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zDonKEY_K0ngz posted...

Butterfiles posted...

When you're reading a post by the Admiral, just remember that he's not like other users. His posts are incredibly artistic, almost to the point where you have to be paying complete attention to them to even remotely understand them. I remember reading to a post on Current Events (though I can't remember what it was), where I thought a post was a complete shitpost initially. Then, I closed my eyes for a second, and all of a sudden the post had an entirely new meaning. It was insane the way The Admiral could just become something so different when you take a look as his posts

Another thing you should note about The Admiral is that it's easy to get a headache reading his posts. Not because they're nonsensical race baiting, but because of how many ideas his posts are riddled with and how complex they are. Soon enough your head will fill to the brim and the rest will just sound like trolling to you. Just close the browser and reread them the next day.

If you don't like his opinions you'll definitely at least enjoy reading through the posts, and picking apart the ideas themselves and all of the intellectual values that go into making it the complexity that it is.

is this a serious post or some sort of copypasta i'm not aware of?

It's an edited version of a copypasta about the band Tool
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SoundNetwork posted...

What if you're a skinny person living in a fat person's body? That's uncontrollable

Different sources have slightly different numbers, but the lowest statistic I've seen says that 40% of transgender people attempt suicide by the time they're 20.

Congratulations on possibly contributing to that
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Bob and Linda Belcher from Bob's Burgers are contenders for the best parents
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well Watto is based on a bunch of Jewish stereotypes
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I just really hate nazis. I don't feel one way or another about the hairy girl really. But given the chance, I'd stick it to nazis if I could. :v They're pure evil.

This is a much more controversial opinion than it should be
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a thought I had the other day:

Horseshoe Theory is actually a pretty good barometer for peoples opinions of Liberals. Liberals are just so self-centered that they think it's the entire worldview
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I've had a lucid dream once or twice

I remember having 360 degree vision. It was kind of amazing
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memes are so good now
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I liked it
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Bernie Sanders isn't a Liberal
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lol

Beiber is nowhere near MJ
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tremain07 posted...

Because liberals are constantly being worse? Everybody knows how dirty Trump is so people are used to it, yet liberals continue being shit and as such we're getting a full 8 years of Trump taking a massive shit on the government to line his pockets like every other opportunist corporate vampire. For crying out loud, Liberals have managed to make obviously evil shit like Nazis gain more power because of how shitty they're being.

Yes, liberals are awful, so why not turn to socialism instead?
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any game that doesn't allow you to return to previous areas

The whole Fire Emblem series, for instance
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Nothing long term yet, but that may change
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It's really good

The movie is also really good
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the post did not clarify the poll question. at all.
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Did you find out how they managed to breed squirrels with monkeys?
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kbelfRETURNS posted...

averagejoel posted...

not personally my taste, but you do you

Itennu posted...

cute! i think you would look much cuter in a watercolor yellow though. try it sometime!

also this

I'm really self conscious so it's really hard for me to find clothes I find flattering, plus I don't have a lot of my nice clothes right now haha. But I'll take your suggestion to heart. Where are good places to shop?

Uh

I'm pretty far from a clothing expert, and I'm also not a woman, so I'm literally one of the worst people to be asking about this.
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not personally my taste, but you do you

Itennu posted...

cute! i think you would look much cuter in a watercolor yellow though. try it sometime!

also this
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Cultural Marxism is a real thing.

Tag yourself, I'm "Semitic Stairs"
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No one ever has to worry about the moral high ground when their opponent is a fascist
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

Lonestar2000 posted...

All religion is terrible.

Yes, but some have significantly more issues than others. I would be interested to see people say Scientology and Buddhism are just as problematic.

Religions are not inherently problematic. There are shitty people in all of them - crimes committed by Muslims are just drastically overreported compared to other religions.
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pinky0926 posted...

averagejoel posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Because you were talking about Islam, obviously. Don't deflect - would you go out of your way to punch a Muslim cleric if he said "Homosexuals must be put to death", as so many of them do?

No more than I would a Christian cleric who said the same thing

So would you or would you not? You're still deflecting, as if saying "But Christianity" is at all relevant to the discussion.

Bringing up Islam was also irrelevant to the discussion
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pinky0926 posted...

