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jpenny2
09/01/19 9:24:09 AM
#152:


Nazanir posted...
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I imagine his odd use of words is partly because of how much he's isolated himself. The only person he talks to on a regular basis is Kat, and it's unclear how much they actually talk. For the most part, he's talking at (not to) an audience of strangers who aren't in any position to talk back. Every day he says basically the same things. In many cases, he repeats the exact same words and phrases again and again, apparently possessing a very small vocabulary. He isn't participating in normal conversation, so he's only experiencing the manner in which he uses words. Plus, he doesn't respond well to criticism, so he never improves. Case in point, I know I heard someone correct him on his use of "penultimate" at some point in the past, yet he still uses it incorrectly.

The whole thing is fascinating, and I wonder if any other streamers have had their language devolve in this way.

I think that other streamers have an actual active social life outside of streaming. Phil goes out of his way to avoid interaction, and because no one can give him feedback/correct him (and if you dare do that in chat, prepare to be scolded) his way of speaking changes.

If you create your own bubble and no one can challenge you, you literally start living in your world.

I suppose another aspect to this is that he has no reason to change. As much as we criticize almost everything he does, he's still pulling down 100 grand a year working a very easy (and, in theory, fun) job that he's not even good at. In many ways, his life can be considered very successful, and the fact that he's been able to keep going when all signs pointed to him failing makes it seem as if he'll be able to continue for a long time. He must look at his life and think he's doing things right and has no reason to want to change. He might be one of the luckiest people in the history of humankind.
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MasterVG782
09/01/19 9:57:19 AM
#153:


Streaming is easy for Phil, as he doesn't really interact with his viewers and does nothing to actually improve his stream in any way. The majority of other streamers will tell you that streaming can be quite difficult, especially smaller to mid-tier ones, who are constantly trying to improve the quality of their stream and get more viewers. Despite Phil's constant complaints, he doesn't do this at all, instead living in his own bubble. I would imagine that a large portion of his viewers are there to see how much of a train wreck his streams are, as they have seen countless videos about him. Outside of Low Tier God, I'm not sure there's another streamer/content creator out there that has had so many videos made about him/her.
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Chev427BB
09/01/19 10:25:11 AM
#154:


If you offer him suggestions on how to improve his stream and he sees it you're immediately labeled a detractor and ridiculed and/or you get the old lean-in ban just for daring to help someone who appears to be (keywords there) struggling.

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jpenny2
09/01/19 10:51:57 AM
#155:


Based on some of his past requests on Twitter for suggestions to improve his stream, what he wants to hear is: "You're doing a great job, Phil! Keep doing more of the same."
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Nazanir
09/01/19 12:39:14 PM
#156:


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Based on some of his past requests on Twitter for suggestions to improve his stream, what he wants to hear is: "You're doing a great job, Phil! Keep doing more of the same."

Supporting this.

A while ago, don't remember when, he asked on Twitter for "feedback". He got well over a hundred responses. And sure, some of them were trolls and got rightfully ignored. But a lot of people gave valid and legit criticism. Like how they didn't want to hear about his monetary woes all the time, that he shouldn't share every minute detail of his life online, that people were fed up with 1-2 hour pre-streams.

Phil ignore EVERYTHING. He only responded to one person, that person was complimenting Phil and said that he should keep doing what he is doing.

Phil isn't looking to improve, he doesn't want to improve. He wants people to tell him he is doing is the right thing. Remember when everyone got released from Curse? Everyone got an email saying that they were let go, you know, the standard bullcrap. Phil however spun this of course entirely in his advantage: They loved him, were huge fans, he did nothing wrong, etc.

And that is what Phil is always looking for. Phil loves saying that people take "a nugget of truth" (bitch, its kernel of truth), but ironically he does the same. He looks for some small detail, and then expands that to disproportionate size. But important is, that he is looking for an out that absolves him from any and all guilt/responsibility.

