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PerfectChaosZ 01/31/21 7:56:17 PM #152: |
How could you have Emma Caufield and not have be important. I hope she is someone awesome.
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ChichiriMuyo 02/01/21 5:53:08 AM #153: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
She's also very well aware that Vision is dead and that none of this is real. But I will say it probably makes more sense that she has come to terms with Pietro's death by now than she has with Vision's.Her rational self knows, but she's clearly not being totally rational. andylt posted... I'm not really familiar with Vision and Wanda outside of this show but I heard somebody say that Vision doesn't have superspeed normally,He does. He has the "standard package" of enhanced strength/speed/durability/agility. --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 02/03/21 2:25:21 AM #154: |
I just got caught up and this show absolutely slaps, I love both the homage to TV sitcoms as well as the larger plot stuff
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PrivateBiscuit1 02/03/21 2:28:24 AM #155: |
I am liking the show, but I felt the first episode was a complete waste. The pacing of this show was a bit off, and I can understand why people were put off at first. The first episode really needed more to grab onto because if you removed it from the series so far, you don't really miss a single thing.
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Paratroopa1 02/03/21 2:30:30 AM #156: |
I think the first episode was brilliant, it establishes the sitcom and it made me laugh a lot, I was just there for the style parody honestly, I knew where the plot was going to go anyway so I wasn't in a rush to get there
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Grand Kirby 02/03/21 2:41:55 AM #157: |
I loved the fact they let the first episode stand as its own thing. One thing I was worried going into this was they'd panic and be afraid that they'd lose the viewer's interest without including obvious plot points about what the story is really about or throwing in big showy action and drama scenes upfront to placate the Marvel brand's expectations. But having the first episode just be a standard sitcom plot with only little else to give things away works really well to keep things surreal and shows a lot of faith in the patience of the audience. I absolutely appreciate it, and more shows and media could do well to have that subtlety and willingness to commit to daring things like that.
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Paratroopa1 02/03/21 2:43:46 AM #158: |
Grand Kirby posted...
I loved the fact they let the first episode stand as its own thing. One thing I was worried going into this was they'd panic and be afraid that they'd lose the viewer's interest without including obvious plot points about what the story is really about or throwing in big showy action and drama scenes upfront to placate the Marvel brand's expectations. But having the first episode just be a standard sitcom plot with only little else to give things away works really well to keep things surreal and shows a lot of faith in the patience of the audience. I absolutely appreciate it, and more shows and media could do well to have that subtlety and willingness to commit to daring things like that.Yeah, completely agree with this. And I mean, I LIKE the standard MCU stuff. But I'm glad that they dared to not dip into that well too quickly and just really lean on the sitcom homage stuff - I think it makes the future episodes stronger. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aecioo 02/03/21 7:46:26 AM #159: |
Let's be honest here, they released episodes one and two together because they wanted to get past the sitcom stuff faster. I wouldn't necessarily call it brave by them - they were hedging their bets the entire time
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PrivateBiscuit1 02/03/21 11:15:55 AM #160: |
I think y'all are crazy and are just fellating the first episode being what it is to justify you liking it a ton. lol Like, if you like it that's totally fine, but there's no reason for it to be an entire episode that if you remove it, you lose absolutely nothing in the series. It's not a great move and like Aecioo said, it's not brave. It's just poorly paced. You can keep the episode surreal while also including things to intrigue the audience. If any other show did something like this for their first episode, it would be wildly panned for not roping the audience in enough.
Like I said though, this series does a lot of good stuff and I'm really enjoying it, and they clearly have a solid handle on writing. But that first episode is just fluff and a bad choice, considering the backlash they've received. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 02/03/21 11:27:20 AM #161: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I think y'all are crazy and are just fellating the first episode being what it is to justify you liking it a ton. lol Like, if you like it that's totally fine, but there's no reason for it to be an entire episode that if you remove it, you lose absolutely nothing in the series. It's not a great move and like Aecioo said, it's not brave. It's just poorly paced. You can keep the episode surreal while also including things to intrigue the audience. If any other show did something like this for their first episode, it would be wildly panned for not roping the audience in enough.You got an links to this backlash? From what I have seen it's been mostly liked. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 02/03/21 11:30:32 AM #162: |
Episode 1 has probably been my favorite episode so far!
