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| Topic | What's the modern equivalent of shows like Fresh Prince, Martin, etc? |
| legendary_zell 09/12/17 12:52:25 AM #14 | CruelBuffalo posted... cjsdowg posted...legendary_zell posted...Insecure and Atlanta. But they're pretty different of course, a lot more creator driven, no laugh track, a lot more modern etc. Blackish is probably the closest. Well Lawrence and Molly are pretty Yuppie. The Girls comparison is pretty fair from what I know about that show. --- |
| Topic | What's the modern equivalent of shows like Fresh Prince, Martin, etc? |
| legendary_zell 09/11/17 11:22:20 PM #10 | Insecure and Atlanta. But they're pretty different of course, a lot more creator driven, no laugh track, a lot more modern etc. Blackish is probably the closest. --- |
| Topic | Have white people ever been repressed or enslaved or anything of that sort? |
| legendary_zell 09/11/17 11:15:28 PM #87 | Newhopes posted... Yes by the biggest slavers as all time the muslims with a estimated 3-4 million slavs alone been taken in slave raids from the area that is now modern Russia which lead to a young Russia crushing the crimean tatars to stop it. People always say this like it's some revelation or it's kryptonite to "left wingers". It is brought up in literally every topic about slavery. Can you point to even one person on the left saying whites were the only source of slavery or that other races haven't enslaved people? --- |
| Topic | White people don't get to decide what's racist or offensive to POC |
| legendary_zell 09/10/17 9:16:25 PM #98 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted...It's amazing that overt racism like this, telling people what aspect of society whites can participate in (collectively and organically deciding on how words are used) yet people have the gall to pretend that racism against minorities is what's tolerated on gamefaqs? This post is unabashed hysteria and victim rhetoric. No leftwinger or POC on this board could post this and be taken seriously again. --- |
| Topic | White people don't get to decide what's racist or offensive to POC |
| legendary_zell 09/10/17 9:14:17 PM #97 | darkjedilink posted... legendary_zell posted...If a person of color reacted to common sense statement like the OP with hysteria and conspiracy theories like "cultural marxism" and used full victim like "I'm being silenced" and openly claimed the OP was racist, all of CE would throw a fit and call that person a joke poster, a SJW, etc. But multiple presumably white people are doing just that here and assigning meanings that don't exist. I'll call it out whenever I see it, just as I did in the very post you're quoting. You seem to have an extreme problem with understanding the meanings behind what people say and do. You assume the best of yourself and the worst of "the left" and minorities. That Betsy Devos comment is a great example. Unless you can unironically and accurately post the real reasons that people are opposed to her proposed moves, I'll be pretty sure you are incapable of accurately conceptualizing the arguments of people that disagree with you. --- |
| Topic | White people don't get to decide what's racist or offensive to POC |
| legendary_zell 09/10/17 9:10:10 PM #91 | darkjedilink posted... gamepimp12 posted...But you can't say "you shouldn't be offended because that shouldn't offend" Have you thought maybe they have a reason on a personal level why it's offensive to them. Even if it's a small group, no one should be presuming to tell them that their offense doesn't exist or that it shouldn't exist. That's separate from explaining your intentions and saying that you are not in fact racist or explaining why the idea of digital blackface is misguided. --- |
| Topic | White people don't get to decide what's racist or offensive to POC |
| legendary_zell 09/10/17 8:59:50 PM #86 | If a person of color reacted to common sense statement like the OP with hysteria and conspiracy theories like "cultural marxism" and used full victim like "I'm being silenced" and openly claimed the OP was racist, all of CE would throw a fit and call that person a joke poster, a SJW, etc. But multiple presumably white people are doing just that here and assigning meanings that don't exist. All this means is that a person causing offense or a person outside of a marginalized group cannot dictate what is offensive to someone within that group. They're lacking the historical context and personal experience to make that assessment and even doing so is just an asshole's way of avoiding responsibility for the crappy things they say. Offense policing is a thing that no one should do, not just white people, but it tends to happen the most when white people are talking to non-whites about something crappy they said to the POC, and the POC calls them out and says "that's not even offensive, stop crying". You don't get to decide that. To make it clear, the same principle applies if a woman argued to a man that just lost a pet that saying "man up" to them isn't offensive and they should lighten up. Of if a black guy called a white person white trash, the black guy also doesn't get to decide that they intended it as a joke and so it wasn't offensive or white trash itself isn't an offensive term. Get it now? There's no hypocrisy here and it speaks badly of you if you're jumping to see it. --- |
