Board 8 > WandaVision starts streaming tomorrow on Disney+

(+) Yeah! (+)

Its interesting that this show actually takes place before FFH.

I assumed that JK Simmons showing up was just Marvel being smart about casting the best possible actor for the role... but what if hes actually been multiversed over somehow?
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GuessMyUserName posted...

tbf Spider-Man 3 lookin' like a multiversal cream pie

Didn't the Brits try to ban those kind of videos?

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Its interesting that this show actually takes place before FFH.

I assumed that JK Simmons showing up was just Marvel being smart about casting the best possible actor for the role... but what if hes actually been multiversed over somehow?

Even after everything we've seen in universe and heard about in the rumor mill I hadn't thought of that. BUT... It's JK Simmons. Why would you ever question JK Simmons playing a role, any role? If this multiverse stuff is real I demand JK Simmons plays at least three versions of JJJ because he's already played two alternate universe versions of one character in Counterpart (which was great).

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If the next Spider-Man has multiverse stuff as rumored, I definitely want multiple JJJs to be part of it.
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yo

what the fuck

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

Okay, I'm going for it - Speculation - Agnes is actually the one mind-controlling everyone (Norm only ever says "she," not who she is) because Wanda may be able to do something she can't (like bring a dead person back to life, perhaps this Ralph character she mentions and we never see). She's also there both times the boys age up and (as I mentioned before) she has something potentially sinister to say about the dog just moments before it dies. Perhaps she was trying to manipulate Wanda into bringing the dog back proving it could be done using the grief of Wanda's twins as a catalyst. Only just before Wanda can, Vis shows up. Vis, who has been noticing how Agnes just happens to always be there when it's convenient, have what ever the situation calls for, and isn't actually being controlled by Wanda.
Meanwhile, Heyward would be more than happy to dispose of Wanda because he and SWORD were the ones trying to use Vision as a weapon (when Wanda bursts in they have Vis further disassembled as if they are studying him).

I agree that Agnes is probably behind this somehow, but also I really like that second point - I think there was some misdirection here and it's SWORD who was violating Vision's will by studying him for weapons capabilities and Wanda is the one who stopped it. That makes it make a ton of sense that Wanda would angrily break in and steal him

Paratroopa1 posted...

I think it's possible that the casting is BOTH just an easter egg and ALSO a hint at things to come

Like it might not literally be the same character... but it might not be nothing either

They already teased us with the multiverse fakeout in Far From Home though lol

Whatever his identity, it does seem like him being there is the next step in somebody's plan. In ep2 we had a lot of talk about kids, including that weird "for the children" bit to put the idea of kids in Wanda's head, and by the end of the episode she's pregnant. Then, having had the kids, they put the idea of bringing someone back in her head via the whole dog scenario. Definitely feels like he's the next step in a plan, but to what end I have no idea.

It might be Agnes. She seems to have more autonomy than the other residents especially in this episode, she wasn't ID-ed in ep4 like everyone else, and she instigated both the fundraiser and the dog episodes. And when Vision got through to Norm, he kept saying "she" was doing it, which we're meant to think means Wanda but could just as easily be her.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that weird "for the children" stuff in ep2, that must connection to Vision's 'why are there no children in Westview' thing somehow

And yeah, that's a good point, Norm could very well have been talking about Agnes

It would make sense if the twist was that it isn't Wanda, since that would make Wanda a lot more sympathetic in the end

Paratroopa1 posted...

It would make sense if the twist was that it isn't Wanda, since that would make Wanda a lot more sympathetic in the end

I think that'd be a massive cop-out tbqh but I also think you're right

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Johnbobb posted...

I swear if Mary Kate and Ashley show up next episode

i'd love to see them but i expect the next episode to be friends-themed tbqh.

i know full house continued well into the '90s but it started in '87.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i'd love to see them but i expect the next episode to be friends-themed tbqh.

i know full house continued well into the '90s but it started in '87.

Theres still 4 episodes left. They can afford to double up on a decade.

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I got an early 80's Family Ties vibe off this episode rather than Full House.

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Each episode has focused on a family sitcom since Wanda wants a family. That's why I doubt the next episode would be based on something like Friends or Saved By the Bell. Instead what's the most iconic 90s family sitcom? You could throw Family Matters or Fresh Prince of Bel Air out there, but Full House would be at the top of the list. The Olsen connection just makes it a little more interesting.

