Lurker > averagejoel

religion it the opiate of the masses

and opiates do have legitimate medical uses

but it often gets pushed on people, so they react

that being said, don't particularly care if someone is atheist, but Richard Dawkins-style atheism should just fucking die

but yes, it seems that anti-theism is on the rise
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the second one just kinda looks like night time. the first one is much more eerie
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mario clearly waxes his entire body from the mustache down
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

Funkydog posted...

27_Sandman_40 posted...

Palestine doesn't exist, though.

Regardless of your stance on that, the people who exist under the thought of being Palestinian do and suffer a lot from Israel's actions.

I'm sure the Vikings, Huns, and Goths felt the same way.

what does that have to do with anything?
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

Palestine doesn't exist, though.

yes it does
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

averagejoel posted...

27_Sandman_40 posted...

no, i'm talking about you. jews have been persecuted for literal millenia and you're just adding to their bullshit when you enable comments like that to be normal

fucking pisses me off

being anti-Israel is not the same thing as being antisemitic

do explain the difference to me, because it sounds like youre defending a bunch of barbarians taking over law-sanctioned jewish land because "the jews don't belong"

as a concept, Israel does have a right to exist, and a Jewish state likely would have prevented a lot of death from the Holocaust.

but there were already people living in Palestine, and many of those people are now treated as second-class citizens. the state of Israel, with the way it's currently being run, is very similar to Apartheid South Africa, and is unquestionably a human rights violation.

it's not "the jews don't belong" - moreso "this state is oppressive toward the Palestinian people"
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

no, i'm talking about you. jews have been persecuted for literal millenia and you're just adding to their bullshit when you enable comments like that to be normal

fucking pisses me off

being anti-Israel is not the same thing as being antisemitic
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

averagejoel posted...

formation of Israel was bad

found the nazi

you mean Admiral? possibly. I don't know

Kineth posted...

That moment when Admiral is defending the plight of a minority group.

it's like when all those politicians suddenly became "Pro-LGBT" after the gay bar was shot up by the brown-skinned dude
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

The Admiral posted...

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

The Admiral posted...

averagejoel posted...

formation of Israel was bad

Wow. Must be the soft bigotry of low expectations that keeps stupidity like this from resulting in warnings.

Cry more dude. If youve got an argument, make it, dont just bawl over someones opinion. Im Jewish, and there are plenty of arguments to be made as to why the formation of Israel has had a negative impact.

Must be failing soft brain tissue that keeps stupidity like this from going away.

LOL. Yeah, you're definitely Jewish all right. Very believable.

You know someones got a strong argument when this is their response. How about you learn a little about the subject before you get mad and stupid in public? Do you.....know where/what Israel is? Or are you just an "IT JEW THING SO IT GOOD, NOT LIKE ISRAEL MEAN NOT LIKE JEWS" type?

Grow up and call your mom in to change your diaper.

um yeah, actually apartheid is extremely good
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in my top 10 list of "least necessary sequels", Christianity and Islam jointly share number 2, with number 1 being, of course, Fuller House
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the only actual positive thing that you listed is scientific advancement

formation of Israel was bad
the others are arguable
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COVxy posted...

Pretty useful word, tbh.

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I'd be more interested in seeing Obi-Wan before the clone wars

like his relationship with Satine
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Veggeta X posted...

Medussa posted...

what is this, bizarroFAQS? this almost never gets modded, and never harshly.

if you actually manage to get modded for something transphobic here, congrats. it takes some serious effort.

I'm speaking from experience.

there are people who use literal slurs on here and don't get modded, so whatever you were saying was probably pretty fucking bad
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...

...That's... that's a lot of units. The Neph, Lethe and Haar can only carry so hard.

it's possible - and not even difficult - to kill Ludveck in 1 turn with Elincia

though you miss out on a lot of EXP and items if you do that

2-E is one of my favourite chapters in the game though.

but yeah, make sure you block off those choke points with units as quickly as possible. then at the south-west one, it's super easy to have people picking off the enemies from above - once the main area at the top is cleared out, I usually have Brom at the top of those stairs and Nephenee and Calill doing potshots along the side, with Nealuchi nearby getting in the occasional attack
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steam
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VandorLee posted...

averagejoel posted...