| Topic | Why are anal and eating ass so popular among millennials? |
| legendary_zell 09/04/17 5:00:35 PM #59 | BigSLM1993 posted... It's funny how things evolve. My half brother's grandfather thinks that oral sex is what homosexuals do. That you shouldn't need a mouth to do what a vagina is supposed to do. --- |
| Topic | What's the liberal endgame on illegal immigration? |
| legendary_zell 09/04/17 2:33:36 PM #104 | The Admiral posted... legendary_zell posted...Y'all actually don't want more immigrants because of votes and often because of racism Just look at the people in this topic. It's the usual suspects, including Capn, you, etc. You were the first person to bring race up in this topic. Your statements about race have lost you the benefit of the doubt loooong ago. You've been going further and further into the white victimhood rhetoric lately, you're only a few steps away from Capn and Southcoast at this point. There's nothing casual about my assumption. You stated yourself it's about race in your mind. Research supports what I've said. https://www.prri.org/research/white-working-class-attitudes-economy-trade-immigration-election-donald-trump/ I'm not saying that everyone who opposes illegal immigration is racist. I'm saying a lot of the sure are and a lot of the opposition is driven by race. There's ample evidence for one side, where is the evidence for yours? --- |
| Topic | What's the liberal endgame on illegal immigration? |
| legendary_zell 09/04/17 2:12:18 PM #98 | How the hell can we have political debates if all of you right wingers legitimately believe that democrats have secret plans to destroy the power of whites and illegitimately gain votes? There's nothing that could be done to disprove this conspiracy theory. Y'all actually don't want more immigrants because of votes and often because of racism, so you assume we oppose things like ending DACA and building a wall for the same reasons. You don't even attempt to give us any benefit of the doubt or think of any good faith arguments we could be making, you jump straight to a strawman. You have to eliminate the possibility that we're actually empathetic people, cosmopolitans, etc so you don't feel bad about your positions. Instead, it must be about virtue signaling, anti-white racism, and politically enslaving and exploiting ethnic groups. It must be pretty hard going through life thinking people that think differently from you are that evil. --- |
| Topic | ICE abusing detainees to get them to drop their lawsuit. |
| legendary_zell 09/02/17 3:10:12 PM #7 | ICE violates people's human rights on a daily basis. They do this to men, women, and innocent children. Go to a detention center sometime and it'll become obvious. I have many friends who represent or interview detainees and I've interviewed a few. Their stories make me rage out. --- |
| Topic | Woman eats out of dumpsters so she can afford long-term care for her husband |
| legendary_zell 08/29/17 8:51:35 PM #46 | FLUFFYGERM posted... legendary_zell posted...Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue. The fact that she has to spend the vast majority of her income on healthcare is due to lack of planning? We don't need to get into slippery slope arguments when the vast majority of the world thinks that healthcare should be free. And yes, those things should be provided to all those who are truly needy. Humans should have what they need to be happy and not on the verge of death or exposure. --- |
| Topic | Woman eats out of dumpsters so she can afford long-term care for her husband |
| legendary_zell 08/29/17 7:53:31 PM #43 | Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue. --- |
| Topic | Joel Osteen refuses to open doors to his giant church to help Harvey victims |
| legendary_zell 08/28/17 9:33:34 PM #78 | SageHarpuia posted... This alone will keep him out of the Kingdom if there is one. I don't think you could have any type of meaningful belief and then do something like this when you actually have the resources to do so much more. --- |
| Topic | Joel Osteen refuses to open doors to his giant church to help Harvey victims |
| legendary_zell 08/28/17 9:31:08 PM #76 | ThePieReborn posted... legendary_zell posted...I don't know how anyone would think this is something Jesus would be okay with. It's as simple as this, if Jesus was operating a church with these resources, would he open his doors or turn people away? Unless the streets are literally impassible, I can't imagine the legitimate, godly purpose of having the type of facilities he has if you're not going to use them to help innocent needy people during an emergency. You have all that space and call your place a house of God and yourself a man of god, yet you do nothing? You're right, this is clear as crystal. He should be ashamed. And if in his heart he's a true believer and not just a religious snake-oil salesman, he should be terrified at the effect this'll have on his holy points. When a fast talking furniture salesman is outdoing a pastor on Christian charity, there's a problem. --- |
| Topic | Joel Osteen refuses to open doors to his giant church to help Harvey victims |
