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Antifar 08/29/17 8:39:51 AM #1:	http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article169658772.html Betsy Winkler’s first stop is the bakery counter. It is early on a drizzly summer morning, and the grocery store is neat and quiet. But when the sleepy clerks roll out carts brimming with past-their-prime breads and pastries, the 60-year-old gets to work. She fills the back of her dusty green minivan, neatly stacking croissants and chocolate muffins, cookies and cinnamon rolls, Dutch apple pie and foot-long hot dog rolls. In an hour or so, the volunteer will deliver the baked goods to the Kuna Good Neighbors Inc. food bank. Before that, though, Winkler has another stop to make: the grocery store dumpster. That’s where she gathers the fruit and vegetables that will sustain her throughout the week. What she does not eat she will can, freeze or dry for even leaner times. Winkler’s husband, David, has Alzheimer’s disease. She can no longer care for the 69-year-old in the converted garage she calls home. Every month, Winkler now writes a hefty check to pay for her husband’s assisted living facility. And when it comes to her own needs and wants, Winkler makes do. After she’s paid the bills, she tries to live on just $30 a month. While $1 a day doesn’t go very far, Winkler knows she needs to have something in savings to pay for the increased cost of David’s care as his condition worsens. The Winklers represent the intersection of two Gem State demographic trends. Idaho’s population is graying faster than the nation as a whole. And more than a third of the state’s households have difficulty making ends meet each month, left behind by a booming economy with its help-wanted signs and soaring construction cranes. Which is why Winkler is pushing aside boxes of corn husks and watermelon rinds in search of summer’s bounty in a grocery store’s garbage. “There’s peppers, asparagus, lettuce. Here’s a whole bag of potatoes and some apples,” she says, head down, intent. “They’re starting to get bad, so they toss them out. But there’s some nice potatoes. See? It’s just not up to their quality. ... “I’ve been gathering up mushrooms lately,” she continues. “I probably have enough to last me through the winter. Any other mushrooms I get, they just go direct to the food bank. I’m not gonna be greedy about it.” She opens up an ear of corn before filling up her back seat. There is more than enough for her and her struggling neighbors. “There might be a bug in the top,” she says. “You cut it off!” At the food bank — a collection of coolers, cupboards and open shelves in the carport of a private home — no one notices blemishes or expiration dates. They are grateful for the groceries. Period. Keith Hartmann, who had a stroke two years ago and cannot work, drives up in his white pickup truck as Winkler unloads her van. The 57-year-old is especially glad for the mostly fresh produce Winkler has delivered, because he’s been trying to drop a few pounds. “I try to eat healthy,” he says. “And it’s expensive. ... We’re on a fixed income. When we go shopping, it’s like, ‘We can’t get this. We’re on a budget.’ Before it was, ‘You can never spend too much on food.’ This is a blessing.” America is already great --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:885646841] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article169658772.html <quote>Betsy Winkler’s first stop is the bakery counter. It is early on a drizzly summer morning, and the grocery store is neat and quiet. But when the sleepy clerks roll out carts brimming with past-their-prime breads and pastries, the 60-year-old gets to work. She fills the back of her dusty green minivan, neatly stacking croissants and chocolate muffins, cookies and cinnamon rolls, Dutch apple pie and foot-long hot dog rolls. In an hour or so, the volunteer will deliver the baked goods to the Kuna Good Neighbors Inc. food bank. Before that, though, Winkler has another stop to make: the grocery store dumpster. That’s where she gathers the fruit and vegetables that will sustain her throughout the week. What she does not eat she will can, freeze or dry for even leaner times. Winkler’s husband, David, has Alzheimer’s disease. She can no longer care for the 69-year-old in the converted garage she calls home. Every month, Winkler now writes a hefty check to pay for her husband’s assisted living facility. And when it comes to her own needs and wants, Winkler makes do. After she’s paid the bills, she tries to live on just $30 a month. While $1 a day doesn’t go very far, Winkler knows she needs to have something in savings to pay for the increased cost of David’s care as his condition worsens. The Winklers represent the intersection of two Gem State demographic trends. Idaho’s population is graying faster than the nation as a whole. And more than a third of the state’s households have difficulty making ends meet each month, left behind by a booming economy with its help-wanted signs and soaring construction cranes. Which is why Winkler is pushing aside boxes of corn husks and watermelon rinds in search of summer’s bounty in a grocery store’s garbage. “There’s peppers, asparagus, lettuce. Here’s a whole bag of potatoes and some apples,” she says, head down, intent. “They’re starting to get bad, so they toss them out. But there’s some nice potatoes. See? It’s just not up to their quality. ... “I’ve been gathering up mushrooms lately,” she continues. “I probably have enough to last me through the winter. Any other mushrooms I get, they just go direct to the food bank. I’m not gonna be greedy about it.” She opens up an ear of corn before filling up her back seat. There is more than enough for her and her struggling neighbors. “There might be a bug in the top,” she says. “You cut it off!” At the food bank — a collection of coolers, cupboards and open shelves in the carport of a private home — no one notices blemishes or expiration dates. They are grateful for the groceries. Period. Keith Hartmann, who had a stroke two years ago and cannot work, drives up in his white pickup truck as Winkler unloads her van. The 57-year-old is especially glad for the mostly fresh produce Winkler has delivered, because he’s been trying to drop a few pounds. “I try to eat healthy,” he says. “And it’s expensive. ... We’re on a fixed income. When we go shopping, it’s like, ‘We can’t get this. We’re on a budget.’ Before it was, ‘You can never spend too much on food.’ This is a blessing.”</quote> America is already great</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_cajun88 08/29/17 8:43:36 AM #2:	Reading this pissed me off. So you're telling me that we can read about this all over the country, and this is STILL happening? --- http://i.imgur.com/OkvDFD3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/owvpCYR.jpg <cite>the_cajun88 posted [p:885646961] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Reading this pissed me off. So you're telling me that we can read about this all over the country, and this is STILL happening?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 08/29/17 8:44:20 AM #3:	Antifar posted... America is already great needing to eat out of dumpsters is a proud american tradition --- http://i.imgur.com/yCW15Zn.jpg <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:885646983] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>America is already great</quote> needing to eat out of dumpsters is a proud american tradition</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/29/17 8:44:57 AM #4:	Fair, she shouldn't take more from the pot than she puts in. Oh wait, I'm not Proudclad. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:885647001] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Fair, she shouldn't take more from the pot than she puts in. Oh wait, I'm not Proudclad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 08/29/17 8:45:18 AM #5:	Unless he's is a fancy upscale nursing home they should be able to just take his disability check. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:885647012] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Unless he's is a fancy upscale nursing home they should be able to just take his disability check.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 08/29/17 8:56:04 AM #6:	Reading that made me really sad. I remember when I was kid fleeing the war in Bosnia, and often my family would have to look for food in the fields just to stay alive until we got to a safe zone. I'm now a proud American but one thing that pisses me off greatly about the USA is how much we virtue signal when it comes to helping foreigners. Instead of helping our poor and homeless, we instead ask for foreign poor to come here so we can take care of them. For fucks sake America. This is why you have welfare, it's for people like this. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:885647430] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Reading that made me really sad. I remember when I was kid fleeing the war in Bosnia, and often my family would have to look for food in the fields just to stay alive until we got to a safe zone. I'm now a proud American but one thing that pisses me off greatly about the USA is how much we virtue signal when it comes to helping foreigners. Instead of helping our poor and homeless, we instead ask for foreign poor to come here so we can take care of them. For fucks sake America. This is why you have welfare, it's for people like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/29/17 8:56:41 AM #7:	It's a shame there isn't some process in place for recycling food from the grocery stores. People shouldnt have to dig through trash for stuff that is still perfectly fine to eat. That's the thing about expiration dates - it's just an estimate. There isn't some switch that clicks over from good to bad after a specific number of days. Some things don't go bad until way after the expiration date, but it's there as a legal requirement. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:885647449] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>It's a shame there isn't some process in place for recycling food from the grocery stores. People shouldnt have to dig through trash for stuff that is still perfectly fine to eat. That's the thing about expiration dates - it's just an estimate. There isn't some switch that clicks over from good to bad after a specific number of days. Some things don't go bad until way after the expiration date, but it's there as a legal requirement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Newhopes 08/29/17 8:56:48 AM #8:	Thanks Obama. <cite>Newhopes posted [p:885647454] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Thanks Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/29/17 9:02:47 AM #9:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... For fucks sake America. This is why you have welfare, it's for people like this. It's for everyone in America, regardless of country of origin. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:885647638] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>For fucks sake America. This is why you have welfare, it's for people like this.</quote> It's for everyone in America, regardless of country of origin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/29/17 9:08:24 AM #10:	The American health care system everybody. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:885647822] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>The American health care system everybody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 08/29/17 9:13:38 AM #11:	Absolutely nothing wrong with eating out of a dunkin donuts dumpster. Gotta throw out the day olds and they are always in a separate bag as the actual trash. --- Put your grasses on... <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:885647999] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely nothing wrong with eating out of a dunkin donuts dumpster. Gotta throw out the day olds and they are always in a separate bag as the actual trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 9:23:48 AM #12:	What comes in: David gets $4,300 each month from his two pensions, his small disability payment and Social Security. The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs gives him $1,640 each month through a program called Aid and Attendance to help defray the cost of assisted living. Total in: around $5,940 each month. What goes out: Aid and Attendance comes with strings. Winkler cannot work, she says. If her income goes up, that benefit will go down. To receive it, David loses his $200 or so disability payment. Ashley Manor costs $4,000 each month. The couple’s other bills come to around $1,000. Total out: around $5,200. What’s left for Winkler each month: about $740. But she tries to spend no more than $30, about half of which goes straight into her gas tank. Winkler lives on five acres in Kuna, with her daughter, son-in-law and two granddaughters. It is the farm she and David used to run when they were able. There are chickens for eggs, lambs for meat, a garden for produce to augment the dumpster. sounds like they're receiving a middle class income, have plenty of land and animals, and are just getting shafted by the facility providing the treatment. but of course you wouldn't have expected these details to be included in the opening post. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885648337] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><quote>What comes in: David gets $4,300 each month from his two pensions, his small disability payment and Social Security. The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs gives him $1,640 each month through a program called Aid and Attendance to help defray the cost of assisted living. Total in: around $5,940 each month. What goes out: Aid and Attendance comes with strings. Winkler cannot work, she says. If her income goes up, that benefit will go down. To receive it, David loses his $200 or so disability payment. Ashley Manor costs $4,000 each month. The couple’s other bills come to around $1,000. Total out: around $5,200. What’s left for Winkler each month: about $740. But she tries to spend no more than $30, about half of which goes straight into her gas tank. Winkler lives on five acres in Kuna, with her daughter, son-in-law and two granddaughters. It is the farm she and David used to run when they were able. There are chickens for eggs, lambs for meat, a garden for produce to augment the dumpster.</quote> sounds like they're receiving a middle class income, have plenty of land and animals, and are just getting shafted by the facility providing the treatment. but of course you wouldn't have expected these details to be included in the opening post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 08/29/17 9:54:27 AM #13:	FLUFFYGERM posted... What comes in: David gets $4,300 each month from his two pensions, his small disability payment and Social Security. The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs gives him $1,640 each month through a program called Aid and Attendance to help defray the cost of assisted living. Total in: around $5,940 each month. What goes out: Aid and Attendance comes with strings. Winkler cannot work, she says. If her income goes up, that benefit will go down. To receive it, David loses his $200 or so disability payment. Ashley Manor costs $4,000 each month. The couple’s other bills come to around $1,000. Total out: around $5,200. What’s left for Winkler each month: about $740. But she tries to spend no more than $30, about half of which goes straight into her gas tank. Winkler lives on five acres in Kuna, with her daughter, son-in-law and two granddaughters. It is the farm she and David used to run when they were able. There are chickens for eggs, lambs for meat, a garden for produce to augment the dumpster. sounds like they're receiving a middle class income, have plenty of land and animals, and are just getting shafted by the facility providing the treatment. but of course you wouldn't have expected these details to be included in the opening post. Yeah --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:885649470] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><quote>What comes in: David gets $4,300 each month from his two pensions, his small disability payment and Social Security. The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs gives him $1,640 each month through a program called Aid and Attendance to help defray the cost of assisted living. Total in: around $5,940 each month. What goes out: Aid and Attendance comes with strings. Winkler cannot work, she says. If her income goes up, that benefit will go down. To receive it, David loses his $200 or so disability payment. Ashley Manor costs $4,000 each month. The couple’s other bills come to around $1,000. Total out: around $5,200. What’s left for Winkler each month: about $740. But she tries to spend no more than $30, about half of which goes straight into her gas tank. Winkler lives on five acres in Kuna, with her daughter, son-in-law and two granddaughters. It is the farm she and David used to run when they were able. There are chickens for eggs, lambs for meat, a garden for produce to augment the dumpster.