VandorLee posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

VandorLee posted...

averagejoel posted...

VandorLee posted...

I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.

you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right

Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison.....

You can't claim ignorance if someone just told you your 'hypothetical' conditional isn't actually hypothetical. The N-word and its trauma is very much an American experience. By comparison, Jewish people are subject to several of racially targeted slurs and insults in the US and all across Western Europe.

So people shouldnt be free to use these words right?

no one is saying that

but they should be aware that there are consequences for using them

Your free but theres consequences? Sounds like laws....

there are 0 consequences from the government for using the n word.
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VandorLee posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

VandorLee posted...

averagejoel posted...

VandorLee posted...

I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.

you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right

Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison.....

You can't claim ignorance if someone just told you your 'hypothetical' conditional isn't actually hypothetical. The N-word and its trauma is very much an American experience. By comparison, Jewish people are subject to several of racially targeted slurs and insults in the US and all across Western Europe.

So people shouldnt be free to use these words right?

no one is saying that

but they should be aware that there are consequences for using them
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VandorLee posted...

averagejoel posted...

VandorLee posted...

I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.

you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right

Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison.....

actually you're both, but that's a separate conversation
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VandorLee posted...

I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.

you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right
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GiftedACIII posted...

averagejoel posted...

Rexbolt is fun, but yeah, Thunder is just so fucking bad

that being said, I once tried to see if I could break Ragnell with Corrosion in 3-13. to do this, I had to give the scroll to Keiran in one of the Crimea chapters in part 3 and have Sothe steal it from him in the Dawn Brigade chapter where you face off against the Crimea Royal Knights

and that's not even counting the actual fight against Ike

it was a bad decision

Um, that weapon has no number to even corrode. Why would you think that would work?

because it's also possible to corrode the spirit weapons in Endgame
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Rexbolt is fun, but yeah, Thunder is just so fucking bad

that being said, I once tried to see if I could break Ragnell with Corrosion in 3-13. to do this, I had to give the scroll to Keiran in one of the Crimea chapters in part 3 and have Sothe steal it from him in the Dawn Brigade chapter where you face off against the Crimea Royal Knights

and that's not even counting the actual fight against Ike

it was a bad decision
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Wtf is with all the cotton candy?

part of the joke is that horses can't actually vomit

it also gets brought up briefly in Season 4
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tote_all posted...

You're pretty sure how I got that.

Why is your posting style inherently dishonest?

because it's not

point out 1 instance in this topic where I implied that
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probably Beyonce
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tote_all posted...

averagejoel posted...

tote_all posted...

Just hoping it wouldn't be brought up?

... no. it's just kinda irrelevant to the actual topic

Violence and human rights violations are only relevant if done by the Right, not the Left?

I never suggested this in any way, and I'm not sure how you got this out of anything that I posted
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

The Admiral posted...

Indeed, never forget to celebrate the heroic men and women who stopped the plague of socialism from spreading beyond the countries it destroyed.

So screwing with other countries is fine so long as it stops the "plague" of socialism?

wow you're very dishonest. TC's first link explains how that politician was active for over forty years.

Taken from the wikipedia page:

"Allende's involvement in Chilean political life spanned a period of nearly forty years. As a member of the Socialist Party, he was a senator, deputy and cabinet minister. He unsuccessfully ran for the presidency in the 1952, 1958, and 1964 elections. In 1970, he won the presidency in a close three-way race. He was elected in a run-off by Congress as no candidate had gained a majority.

As president, Allende adopted a policy of nationalization of industries and collectivisation; due to these and other factors, increasingly strained relations between him and the legislative and judicial branches of the Chilean government culminated in a declaration by Congress of a "constitutional breakdown". A centre-right majority including the Christian Democrats, whose support had enabled Allende's election, denounced his rule as unconstitutional and called for his overthrow by force."

as you can see the country was falling apart because of its own internal politics

yawn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Chile#1950s_and_1960s
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tote_all posted...

Just hoping it wouldn't be brought up?