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About Pietro, I agree that regardless of his true identity/origin, he is here not because of Wanda but because of the manipulations of the real villain. The shock of his arrival is going to lull Wanda and Vision back into complacency/compliance for the next couple episodes.

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Olsen Twins are not going to show up. they both totally quit acting. The last credit either of them has is back in 2011. They didnt even make any sort of appearance on Fuller House.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Olsen Twins are not going to show up. they both totally quit acting. The last credit either of them has is back in 2011. They didnt even make any sort of appearance on Fuller House.

That is true. However, Pietro would make a great Uncle Jesse!!

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cyko posted...

That is true. However, Pietro would make a great Uncle Jesse!!

He even had twins with Aunt Becky!

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Oh I love how Darcy, Woo and Rambeau essentially had a youtube argument about Wanda vs Thanos and Captain Marvel vs Thanos
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Episode 5 was so good. I'm really impressed at what they're doing with the show.

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bryans7 posted...

I got an early 80's Family Ties vibe off this episode rather than Full House.

The title sequence was based on Family Ties (the painting), Growing Pains (the pictures of each character growing up) and possibly Full House (running around the park).

The house layout was based on Full House: front door on the left that steps down into the living room, staircase going up to the left, large windows behind the sofa, kitchen on the right. However the darker color scheme did remind me of Family Ties.

For the 90s, I was hoping it would be based on Married With Children, and the more dysfunctional family dynamics would represent Wanda losing control of the TV world and Vision becoming more suspicious, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. The most famous 90s domestic sitcom was probably Home Improvement so I expect at least a neighbor hidden behind a fence in the next era.

Looks like I'm alone here, but I wasn't a massive fan of everything going on this week. I like the stuff in Westview quite a bit but god SWORD just grinds things to a halt for me. The acting, direction, 'snappy' dialogues that are largely just meta fan conversations or snarky jokes, everything outside the anomaly is just markedly worse in every respect as far as I'm concerned. Even the set just becomes blue-grey and shiny and the score is repetitive as hell. I think the Westview stuff in contrast just highlights how bland I find the regular Marvel house style.

I guess cos I'm not an MCU guy it's not meant for me, and maybe it's because I'm not familiar with most of the characters outside of this show, but I don't connect to them at all and the Westview crew are just so much more layered and enjoyable to watch. Also the implication that some external evil force is behind things is very lame, I hope it doesn't wind up that simple.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I'm just worried that it's quickly going to become a rote Marvel affair now things are out in the open.

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I think this was probably the best episode so far because the stuff in Westview was so well-realized but big agree with your assessment of the rest.

With the exception of a few scenes like Monica and the drone forcing Wanda to appear, too much of the SWORD stuff feels unnecessary. I know people are super into the MCU and here for it but as someone not totally enamored with it anymore it just comes across as talking down to the audience and explaining itself. And I really wish they had a but more courage or respect for the viewers to cut that out.

As an example, I didn't realize it was Foxsilver until I read it in this topic. But that joke and twist works even if you don't know that, and it doesn't require an explainer in the actual show! I think that shit is honestly great. The Mandalorian is also like this where there are tons of references but they don't kill momentum by explaining every single one in universe. I was just hoping for something more like that but that's not the MCU style.

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the standard MCU stuff is crap. that's why episode 4 was easily the worst one so far. kinda surprised at how much people are eating this shit up tbqh - didn't we all agree that kat dennings sucked when she was in the thor movies? when did we collectively decide she's cool now? well, maybe i'm exaggerating how much people disliked her in the first place.

however, the westview stuff in episode 5 was so good that i'm willing to give the MCU stuff a pass.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

didn't we all agree that kat dennings sucked when she was in the thor movies?

No.

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k

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I didnt even realize she was a returning character at first because I couldnt remember her at all lol

I've always been cool with dennings

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I was really surprised they brought her back because she was sort of a nothing character in two of the worst movies, but i like her well enough.
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Kat Dennings is fine, but I don't really like the character that much. But I'm not like opposed to her being here.

