Current Events > Why do you think the Trump administration has so many leaks?

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My pet theory is that Ivanka and Jared are the source of a lot of the leaks, because they're eager to maintain positive coverage and more cosmopolitan reputations for after this is all over.
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donnie himself is the leaker

the whole trump brand will be damaged goods once this admin is over
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How would Ivanka benefit from leaking anything? Other than on her dad's face of course.
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1. He has what is probably the most infighting-ridden administration in recent memory.

2. He openly surrounds himself with people who are primarily concerned in riding out his administration for as much cash as possible for as long as they can

There isn't a lot of loyalty. There can't be when your leader mainly exists for you to work around rather than be lead by him
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Smashingpmkns posted...

How would Ivanka benefit from leaking anything

If it results in slightly more positive coverage of her, separate from the administration as a whole, that could help her reputation going forward

Plus, Jared and Ivanka are the least likely to be punished of any leakers
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if house of cards taught me anything it's that the most moronic answer is the correct one, so it's trump himself
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He's not supposed to be there he isn't part of the establishment, of course there will be more leaks he has the most enemies in house of any President ever imo
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Lot of Obama holdovers in the administration.

One thing Trump really needs to get his shit together on is firing all of them and putting in people who aren't just salty asshats.
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Rusty pipes usually end up leaking.
Rust is orange-ish
Trump's skin is orange-ish
Trump is causing leaks

/logic
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Lot of Obama holdovers in the administration.

One thing Trump really needs to get his shit together on is firing all of them and putting in people who aren't just salty asshats.

so the people dont have a right to transparency?

I imagine there's a lot of people who are currently working for Trump who are not happy with how he is running things. Which is why we see a lot of leaks of here's how Trump acts in the White House. I'm pretty sure it's multiple people doing the leaking.

Can't really say I blame them tho. This is probably one of the worst administrations to work for.
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Leaks are the best way to drain a swamp.
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cos its full of piss

I'm skeptical of the claim that it's just Obama holdouts given the level and specificity of some of the leaks. Would Stray Aide #7 have access to diplomatic call readouts?
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More transparency than leaks.

Honestly, the govt probably done shady, illegal shit without us knowing. For better or worse, todays politics is focused on the system. Challenge the status quo. We got the oldest congress governing the country and wonder why 1 president is the source of its problems?

You should analyze both whats being said AND learning why our political system is operated like that.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

It's pretty funny (and Sad) that some people are still deluded into thinking Trump is antiestablishment

you'd have to be pretty naive to think otherwise
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A good leader gets loyalty and respect of their peers by their words and actions, Trump has shown himself to be a backstabber, a betrayer, loyal to nothing but his own money and barely his family and is constantly ignoring, belittling and insulting his own staff. For crying out loud even Michael Scott is better to work for than this asshole. The man actively encourages infighting among staff to see who gets to kiss big donnie's ass the most and gets angry when there's not enough conflict, he ran that show of his and his businesses the same way, probably because having people be at each other's necks is a great distraction to keep them from collectively noticing what a incompetent moron he really is.
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BignutzisBack posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

It's pretty funny (and Sad) that some people are still deluded into thinking Trump is antiestablishment

you'd have to be pretty naive to think otherwise

When half your party despises you, you're anti-establishment.

I mean, certainly more anti-establishment than Bernie Sanders is.
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Everything that has to do with Ivanka is being leaked by Ivanka.

Trump has also trained some of his advisors that the best way to get his attention is via the media, and leaking is a good way of doing that.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

When half your party despises you, you're anti-establishment.

We're talking about Donald Trump, who has support from well over half his party
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/325245-poll-trump-support-slipping-among-republicans-white-voters-men

Slightly more than 80 percent of Republicans now approve of the job the president is doing, down from 91 percent in the March 7 survey.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/20/steep-drop-among-republican-support-for-donald-tru/

The poll shows Mr. Trump with a 36 percent approval rating overall, with an 11-point drop among Republicans since April. At the 100-day mark, 83 percent of Republicans approved of Mr. Trump’s job in office, compared with 72 percent in the latest poll.

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Antifar posted...

We're talking about Donald Trump, who has support from well over half his party

Voters aren't members of the GOP

Are you under the impression that you're a member of the DNC?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Voters aren't members of the GOP

Are you under the impression that you're a member of the DNC?