| legendary_zell 08/28/17 9:25:02 PM #72 | I don't know how anyone would think this is something Jesus would be okay with. It's as simple as this, if Jesus was operating a church with these resources, would he open his doors or turn people away? Unless the streets are literally impassible, I can't imagine the legitimate, godly purpose of having the type of facilities he has if you're not going to use them to help innocent needy people during an emergency. You have all that space and call your place a house of God and yourself a man of god, yet you do nothing? This alone will keep him out of the Kingdom if there is one. --- |
| Topic | Dude beat the shit out of a pregnant woman but his music good |
| legendary_zell 08/27/17 5:13:56 PM #6 | Amenadeel posted... Oooh ooh I know this one. I think this is actually XXXTentacion. --- |
| Topic | Video of alt-righter shooting at black man in Charlottesville, cops did nothing |
| legendary_zell 08/27/17 5:13:06 PM #66 | Vertania posted... legendary_zell posted...If a black gang member in Chicago shot at a police officer but purposefully shot at the ground... That difference is irrelevant to the point that there would be no acceptance of an argument that "he shot at the ground". Even if it was random civilian vs random civilian, that argument wouldn't fly. There's no way people would accept minimizing dangerousness or culpability by claiming that a card carrying member of the Black Panther party or even BLM was shooting to protect someone or was purposefully missed. But the conservatives of CE are willing to make these arguments in favor of a literal imperial wizard in the actual KKK. Or redirect to the actions of the person shot at by the non-KKK official, ignoring the innocent bystanders that were also shot at. --- |
| Topic | Video of alt-righter shooting at black man in Charlottesville, cops did nothing |
| legendary_zell 08/27/17 1:32:25 PM #30 | If a black gang member in Chicago shot at a police officer but purposefully shot at the ground, none of the usual suspects would be rushing into to mention that. Anyone who mentioned that in any way that could even be interpreted as a defense of the gang member would be accused of being a cop hater and gang apologist. We'd get the lectures on gun safety that laugh at the concept of "aiming for the ground" as being less than deadly and insult liberal's knowledge of guns and physics. They would surely be calling for attempted murder charges and would take this as proof the guy has a heart full of pure hatred and police didn't do anything because of the Baltimore effect or some BS. Instead, we're getting told we're exaggerating when we say a blatant white supremacist shouted racial slurs and then shot at/used deadly force against a black man in broad daylight and faced no immediate consequences from nearby officers. --- |
| Topic | Police chief outed as a nazi |
| legendary_zell 08/27/17 1:23:13 AM #12 | BillWardsPants posted... Aristoph posted...BillWardsPants posted...Uh oh! Doubleplusbadthink! Burn the witch! Just today, I've seen you defend stormfront posters and now and apparent Nazi. Why should anyone take you seriously on these issues? --- |
| Topic | University of Texas at Austin removed 4 confederate statues overnight |
| legendary_zell 08/21/17 7:22:27 PM #51 | Jabodie posted... Isn't the erection of a statue itself motivation just by "feelings"? Because history cannot exist in the absence of a statue and when you take down a statue, you not only erase any evidence of that event happening or any way to find out about it, you go back in time and rip it out of history, destroying the space time continuum. That's what people must mean when they say moving a hastily made confederate statue put up in the 60s by white supremacists to a museum is "erasing history". It's the only way to justify the hysteria and cataclysmic predictions. --- |
| Topic | University of Texas at Austin removed 4 confederate statues overnight |
| legendary_zell 08/21/17 5:48:34 PM #44 | donkeyjack posted... Asherlee10 posted...donkeyjack posted...Asherlee10 posted...donkeyjack posted...Asherlee10 posted...Probably a good thing they went ahead and took them down to avoid further conflict. How is anyone associated with the Confederacy a winner???? They are the biggest losers in American history . --- |
| Topic | High school girls removed from college campus for wearing Trump MAGA hats |
| legendary_zell 08/20/17 10:10:00 PM #99 | ClunkerSlim posted... legendary_zell posted...This was a person intentionally trolling and going on private property for the purpose of causing a disturbance. If it comes out that she had no idea she'd be going to Howard, then I take back what I said. It only applies if she was purposefully trolling. --- |
| Topic | High school girls removed from college campus for wearing Trump MAGA hats |
| legendary_zell 08/20/17 10:08:43 PM #98 | Bloodychess posted... legendary_zell posted...This was a person intentionally trolling and going on private property for the purpose of causing a disturbance. Considering what Trump has been doing in the media lately concerning nazis and white supremacists, and his reputation among black liberals which are all 1000 percent well known, it's not surprising that wearing that will piss people off. You couldn't show up at CPAC wearing a Che Guevara shirt and not have it cause a disturbance. --- |
