Current Events > Charles Barkley says black people don't think about Confederate statues

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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/18/charles-barkley-thing-two-say-statue-busting-antifa-not-going-like-526759

When asked what we should do about the confederate statues, Barkley quipped: “I’m 54 years old. I’ve never thought about those statues a day in my life. If you ask most black people, they haven’t thought a day in their lives about those stupid statues.”

Barkley — who has long called for an end black-on-black violence — said African-Americans need to focus on important things, not on empty virtue-signaling symbolism that does nothing to advance their cause.

“What we as black people need to do is: we have to worry about getting our education,” he said. “We need to stop killing each other. We need to try to find ways to have more economic opportunity. Those things are important (not worrying about stupid statues).”

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he's right in the sense its not the biggest issue facing the Black community but its still relevant.

Black Lives Matter could learn a thing or two from him.
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But will he ever attempt the Chaos Dunk again?
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You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems.
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Ah, finally! I've been dying to know what zero time champion and known doofus, Charles Barkley, thought about this current social issue.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

But will he ever attempt the Chaos Dunk again?

*googles*

I must now play this.
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I'm white and a southern hillbilly and I never gave them a single thought either.

The American Civil War is just something that happened a long time ago and has no meaning at this very moment.

Like I'm pretty sure the blacks killing each other in Detroit, Chicago and Baltimore aren't doing it because of a war that happened like around a 155 years ago.
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lightwarrior78 posted...

You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems.

"Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however.

When did it stop being about the slams and jams
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Its just another example of white SJWs losing their shit over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Its just another example of white SJWs losing their shit over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about

1. I don't think Charles Barkley is ACTUALLY the agreed upon spokesman for the African American community. I could be wrong though.

2. African Americans aren't the only "group" that are "offended". I think so, at least. Let's see what Charles Barkley has to say about other "groups" first.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems.

"Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however.

It's a slippery slope that has people concerned (including the President). Many of the founding fathers were slave owners and overtly racist. One may have had sex with his slaves (Jefferson, although this has not been 100% established). There are frequent calls to remove monuments to these people. Al Sharpton talked about defunding the Jefferson memorial and placing it in a museum (lol).

http://canadafreepress.com/article/sharpton-targets-the-jefferson-memorial

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Its just another example of white SJWs losing their shit over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about

Just because it's not on our minds 24/7 doesn't mean it's something we're okay with. A black person in Compton is probably not worried about that, but if you asked, there's a 90 percent chance they're not okay with it and would prefer they weren't there at all.

Not that you actually care about the opinions of minorities. Even with widespread agreement among black people that such monuments should be removed, you would still say "what about black on black crime " or just get over it". Don't use hypothetical minority opinions as a weapon or a shield unless those opinions actually affect your worldview.
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Its just another example of white SJWs losing their shit over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about

assumption!

Ammonitida posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems.

"Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however.

It's a slippery slope that has people concerned (including the President). Many of the founding fathers were slave owners and overtly racist. One may have had sex with his slaves (Jefferson, although this has not been 100% established). There are frequent calls to remove monuments to these people. Al Sharpton talked about defunding the Jefferson memorial and placing it in a museum (lol).

http://canadafreepress.com/article/sharpton-targets-the-jefferson-memorial

Yea they were slave owners. Did they actively fight to leave the United States over it? During the civil rights movement it was just "the way of the time" that people considered African Americans inferior. Should we celebrate those in time that actively fought to keep them from getting equal rights just because "that's the way it was at the time"?

Nothing the confederacy did is worth celebrating today. It's worth remembering for historical reasons. Not celebrating and cheering.

When we celebrate Thomas Jefferson it's not about him owning slaves. When we celebrate confederacy soldiers it's about a war they fought in. One where they fought to leave the country. Why celebrate that?

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Its just another example of white SJWs losing their shit over something that the "offended group" doesn't even care about

Scores of blacks people not only want those statues down, but have physically removed them (see Bree newsome)

You have no fucking clue what we do or don't care about
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He's right though
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True.

Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a fuck about statues. Why would a black guy?
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TheVipaGTS posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems.

"Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however.

I didn't say it's okay. I said they were a functionally useless activities chosen because they are able to be done mostly by being mad on social media rather than the actual tangible positive impact they'd have, as well as implying the selfishness of putting so much energy into low return projects as a form of dick measuring virtue signaling while people that need real help aren't getting it.

Sorry, but as someone that's lived and worked in the non-profit charity sector most of my life, I see more good being done in a single bag of groceries dropped off at a food bank than the cumulative confederate nazi decrying done in the last week.
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Etherealfare posted...

True.

Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a fuck about statues. Why would a black guy?

Texas isn't the South.
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lightwarrior78 posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

You get the same thing with native Americans and the Washington redskins. It's pretty far down the list of issues they'd like addressed to the point of it looking like a rich white person's attempt to do the easiest good they can rather than address more pressing problems.