He didn't vote for the Democratic candidate.

And regardless, you can be disliked while completely toeing the party line. That's hardly anti-establishment.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Are you under the impression that you're a member of the DNC?

Jesus Christ no. But the GOP power players haven't meaningfully opposed Trump since election day. His nominees largely sailed through congress. He's received virtually no pushback on his agenda or even his misdoings. If Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell despise Trump as you claim, they're doing a dreadful job of showing it.
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Antifar posted...

Jesus Christ no. But the GOP power players haven't meaningfully opposed Trump since election day.

Besides the Russia sanctions thing that literally just happened?

And remember when they just gave Colorado to Ted Cruz without even holding a vote?
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Bullet_Wing posted...

They did that because they know he's stupid enough to hang himself, given the rope.

So Trump is establishment because the whole party toes the line for him, except for all those times when they don't.

That's your logic here.
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I think the problem is that there are a bunch of people always in the white house who have various degrees of loyalty to a bunch of different people and groups
and so when the president surrounds himself with these people, he needs to be charismatic and get them to at the least remain professional with them so they feel that it's in their best interest to keep mum about certain things

but Trump is not Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. he is not nearly as personable as those three and manages to piss off his own party. so these people with no loyalty are never won over, so they feel fine with letting leaks go through
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We've SEEN what the GOP is like when they despise someone. It was called the Obama presidency and it lasted 8 years. Passing a bill they don't like isn't comparable to swearing to cripple a presidency at its outset, threatening shutdowns, blocking qualified judges and other appointments, sabotaging peace deals, investigating cabinet members etc.

They don't meaningfully despise Trump. They're happy to ride his coattails and at most serve milquetoast attacks on one hand while defending him from any real consequences with the other.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

So Trump is establishment because the whole party toes the line for him, except for all those times when they don't.

I think the extent to which the GOP has fallen in line behind him far outweighs the extent to which sanctions on Russia rebuke Trump.
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Because the Trump administration is trash just like Trump.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Or, as we've discovered, someone who doesn't actually understand the term "antiestablishment"

*ding ding*
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Also worth noting that establishments exist outside of the inner circles of major political parties. The Wall Street establishment sure isn't feeling threatened by Trump.
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disgruntled people
maybe people looking to make a name within the republican party by taking down trump cause they wanted bush or cruz.
laughs
17 dimensional chess to district you from what he is really doing.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

They're protecting him and themselves. It's like taking matches away from your toddler. How many appointments of Trump's did they block? How many of his policies did they block? They even tried to get the pointless wall included before Democrats gave that a hard "no". Trump had the GOP in his pocket and completely squandered it. Not by being anti establishment, but by being an insecure manchild drunk on power.

So in other words, the establishment isn't in his corner.

The GOP was never in his pocket. The only way you can believe this is if your memory span doesn't extend beyond when Trump won the primaries.
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I figured maybe a lot of the people in his administration think he's a dope and want him ousted so Pence can take over
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

So in other words, the establishment isn't in his corner.

That doesn't make HIM anti-establishment, that makes the establishment anti-Trump.
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Anteaterking posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

So in other words, the establishment isn't in his corner.

That doesn't make HIM anti-establishment, that makes the establishment anti-Trump.

Mal's analytic skills led him to believe that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay and were leftists. It's not his strong suit.
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The mental gymnastics that Mal is performing ITT is astounding.
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Anyway to answer TC's question

Trump doesn't inspire much loyalty to the people working for him. As we've seen repeatedly, most notably and recently with Sessions, he doesn't exactly hesitate to backstab the people who actually are loyal to him. So any sort of reasonable or intelligent person in his administration is probably interested in taking him down and replacing him with a more stable boss

The federal government itself is full of career staff who likely despise Trump.
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It's Obama. Trump is probably ready to challenge him to a duel.
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I think it might be Mike Pence. :o If he can get Trump impeached, he'll get to be president. He has the most to gain.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I think it might be Mike Pence. :o If he can get Trump impeached, he'll get to be president. He has the most to gain.

I had a theory months ago that Pence was the source of the WaPo stories about Mike Flynn.
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