| Topic | High school girls removed from college campus for wearing Trump MAGA hats |
| legendary_zell 08/20/17 10:00:55 PM #92 | Why are conservatives freaking out about this? This was a person intentionally trolling and going on private property for the purpose of causing a disturbance. When they were no longer welcome, their privilege to be there was revoked. You don't have to defend them just because they were wearing MAGA hats. Howard University is literally the most famous historically black college. It's a black, liberal campus. You can't tell my she didn't know this. --- |
| Topic | Canada shows Charlottesville how to handle alt-right protestors |
| legendary_zell 08/20/17 2:45:44 AM #86 | The absolute MADMAN, he actually did it. He said "triggered"! Litrally a conservabot. To the ignore list this new account goes. --- |
| Topic | Canada shows Charlottesville how to handle alt-right protestors |
| legendary_zell 08/20/17 2:09:27 AM #84 | Dash_Harber posted... legendary_zell posted...Just put Mal on ignore and be done with it. Like Madfoot, no one here has ever had a good faith argument with him, he's never admitted to being wrong about anything, he's never changed his mind, he's not going to stop strawmanning. It's like talking to a particularly single-minded robot programmed to spout whataboutisms. Like I said, 99 percent of his posts are whataboutisms and gish gallops. Usually both, combined with animosity for "the left". There's no possibility of a real debate with him. But it's a 100 percent certainty that he'll try to spin this as "triggered leftists who lack the maturity and mental horsepower to debate with a non-SJW rationalthinker". Even if all of that were true, he'd still be Mal and it still would not be worth wasting the calories necessary to respond to him. --- |
| Topic | Canada shows Charlottesville how to handle alt-right protestors |
| legendary_zell 08/20/17 1:29:28 AM #82 | Just put Mal on ignore and be done with it. Like Madfoot, no one here has ever had a good faith argument with him, he's never admitted to being wrong about anything, he's never changed his mind, he's not going to stop strawmanning. It's like talking to a particularly single-minded robot programmed to spout whataboutisms. You'd legit be better of arguing with Admiral and the others. At least they are actual human beings when there is a solar eclipse. --- |
| Topic | what makes taxation not theft |
| legendary_zell 08/18/17 7:37:20 PM #61 | fenderbender321 posted... legendary_zell posted...Jabodie posted...I mean, if you're fine living without laws or currency, that's fine. How could this idea be falsified then? If you claim that the government has taken over literally every livable space on the planet earth, is there any way to disprove your theory? It conveniently can't be tested. If it can't be tested, it must be believed without testing, on faith, and I'm not of the libertarian faith. Yes, a group could go out on their own away from a government and do these things, but what do you do when the child of one of those zealous individualists doesn't have that same spirit and doesn't wanna contribute? Or if someone gets too powerful and takes over other people's lands and property? Very soon you start getting state like things like taxes and police. Society already went through all these stages and it already happened everywhere. It's not like people wanted government, it just happens when people want nice things. --- |
| Topic | Do kids these days still use 'bad' as a positive adjective? |
| legendary_zell 08/18/17 7:28:38 PM #5 | The song "Bad and Boujee" was recently number one in America. So yes, but not in the way you're using it. --- |
| Topic | what makes taxation not theft |
| legendary_zell 08/18/17 6:30:24 PM #41 | Jabodie posted... I mean, if you're fine living without laws or currency, that's fine. This. No one is stopping you from going and creating your own self sufficient home if you have the ability to do so. Some people are actually fine without the comforts of society. There's tribes all over the world that live without formal taxation or anything like the modern state. The thing is, that's the level of living you can have without the stability and investment provided by the state. You could try to build something with a group of like minded individuals, but there would need to be a pseudo state set up pretty quickly. You don't wanna deal with any of that though, you just wanna use all the benefits provided by the state while hollowly claiming you don't need them and could provide them for yourself. --- |
| Topic | Charles Barkley says black people don't think about Confederate statues |
| legendary_zell 08/18/17 3:06:06 PM #25 | lightwarrior78 posted... TheVipaGTS posted...lightwarrior78 posted...You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems. These things are by no means mutually exclusive. I'd bet there's a huge overlap between the Nazi haters and the people donating. I work at a legal aid organization and literally every single one of us is vocally anti Nazi. --- |
| Topic | Charles Barkley says black people don't think about Confederate statues |