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Kat Dennings is okay but it's not like she's actively detrimental to the show.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

didn't we all agree that kat dennings sucked when she was in the thor movies?

I didnt agree with this, and I feel like I probably wouldnt like her haters irl tbh.

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GANON1025 posted...

There is something about this panel I am just noticing for the first time.

Why is there a comma in that sentence?

This is bothering me.

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redrocket posted...

There is something about this panel I am just noticing for the first time.

Why is there a comma in that sentence?

This is bothering me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuL6PcgSgM

it's an edit

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Goddamn you, Photoshop.

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redrocket posted...

There is something about this panel I am just noticing for the first time.

Why is there a comma in that sentence?

This is bothering me.

The comma is new and changing the context to make it a meme.

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redrocket posted...

I didnt agree with this, and I feel like I probably wouldnt like her haters irl tbh.

lol wut? you would dislike me irl for disliking an MCU character?

there's plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike me but that's a pretty weird one!

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That wouldnt be the reason itself. Im saying theres a good chance that hating that character is correlated with personalities that annoy me.

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such as?

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I hate Wanda Maximoff for her comics iteration and I can't separate that from her MCU variation. The human mind just works that way sometimes.

I also hate Wanda for exactly the same reasons as I hate Zatanna, for things they both did at approximately the same time.

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That said, I've been enjoying WandaVision, but I have a hard time not grading it on the Mandalorian curve.

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Sticks in the mud, no fun allowed guys, and try hards

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scarletspeed7 posted...

That said, I've been enjoying WandaVision, but I have a hard time not grading it on the Mandalorian curve.

As in, comparing to the Mandalorian, or do you mean something else?

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I didn't like Darcy very much in Thor but I like her here, I think it's well suited for her character. I like the whole "Avengers of side characters" thing she has going with Monica Rambeau and Jimmy Woo (yeah Monica probably won't be a side character for very long but right now she is).

Fuck that was so good

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scarletspeed7 posted...

I also hate Wanda for exactly the same reasons as I hate Zatanna, for things they both did at approximately the same time.

Oh what did they do? I never cared much for either of them in comics, Zatanna especially I always found rather dull. Though I can't recall her doing anything to outright offend.

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Zatanna's Identity Crisis and Wanda's House of M are on equal footing.

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I've been watching one episode a week (as in, I watched ep 2 a week after ep 1, so I was always a week behind) but I decided to catch up after all the murmurings of the cameo because that would definitely be something that I would've gotten spoiled on at some point. As interesting as X-Men Quicksilver is, part of me is disappointed it's not the actual actor, but I guess that wouldn't kick things up as much as Xquick will do.

Also I don't know if this is a common theory but Monica is totally not Monica, she's a Skrull, that's why her scans were blank and she didn't want to talk about Captain Marvel.

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RyoCaliente posted...

I've been watching one episode a week (as in, I watched ep 2 a week after ep 1, so I was always a week behind) but I decided to catch up after all the murmurings of the cameo because that would definitely be something that I would've gotten spoiled on at some point. As interesting as X-Men Quicksilver is, part of me is disappointed it's not the actual actor, but I guess that wouldn't kick things up as much as Xquick will do.

Also I don't know if this is a common theory but Monica is totally not Monica, she's a Skrull, that's why her scans were blank and she didn't want to talk about Captain Marvel.

I feel like Captain Marvel is just a sore subject for Monica because her mom died and she wasn't there to help but maybe there's some other tension we don't know about, I dunno why a Skrull would have that reaction in particular though, if anything they'd be less likely to? They stay really in-character but don't always know deeper secrets so they'd probably assume Monica was fine talking about Captain Marvel

RyoCaliente posted...

I've been watching one episode a week (as in, I watched ep 2 a week after ep 1, so I was always a week behind) but I decided to catch up after all the murmurings of the cameo because that would definitely be something that I would've gotten spoiled on at some point. As interesting as X-Men Quicksilver is, part of me is disappointed it's not the actual actor, but I guess that wouldn't kick things up as much as Xquick will do.

Also I don't know if this is a common theory but Monica is totally not Monica, she's a Skrull, that's why her scans were blank and she didn't want to talk about Captain Marvel.

I never considered that, but I'd imagine a skrull's brain could still be scanned.

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