For an "mature adult", he goes out of his way to dodge the responsibilities that come with being one.
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jpenny2
09/01/19 1:04:51 PM
#157:


His refusal to accept criticism is a major reason he won't ever improve, second only to his general laziness. I know I just finished saying that his life could be considered successful by many standards, but think about how much better he could be doing if he accepted criticism and tried to improve and grow his content into something more people actually wanted to see. Yes, it would have involved a lot of hard work, and he definitely would have needed to tone down the uglier elements of his personality, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he could've been working with sponsors and making upwards of 500 grand a year. I mean, if he can make 100 thousand a year putting out lazy uncut content while shitting on everyone around him, what could be do if he actually tried?
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LightningAce11
09/02/19 2:44:01 AM
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Apparently he let slip that one of the troll donaters is the whale that drops tons of subs and tips for him.

The guy "mocks" phil under different names and phil asks for more tips to beat the troll donation.
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Nazanir
09/02/19 4:03:36 AM
#161:


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Apparently he let slip that one of the troll donaters is the whale that drops tons of subs and tips for him.

The guy "mocks" phil under different names and phil asks for more tips to beat the troll donation.

So, basically, Phil accepts being abused just so long as you donate to him. Damn, imagine him telling his kids that's how he makes his money.

Nah, it seems more like he is in on it.

Let someone make mocking donations, and then true to provoke your viewers to beat the "troll". Given that Phil probably knew about PlanetJeff's 1k donation on the cat reveal stream, I certainly wouldn't put it past him.

So no, this is not a case of "insult Phil as much as you want, as long as you give money" because he had no fucking problem throwing Tut under the bus even though he gave upward of 17.000 dollars.

So yeah, I certainly can see Phil trying to milk his true fans for all they are worth with a clever ruse trying to outdo a troll.
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jpenny2
09/02/19 9:36:00 AM
#162:


When I hear about Phil apparently doing something underhanded like that, my first thought is usually something like "No, he must have just misspoke." Then I remember that he lied about owning a cat for close to a year, and somehow managed to turn his admission of that lie into a $2000 payday (during a marathon he was already being paid to do from sub money, no less), so it's likely true.
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Bad_Mojo
09/02/19 3:18:47 PM
#163:


Did any of you hear about Jasper keeping him awake all night? He just goes on and on about it, explaining [incorrectly] to people why Jasper is doing the things he does

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LightningAce11
09/02/19 4:58:35 PM
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Spent the prestream whining about how jasper woke him up at 5am. There's a man on the inside!
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jpenny2
09/02/19 5:10:13 PM
#165:


The cat is one more excuse for him to show up late to streams and spend the whole time yawning and in a bad mood. I know it's mostly baseless speculation, but it seems like there's more to the story of his sleepless nights (ie: marital problems and excess drinking). It was a rebound relationship that turned into marriage after a short period of time, there are financial problems, and she is clearly uncomfortable with the level of trolling that surrounds him. I think it's fair to say that they might be struggling as a couple.
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Jagermeister513
09/02/19 6:57:40 PM
#167:


So, they've had the cat for months now and it's just now starting to do this shit? Why does he describe the things his cat does like he's a 5 year old that just got their first pet?
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jpenny2
09/03/19 10:18:02 AM
#168:


Someone on KF pointed out something interesting. Though Phil has been in the worst financial crisis of his life for the past several months, when is the last time he sat down and made a dedicated begging video? You know the ones where he wears the black shirt and starts off by sighing and explaining how he doesn't want to have to make the video but things are bad right now.
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Nazanir
09/03/19 2:53:43 PM
#169:


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So, they've had the cat for months now and it's just now starting to do this shit? Why does he describe the things his cat does like he's a 5 year old that just got their first pet?

It's hilarious as fuck to hear Phil talk about cats like he is some kind of authority, but that goes about anything really.

Also, as much Phil loves to say he "works his ass off", something got my attention. If you look at what he uploads, it's always 2 hour segments, though he wants you believe he works over 8 hours a day. He uploads about 4 hours of actual gameplay per day at best. Even looking at the actual gameplay, it's less than that. Lots of interruptions, fishing for tips/cheers, talking out of his ass, over explaining stuff (wrongly) or bring mad at chat.