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HeroDelTiempo17 02/03/21 11:32:43 AM #163: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I think y'all are crazy and are just fellating the first episode being what it is to justify you liking it a ton. I mean I could say the same thing about people fellating the 4th episode for being generic MCU exposition. <_< But I also think you're wrong, it's important thematically to have more "normal" sitcom episodes before getting too weird, and the first episode (as well as the second, which is so far the best episode) works much better as an actual sitcom than episode three which is structured entirely around a development in the meta-plotline. I also think you're wrong when you compare it to other shows and saying it deserves to be panned. WandaVision's format is super accessible - close to 30m episodes and a miniseries with a small number of episodes - so unlike an hour long drama series it can actually afford to fuck around for an episode without dragging too much. Aecioo posted... Let's be honest here, they released episodes one and two together because they wanted to get past the sitcom stuff faster. I wouldn't necessarily call it brave by them - they were hedging their bets the entire time This is spot on though - there's clearly a lot of hedging going on because they were terrified of this exact reaction. They didn't think MCU fans as a whole would enjoy the sitcom element and I guess they were right. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/03/21 11:32:45 AM #164: |
Sitcom stuff is great but I can also agree they wanted to get past it quickly in case people didn't like it
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ScepterOfLove 02/03/21 11:45:27 AM #165: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I think y'all are crazy and are just fellating the first episode being what it is to justify you liking it a ton. lol Like, if you like it that's totally fine, but there's no reason for it to be an entire episode that if you remove it, you lose absolutely nothing in the series. It's not a great move and like Aecioo said, it's not brave. It's just poorly paced. You can keep the episode surreal while also including things to intrigue the audience. If any other show did something like this for their first episode, it would be wildly panned for not roping the audience in enough. Couldn't disagree with this assessment more. The first episode sets the bar for the wonderful performances of Olsen and Bettany and includes some of the best comedic and creepy moments of the show, like the choking scene. Just because the plot doesn't advance at 100mph for the first 20 minutes of the show doesn't mean it has pacing issues - it just means they're laying the groundwork for what's to come. They have to establish an actual status quo before they start tearing it down in every subsequent episode. I feel like people forget that in the age of binge watching. Also don't know what backlash you're talking about. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 02/03/21 11:49:58 AM #166: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
You got an links to this backlash? From what I have seen it's been mostly liked.It got enough backlash that they had to apologize for the pacing of the show and tell everyone the other shows will be standard pacing for fans of the MCU. HeroDelTiempo17 posted... I mean I could say the same thing about people fellating the 4th episode for being generic MCU exposition. <_<Well first, you assume when I say it doesn't have anything to dig into, I mean that I wanted it to get weird. It doesn't have to get weird. It's just generic sitcom stuff. Doesn't have a lot of character work in it. It establishes things at a very base level. I felt it drug on because I just didn't care about the characters at all in this universe and it was just generic 50's sitcom hijinx. It just didn't have a lot there. If you enjoyed it, power to you. But I think claiming it's something brilliant is just weird. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 02/03/21 11:55:20 AM #167: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
The first episode really needed more to grab onto because if you removed it from the series so far, you don't really miss a single thing. disagree. if you don't watch episode 1, you miss a ton of clues/easter eggs. that being said, i do agree that this episode wasn't that great. i'm fine with the '50s sitcom style but... i didn't think this episode was that funny? like, i've seen several episodes of i love lucy i thought were way funnier than this. with how much people were hyping how this episode "nailed" it, i was disappointed. they nailed the style, sure, but the substance wasn't that strong. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 02/03/21 11:59:56 AM #168: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
It got enough backlash that they had to apologize for the pacing of the show and tell everyone the other shows will be standard pacing for fans of the MCU.Link? Because I doubt this. --- I'm not sure who this MI guy is but he sounds sexy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 02/03/21 12:19:16 PM #169: |
TotallyNotMI posted...
Link? Because I doubt this. Um, yeah, I have seen none of this so called backlash and definitely no apologies. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 02/03/21 12:22:06 PM #170: |
Like, are you getting your info from news sites like We Got This Covered?
