Current Events > I feel the N word is a massive disappointment and failure of freedom of speech.

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VandorLee 09/12/17 4:36:38 PM #1:	Years ago I honestly thought the sensitivity of the word and the hypocritical nature of who can and cant say it would pass by. I know now its insanely naive to think that but I thought both offensive and "non-offensive" uses of the word would die down and would just be a moderately offensive slur but no one would freak out about anyone using it. Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story and people are sending videos to my boss demanding my job and questioning the company that hired me if they stand behind me yet for some reason still saying theyre not trying to take away freedom of speech. Not to mention this is just because people get so angry and offended at any white person saying the word. Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone that would get super offended at me saying the word which is ironic because i hardly say it but should a song or news story come up using the word im going to freely say it accurately as the song or news story did or if were simply talking about how we feel about the N word seeing as its literally a daily occurrence that something comes up involving this word. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886479915] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Years ago I honestly thought the sensitivity of the word and the hypocritical nature of who can and cant say it would pass by. I know now its insanely naive to think that but I thought both offensive and "non-offensive" uses of the word would die down and would just be a moderately offensive slur but no one would freak out about anyone using it. Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story and people are sending videos to my boss demanding my job and questioning the company that hired me if they stand behind me yet for some reason still saying theyre not trying to take away freedom of speech. Not to mention this is just because people get so angry and offended at any white person saying the word. Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone that would get super offended at me saying the word which is ironic because i hardly say it but should a song or news story come up using the word im going to freely say it accurately as the song or news story did or if were simply talking about how we feel about the N word seeing as its literally a daily occurrence that something comes up involving this word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImJeff 09/12/17 4:37:28 PM #2:	i predicted this --- http://i.imgur.com/fkUUcCM.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Zes4fKu.jpg <cite>ImJeff posted [p:886479973] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>i predicted this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OrtegaTron 09/12/17 4:40:34 PM #4:	Weak bait --- OrtegaTron knelt before his fallen enemy and said a prayer. "Forgive me. May you find in the next world what you couldn't find here."- AlisLandale <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:886480153] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Weak bait</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:41:03 PM #5:	shockthemonkey posted... You seem like a weird person. Im simply for freedom of speech. People say offensive stuff in general and even to me all the time yet im not trying to restrict their freedom of speech by saying im offended therefore they cannot say what they said or owe me an apology. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480182] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>You seem like a weird person.</quote> Im simply for freedom of speech. People say offensive stuff in general and even to me all the time yet im not trying to restrict their freedom of speech by saying im offended therefore they cannot say what they said or owe me an apology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:41:49 PM #6:	OrtegaTron posted... Weak bait Its almost like its not bait at all and simply an opinion. I could easily bait anyone on anything practically and have so many times so, thats not an issue. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480236] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>OrtegaTron posted...</cite> <quote>Weak bait</quote> Its almost like its not bait at all and simply an opinion. I could easily bait anyone on anything practically and have so many times so, thats not an issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 09/12/17 4:42:53 PM #7:	Troll topic --- Organized people are just too lazy to look for things. <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:886480291] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Troll topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 09/12/17 4:43:22 PM #9:	VandorLee posted... Im simply for freedom of speech. Then surely you are for the freedom of people to harshly criticize those who toss around racial slurs. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:886480318] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Im simply for freedom of speech. </quote> Then surely you are for the freedom of people to harshly criticize those who toss around racial slurs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 09/12/17 4:43:44 PM #10:	is anyone restricted from using the n-word? --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:886480333] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 09/12/17 4:44:00 PM #11:	It's a racist word that's been used to dehumanize African Americans for decades, including during the darkest days of the Klan -- why would you want to use it? <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:886480344] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>It's a racist word that's been used to dehumanize African Americans for decades, including during the darkest days of the Klan -- why would you want to use it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 09/12/17 4:44:06 PM #12:	how is this a failure of freedom of speech. you can say any racial slur you want to. Doesn't mean you're entitled to not have people think your an asshole --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:886480351] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>how is this a failure of freedom of speech. you can say any racial slur you want to. Doesn't mean you're entitled to not have people think your an asshole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:44:11 PM #13:	Antifar posted... VandorLee posted... Im simply for freedom of speech. Then surely you are for the freedom of people to harshly criticize those who toss around racial slurs. Thats literally part of freedom of speech so, yeah... --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480360] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Im simply for freedom of speech. </quote> Then surely you are for the freedom of people to harshly criticize those who toss around racial slurs.