In his latest Minecraft stream he spend over 50% standing still/barely doing anything.

Why people praise him for his gameplay is beyond me.
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Nazanir
09/05/19 3:04:39 AM
#170:


Borrowed an observation made on the farms, and it kind of makes sense.

Someone in chat asked if Phil would be rich if he randomly won like a million dollars. Phil responded saying by "no, it depends". "If you still spend a million and one dollars, no, you are not rich."

In a weird way, this makes sense. See, Phil is always strapped for money, always in the worst financial position, etc. While we always point out how much money he makes. So if you take what he said, and apply it to him: even if Phil does make 10.000 dollars a month, as long as he spends 10.001 he will be poor.

And I started noticing the nailbiting thing when a black character is on screen too now. The fuck is up with that?
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Jagermeister513
09/05/19 3:12:24 AM
#171:


Nazanir posted...
And I started noticing the nailbiting thing when a black character on screen too now. The fuck is up with that?

That shit is fucking hilarious. It just keeps happening.

Also, Phil is a liar and a spoiled brat. Every week is some new catastrophe where he needs that money, he really does.
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LightningAce11
09/05/19 3:14:52 AM
#172:


Jagermeister513 posted...
Nazanir posted...
And I started noticing the nailbiting thing when a black character on screen too now. The fuck is up with that?

That shit is fucking hilarious. It just keeps happening.

Ack ack ack dood, dsp isn't racist! He is just fearful of the dangerous elements!
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Jagermeister513
09/05/19 3:17:07 AM
#173:


LightningAce11 posted...
Jagermeister513 posted...
Nazanir posted...
And I started noticing the nailbiting thing when a black character on screen too now. The fuck is up with that?

That shit is fucking hilarious. It just keeps happening.

Ack ack ack dood, dsp isn't racist! He is just fearful of the dangerous elements!

It's a detractor meme dood. It reminds him of living in poverty in Renton where the black kids would steal his bike. His friend was shot dead in the street for reasons.

Even though all those Street Fighter pictures and videos shows him as a rich kid with money to blow at gaming tournaments.
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LightningAce11
09/05/19 3:32:43 AM
#174:


I signed up for the king of hate website, and within minutes this dude called moriahmorah or something followed me and sent me a message.
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Jagermeister513
09/05/19 3:35:05 AM
#175:


LightningAce11 posted...
I signed up for the king of hate website, and within minutes this dude called moriahmorah or something followed me and sent me a message.

Oh no. What did it say?
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LightningAce11
09/05/19 6:40:46 PM
#176:


Apparently Kat's birthday is coming up, but that's unrelated to the big stream that he's doing to pay his bills.
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jpenny2
09/05/19 7:02:52 PM
#177:


I know I've been saying it for a long time now, but he's broke and overdrafted every single month, yet his only answer continues to be to ask his fans for more money. He does nothing new to draw in new viewers or encourage established viewers to donate more. He has not shown that he's cut his expenses in any way. His content in lazier than it's ever been, which, combined with the lengthy prestreams and his abrasive personality, makes his content extremely unappealing to newcomers. This, he claims, is the worst financial crisis he's ever been in, and all he has done to help himself is to continue to beg for tips.
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Bad_Mojo
09/05/19 7:24:39 PM
#178:


It's because he's lying. He's not broke, I'm sure he's fine. But telling people you're broke gets people to give you more money. The type of person Phil is seems to me to be someone that would only count 70% of his income as his living wages since you're supposed to put 30% of your earnings into savings/retirement

I bet the only time hew as really broke was that first tax thing that hit him, after that he's been fine and lying about shit to make more money

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jpenny2
09/05/19 7:37:32 PM
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I see his financial situation as being one of two scenarios.

1.) He is technically broke, but only because he can't/won't control his spending. He brings in enough to live comfortably if he made a few small sacrifices and adjustments, but he refuses to do so, or maybe is so deluded that he doesn't know how to. If almost anyone else was in his situation, they could make things work.