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IfGodCouldDie 02/03/21 12:38:02 PM #171: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
This is spot on though - there's clearly a lot of hedging going on because they were terrified of this exact reaction. They didn't think MCU fans as a whole would enjoy the sitcom element and I guess they were right.I don't agree, most people that I have spoken too have enjoyed the departure from the MCU norm. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 02/03/21 12:39:23 PM #172: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
It got enough backlash that they had to apologize for the pacing of the show and tell everyone the other shows will be standard pacing for fans of the MCU. IfGodCouldDie posted... You got an links to this backlash? From what I have seen it's been mostly liked. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 02/03/21 8:33:29 PM #173: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I think y'all are crazy and are just fellating the first episode being what it is to justify you liking it a ton.lol, fuck you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 02/03/21 8:45:48 PM #174: |
first episode is the best one
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Pokalicious 02/03/21 10:01:52 PM #175: |
2 > 4 > 1 > 3
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PrestonWheee 02/03/21 11:43:51 PM #176: |
Why is this topic 175 replies long?
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IfGodCouldDie 02/03/21 11:56:38 PM #177: |
Because it has been going for over 4 weeks and is about a show in the MCU.
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Leonhart4 02/03/21 11:57:06 PM #178: |
PrestonWheee posted...
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MoogleKupo141 02/05/21 3:22:39 AM #179: |
these intros are all so good
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BetrayedTangy 02/05/21 3:38:34 AM #180: |
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MoogleKupo141 02/05/21 3:48:16 AM #181: |
ok yeah wow that was a pretty good ep
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IfGodCouldDie 02/05/21 3:51:41 AM #182: |
Only watched the cold open and the intro so far, but
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Grand Kirby 02/05/21 3:59:29 AM #183: |
Ep 5:
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Paratroopa1 02/05/21 4:51:33 AM #184: |
holy shit lmao this fucking show
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XIII_rocks 02/05/21 5:06:43 AM #185: |
God damnit OSN didn't get the episode yet
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ChichiriMuyo 02/05/21 5:33:31 AM #186: |
Well I certainly didn't see THAT coming. No, not at all. How they managed to keep that secret is unbelievable. Disney couldn't even keep that Mandalorian recast a secret, but this one they could. The whole thing... hats off to Marvel.
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Paratroopa1 02/05/21 5:46:03 AM #187: |
Can I rerank the MCU movies and put WandaVision in the top 5 please
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XIII_rocks 02/05/21 6:58:08 AM #188: |
Holy fuck
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MoogleKupo141 02/05/21 7:00:19 AM #189: |
Im seriously so happy that this show turned out to be good. Wanda and especially Vision have been pretty underutilized in the movies (to the point that I always wonder if anyone who didnt read comics actually cares about them), so its really awesome that theyre getting such a strong showcase now.
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Paratroopa1 02/05/21 7:21:15 AM #190: |
It's really funny and weird that the best showcase of Vision we get is him pretending to be a sitcom dad
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ChichiriMuyo 02/05/21 7:27:06 AM #191: |
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XIII_rocks 02/05/21 7:46:01 AM #192: |
Paul Bettany has always been good, ever since A Knight's Tale
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IfGodCouldDie 02/05/21 7:58:25 AM #193: |
So my personal highlights...
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ninkendo 02/05/21 8:58:13 AM #194: |
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ZenOfThunder 02/05/21 9:24:48 AM #195: |
5th episode best episode
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bryans7 02/05/21 9:43:06 AM #196: |
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IfGodCouldDie 02/05/21 10:03:02 AM #197: |
ZenOfThunder posted...
5th episode best episodeFor sure. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 02/05/21 10:38:31 AM #198: |
yeah, best episode by far so far.
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XIII_rocks 02/05/21 10:41:18 AM #199: |
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WazzupGenius00 02/05/21 11:02:49 AM #200: |
I dont think that was a fact known to the public in the comics so even if they decide its true, SWORD might not know about it
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Mr Lasastryke 02/05/21 11:08:11 AM #201: |
WazzupGenius00 posted...
I dont think that was a fact known to the public in the comics so even if they decide its true, SWORD might not know about it don't get why they would give a different name for the dad then, though. if they don't know, shouldn't they say "father unknown"? unless they just have incorrect information for some reason, i guess. but also makes sense. and yeah, i wasn't aware of that retcon. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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