</quote> sounds like they're receiving a middle class income, have plenty of land and animals, and are just getting shafted by the facility providing the treatment. but of course you wouldn't have expected these details to be included in the opening post.</quote> Yeah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 08/29/17 10:13:27 AM #14:	This is dumb because if she went and visited her husband in his facility they'd feed her for free --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:885650279] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>This is dumb because if she went and visited her husband in his facility they'd feed her for free</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 08/29/17 10:15:24 AM #15:	That's disgusting. Put padlocks on dumpsters, please. --- http://i.imgur.com/gIoselB.gif https://i.imgur.com/p8iCfHF.jpg <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:885650386] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>That's disgusting. Put padlocks on dumpsters, please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/29/17 10:28:27 AM #16:	thronedfire2 posted... This is dumb because if she went and visited her husband in his facility they'd feed her for free Any proof they would? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:885650932] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>This is dumb because if she went and visited her husband in his facility they'd feed her for free</quote> Any proof they would?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kingbuffet 08/29/17 10:39:54 AM #17:	Don't you just love capitalism? <cite>Kingbuffet posted [p:885651432] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Don't you just love capitalism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 08/29/17 10:45:09 AM #18:	spikethedevil posted... thronedfire2 posted... This is dumb because if she went and visited her husband in his facility they'd feed her for free Any proof they would? I've worked in nursing homes for 13 years I guarantee when this story gets to someone at the place they tell her to come there to eat --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:885651659] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>This is dumb because if she went and visited her husband in his facility they'd feed her for free</quote> Any proof they would?</quote> I've worked in nursing homes for 13 years I guarantee when this story gets to someone at the place they tell her to come there to eat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 08/29/17 10:46:55 AM #19:	america --- https://my.mixtape.moe/hhlayb.jpg <cite>FightingGames posted [p:885651730] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>america</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BootyGif 08/29/17 10:47:12 AM #20:	American healthcare is shit Thanks Kaiser --- https://i.imgtc.com/4s4wNqG.png <cite>BootyGif posted [p:885651753] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>American healthcare is shit Thanks Kaiser</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 11:34:05 AM #21:	Kingbuffet posted... Don't you just love capitalism? wait what does capitalism have to do with this <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885653883] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kingbuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Don't you just love capitalism?</quote> wait what does capitalism have to do with this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 08/29/17 11:38:44 AM #22:	My hippie friends dumpster dive all the time. Stores literally throw away whole pizzas and just place them on top of trash bags. They get rid of perfectly good fruit because it's slightly bruised, and they even wrap it up in two plastic bags. They'll toss an entire box of 20 power bars because it's one day past some made up date. My one friend ate for free for 5 months, but she is a weird hippie vegan --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:885654113] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>My hippie friends dumpster dive all the time. Stores literally throw away whole pizzas and just place them on top of trash bags. They get rid of perfectly good fruit because it's slightly bruised, and they even wrap it up in two plastic bags. They'll toss an entire box of 20 power bars because it's one day past some made up date. My one friend ate for free for 5 months, but she is a weird hippie vegan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 7:20:19 PM #23:	bump <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885680369] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 08/29/17 7:21:19 PM #24:	nice sob story --- http://i.imgur.com/HtxqKRp.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:885680429] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>nice sob story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HesOurYou 08/29/17 7:23:36 PM #25:	She should get a job. --- #SomeLikeItHoth <cite>HesOurYou posted [p:885680547] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>She should get a job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 08/29/17 7:28:18 PM #26:	Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:885680842] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/29/17 7:30:22 PM #27:	if this were me, I'd rather opt for euthanasia instead of my wife suffer for my ailment. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:885680948] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>if this were me, I'd rather opt for euthanasia instead of my wife suffer for my ailment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/29/17 7:30:48 PM #28:	MangaFan462 posted... Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:885680970] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HesOurYou 08/29/17 7:31:34 PM #29:	chrono625 posted... MangaFan462 posted... Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown. Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age. --- #SomeLikeItHoth <cite>HesOurYou posted [p:885681019] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown.</quote> Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/29/17 7:32:46 PM #30:	HesOurYou posted... chrono625 posted... MangaFan462 posted... Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown. Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age. are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement? --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:885681089] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>HesOurYou posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown.</quote> Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age.</quote> are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HesOurYou 08/29/17 7:34:14 PM #31:	chrono625 posted... HesOurYou posted... chrono625 posted... MangaFan462 posted... Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown. Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age. are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement? I am preparing for the future, yes. Anything can happen. --- #SomeLikeItHoth <cite>HesOurYou posted [p:885681175] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HesOurYou posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown.</quote> Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age.</quote> are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement?</quote> I am preparing for the future, yes. Anything can happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 08/29/17 7:37:35 PM #33:	chrono625 posted... HesOurYou posted... chrono625 posted... MangaFan462 posted... Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown. Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age. are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement? sorry to break it to you but yeah unless you have perfect family history and don't do anything bad to your body you should expect stuff like that to happen when you get old enough --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:885681407] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HesOurYou posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown.</quote> Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age.</quote> are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement?</quote> sorry to break it to you but yeah unless you have perfect family history and don't do anything bad to your body you should expect stuff like that to happen when you get old enough</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForestLogic 08/29/17 7:38:00 PM #34:	What the fuck. She has $740 leftover a month but chooses to eat out of dumpsters, so we should feel sorry for her? My fiance and I have about $400 free cash after bills and we eat like kings because we shop smart. And we don't have the luxury of living on a fucking farm like they do. This is sensationalist journalism at its finest. Woman is choosing to do this of her own volition, but it gets pitched as THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS SO BAD THIS WOMAN EATS FROM DUMPSTERS. --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic http://www.poorcouplesfoodguide.com - Pizza Time! <cite>ForestLogic posted [p:885681450] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>What the fuck. She has $740 leftover a month but chooses to eat out of dumpsters, so we should feel sorry for her? My fiance and I have about $400 free cash after bills and we eat like kings because we shop smart. And we don't have the luxury of living on a fucking farm like they do. This is sensationalist journalism at its finest. Woman is choosing to do this of her own volition, but it gets pitched as THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS SO BAD THIS WOMAN EATS FROM DUMPSTERS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 08/29/17 7:38:12 PM #35:	chrono625 posted... if this were me, I'd rather opt for euthanasia instead of my wife suffer for my ailment. Could he even consent to that? --- I've lost the use of my heart, but I'm still alive. <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:885681460] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>if this were me, I'd rather opt for euthanasia instead of my wife suffer for my ailment.</quote> Could he even consent to that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 7:38:36 PM #36:	JustMyOpinion posted... She grew up during the easiest generation to make money. Wages kept up with inflation. You didn't have to go to college. College didn't cost a mortgage. Housing was much cheaper. Pensions existed outside of government jobs. One breadwinner could support a family. If she can't make ends meet growing up on easy mode then she has no one to blame but herself. not to mention she has a lot of land, animals, and a guaranteed middle class income from the government <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885681477] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>JustMyOpinion posted...