| legendary_zell 08/18/17 2:21:51 PM #17 | AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Its just another example of white SJWs losing their shit over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about Just because it's not on our minds 24/7 doesn't mean it's something we're okay with. A black person in Compton is probably not worried about that, but if you asked, there's a 90 percent chance they're not okay with it and would prefer they weren't there at all. Not that you actually care about the opinions of minorities. Even with widespread agreement among black people that such monuments should be removed, you would still say "what about black on black crime " or just get over it". Don't use hypothetical minority opinions as a weapon or a shield unless those opinions actually affect your worldview. --- |
| Topic | lol Alt-Right trying to rebrand themselves as non-Nazi. Now known as 'New-Right' |
| legendary_zell 08/17/17 7:32:59 PM #17 | thompsontalker7 posted... Antifar posted...OrtegaTron posted...So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default? Y'all are some touchy MFers. No one is saying that, it's been explicitly denied and yet you desperately jump to that conclusion like it's a life raft. He was only criticizing the alt right, not conservatives, right wingers, white people etc generally. --- |
| Topic | Trump literally can't just say "Racism is bad" |
| legendary_zell 08/13/17 10:06:15 PM #120 | He repeats attacks and talking points all the time. Liberals have even been praising TED CRUZ for his strong reactions to white supremacist assholery. This "what could he say, you libs would never be satisfied " ignores the fact that there are multiple high ranking Republicans including the Zodiac Killer himself that responded correctly and have received nothing but praise. We want him to make it clear he's not on their side because that sure as hell is open to interpretation right now because of the gigantic, conspicuous gap between the vitriol he has for other groups/individuals vs David Duke and the Nazis who have noticed his sudden PC statements that put equal blame on non murderers rather than tearing apart Nazis who are hurting and even killing people in his name. --- |
| Topic | Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis |
| legendary_zell 08/13/17 12:04:53 AM #41 | Genericgamer667 posted... let's remove any doubt now I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, it indicates a lot. Also, how the hell is he NOT giving them comfort and support? They are in their own words stating that he is. He could clear up any potential misconceptions, but refuses to do so when all he has to do is take the easy step of saying Nazis are scum and I hate them and I will prosecute them all. --- |
| Topic | Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis |
| legendary_zell 08/12/17 11:14:16 PM #31 | Monday posted... legendary_zell posted...Monday posted...how do i into shitposting This is a serious topic. No one is trolling other than you. I'm asking a question that will be increasingly asked if these things continue to happen and Trump continues to have the same milquetoast response. If you don't want to engage, just leave. Pol, voat, /b/, the Donald etc all need your help right now. They're kinda having a bad day. --- |
| Topic | Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis |
| legendary_zell 08/12/17 11:10:58 PM #30 | Ammonitida posted... Even if every word of this is true, which it isn't, I don't wanna turn this into a side argument about whether the guy was part of the rioters or his intentions. There's enough video evidence to support the idea that he intentionally ran into these people and its very likely he did this because he supported their ideas. Though that's just one factor for this topic. These people are attacking his country, he is being attacked because of them, yet he doesn't attack them. What more do I want? The same thing other Republicans and politicians have already done. To call this out as Nazi/white supremacist violence specifically and condemn them specifically with the same force he attacks far less offensive things with. That's not some unreasonable request. Every President other than maybe Andrew Johnson would do that here. It's good that he has condemned David Duke but his rhetoric and the way he condemns Duke and others who think like him very clearly gives them and others the impression it's crafted to be weaker than necessary. That's simple not up for dispute at this point. Republicans, Democrats, and White Supremacists all agree that's what's happening. One side in the BLM situation was largely peacefully protesting about legitimate racial issues but some committed violence while others were supporting police. Two valid sides. So it made sense to make some equivalence. Here, we have Nazis vs non-Nazis. He can condemn both if he wants, but do it separately and completely for each side, don't make false equivalencies that make it seem like only one side is really being criticized on the same day Nazis are potentially killing and are at least beating people and conducting armed marches shouting Nazi slogans in the streets while others (non-Nazis, that bears infinite repeating) respond in anger. Again, I'm not pulling this out of nowhere, Marco Rubio freaking agrees. --- |
| Topic | Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis |
