowing both the positives and negatives--you have to be aware of the potential downsides as well as the potential upsides. Mental illness is tricky, because it's a balance between having sympathy for the one who's experiencing the illness, but also sympathy for the other people whom their illness is affecting negatively.

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Crimson_Corsair
05/08/22 1:42:24 PM
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Is his date Amber Heard?

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averagejoel
05/08/22 1:42:29 PM
#93:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
My relationship with this girl was heavily traumatic, too. I felt absolutely worthless for two years straight. It kind of cuts both ways, don't you think?
your personal experience is not extrapolatable.

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BettyWhite
05/08/22 1:44:57 PM
#94:


greyfox747 posted...
You have to remember that gobby doesnt care about how he makes other people feel.

Like man if I was reading this shit in the past during an episode it would fuck me up because in the past I've believed everything he has said. Like I have been awful in relationships and have felt like there's no way anyone should ever have to deal with me.


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thronedfire2
05/08/22 1:47:20 PM
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Phenomenal_one posted...
Access main program. Access main security. Access main program grid.

Uh uh uh, you didnt say the magic word.

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haloiscoolisbak
05/08/22 1:47:32 PM
#96:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Cluster B personality disorders get a bad rap but there are some important things to remember: people with mental illness, even these sorts of disorders which are closely associated with toxic, abusive behavior, are still more likely to become the victims of abuse than they are to be the perpetrators of it. In the case of BPD, there is almost always a case of childhood abuse/trauma present. Personality disorders arent just people being evil or whatever, they are a behavioral manifestation of trauma avoidance and (poor) coping mechanisms.

All that said, if you dont think you can hang, then dont. Get out now before you make it any harder on either her or yourself, youll be doing both of you a favor.


So with dating, someone having pre loaded reasons for their inconsistent or difficult behaviour (and I very much acknowledge they are genuine reasons, not flimsy excuses) doesn't make it any less difficult for the person trying to date them. For me it made things far worse because I felt I couldn't hold them to the standards of a mentally healthy person.

TC was asking for dating advice and he got it. And that advice came in the form of personal stories

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Gobstoppers12
05/08/22 1:49:07 PM
#97:


averagejoel posted...
your personal experience is not extrapolatable.
It will always be anecdotal because it's not exactly supported by a larger study, but...I'm far from the only one who has had this exact experience. It's worth talking about.

Positivity is all well and good but sometimes the story needs to be shared.


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averagejoel
05/08/22 1:50:30 PM
#98:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It will always be anecdotal because it's not exactly supported by a larger study, but...I'm far from the only one who has had this exact experience. It's worth talking about.

Positivity is all well and good but sometimes the story needs to be shared.
most people don't have the proper context to fit your anecdotes into. what you are doing is misleading and stigmatizing.

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Phenomenal_one
05/08/22 1:50:34 PM
#99:


greyfox747 posted...
Are you guys ok

im good, thanks for asking. How are you?

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haloiscoolisbak
05/08/22 1:55:40 PM
#100:


averagejoel posted...
most people don't have the proper context to fit your anecdotes into. what you are doing is misleading and stigmatizing.

What's he's most likely doing is helping someone dodge a bullet.

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CRON
05/08/22 1:57:20 PM
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This is a very frustrating topic to talk about, especially as someone who has been abused in multiple ways by multiple people with BPD. I feel like I can't open up without peoples' main concern being "don't stigmatize them!", rather than you know... the abuse.

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Sad_Face
05/08/22 2:01:13 PM
#102:


BettyWhite posted...

While at the very heart of my disorder is me feeling that I don't deserve to be loved...

I hope everyone can see why this would be rather damaging.


It is unfortunate, but do recognize that posters are prioritizing their own well being first and foremost, hence their direct and blunt statements. People's decisions will be motivated by self preservation unless they have a grander vision or care about some cause or someone more.

Since we have numerous posts on what the worst case scenario is, why not talk about how you manage it to be in working relationship? This way, if OP decides to pursue the girl, he'll know the signs of what to look for to know the girl in question is making an effort to manage her disorder and he can be assured there's a future with the girl?

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haloiscoolisbak
05/08/22 2:03:04 PM
#104:


CRON posted...
This is a very frustrating topic to talk about, especially as someone who has been abused in multiple ways by multiple people with BPD. I feel like I can't open up without peoples' main concern being "don't stigmatize them!", rather than you know... the abuse.

Yeah, it's like the red flag of dating someone with a severe mental illness is too obvious and huge that it's come full circle and we have to pretend it's nothing

I say this as someone who's been diagnosed with Schizophrenia. I absolutely would understand someone being scared off by that

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