</quote> Thats literally part of freedom of speech so, yeah...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:46:00 PM #14:	Glass_Phantom posted... It's a racist word that's been used to dehumanize African Americans for decades, including during the darkest days of the Klan -- why would you want to use it? So? Should we eliminate freedom of speech so no one is ever offended by this horrible word? You have to pick one or the other. Just be honest and say your for taking away the freedom to say the word. Yeah, offensive words are part of freedom of speech. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480471] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>It's a racist word that's been used to dehumanize African Americans for decades, including during the darkest days of the Klan -- why would you want to use it?</quote> So? Should we eliminate freedom of speech so no one is ever offended by this horrible word? You have to pick one or the other. Just be honest and say your for taking away the freedom to say the word. Yeah, offensive words are part of freedom of speech.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/12/17 4:46:21 PM #15:	It's not just any swear word. It refers to a specific group of people, and many of the power dynamics that made it so toxic for the past century are still in play. And TC is disappointed? Queen, I'm disappointed. And tired. And alternatively apathetic, furious, defeated, and occasionally optimistic. More than all of that though, I'm tired of white people framing this as some kind of loss. Acting like they're victims because they don't have social access to this specific collection of cultural experiences, when the truth is they've neither earned nor paid for that access. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886480491] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>It's not just any swear word. It refers to a specific group of people, and many of the power dynamics that made it so toxic for the past century are still in play. And TC is disappointed? Queen, I'm disappointed. And tired. And alternatively apathetic, furious, defeated, and occasionally optimistic. More than all of that though, I'm tired of white people framing this as some kind of loss. Acting like they're victims because they don't have social access to this specific collection of cultural experiences, when the truth is they've neither earned nor paid for that access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/12/17 4:46:43 PM #16:	soon the c word will be as sacred to women said by them to each other no male may say in any context or face wrath justified by other women and white knights --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886480513] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>soon the c word will be as sacred to women said by them to each other no male may say in any context or face wrath justified by other women and white knights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShinobiNinjaX 09/12/17 4:46:46 PM #17:	boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? --- Ninja Art: Post Message Jutsu!! <cite>ShinobiNinjaX posted [p:886480514] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darker Cheshire 09/12/17 4:47:48 PM #18:	Who is eliminating free speech? Has there been threat of arrest by the government? Or just other people practicing their freedom of speech to call people who want to be ignorantly offensive for the sake of it as assholes? --- The only laws of matter are those which our mind must fabricate, And the only laws of mind are fabricated by matter. <cite>Darker Cheshire posted [p:886480568] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Who is eliminating free speech? Has there been threat of arrest by the government? Or just other people practicing their freedom of speech to call people who want to be ignorantly offensive for the sake of it as assholes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/12/17 4:48:26 PM #19:	VandorLee posted... Antifar posted... VandorLee posted... Im simply for freedom of speech. Then surely you are for the freedom of people to harshly criticize those who toss around racial slurs. Thats literally part of freedom of speech so, yeah... So what are you crying for? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886480601] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote> Im simply for freedom of speech. </quote> Then surely you are for the freedom of people to harshly criticize those who toss around racial slurs.</quote> Thats literally part of freedom of speech so, yeah...</quote> So what are you crying for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 09/12/17 4:48:28 PM #20:	VandorLee posted... Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story You're not important enough to do a news story about. VandorLee posted... Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone You could have stopped here. Because this is likely your life. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:886480607] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story</quote> You're not important enough to do a news story about. <cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone</quote> You could have stopped here. Because this is likely your life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:48:37 PM #21:	darkphoenix181 posted... soon the c word will be as sacred to women said by them to each other no male may say in any context or face wrath I agree. This isnt the only offensive word. And why should other offensive words be treated differently? Why should we be freely able to say these words. "Yeah, you can say it but i just think you should be fired and essentially unhireable for it." --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480616] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>soon the c word will be as sacred to women said by them to each other no male may say in any context or face wrath</quote> I agree. This isnt the only offensive word. And why should other offensive words be treated differently? Why should we be freely able to say these words. "Yeah, you can say it but i just think you should be fired and essentially unhireable for it."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 09/12/17 4:49:11 PM #22:	VandorLee posted... Glass_Phantom posted... It's a racist word that's been used to dehumanize African Americans for decades, including during the darkest days of the Klan -- why would you want to use it? So? Should we eliminate freedom of speech so no one is ever offended by this horrible word? You have to pick one or the other. Just be honest and say your for taking away the freedom to say the word. Yeah, offensive words are part of freedom of speech. yeah, you're allowed to say the word, that's your right its also everyone elses right to blast you for being a piece of shit racist. "muh freeze peach" protects you from the government. not anyone else. i get it, you're a pasty white NEET that wants to say the word so badly for some reason. so go ahead, say it to all of the black people you want, see where it gets you dude. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:886480647] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>It's a racist word that's been used to dehumanize African Americans for decades, including during the darkest days of the Klan -- why would you want to use it?</quote> So? Should we eliminate freedom of speech so no one is ever offended by this horrible word? You have to pick one or the other. Just be honest and say your for taking away the freedom to say the word. Yeah, offensive words are part of freedom of speech.</quote> yeah, you're allowed to say the word, that's your right its also everyone elses right to blast you for being a piece of shit racist. "muh freeze peach" protects you from the government. not anyone else. i get it, you're a pasty white NEET that wants to say the word so badly for some reason. so go ahead, say it to all of the black people you want, see where it gets you dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/12/17 4:49:21 PM #23:	@ShinobiNinjaX posted... boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886480659] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>@ShinobiNinjaX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this?</quote> if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 09/12/17 4:50:49 PM #24:	I think the n-word is completely overplayed and considered far worse then it actually is. That said, there is absolutely no conversation I could possibly have where that would be a word that applies in any way to the conversation. So I literally have no reason to ever use it. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:886480748] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>I think the n-word is completely overplayed and considered far worse then it actually is. That said, there is absolutely no conversation I could possibly have where that would be a word that applies in any way to the conversation. So I literally have no reason to ever use it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:51:03 PM #25:	That_Happened posted... VandorLee posted... Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story You're not important enough to do a news story about. VandorLee posted... Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone You could have stopped here. Because this is likely your life. Yeah, man, im just the worst ugly stupid person ever with no friends or anything and fail at everything. I dont see the relevancy to the topic but yeah, I just suck at everything. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480758] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story</quote> You're not important enough to do a news story about. <cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone</quote> You could have stopped here. Because this is likely your life.</quote> Yeah, man, im just the worst ugly stupid person ever with no friends or anything and fail at everything. I dont see the relevancy to the topic but yeah, I just suck at everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 09/12/17 4:52:16 PM #26:	Don't forget guys, TC is the person that trolled Harpie hardcore when she made a topic about her mom dying --- Organized people are just too lazy to look for things. <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:886480823] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Don't forget guys, TC is the person that trolled Harpie hardcore when she made a topic about her mom dying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 09/12/17 4:52:55 PM #27:	darkphoenix181 posted... @ShinobiNinjaX posted... boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:886480868] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ShinobiNinjaX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this?</quote> if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly</quote> of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:53:10 PM #28:	I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480885] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 09/12/17 4:53:40 PM #29:	VandorLee posted... i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade you shouldn't do that tho. just don't do things that make you a shitty person. Guess what, you can say the n-word. Nobody's stopping you. You won't be arrested for it. you just don't do it because it's a bad thing to do. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:886480910] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote> i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade</quote> you shouldn't do that tho. just don't do things that make you a shitty person. Guess what, you can say the n-word. Nobody's stopping you. You won't be arrested for it. you just don't do it because it's a bad thing to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:54:03 PM #30:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Don't forget guys, TC is the person that trolled Harpie hardcore when she made a topic about her mom dying Am I famous? --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886480935] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't forget guys, TC is the person that trolled Harpie hardcore when she made a topic about her mom dying</quote> Am I famous?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/12/17 4:54:19 PM #31:	metralo posted... its also everyone elses right to blast you for being a piece of s* racist. and everyone else can laugh at the stupid take ownership foolery when an ignorant black person uses the word --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:886480952] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>its also everyone elses right to blast you for being a piece of s* racist. </quote> and everyone else can laugh at the stupid take ownership foolery when an ignorant black person uses the word</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 09/12/17 4:54:52 PM #32:	VandorLee posted... I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews. this is a poor analogy. you wouldn't be seen as hating Jewish people for saying "Hitler", but you likely would for using the k-word --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:886480990] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.</quote> this is a poor analogy. you wouldn't be seen as hating Jewish people for saying "Hitler", but you likely would for using the k-word</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 09/12/17 4:55:29 PM #33:	Actually I agree that the idea of words that certain races can and can't say is a stupid socially concept. But it's the response to racisim and race, which without a doubt the dumbest social concept human kind has ever came up with. The truth is social norms and morality are based in logic and they shouldn't be Race is a concept that exist and with it comes cultures unique to it, and with that comes things that have value and meaning only to that culture. Use of the N word as something other than a racial slur is apart of that. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:886481024] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Actually I agree that the idea of words that certain races can and can't say is a stupid socially concept. But it's the response to racisim and race, which without a doubt the dumbest social concept human kind has ever came up with. The truth is social norms and morality are based in logic and they shouldn't be Race is a concept that exist and with it comes cultures unique to it, and with that comes things that have value and meaning only to that culture. Use of the N word as something other than a racial slur is apart of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/12/17 4:55:35 PM #34:	darkphoenix181 posted... @ShinobiNinjaX posted... boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly Yes. Those are fighting words. It's contextual, but definitely. Racially targeted, connected with a long documented history of racial violence, by its nature it dehumanizes and insults the recipient. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886481031] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ShinobiNinjaX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this?</quote> if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly</quote> Yes. Those are fighting words. It's contextual, but definitely. Racially targeted, connected with a long documented history of racial violence, by its nature it dehumanizes and insults the recipient.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/12/17 4:56:09 PM #35:	ModLogic posted... metralo posted... its also everyone elses right to blast you for being a piece of s* racist. and everyone else can laugh at the stupid take ownership foolery when an ignorant black person uses the word They'll laugh while at the same time cry that nobody respects them for using racial slurs. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886481071] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote> its also everyone elses right to blast you for being a piece of s* racist. </quote> and everyone else can laugh at the stupid take ownership foolery when an ignorant black person uses the word</quote> They'll laugh while at the same time cry that nobody respects them for using racial slurs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 09/12/17 4:56:43 PM #36:	VandorLee posted... Yeah, man, im just the worst ugly stupid person ever with no friends or anything and fail at everything. I dont see the relevancy to the topic but yeah, I just suck at everything. The relevancy to the topic is, you aren't ever leaving the house so you're fine. You can swear as much as you want in the privacy of your bedroom. Even if you streamed it, no one would watch your channel in the first place. You're all set to use any slur you want. You're free! --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:886481105] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, man, im just the worst ugly stupid person ever with no friends or anything and fail at everything. I dont see the relevancy to the topic but yeah, I just suck at everything.</quote> The relevancy to the topic is, you aren't ever leaving the house so you're fine. You can swear as much as you want in the privacy of your bedroom. Even if you streamed it, no one would watch your channel in the first place. You're all set to use any slur you want. You're free!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/12/17 4:56:51 PM #37:	VandorLee posted... I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews. you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:886481111] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.</quote> you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:58:42 PM #38:	Yeah and if really anyone is so sensitive about a certain race even saying the word I wouldnt hang out with them. They are saying because they are a certain race and i am of another race and history that they would be "triggered" at me even saying the word. Cool, were not hanging out though. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886481224] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>Yeah and if really anyone is so sensitive about a certain race even saying the word I wouldnt hang out with them. They are saying because they are a certain race and i am of another race and history that they would be "triggered" at me even saying the word. Cool, were not hanging out though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/12/17 4:58:54 PM #39:	boxington posted... darkphoenix181 posted... @ShinobiNinjaX posted... boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though because this has occurred in real life on many occasions and the assaulter was indeed justified by the general public say the n word, get beat that isn't freedom of speech so why pretend like people are free to say it? that is disingenuous and will trick week minded people into getting into a bad situation where they get beat up by behaviour society condones and even sometimes demands --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886481240] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ShinobiNinjaX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this?</quote> if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly</quote> of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though</quote> because this has occurred in real life on many occasions and the assaulter was indeed justified by the general public say the n word, get beat that isn't freedom of speech so why pretend like people are free to say it? that is disingenuous and will trick week minded people into getting into a bad situation where they get beat up by behaviour society condones and even sometimes demands</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 4:59:33 PM #40:	averagejoel posted... VandorLee posted... I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews. you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison..... --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886481272] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.</quote> you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right</quote> Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/12/17 5:00:39 PM #41:	darkphoenix181 posted... boxington posted... darkphoenix181 posted... @ShinobiNinjaX posted... boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though because this has occurred in real life on many occasions and the assaulter was indeed justified say the n word, get beat that isn't freedom of speech so why pretend like people are free to say it? that is disingenuous and will trick week minded people into getting into a bad situation where they get beat up by behaviour society condones and even sometimes demands You're free to speak and others are free to react. You have to be mental to set out and deliberately attempt to offend someone and then get shocked at what happens once you succeed. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886481331] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>@ShinobiNinjaX posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote> is anyone restricted from using the n-word? </quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? </quote> if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly </quote> of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though</quote> because this has occurred in real life on many occasions and the assaulter was indeed justified say the n word, get beat that isn't freedom of speech so why pretend like people are free to say it? that is disingenuous and will trick week minded people into getting into a bad situation where they get beat up by behaviour society condones and even sometimes demands</quote> You're free to speak and others are free to react. You have to be mental to set out and deliberately attempt to offend someone and then get shocked at what happens once you succeed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/12/17 5:00:59 PM #42:	darkphoenix181 posted... the assaulter was indeed justified by the general public imagine actually thinking this --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:886481350] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>the assaulter was indeed justified by the general public</quote> imagine actually thinking this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 5:01:18 PM #43:	So you really want people to be able to freely use a word that you will completely assassinate their character and attempt to get them fired over? Just make it illegal to avoid all this mess. Why do you want freedom of speech in the first place? --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886481368] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>So you really want people to be able to freely use a word that you will completely assassinate their character and attempt to get them fired over? Just make it illegal to avoid all this mess. Why do you want freedom of speech in the first place?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 09/12/17 5:01:55 PM #44:	free speech doesn't mean you can say anything without consequences. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:886481408] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote>free speech doesn't mean you can say anything without consequences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 09/12/17 5:02:14 PM #45:	darkphoenix181 posted... boxington posted... darkphoenix181 posted... @ShinobiNinjaX posted... boxington posted... is anyone restricted from using the n-word? Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this? if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though because this has occurred in real life on many occasions and the assaulter was indeed justified by the general public say the n word, get beat that isn't freedom of speech so why pretend like people are free to say it? that is disingenuous and will trick week minded people into getting into a bad situation where they get beat up by behaviour society condones and even sometimes demands Freedom of speech doesn't free you from social punishments, just legal. But you knew that already --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:886481431] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ShinobiNinjaX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>is anyone restricted from using the n-word?