"Black people don't care about so it's ok.."....huh? The point is as a country the history of a group of men attempting to leave the United States and having slavery be one of the major factors in their reasoning is not one that should be celebrated. It's historic. It should be talked about. I don't think those people should be put on a pedestal, however.

I didn't say it's okay. I said they were a functionally useless activities chosen because they are able to be done mostly by being mad on social media rather than the actual tangible positive impact they'd have, as well as implying the selfishness of putting so much energy into low return projects as a form of dick measuring virtue signaling while people that need real help aren't getting it.

Sorry, but as someone that's lived and worked in the non-profit charity sector most of my life, I see more good being done in a single bag of groceries dropped off at a food bank than the cumulative confederate nazi decrying done in the last week.

These things are by no means mutually exclusive. I'd bet there's a huge overlap between the Nazi haters and the people donating. I work at a legal aid organization and literally every single one of us is vocally anti Nazi.
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JohnLennon6 posted...

Etherealfare posted...

True.

Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a fuck about statues. Why would a black guy?

Texas isn't the South.

tagged appropriately

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

Etherealfare posted...

True.

Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a fuck about statues. Why would a black guy?

Texas isn't the South.

tagged appropriately

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

Culturally and historically, Texas is largely considered an outsider, independent from what we traditionally refer to as the American South.

From what i know about the history of texas....
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

Etherealfare posted...

True.

Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a fuck about statues. Why would a black guy?

Texas isn't the South.

tagged appropriately

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

JohnLennon6 posted...

Etherealfare posted...

True.

Hell I'm White *AND* I live in Texas (the South) and *I* don't even give a fuck about statues. Why would a black guy?

Texas isn't the South.

tagged appropriately

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

Oklahoma, Maryland, and Delaware are also not Southern.
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Those statues were put up to intimidate blacks. They might have lost that impact over the year but the message is still clear.
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creativerealms posted...

Those statues were put up to intimidate blacks. They might have lost that impact over the year but the message is still clear.

big if true
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Coffeebeanz posted...

But will he ever attempt the Chaos Dunk again?

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Glad to see him call out this hollow virtue signaling for what it is.
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I don't care, but if you want them taken down just be careful about what you say when Islamists destroy Assyrian idols.
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I've never even seen one of these statues.
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Most of those statues are cheaply made molds that were put on pedestals in the 1900's anyway. They were used as reminders in the south during segregation. Nothing honorable or cultural about them.
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XHJYFL posted...

“What we as black people need to do is

Little did he know the divisive irony
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DevsBro posted...

I've never even seen one of these statues.

Neither have I and I lived in the South my whole life.

They're just statues made of rock or some shit anyway.

Hell if people are that worked up about them then just put up pictures of your heroes or the war in you home.

And then if others don't like it then they can just leave.
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rich person says thing

I don't think about climate change unless it's brought up.

Does that make it okay
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We used to have a Jefferson Davis statue on my campus.

It was taken down by a student council vote.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Most of those statues are cheaply made molds that were put on pedestals in the 1900's anyway. They were used as reminders in the south during segregation. Nothing honorable or cultural about them.

It was funny how poorly made some of these things are. When those people pulled down the one the entire thing broke in half and was dented by people kicking it. Not to mention if they look tacky as all hell.

I mean look at this thing:

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Careful Muta your bias is showing in that post mods might get ya.

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Most of those statues are cheaply made molds that were put on pedestals in the 1900's anyway. They were used as reminders in the south during segregation. Nothing honorable or cultural about them.

It was funny how poorly made some of these things are. When those people pulled down the one the entire thing broke in half and was dented by people kicking it. Not to mention if they look tacky as all hell.

I mean look at this thing:

Hes not even looking where he is shooting
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

"I came"
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I still don't understand why the horse is so much bigger than him
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Bottom line is no one cared about this shit until the media told them too

I don't understand this. You can focus on more than one thing. You can focus on substantive issues, and symbolic ones. It's not hard. What pisses me off about this, is that he's not telling conservative White people that their ideas don't matter. They can have their status quo as they've always had. Barkley's idea keeps them comfortable.

No, if black people want to change things for the better, and keep in mind that contrary to his comments, a lot of black people don't like these statues, they have to shut up and move on. That's bull****, Chuck. But go ahead, man. Keep on saying things that please White people who otherwise wouldn't give a damn about your opinion. 'You lecture those errant blacks, Chuck.'
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And most white people never think about them either, most normal people never even think about them or give them a second thought.

Which is exactly why they shouldn't be there or have ever been put up in the first place.
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Santorin posted...

Bottom line is no one cared about this shit until the media told them too

100% unadulterated bull****. Several of the commemorations were controversial when they were first memorialized. Black people have had issues with it for years. It sounds like you're just now becoming aware of it.
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