Board 8 > Coronavirus Topic 5: rNaught Your GrandDaddy's Virus

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

ulti where is the total two week lock down

Ask his source: @SavageInTheBox

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

ulti where is the total two week lock down

The one time I really wanted him to be right he isn't... instead it's nearly the complete opposite and Trump goes batshit insane.
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v_charon posted...

The one time I really wanted him to be right he isn't... instead it's nearly the complete opposite and Trump goes batshit insane.

And yet, somehow, his approval rating has never been higher...

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It's almost like the human race is terrible or something.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/03/24/social-distancing-maps-cellphone-location/

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Hey my state has an A, awesome. In other news Charlie Baker just extended the school shutdown til May 4th. These kids aint going back

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at that point, why would you even pretend the school year exists. just cancel it.

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Yeah, MD extended it to like April 27th. Just punt it.

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FFDragon posted...

Yeah, MD extended it to like April 27th. Just punt it.

Some schools are transitioning to online. My local districts are.

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Wanglicious posted...

at that point, why would you even pretend the school year exists. just cancel it.

There are still a lot of people treating this like a vacation. I don't believe announcing school is closed for the year is smart just yet.
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except other states have already done that and if you extend it to may, you might as well to june because nobody's doing that.


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My school's are doing the 2 weeks at a time thing with the school being made up when they come back until June 30th. If further, switching to an online instruction system


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Wanglicious posted...

at that point, why would you even pretend the school year exists. just cancel it.

Apparently people like false hope?
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people seem to need false hope

In my work group chat I said we are probably done the school year and was bombarded with how dare I be so negative.

People don't want realistic, they want a fairy tale

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like the school year already is once you pass spring break, it's a home stretch to the end of the year. asking for something later than that is silly.

for something not silly and likely a sign of things to come for other states:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1242916619518689286


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I feel like a longer grace period isnt the same as suspending payments

That sounds to me like you will still have the exact same bills, just longer to pay them
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Jakyl25 posted...

I feel like a longer grace period isnt the same as suspending payments

That sounds to me like you will still have the exact same bills, just longer to pay them

It's the same as the freezes going on. Like, sure your rent isn't due for 3 months, but then you have a 4 month rent bill the 4th month. Utilities, etc.

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Thats really not a ton of help!
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Jakyl25 posted...

Thats really not a ton of help!

It is potentially helpful, but they probably need to suspend it over a longer period. Like suppose nonessential jobs are shut down for 3 months; it would be helpful to say that you need to have nothing paid after month 3, the first 4 months paid after month 6, the first 8 after month 9, and everything paid by month 12.

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Corrik7 posted...

Ask his source: @SavageInTheBox

I never said it was a guarantee, troll

I was warning people as to the possibility based on info I was recieving at work. You guys got the same info I gave my family

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SavageInTheBox posted...

I never said it was a guarantee, troll

I was warning people as to the possibility based on info I was recieving at work. You guys got the same info I gave my family

Lol called me a troll. You said Ulti was simply sourcing you in his stuff, so I said to ask you.

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Someone I know likely has it. I say likely because he couldn't get tested, but his doctor apparently said that he probably did have it.

Fortunately I haven't seen him in over a month, but he said it's been pretty bad.

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Minnesota officially shelter-in-place until April 10.

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My grandpa has been tested (results not back). I guess they don't think it's covid-19 that he has because as I understand it there haven't been any respiratory symptoms, but it's still worrying regardless. (Also he's old enough that any illness has the potential for severe complications I would think)
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Strife2 posted...

Minnesota officially shelter-in-place until April 10.

Just in time to pack the churches for Easter!

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Forget church. More time to bust through P5R.

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41 employees at my hospital tested positive. Cant wait to get back to work!

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https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1242979638172925952?s=20

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Prince Charles tests positive
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52033845

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Ryokles posted...

41 employees at my hospital tested positive. Cant wait to get back to work!

Is this happening/going to happen at most hospitals or was yours particularly poorly equipped to handle this relative to other hospitals?
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Got word from my former coworker that the entire night shift transport staff for one of the hospitals I used to manage tested positive, so that hospital has no on site transport for at least two weeks and will either have to bring in temps or have the nurses and doctors transport patients.