... no. it's just kinda irrelevant to the actual topic
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tote_all posted...

averagejoel posted...

then I don't know what you were attempting to do in this topic aside from derailing. I'm sure most people on CE have no idea about any of this

Showing the other side you were desperately trying to hide?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Left_Movement_(Chile)

I wasn't trying to hide anything though
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

he has no other sources lmao

yes i do

tote_all posted...

Then why did you refer me to post 5? Are you not understanding that there's nothing you can teach about this to an educated citizen of a country that is still not over this?

then I don't know what you were attempting to do in this topic aside from derailing. I'm sure most people on CE have no idea about any of this
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tote_all posted...

averagejoel posted...

tote_all posted...

There's no Wikipedia link with new information for me about this?

please refer to post #5

Did you really take my mockery of you citing Wikipedia so much as me literally having problems with Wikipedia?

no
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tote_all posted...

Not only that, but also guess what the "all" in my username stands for.

ok? I was talking about US intervention. what they did was awful regardless of the conditions in Chile, which are secondary, at most, in this topic
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tote_all posted...

There's no Wikipedia link with new information for me about this?

please refer to post #5
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tote_all posted...

You do realize I'm from Chile, yes?

so were the Chicago boys. what's your point
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tote_all posted...

seriously just read this whole page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Chile
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tote_all posted...

averagejoel posted...

tote_all posted...

Why are you not talking about the country's condition during Allende's "democratically elected government"?

please refer to post #2

You mean the post where you do not talk about Chile's condition at all, but vaguely blame the US for everything?

fine, if you insist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende#Presidency

In November 1970, 3,000 scholarships were allocated to Mapuche children in an effort to integrate the Indian minority into the educational system, payment of pensions and grants was resumed, an emergency plan providing for the construction of 120,000 residential buildings was launched, all part-time workers were granted rights to social security, a proposed electricity price increase was withdrawn, diplomatic relations were restored with Cuba, and political prisoners were granted an amnesty. In December that same year, bread prices were fixed, 55,000 volunteers were sent to the south of the country to teach writing and reading skills and provide medical attention to a sector of the population that had previously been ignored, a central commission was established to oversee a tri-partite payment plan in which equal place was given to government, employees and employers, and a protocol agreement was signed with the United Centre of Workers which granted workers representational rights on the funding board of the Social Planning Ministry.[34] An obligatory minimum wage for workers of all ages (including apprentices) was established,[35] free milk was introduced for expectant and nursing mothers and for children between the ages of 7 and 14,[36] free school meals were established,[37] rent reductions were carried out, and the construction of the Santiago subway was rescheduled so as to serve working-class neighbourhoods first. Workers benefited from increases in social security payments, an expanded public works program, and a modification of the wage and salary adjustment mechanism (which had originally been introduced in the Forties to cope with the country’s permanent inflation), while middle-class Chileans benefited from the elimination of taxes on modest incomes and property.[38] In addition, state-sponsored programs distributed free food to the country’s neediest citizens,[39] and in the countryside, peasant councils were established to mobilise agrarian workers and small proprietors. In the government’s first budget (presented to the Chilean congress in November 1970), the minimum taxable income level was raised, removing from the tax pool 35% of those who had paid taxes on earnings in the previous year. In addition, the exemption from general taxation was raised to a level equivalent to twice the minimum wage. Exemptions from capital taxes were also extended, which benefitted 330,000 small proprietors. The extra increases that Frei promised to the armed forces were also fully paid. According to one estimate, purchasing power went up by 28% between October 1970 and July 1971.

he was elected in November 1970
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tote_all posted...

Why are you not talking about the country's condition during Allende's "democratically elected government"?

please refer to post #2
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Kissinger's policy of intervention was perfected in Chile, but it was extended to many other countries, including Afghanistan.

in the 90s, the US praised Bin Laden for being "an anti-soviet warrior"

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/560239497552879616

further reading:

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/17/we_created_islamic_extremism_those_blaming_islam_for_isis_would_have_supported_osama_bin_laden_in_the_80s/
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one of the main propagators of these human rights violations is Henry Kissinger, Nixon's Secretary of State

Kissinger has bipartisan support

he won the Nobel Peace Prize 3 months after overthrowing Chile's democratically elected government

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger#Foreign_policy
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Pinochet was so confident in US support that he assassinated a dissenter on US soil

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/21/the-assassination-of-orlando-letelier-and-the-politics-of-silence/

the Chilean agents followed Letelier as he drove himself into Washington, down Massachusetts to the think tank where he worked. The bomb went off as Letelier went around Sheridan Circle, ripping off most of the lower half of his body. He died shortly afterward, as did Ronni Moffitt, a 25-year-old American who’d been in the car with him. A second passenger, Moffitt’s husband Michael, survived.