2.) He is pretty much fine financially and only cries broke because he thinks people will stop giving him money otherwise. This could be similar to the lies about getting married or having the cat--he's only doing it to protect himself and his family. I don't think this scenario is likely, mainly because if it was, Phil would be a much scummier person than anyone thought.
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Nazanir
09/06/19 5:07:52 AM
#180:


jpenny2 posted...
I see his financial situation as being one of two scenarios.

1.) He is technically broke, but only because he can't/won't control his spending. He brings in enough to live comfortably if he made a few small sacrifices and adjustments, but he refuses to do so, or maybe is so deluded that he doesn't know how to. If almost anyone else was in his situation, they could make things work.

2.) He is pretty much fine financially and only cries broke because he thinks people will stop giving him money otherwise. This could be similar to the lies about getting married or having the cat--he's only doing it to protect himself and his family. I don't think this scenario is likely, mainly because if it was, Phil would be a much scummier person than anyone thought.

In the case of 1, it's as I said, as long as he spends one dollar more than he makes, he considers himself poor.

In case of 2, why change? If it works, and you clear 6 figures a year with it, why do anything different? As long as people keep giving you money...
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jpenny2
09/06/19 9:59:53 AM
#181:


I remember someone once describing Phil's situation as follows:

A man drives his car to the gas station to get gas. He goes in and spends all of his money on things he doesn't need: drinks, junk food, lottery tickets, etc. Then he goes outside and starts asking strangers for gas money because he's broke and can't afford to get home. Technically he's telling the truth. He is broke and he does need money to pay for gas, but he's only in that situation because of his own poor spending.
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Nazanir
09/06/19 10:59:29 AM
#182:


jpenny2 posted...
I remember someone once describing Phil's situation as follows:

A man drives his car to the gas station to get gas. He goes in and spends all of his money on things he doesn't need: drinks, junk food, lottery tickets, etc. Then he goes outside and starts asking strangers for gas money because he's broke and can't afford to get home. Technically he's telling the truth. He is broke and he does need money to pay for gas, but he's only in that situation because of his own poor spending.

That is a really great description, I feel like that fits Phil to a T.

Juicy detail, last night he had a tips goal of 100. There was no reward for reaching the tip goal. It wasn't met, got stuck around 84 I believe, and he reset it for the next stream. If you are wondering, yes he is a greedy fuck.

Also, during the Blackout stream, he got killed and stopped playing for nearly 15 minutes so he got whine a bitch about being killed. 15 minutes of hearing him go off the rails because someone was better than him. This is the kind of quality content he puts out there for his fans.

The throat clearing has gotten excessively worse the last week or 2, he makes no effort to even slightly move away from the mic, so as to not inconvenience his audience, in the same manner he snorts, burps and makes other disgusting noises (oh, and the bottle crunch of course). He has 0 respect for the people that basically pay EVERYTHING. Basically his house belongs to his fans (and everything in it), since they all pay for it.

To drive that point home, someone asked him why he couldn't mute his mic when snorting for example. It went about as well as you'd expect, with the person being scolded, called an idiot and basically chewed out.

Phil doesn't give a single fuck about anyone, they are just walking ATMs to him. This is also why anyone that outlives their usefulness gets thrown under the bus. If you aren't giving Phil money, you are nothing. He thinks so little of other people. I guess that is why he is not renting out the CT condo, even though that could be a form of passive income for him. He said once that he fears that criminals or other scum would possibly inhabit his house.

It's really a strange mix of a person. He has no relationship, even his marriage to Kat is questionable. Every relationship/friendship he ever had is destroyed by his hands, he fears going outside, has a superiority complex, thinks little of others, has a huge persecution complex, is narcissistic as fuck, incapable of empathy or sympathy and anyone who tries to empathize with him will get scolded because Phil sees it as someone stealing his spotlight.

I swear, if I was a psychologist, I'd be having a field day with this shit.
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LightningAce11
09/06/19 11:10:49 PM
#183:


He dropped all pretense and said "This is not a hint hint, I need your money."
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Chev427BB
09/06/19 11:15:21 PM
#184:


Well at least he's being honest about his greed now. That's something, I guess...?