Because you were talking about Islam, obviously. Don't deflect - would you go out of your way to punch a Muslim cleric if he said "Homosexuals must be put to death", as so many of them do?

No more than I would a Christian cleric who said the same thing
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pinky0926 posted...

The source material is violent as fuck. The teachings given from the religions spiritual leaders around the world is violent as fuck. The actions of its people are violent as fuck. The institutionalised religious law in many of its countries is violent as fuck. And even excluding the violence it very much marginalises so many minority groups and women as a whole.

why are you singling out Islam here? Every single one of those things also applies to Christianity
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pinky0926 posted...

I could agree with you if we were at war with fascism, and if this was an unavoidable conflict that had reached an immovable state of direct violence. Somehow some random guy on the street saying fascist stuff doesn't feel like war.

As I said:

averagejoel posted...

Another good thing about direct physical violence against fascists (for instance, Richard Spencer being punched) is that it forces previously neutral parties to choose sides.

This was done by the anti-slavery side in the Civil War. They would go to "neutral" churches, forcibly interrupt the services, and refuse to allow the sermon to continue until the church had chosen a side

It's only a matter of time



fire810 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Fascism needs to be eradicated, and if it's necessary to dehumanize and kill fascists in order to do so, then so be it.

only the sith deal in absolutes

lol

pinky0926 posted...

Another bad thing about direct physical violence against fascists is it makes martyrs out of them and galvanises their cause.

*sees nazi get punched*
"I support ethnic cleansing now"
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MakoReizei posted...

communism and Islam are also violent ideologies. should we go punching anyone who might be part of them too?

1. "might" implies some doubt. Of course you should make sure that the person is actually fascist before attacking them.

2. Communism and Islam are not inherently violent
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Another good thing about direct physical violence against fascists (for instance, Richard Spencer being punched) is that it forces previously neutral parties to choose sides.

This was done by the anti-slavery side in the Civil War. They would go to "neutral" churches, forcibly interrupt the services, and refuse to allow the sermon to continue until the church had chosen a side
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pinky0926 posted...

averagejoel posted...

Richard Spencer did something violent by being fascist.

I would have loved for him to be killed by that punch.

Fascism needs to be eradicated, and if it's necessary to dehumanize and kill fascists in order to do so, then so be it.

Also, whether or not something is an effective means of self-defense has no bearing on whether or not it actually constitutes self-defense.

The end-game of what you're talking about is literally thought-policing, and you're personally determining which thoughts are executable, on the spot, without-trial offenses. You realise this yes?

I thought we lived in a society with laws and courts and a judicial system that determines the guilt of offenders. Not a society where someone says something and another civilian gets to kill them instantly.

It's not thought-policing. It's the elimination of an inherently violent ideology

Fascism is an exponential social phenomenon. It's completely unremarkable for the first 90% of its existence. Early on, it might have been possible to destroy it without such drastic measures, but once it becomes visible, as it is now, it spreads faster, and peaceful methods are no longer possible
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kewldude475 posted...

Vamp_Aubrey posted...

averagejoel posted...

There's no such thing as racism against white people,

agreed

Well, there is, it just doesn't affect them as negatively on average, for obvious reasons. You can be racist against anyone.

There is prejudice against white people, not racism. In this context though, white people are in a position of privilege. Racism is prejudice + privilege
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MakoReizei posted...

fair enough as long as you believe that should apply to all races when shaming is directed at them

There's no such thing as racism against white people, so anyone who gets riled up over it is a whiny piss baby. On the other hand, there is racism against other races, so fighting against that is good.

This is not a difficult concept

ShroomKingJr posted...

Neo-Nazi gets punched = the internet rejoices.

Dreadlocked terrorist wannabe gets punched = the internet loses it mind.

No double-standard to see here, move along, people.

It's not a double standard, because fascists are significantly worse than antifa
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pinky0926 posted...

ShroomKingJr posted...

Neo-Nazi gets punched = the internet rejoices.

Dreadlocked terrorist wannabe gets punched = the internet loses it mind.

No double-standard to see here, move along, people.

Turns out there's a lot of people who think that the way to combat violent political ideologies is to instigate violence. These people are morons.

Physical violence against fascists is self-defense, not instigation
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this happened
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Capn Circus posted...