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Well theres something like 20k employees at my hospital so I guess it was bound to get at least a few. Apparently theyre claiming that most didnt get it at work since we still have a good bit of PPE left but who even knows

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Things in Texas apparently aren't really looking too good. My city still hasn't taken any measures at all. I work at a pharmacy and we've been crazy busy with both preppers and just the usual customers. Mostly old people. *sigh*

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I assume you meant preppers but thats a fun visual
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Yeah sorry lol

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Wow, good on NYU:

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1242654452072546304

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The Senate has passed their bill (with the Sasse amendment having failed):

https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1243021921672998918

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Wow, good on NYU:

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1242654452072546304

battlefield promotions are never a great sign

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Spain's numbers:
Active cases: 56.188 (+8.578; increased testing capacity already in place)
Active cases in ICU: 3.679 (+513, really worrying number)
Deaths: 4.089 (+655, less than the previous day for the first time since the outbreak)
Recovered: 7.015 (+1.648)

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I just wanna point out that New York City has 8.5 million people in 303 square miles.

This virus is obviously going to spread fast through it.

For reference,

Italy has 60 million people about 7x more population spread over 116,348 square miles.

Their biggest city is Rome at like 2.2 million which is 496 square miles.

So Italy has 7x more population than NYC but in a 385x larger area.


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Density obviously plays a part, but i don't think you can just point to that to explain the catastrophic spread. Seoul, and SK in general, is more dense and they managed to contain it.

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800 new cases in my country today. huge increase compared to yesterday.

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We are like 10,000 deaths away from the estimated flu deaths in the 2018 flu season.

500,000 people tested positive so far for corona

Estimated 35.5 million people had the flu in that season.

Are people still just calling this a bad flu?


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Obellisk posted...

We are like 10,000 deaths away from the estimated flu deaths in the 2018 flu season.

500,000 people tested positive so far for corona

Estimated 35.5 million people had the flu in that season.

Are people still just calling this a bad flu?

I think you have the flu deaths confused.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

It is potentially helpful, but they probably need to suspend it over a longer period. Like suppose nonessential jobs are shut down for 3 months; it would be helpful to say that you need to have nothing paid after month 3, the first 4 months paid after month 6, the first 8 after month 9, and everything paid by month 12.

Where are people expected to get the money to pay for a years worth of rent on just nine months worth of wages?
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Corrik7 posted...

I think you have the flu deaths confused.

I used the Google. It said estimated 35.5mil cases and like 34k deaths in the 2018-2019 flu season.

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Obellisk posted...

I used the Google. It said estimated 35.5mil cases and like 34k deaths in the 2018-2019 flu season.

In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. Thats fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDCs 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.

That's just America I believe btw.

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Obellisk posted...

We are like 10,000 deaths away from the estimated flu deaths in the 2018 flu season.

500,000 people tested positive so far for corona

Estimated 35.5 million people had the flu in that season.

Are people still just calling this a bad flu?

Those numbers are just for the US, from how they sound. Very little chance that could be a worldwide figure being that low. Also we will never know the actual mortality rate for this virus because of poor and inadequate testing plus the amount of people who probably just aren't getting tested. Anyone with mild symptoms are probably not going to get tested out of fear at this point, not of if they possibly have it but of contracting it by going into a highly condensed area where other people could have it. This is probably especially so for places like Italy, which is probably why their numbers are so out of line with most everyone else. Not to mention the death rate their is probably being skewed by the inundation of their heath care system.
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The flu numbers have always been a flawed argument because there is not a single strain of flu each flu season.

in the latest instance of please don't trust China, Spain learning the lesson the hard way.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-spain-says-rapid-tests-sent-from-china-missing-cases-2020-3

Studies on the tests done in Spain found that they had only 30% sensitivity, meaning they correctly identify people with the virus only 30% of the time, sources told the Spanish newspaper El Pas.

Those sources told the newspaper that the tests should have a sensitivity of more than 80%. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says rapid tests for influenza are required to have 80% sensitivity.

now you have China's defense here:

The tests were made by a Chinese biotechnology company called Bioeasy, El Pas reported. Other countries, including Georgia, have bought the company's tests.

The Chinese Embassy in Spain said on Twitter on Thursday that the medical supplies China was donating to other countries did not include Bioeasy products.

It said that the Chinese Ministry of Commerce gave Spain a list of manufacturers and that Bioeasy was not among them, adding that it had not been given a license from China's National Medical Products Administration to sell its products.

but ultimately this is still the problem:

On Monday, Spain said it received 640,000 rapid testing kits from China and South Korea; it is unclear how many were manufactured by Bioeasy.

Medical professionals in the Czech Republic have also said that rapid tests from China were not working properly, but it was not clear whether these tests were also made by Bioeasy.

they got lucky in that they managed to get a specific shipment and tested its accuracy.
problem is they don't know how much of all of their shipment is bullshit. same for other countries too. you don't know if your rapid test is 70% false.


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