</quote> Everyone is free to say it. Why can't people understand this?</quote> if tc says it and a dude punches him out would you say this fair or the guy punching him committed a crime (assault)? answer honestly</quote> of course it'd be a crime. idk what this scenario has to do with their post, though</quote> because this has occurred in real life on many occasions and the assaulter was indeed justified by the general public say the n word, get beat that isn't freedom of speech so why pretend like people are free to say it? that is disingenuous and will trick week minded people into getting into a bad situation where they get beat up by behaviour society condones and even sometimes demands</quote> Freedom of speech doesn't free you from social punishments, just legal. But you knew that already</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/12/17 5:02:31 PM #46:	KILBOTz posted... free speech doesn't mean you can say anything without consequences. You mean like laws, consequences for doing things? --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:886481450] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>free speech doesn't mean you can say anything without consequences.</quote> You mean like laws, consequences for doing things?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/12/17 5:02:49 PM #47:	VandorLee posted... averagejoel posted... VandorLee posted... I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews. you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison..... You can't claim ignorance if someone just told you your 'hypothetical' conditional isn't actually hypothetical. The N-word and its trauma is very much an American experience. By comparison, Jewish people are subject to several racially targeted slurs and insults in the US and all across Western Europe. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886481466] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>I like how literally saying the word makes you a piece of shit racist. Like if you dont censor yourself you are racist. Thats like saying if you say "Hitler" and not the "H-guy" you hate jews.</quote> you are aware that there's an actual slur that gets used against jews, right</quote> Im racist if i know it or ignorant if i dont. Picking my poison.....</quote> You can't claim ignorance if someone just told you your 'hypothetical' conditional isn't actually hypothetical. The N-word and its trauma is very much an American experience. By comparison, Jewish people are subject to several racially targeted slurs and insults in the US and all across Western Europe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/12/17 5:03:01 PM #48:	VandorLee posted... So you really want people to be able to freely use a word that you will completely assassinate their character and attempt to get them fired over? Just make it illegal to avoid all this mess. Why do you want freedom of speech in the first place? How did you get under the impression that you can't be punished for insulting people? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886481480] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>So you really want people to be able to freely use a word that you will completely assassinate their character and attempt to get them fired over? Just make it illegal to avoid all this mess. Why do you want freedom of speech in the first place?</quote> How did you get under the impression that you can't be punished for insulting people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 09/12/17 5:03:18 PM #49:	VandorLee posted... So you really want people to be able to freely use a word that you will completely assassinate their character and attempt to get them fired over? Just make it illegal to avoid all this mess. Why do you want freedom of speech in the first place? because someone getting mad over the use of a word has nothing to do with freedom of speech, which prevents the government from arresting you for saying it. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:886481497] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>So you really want people to be able to freely use a word that you will completely assassinate their character and attempt to get them fired over? Just make it illegal to avoid all this mess. Why do you want freedom of speech in the first place?</quote> because someone getting mad over the use of a word has nothing to do with freedom of speech, which prevents the government from arresting you for saying it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/12/17 5:03:27 PM #50:	hollow_shrine posted... Yes. Those are fighting words. It's contextual, but definitely. Racially targeted, connected with a long documented history of racial violence, by its nature it dehumanizes and insults the recipient. then you cannot say people are free to say the n word it is by definition not free speech Fighting Words. Words which would likely make the person whom they are addressed commit an act of violence. Fighting words are a category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment it literally is no longer "freedom of speech but not freedom of consequences" it is literally now off-limits via the law @gamepimp12 related to what you said above --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886481506] in I feel the... [t:75767759]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> Yes. Those are fighting words. It's contextual, but definitely. Racially targeted, connected with a long documented history of racial violence, by its nature it dehumanizes and insults the recipient.</quote> then you cannot say people are free to say the n word it is by definition not free speech <quote> Fighting Words. Words which would likely make the person whom they are addressed commit an act of violence. Fighting words are a category of speech that is <cite>unprotected </cite>by the First Amendment</quote> it literally is no longer "freedom of speech but not freedom of consequences" it is literally now off-limits via the law @gamepimp12 related to what you said above</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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