I make assumptions about people based on nothing but a stereotype that only exists in my head, and use these stereotypes to attack people opposed to my point of view even when such attacks are completely irrelevant to the conversation

I also try to advocate for free speech without knowing what free speech actually means, and try to bring up this false definition of free speech where it isn't relevant

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EggplantParm posted...

averagejoel posted...

Nomadic View posted...

How is punching someone, who's only threat to you is a vote, a viable argument for self defense? That person is going to vote against the attackers' interests whether or not the victim is assaulted. There is no justification or turning of the tides that a physical assault will bring, short of incapacitating the victim so that victim cannot physically vote, or outright homicide to prevent the vote.

Physical violence is not self defense when the offense is not itself a physical threat.

The ideology itself is inherently violent. Anyone who follows it is an inherent threat by virtue of them following it.

Also (to use an example), punching Richard Spencer was helpful because it forced people to choose sides - either with the fascist, or against him. This strategy was used by the anti-slavery side before the American Civil War - they would go to "neutral" churches, interrupt the services, and refuse to allow the service to continue until they picked a side.

Hate to break it to you but neither you nor these clowns are the freedom fighters you think you are.

I have never claimed to be a freedom fighter
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MakoReizei posted...

averagejoel posted...

MakoReizei posted...

The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word "Nazi" is a German abbreviation for "National Socialist" (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was "The National Socialist German Workers' Party" (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)

Just the name of Hitler's political party should be sufficient to reject the claim that Hitler was "Right wing" but Leftists sometimes retort that the name "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is not informative, in that it is the name of a dismal Stalinist tyranny. But "People's Republic" is a normal name for a Communist country whereas I know of no conservative political party that calls itself a "Socialist Worker's Party". Such parties are in fact usually of the extreme Left (Trotskyite etc.)

Most people find the viciousness of the Nazis to be incomprehensible -- for instance what they did in their concentration camps. But you just have to read a little of the vileness that pours out from modern-day "liberals" in their Twitter and blog comments to understand it all very well. Leftists haven't changed. They are still boiling with hate

Hatred as a motivating force for political strategy leads to misguided decisions. “Hatred is blind,” as Alexandre Dumas warned, “rage carries you away; and he who pours out vengeance runs the risk of tasting a bitter draught.”

Who said this in 1968? "I am not, and never have been, a man of the right. My position was on the Left and is now in the centre of politics". It was Sir Oswald Mosley, founder and leader of the British Union of Fascists

The term "Fascism" is mostly used by the Left as a brainless term of abuse. But when they do make a serious attempt to define it, they produce very complex and elaborate definitions. In fact, Fascism is simply extreme socialism plus nationalism. But great gyrations are needed to avoid mentioning the first part of that recipe, of course.

- John J. Ray

Nazis were socialist in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy

he literally addresses that in his quote

He also compares tweets to concentration camps
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MakoReizei posted...

The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word "Nazi" is a German abbreviation for "National Socialist" (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was "The National Socialist German Workers' Party" (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)

Just the name of Hitler's political party should be sufficient to reject the claim that Hitler was "Right wing" but Leftists sometimes retort that the name "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is not informative, in that it is the name of a dismal Stalinist tyranny. But "People's Republic" is a normal name for a Communist country whereas I know of no conservative political party that calls itself a "Socialist Worker's Party". Such parties are in fact usually of the extreme Left (Trotskyite etc.)

Most people find the viciousness of the Nazis to be incomprehensible -- for instance what they did in their concentration camps. But you just have to read a little of the vileness that pours out from modern-day "liberals" in their Twitter and blog comments to understand it all very well. Leftists haven't changed. They are still boiling with hate

Hatred as a motivating force for political strategy leads to misguided decisions. “Hatred is blind,” as Alexandre Dumas warned, “rage carries you away; and he who pours out vengeance runs the risk of tasting a bitter draught.”

Who said this in 1968? "I am not, and never have been, a man of the right. My position was on the Left and is now in the centre of politics". It was Sir Oswald Mosley, founder and leader of the British Union of Fascists

The term "Fascism" is mostly used by the Left as a brainless term of abuse. But when they do make a serious attempt to define it, they produce very complex and elaborate definitions. In fact, Fascism is simply extreme socialism plus nationalism. But great gyrations are needed to avoid mentioning the first part of that recipe, of course.