</cite> <quote>She grew up during the easiest generation to make money. Wages kept up with inflation. You didn't have to go to college. College didn't cost a mortgage. Housing was much cheaper. Pensions existed outside of government jobs. One breadwinner could support a family. If she can't make ends meet growing up on easy mode then she has no one to blame but herself.</quote> not to mention she has a lot of land, animals, and a guaranteed middle class income from the government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 7:39:00 PM #37:	ForestLogic posted... What the fuck. She has $740 leftover a month but chooses to eat out of dumpsters, so we should feel sorry for her? My fiance and I have about $400 free cash after bills and we eat like kings because we shop smart. And we don't have the luxury of living on a fucking farm like they do. This is sensationalist journalism at its finest. Woman is choosing to do this of her own volition, but it gets pitched as THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS SO BAD THIS WOMAN EATS FROM DUMPSTERS. @Antifar <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885681492] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>ForestLogic posted...</cite> <quote>What the fuck. She has $740 leftover a month but chooses to eat out of dumpsters, so we should feel sorry for her? My fiance and I have about $400 free cash after bills and we eat like kings because we shop smart. And we don't have the luxury of living on a fucking farm like they do. This is sensationalist journalism at its finest. Woman is choosing to do this of her own volition, but it gets pitched as THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IS SO BAD THIS WOMAN EATS FROM DUMPSTERS.</quote> @Antifar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 08/29/17 7:40:15 PM #38:	Kingbuffet posted... Don't you just love capitalism? Charity isn't profitable, fair next, etc <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:885681561] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kingbuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Don't you just love capitalism?</quote> Charity isn't profitable, fair next, etc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 7:41:39 PM #39:	Rexdragon125 posted... Kingbuffet posted... Don't you just love capitalism? Charity isn't profitable, fair next, etc why are you being dishonest <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885681634] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rexdragon125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kingbuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Don't you just love capitalism?</quote> Charity isn't profitable, fair next, etc</quote> why are you being dishonest</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 08/29/17 7:42:27 PM #40:	Rexdragon125 posted... Kingbuffet posted... Don't you just love capitalism? Charity isn't profitable, fair next, etc What does this have to do with capitalism --- http://i.imgur.com/HtxqKRp.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:885681685] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rexdragon125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kingbuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Don't you just love capitalism?</quote> Charity isn't profitable, fair next, etc</quote> What does this have to do with capitalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 08/29/17 7:43:00 PM #41:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Kingbuffet posted... Don't you just love capitalism? wait what does capitalism have to do with this I would also like to know, since it's basically the opposite. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:885681721] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kingbuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Don't you just love capitalism?</quote> wait what does capitalism have to do with this</quote> I would also like to know, since it's basically the opposite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/29/17 7:43:29 PM #42:	thronedfire2 posted... chrono625 posted... HesOurYou posted... chrono625 posted... MangaFan462 posted... Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown. Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age. are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement? sorry to break it to you but yeah unless you have perfect family history and don't do anything bad to your body you should expect stuff like that to happen when you get old enough dude, do you know how much money these places cost? 5k a month for his assisted living expense is dirt cheap. If you're planning on being a cripple and living from your 60s till death at a home then you better have a million dollars saved for it. yeah, shit happens, but no one is planning on developing a severe disease like Alzheimer's at such an early age. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:885681758] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HesOurYou posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>Sucks they didn't plan their lives properly</quote> no one plans to get Alzheimer's you clown.</quote> Why not? You need to plan properly for the future at a young age.</quote> are you planning for Parkinsons or ALS or any other debilitating disease for your retirement?</quote> sorry to break it to you but yeah unless you have perfect family history and don't do anything bad to your body you should expect stuff like that to happen when you get old enough</quote> dude, do you know how much money these places cost? 5k a month for his assisted living expense is dirt cheap. If you're planning on being a cripple and living from your 60s till death at a home then you better have a million dollars saved for it. yeah, shit happens, but no one is planning on developing a severe disease like Alzheimer's at such an early age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 08/29/17 7:53:31 PM #43:	Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:885682301] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote>Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 7:56:07 PM #45:	legendary_zell posted... Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue. should food be free? and water? shelter? her lack of planning is the biggest reason to blame. people in this position should have enough of a retirement fund that their social security is just a cherry on top. irresonsibility is costly. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885682449] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue.</quote> should food be free? and water? shelter? her lack of planning is the biggest reason to blame. people in this position should have enough of a retirement fund that their social security is just a cherry on top. irresonsibility is costly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 08/29/17 8:51:35 PM #46:	FLUFFYGERM posted... legendary_zell posted... Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue. should food be free? and water? shelter? her lack of planning is the biggest reason to blame. people in this position should have enough of a retirement fund that their social security is just a cherry on top. irresonsibility is costly. The fact that she has to spend the vast majority of her income on healthcare is due to lack of planning? We don't need to get into slippery slope arguments when the vast majority of the world thinks that healthcare should be free. And yes, those things should be provided to all those who are truly needy. Humans should have what they need to be happy and not on the verge of death or exposure. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:885685634] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue.</quote> should food be free? and water? shelter? her lack of planning is the biggest reason to blame. people in this position should have enough of a retirement fund that their social security is just a cherry on top. irresonsibility is costly.</quote> The fact that she has to spend the vast majority of her income on healthcare is due to lack of planning? We don't need to get into slippery slope arguments when the vast majority of the world thinks that healthcare should be free. And yes, those things should be provided to all those who are truly needy. Humans should have what they need to be happy and not on the verge of death or exposure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/29/17 9:09:15 PM #47:	legendary_zell posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... legendary_zell posted... Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue. should food be free? and water? shelter? her lack of planning is the biggest reason to blame. people in this position should have enough of a retirement fund that their social security is just a cherry on top. irresonsibility is costly. The fact that she has to spend the vast majority of her income on healthcare is due to lack of planning? We don't need to get into slippery slope arguments when the vast majority of the world thinks that healthcare should be free. And yes, those things should be provided to all those who are truly needy. Humans should have what they need to be happy and not on the verge of death or exposure. trying to leverage "the vast majority of the world" is an ad populum fallacy. it doesn't really matter what the vast majority of the world thinks. especially considering that the vast majority of the world still holds on to barbaric beliefs like circumcision and stoning people for being gay. and saying that humans "should" have what they need to be happy is also not an argument. that's all fine and dandy in a wishy washy fairy tale world, but we live in the real world where resources are finite and where people need to be responsible for their retirement. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885686785] in Woman eats... [t:75719779]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people deflecting to her supposed lack of planning or the facilities bills? The problem is the fact that she has bills for keeping her husband alive in the first place when in a lot of places, she wouldn't and this would not be an issue.</quote> should food be free? and water? shelter? her lack of planning is the biggest reason to blame. people in this position should have enough of a retirement fund that their social security is just a cherry on top. irresonsibility is costly.</quote> The fact that she has to spend the vast majority of her income on healthcare is due to lack of planning? We don't need to get into slippery slope arguments when the vast majority of the world thinks that healthcare should be free. And yes, those things should be provided to all those who are truly needy. Humans should have what they need to be happy and not on the verge of death or exposure.</quote> trying to leverage "the vast majority of the world" is an ad populum fallacy. it doesn't really matter what the vast majority of the world thinks. especially considering that the vast majority of the world still holds on to barbaric beliefs like circumcision and stoning people for being gay. and saying that humans "should" have what they need to be happy is also not an argument. that's all fine and dandy in a wishy washy fairy tale world, but we live in the real world where resources are finite and where people need to be responsible for their retirement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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