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Funkydog
09/13/17 7:06:26 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Disliking the actions of Israel and believing the Israeli state shouldn't exist are not the same thing.

Ah, that is true, and fair enough. I didn't bother to read back on the discussion, and not sure it is worth doing so knowing CE's style of argument. Apologies anyway.

27_Sandman_40 posted...
Care to list some examples?

One can dislike the way they act towards Palestine for example (and I disagree with what Palestine does just as much mind, they both are in the wrong in how they treat another)
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averagejoel
09/13/17 7:08:37 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
averagejoel posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
no, i'm talking about you. jews have been persecuted for literal millenia and you're just adding to their bullshit when you enable comments like that to be normal

fucking pisses me off

being anti-Israel is not the same thing as being antisemitic


do explain the difference to me, because it sounds like youre defending a bunch of barbarians taking over law-sanctioned jewish land because "the jews don't belong"

as a concept, Israel does have a right to exist, and a Jewish state likely would have prevented a lot of death from the Holocaust.

but there were already people living in Palestine, and many of those people are now treated as second-class citizens. the state of Israel, with the way it's currently being run, is very similar to Apartheid South Africa, and is unquestionably a human rights violation.

it's not "the jews don't belong" - moreso "this state is oppressive toward the Palestinian people"
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averagejoel
09/13/17 7:13:11 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Palestine doesn't exist, though.

yes it does
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Funkydog
09/13/17 7:13:45 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Palestine doesn't exist, though.

Regardless of your stance on that, the people who exist under the thought of being Palestinian do and suffer a lot from Israel's actions.
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averagejoel
09/13/17 7:16:31 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Funkydog posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
Palestine doesn't exist, though.

Regardless of your stance on that, the people who exist under the thought of being Palestinian do and suffer a lot from Israel's actions.


I'm sure the Vikings, Huns, and Goths felt the same way.

what does that have to do with anything?
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Funkydog
09/13/17 7:17:21 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Funkydog posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
Palestine doesn't exist, though.

Regardless of your stance on that, the people who exist under the thought of being Palestinian do and suffer a lot from Israel's actions.


I'm sure the Vikings, Huns, and Goths felt the same way.

We aren't talking about them though.

Both Israel and Palestine are at fault in their issues, you can't just blame one side.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/13/17 7:23:34 PM
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This topic is really opening my eyes as to how many people want to take a stance on something they no absolutely nothing about.

I guess I shouldnt talk, because apparently I dont even know what religion Ive been a part of the last 26 years.
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