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Nazanir
09/07/19 9:48:26 AM
#185:


Last night's stream has produced a wonderful little gem.

Someone who tipped Phil: "Don't you think it's silly getting upset over online trolls?"

Phil: "Yeah, you are right."

Also Phil: "Stop victim blaming/shaming me."
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jpenny2
09/07/19 9:56:52 AM
#186:


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Well at least he's being honest about his greed now. That's something, I guess...?

I've said it before: I'd respect him more if he dropped this "welcome, friends/I love gaming!" schtick and just admitted that all he wants is his viewers' money. That way there is at least no pretense, and his fans can decide if they want to support the real Phil... and I think most of his actual fans would still support him.
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Nazanir
09/07/19 12:42:43 PM
#187:


jpenny2 posted...
Chev427BB posted...
Well at least he's being honest about his greed now. That's something, I guess...?

I've said it before: I'd respect him more if he dropped this "welcome, friends/I love gaming!" schtick and just admitted that all he wants is his viewers' money. That way there is at least no pretense, and his fans can decide if they want to support the real Phil... and I think most of his actual fans would still support him.

Which is fair.

Of course every streamer wants to make money, but they realize they have do something in return. Generally I love to compare Phil to Maximiliandood. They are complete polar opposites.

Maximilian:

-Even the smallest of donations, Max is thankful for, you'll never EVER see him scolding anyone for asking a question.
-Max tries his hardest to try and make people feel welcome, not only in his stream, but also into the FGC.
-Max owns what he does. He makes great efforts to explain his thought process, tries to improve and explain why he fucked up.
-He tried to refund several large donations, feeling he wasn't worthy.
-Generally a humble, friendly guy. You can tell he enjoys what he does.
-Rarely gets trolled, and if he does he can laugh it off.
-Always treats the people he plays against with respect, you'll never see him insult anyone, and will try to help them improve too.

Phil:

-Isn't thankful for the money he gets. He'll acknowledge donations at best.
-Isn't welcoming of people, especially new people. He makes no effert here.
-Is never at fault. Ever. It's either the game, the controller, his internet connection, or even the fucking alignment of the planets.
-Threw people under the bus, even though the made sizable donations. And he will fucking chew you out if you dare to cancel a donation or something else. Doesn't matter if you can't afford it, you get scolded.
-Has no people skills, doesn't know how to carry a conversation, has no joy in what he does.
-Due to his toxic nature, chat is a toxic cesspool. This causes trolling and the like.
-Has no respect for the people he plays against, they are braindead morons, have no idea how to play the game, and will shit over his opponent win or lose.
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jpenny2
09/07/19 2:49:20 PM
#188:


Nazanir posted...
Of course every streamer wants to make money, but they realize they have do something in return.

Phil is convinced that he owes his viewers nothing, and he delivers on that.
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Nazanir
09/08/19 9:12:51 AM
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Phil tweeted on the birthday of his wife that they didn't have money to do anything, and that festivities included grocery shopping and going to Sonic.

So either it was a miserable day, or Phil is lying.

I am going to assume the latter, because Phil lies as much as he breathes. Ironically, the lies he uses to cover up what he actually does make him look even worse.

If he said that they went out to dinner, then at least he'd seem like a decent husband taking his wife out to dinner. Sure, it would clash with the constant lie that he doesn't have money to do shit, but this would make him look better than saying that the best thing they did on her birthday was do groceries.

There is no doubt in my doubt in my mind they went on a spending spree, because we all know this happens every time Phil gets paid, there is a reason why he hasn't done a "house tour" in ages.

People seem to constantly forget that Phil lies about everything. He had the cat for over 9 months, lied every time he brought it up (we want a cat, but can't afford it), or someone else brought it up (Phil, how do you feel about having a pet?), lied about selling his house (he said that after his trip to his parents they would make final preparations to sell the house), lied about foreclosing the CT Condo, lied about getting married.

And these aren't small lies either. It's not like you lied about being sick so you could stay home to play a game. These are lies about significant changes in your life, and what for?