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After Pinochet seized power, he brought in the "Chicago Boys" - Chilean neoliberal economists, educated in Chicago. they were heavily supported by the US, like Pinochet. and they were monsters, like Pinochet.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-united-states-didnt-just-help-topple-allende-we-trained-the-economists-too/

Sergio de Castro is among the vilest of the “Chicago Boys,” Chilean economists who studied at the University of Chicago under Milton Friedman and Arnold Harberger and who, after the September 11, 1973, coup, helped impose on their fellow citizens a punishing program of extreme economic austerity. In the film, de Castro recalls climbing a hill in Santiago so he could watch the Air Force bomb La Moneda, the presidential palace where Salvador Allende was soon to die. As flames poured out of the palace’s windows, he felt, he says, an “infinite happiness.” De Castro says he “didn’t know anyone who had been killed” by his government, even though representatives from the World Bank, the IMF, and the US State Department kept complaining about the repression. Asked by Carola Fuentes if he ever brought up those complaints with Pinochet, he said no. De Castro says he feels great “pain,” not just for the “tortured but the torturers” but that, knowing what he knows now–that thousands were killed or disappeared and tens of thousands tortured during his tenure–he still would have served Pinochet. “There aren’t any corrective measures that are painless,” de Castro says."

The exchange program that brought the Chileans to Chicago was funded by public money, from the US government’s Point Four foreign-aid program.

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the government was overthrown because it threatened American business interests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Chile#Allende_Presidency

Immediately after the Allende government came into office, the U.S. sought to place pressure on the Allende government to prevent its consolidation and limit its ability to implement policies contrary to U.S. and hemispheric interests, such as Allende's total nationalization of several U.S. corporations and the copper industry. Nixon directed that no new bilateral economic aid commitments be undertaken with the government of Chile.

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the US overthrew Salvador Allende, a democratically elected socialist in Chile, and replaced him with Augusto Pinochet, a brutal dictator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_violations_in_Pinochet%27s_Chile

The most prevalent forms of state-sponsored torture that Chilean prisoners endured were electric shocks, waterboarding, beatings, and sexual abuse. Another common mechanism of torture employed was "disappearing" those who were deemed to be potentially subversive because they adhered to leftist political doctrines. The tactic of "disappearing" the enemies of the Pinochet regime was systematically carried out during the first four years of military rule. The "disappeared" were held in secret, subjected to torture and were often never seen again. Both the National Commission on Political Imprisonment and Torture (Valech Report) and the Commission of Truth and Reconciliation (Rettig Report) approximate that there were around 30,000 victims of human rights abuses in Chile, with 27,255 tortured and 2,279 executed.

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Kineth posted...

Some people here would have you believe that every white person is Irish.

and that every irish person is white
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there's no such thing as "white heritage" because whiteness isn't a real thing. it's an identity constructed to make american immigrants - whether Italian, Irish, Ukrainian, French, etc. - believe they were all the same

"white" people have never faced discrimination for being white
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Dustin1280 posted...

This is the only thing I will post on this matter. That and if you actually believe it's not possible for a person who is non-white to be racist you are one of the dumbest people out there, even acknowledging you is a waste of time.

Merriam
1. a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2.
a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b: a political or social system founded on racism

3. racial prejudice or discrimination

Cambridge:
racist
noun [ C ]
a person who believes that some races are better than others, or who acts unfairly to someone because of his or her race

Oxford:
racist
NOUN
A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

ADJECTIVE
Showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.

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BlackHorse6969 posted...

AliceofInsanity posted...

They literally can't though since racism comes from a place of systemic power and blacks have never been in that position in America.

bs. no power? how about martin luther king. black panthers. muhammad ali. OBAMA

lol
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