| legendary_zell 08/12/17 9:55:48 PM #11 | Ammonitida posted... This man's motives have not been determined. There were several cars in front of his trying to drive through a crowd slowly that was blocking the street. Based on videos and eyewitness accounts, he drives up to the crowd slowly and at some point accelerates. This man might have been very impatient and popped a fuse, leading to a road rage incident. I've seen this at other protests. There's no evidence at the moment that he was part of the rally in any capacity. Even if every word of this is true, which it isn't, that still wouldn't excuse Trump. His whole thing is attacking people specifically and viciously, yet he can't seem to find any venom for Nazis and those Nazis and everyone else are definitely noticing that. They must be specifically, forcefully, unequivocally discredited by Trump himself. Anything else will be taken as support by them. A lot of them are literally out there cosplaying as Trump while attacking people and giving nazi salutes, David Duke literally just said this violent rally is what MAGA really means. As President, and as someone with is personality, he has the responsibility to come down on them specifically and not resort to whataboutism, silence, deflection or anything else that would water down the message of "Fuck Nazis" If Obama had done this with the New Black Panthers after running a racially divisive campaign, the entire right would have (rightfully) burst into flame. --- |
| Topic | Trump condemns hate on "both sides".. |
| legendary_zell 08/12/17 9:41:09 PM #71 | https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/896492127911149568 I'll just leave this here. We don't even need to guess what effect Trump's lack of condemnation is having. The white supremacists will openly tell us. --- |
| Topic | Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis |
| legendary_zell 08/12/17 9:31:48 PM #8 | Monday posted... how do i into shitposting You don't need to ask me, you're doing it all over the board. Do you care to answer the question? Why is the man who got elected for speaking his mind, not being politically correct, being crude and confrontational, calling out those who needed to be called out etc now refusing to do any of that? He's instead drawing false equivalencies and switching to fake conciliatory language that has the "side effect" of allowing white supremacists to feel they are not condemned and are instead supported. Republicans know this, liberals know this, white supremacists know it, it seems only online trolls don't know it. --- |
| Topic | Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis |
| legendary_zell 08/12/17 9:17:02 PM #1 | https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/896492127911149568 We all know how intense and specific Trump can be when he wants to criticize a group or an individual. See Rosie, the Khan family, Cruz, Rubio, Hilary, Muslims, China, etc. Yet here we have people rioting with guns and other weapons, carrying Nazi and confederate flags, beating people, running people over. And all he can muster is a conspicuously weak and non-specific "same thing both sides". Meanwhile even other Republicans are openly condemning white supremacist racism and violence and directly calling out Trump for refusing to do so. It's not just a liberal conspiracy, everyone knows how important it is to call them out specifically and directly. Yet he refuses to do it. And it has the exact dog whistle effect anyone with a brain thinks it would. They feel emboldened and feel like he wasn't talking about them. That he didn't condemn them. That he only vaguely alluded to them in order to placate the public and he secretly supports them. This is coming from the white supremacists themselves, it's not being attributed to them by the left. How could anyone possibly defend this? He knows people are doing this in his name and they think he supports it, yet he refuses to do the politically and morally sensible thing and condemn literally nazis who are beating and murdering people. --- |
| Topic | Just visited redpill and MGTOW. Lol. Are the people there for real? |
| legendary_zell 08/07/17 9:59:05 AM #73 | I love how CE will defend these guys but feminists are dismissed out of hand and anyone who defends them is a white knight. No bias there at all. --- |
| Topic | George Clooney and his wife to open 7 schools for 3,000 refugee children |
| legendary_zell 08/06/17 12:13:20 PM #3 | |
| Topic | Seems like Malcom X gets swept to the side, why don't we celebrate him more? |
| legendary_zell 08/06/17 2:27:02 AM #162 | I'm sorry Proud, but you're being unbelievably, laughably dense here. In order to draw the equivalencies you're trying to draw, you have to minimize or erase centuries of American history. One person was reacting a present and past 100 percent filled with subjugation in every facet of political, social, economic, legal, you name it. Mass enslavement, murder, disenfranchisement, rape, subjugation of every single type imaginable in an unbroken chain, deprivation of almost any meaningful opportunity for true advancement and equality. It's not nearly just about personal experiences with white people murdering loved ones with impunity. That was only one expression of absolute white supremacy which the vast majority of whites either outright supported or did absolutely nothing to combat. When a group is subjugated like that, you can guarantee that's going