- John J. Ray

Nazis were socialist in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy
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Nomadic View posted...

How is punching someone, who's only threat to you is a vote, a viable argument for self defense? That person is going to vote against the attackers' interests whether or not the victim is assaulted. There is no justification or turning of the tides that a physical assault will bring, short of incapacitating the victim so that victim cannot physically vote, or outright homicide to prevent the vote.

Physical violence is not self defense when the offense is not itself a physical threat.

The ideology itself is inherently violent. Anyone who follows it is an inherent threat by virtue of them following it.

Also (to use an example), punching Richard Spencer was helpful because it forced people to choose sides - either with the fascist, or against him. This strategy was used by the anti-slavery side before the American Civil War - they would go to "neutral" churches, interrupt the services, and refuse to allow the service to continue until they picked a side.
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

averagejoel posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

averagejoel posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

ColdRainAndSnow posted...

Would they be there with people starting crap? And these alt-right cucks they're the ones showing up with armor, helmets and clubs. They're looking for a fight.

Yes, let's live in pretend land where Antifa isn't the one destroying banks, assaulting people, lighting fires, etc. Let's just ignore all the video evidence off mobs of them doing this. Let's all just lie to ourselves and pretend this is reality.

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology. Believe it or not, using violence to retaliate does not make antifa worse

You're delusional. Antifa is not defending themselves, you have no idea what Fascism is, and hitting a passed out man in the street with a metal pool or burning down a business isn't retaliation.

I do know what fascism is. Let me restate and elaborate:

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology. Anyone who follows it is an inherent threat to anyone who would be marginalized under fascism. Therefore, physical violence against fascists is self-defense for anyone who would be marginalized against fascism (e.g. women, LGBT people, people of colour, religious minorities, non-fascists, etc.)

I hope you enjoy your future prison sentence.

I didn't say that I would do it, only that it is morally right to do so. Physically attacking fascists is good, but, purely hypothetically speaking, if I were to do it, I would not be stupid about it.
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Communist (which, in case you didn't know, implies antifa)
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

averagejoel posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

ColdRainAndSnow posted...

Would they be there with people starting crap? And these alt-right cucks they're the ones showing up with armor, helmets and clubs. They're looking for a fight.

Yes, let's live in pretend land where Antifa isn't the one destroying banks, assaulting people, lighting fires, etc. Let's just ignore all the video evidence off mobs of them doing this. Let's all just lie to ourselves and pretend this is reality.

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology. Believe it or not, using violence to retaliate does not make antifa worse

You're delusional. Antifa is not defending themselves, you have no idea what Fascism is, and hitting a passed out man in the street with a metal pool or burning down a business isn't retaliation.

I do know what fascism is. Let me restate and elaborate:

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology. Anyone who follows it is an inherent threat to anyone who would be marginalized under fascism. Therefore, physical violence against fascists is self-defense for anyone who would be marginalized against fascism (e.g. women, LGBT people, people of colour, religious minorities, non-fascists, etc.)
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

ColdRainAndSnow posted...

Would they be there with people starting crap? And these alt-right cucks they're the ones showing up with armor, helmets and clubs. They're looking for a fight.

Yes, let's live in pretend land where Antifa isn't the one destroying banks, assaulting people, lighting fires, etc. Let's just ignore all the video evidence off mobs of them doing this. Let's all just lie to ourselves and pretend this is reality.

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology. Believe it or not, using violence to retaliate does not make antifa worse
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why would you even mention the fire thing at the same time as the others
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Albums or individual songs?

What era - 80s, 90s (east or west coast?), 2000s, 2010s?

Any rappers that you already know you like?
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the Human Rights he threatens are far more important ​than any benefit he might bring
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

You guys are anti gentrification, but then you buy online and shop in person at places like Costco, Walmart, Kmart, Best Buy and so on. Local businesses die that way and lots of people lose their jobs, and it discourages locals from staying in their home towns and other tight-knit neighborhoods. But nobody cares as long as they get the best deal on their computer equipment and home furniture.

This outrage against gentrification is disingenuous.

People have to live. Sometimes there's only one option

Also there's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism
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