Actually, scratch that. It started with one "simple" lie: not having enough money. Everything snowballed from there.
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jpenny2
09/08/19 9:41:41 AM
#191:


Nazanir posted...
So either it was a miserable day, or Phil is lying.

Could've been both. Even if Phil was spending big and trying to show her a good time, odds are it was a miserable day.

"Happy birthday, Kat. May every--wait, hold on. Some fucking moron just responded to my tweet with a detractor meme. You go ahead and order the wine while I explain to this guy why he's a stupid fucking kid and then block him."
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Nazanir
09/08/19 3:36:48 PM
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jpenny2 posted...
Nazanir posted...
So either it was a miserable day, or Phil is lying.

Could've been both. Even if Phil was spending big and trying to show her a good time, odds are it was a miserable day.

"Happy birthday, Kat. May every--wait, hold on. Some fucking moron just responded to my tweet with a detractor meme. You go ahead and order the wine while I explain to this guy why he's a stupid fucking kid and then block him."

Oh to be sure, I doubt Kat is happy in the current relationship. Having said that, she knew fully well what she was marrying in to, so I have zero sympathy for her. But I get the feeling that she is the one making all the calls.

I wonder what would happen if she ever does put her foot down and plays the "Either streaming goes, or I go" card.

Also, Phil got a 200 dollars in tips, but somehow he doesn't have money to play Borderlands 3. He is fishing hard for someone to donate the game to him, but I don't think he will want to play it. He played BL1, and did it fucking awfully. He played BL2 and cooped it with John Rambo.

He says he doesn't want to do coop this time around, because it will detract from him interacting with the stream chat. I honestly cannot figure out this man's thought process anymore.
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LightningAce11
09/08/19 4:51:32 PM
#193:


It's just so easy to bait him into ranting about something. You don't need to give him money.
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jpenny2
09/08/19 5:14:30 PM
#194:


Nazanir posted...
I wonder what would happen if she ever does put her foot down and plays the "Either streaming goes, or I go" card.

She'd never do that, because she knows the ongoing scam is the only way they stay afloat. I agree that she's complicit in everything he does and therefore deserves no sympathy. The way I see it, both of them are fully aware that their relationship is mostly a fraud. She's in it for the money; he's in it to look like a mature adult. They seem like they deserve each other, and all signs point to both of them being deeply unhappy.
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Vyrulisse
09/08/19 10:24:31 PM
#196:


Apparently he has to construct a penis in Minecraft... what.

Phil being a mature adult is trying too hard to pretend like he's above it though.
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Jagermeister513
09/08/19 10:28:10 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Apparently he has to construct a penis in Minecraft... what.

Phil being a mature adult is trying too hard to pretend like he's above it though.

Phil's totally straight though. All those "jokes" of guys blowing each other, shoving things in guy's asses, making jokes when two guys are onscreen together, being openly horrified when two characters might be gay, those are all taken out of context.
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jpenny2
09/08/19 10:46:35 PM
#198:


I've never understood his need to be thought of as mature. He's a guy who plays video games for a living, often makes dick jokes, and leans into the mic to burp--no one is going to buy that he's mature. Plus, no one expects it anyway, so it's another problem he created for himself. I don't think the average Twitch viewer tunes into a stream hoping the streamer acts like he's 45 years old with two kids and a mortgage. Even the good streamers are kind of immature, albeit in an entertaining way.
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Jagermeister513
09/09/19 3:37:52 AM
#199:


I really enjoyed that one comment tonight about how Kat has her own bills to pay and her own private friends he has no business of knowing.

So much for that whole soulmaid helping out with his bills when they first started dating. I don't believe for a second he's married. It's a sham.
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Nintendo_Porn
09/09/19 7:12:27 AM
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He's extremely insecure - how many adults have to tell you they are adults?

He's so fucking stupid he doesn't realize being an adult just means being able to do whatever the fuck you want without regret. Caring about judgement is for high school.

Your mommy can send you out to pay bills if she can trust you with her shit.
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