to create some hatred. That's also create a feeling of inferiority in the people being oppressed. Malcolm X is revered because he was a mouthpiece for both the 100000 percent justified frustration and anger (that went too far into blanket hatred) AND the discovery of black pride. You must know by now that pride assertion by oppressed people's of self worth. I refuse to believe you don't know that by now with all the race debates you get into. I've seen people explain this to you 10 separate times. And even if that never happened, that's no excuse to be so ignorant of something so basic. It could be discovered through a 5 second google search. MLK went a different way, but he was taking a shot in the dark. The vast majority of reactions to violent oppression like what existed throughout literally all of American history until that point were and have continued to be violent. What he and Gandhi did has only happened a few times in history. Furthermore, he sure as hell was a radical. It's absolutely insane to say that he wasn't. Go read about his economic and overall societal views and his actual philosophies rather than this sterilized, theme park, 7th grade textbook version. Read what he said about white moderates, the expectation of limitless patience, the role of riots, etc. Does the fact that there were tons of abolitionists at the time of the founding mean that all the founding fathers that weren't rabid abolitionists were racist pieces of garbage? Because that's far less understandable than hating a group that hates you and acts on that hate in every way possible. And we definitely know how you feel about people judging the founders for their abhorrent views based on present day standards, but you're doing that in every post of this topic when it comes to Malcom X, a member of a group that was systematically mistreated and no clear way to fight oppression. --- |
| Topic | Why do you think the Trump administration has so many leaks? |
| legendary_zell 08/05/17 3:42:26 PM #33 | We've SEEN what the GOP is like when they despise someone. It was called the Obama presidency and it lasted 8 years. Passing a bill they don't like isn't comparable to swearing to cripple a presidency at its outset, threatening shutdowns, blocking qualified judges and other appointments, sabotaging peace deals, investigating cabinet members etc. They don't meaningfully despise Trump. They're happy to ride his coattails and at most serve milquetoast attacks on one hand while defending him from any real consequences with the other. --- |
| Topic | Sansa, JLaw, Robbie, Kloss admit: 'Studios ORDERED us 2 lose weight for roles.' |
| legendary_zell 08/04/17 9:27:46 PM #115 | Y'all are just some of the most bitter people out there. There's literally a 100 percent overlap between the people who don't understand why asking tiny, gorgeous people to lose more weight for no reason and creating the perception that even they are still fat is a bad thing and the resident anti-feminist brigade. I guess this is just one more battle in the culture wars, huh? If you have a problem with men being forced to bulk or cut excessively for roles, oppose that, don't use it as a weapon when someone else complains about it. --- |
| Topic | Man shames woman on first date after she sent his car plate number to a friend |
| legendary_zell 08/03/17 2:30:01 PM #446 | dave_is_slick posted... legendary_zell posted...It's not bad to show your feelings. No one is attacking him for that. It's for getting offended in this specific situation when we believe it doesn't make sense. Can you point to anyone attacking him purely for the act of showing feelings and not for lack of empathy/overreacting? Yeah, that's the debate. What I'm saying is that's a separate issue of attacking him for daring to feel feelings as a man. One is disputing the specific basis of his anger. The other is attacking him for being offended because men aren't allowed to offended. Completely different things. --- |
| Topic | Man shames woman on first date after she sent his car plate number to a friend |
| legendary_zell 08/03/17 2:19:55 PM #434 | DippinSauce posted... DuranOfForcena posted...DippinSauce posted...That_Happened posted...I'm not really concerned about how this act "set the tone" for a first date. The first thing I'd want to be sure of is that everyone is comfortable and feels safe. Because nothing goes off well on a date until that is accomplished. It's not bad to show your feelings. No one is attacking him for that. It's for getting offended in this specific situation when we believe it doesn't make sense. Can you point to anyone attacking him purely for the act of showing feelings and not for lack of empathy/overreacting? --- |
| Topic | Justice Department to take on affirmative action in college applications |
| legendary_zell 08/03/17 2:04:42 PM #128 | Now we are talking about the present. Legacy admissions currently still discriminate against blacks and Hispanics. Many schools still have significant under-representation of these groups. But even assuming they didn't and we're only talking about schools with adequate representation, legacy admissions won't even begin to equalize until the kids of the kids currently in school are applying to college themselves. --- |
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