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TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
09/20/21 4:38:16 PM
#195
turbopuns3 posted...
2) I'm mildly disappointed that Chris and Dels haven't offered thoughts

sorry, i didn't follow the game closely enough to comment anything more and honestly i just don't have the mental space to think about this in-depth atm

TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
09/05/21 11:15:59 PM
#154
Forceful_Dragon posted...
I feel like this is kind of a cop out, and if it's how things work then it should be re-evaluated.

Otherwise if you had a Michael Jordan-esque mafia player you would by definition have to rate them the highest no matter how they performed. Because it is common knowledge that they are the best player.

Your follow up point about Gorf's "open book" playstyle is a more reasonably approach to have, and you could argue that this constituted "playing the best" within the game.

But the way you phrased it makes it sounds like your knowledge of who the best player is all that matters for the vote regardless of individual performance. idk

It's about who showed that they are the best player in the game. Not based on outside knowledge.
TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/30/21 3:29:48 PM
#142
Lopen posted...
I also think the actual stats in the game should count for something and it shouldn't be straight voting (maybe it isn't?) because while getting stuck on "a bad team" can happen on average good players will win more often than bad ones, regardless of team they're on. With enough sample size you'd be able to stabilize bad draws to the point where game results actually do indicate the strength of a player.

well, a game takes weeks to play, with 48 hour days. so you don't really have time to get any proper sample size for the players, unfortunately. that's why that sort of system isn't a possibility.

TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/30/21 1:23:52 PM
#132
the panel is made up of the previous year's finalists, so yes, they are usually pretty good.

do you mean meta-mafia as in people trying to vote strategically, i.e. give less points to the best players, so they have more of a chance to advance themselves?

generally doesn't happen. there's a lot of votes besides your own, you will make a minimum impact really.

hell, by turbo's own admission, the people that advanced are 4/5 of the players he thought deserved to. he doesn't actually disagree with the result as a whole, it seems.
TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/30/21 12:51:23 PM
#130
well, theoretically it is more about their ability to judge than about their impartiality.

it's assumed that the people who made it to semifinals will be good judges of gameplay ability, whereas those in the qualifiers can be just any random person sent by any community.
TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/30/21 11:16:32 AM
#128
Lopen posted...
I feel like there should be a group of uninformed observers that decide who advances not the players themselves.

well, there are. that's how turbo advanced past the qualifier stage.

but that system ends in the semifinals.

TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/29/21 10:27:59 AM
#114
i do think there is an issue with champs where people know each other from past games and it makes it less of an even player field.

this is going to happen more and more, as champs gets more well known. and old-school message boards are phasing out of popularity, mafia scenes are dying, so more and more people will go to MU as a mafia hub for games throughout the year.
TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/29/21 10:26:21 AM
#113
being well-liked matters, but that's not entirely separate from skill. mafia is a social game, and if people find you agreeable, they will be less likely to lynch you, and more likely to listen to your cases. (which are things you want as both town and scum)
TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/29/21 10:22:47 AM
#112
turbopuns3 posted...
Like, I voted SK and Ephemera lower in g10 because I was salty about their success in game lol


i think it's fair to not rank wolves high if you felt they were easy to catch, even if the rest of the game didn't

because mafia skill level is subjective. and it doesn't exist in a vacuum. since they fooled an entire town, they were "objectively" good. but your vote can be your own subjective experience, and if every player in the town had your mindset instead of being swindled because they knew those two from past games, they may have been caught more easily, or at least wouldn't have controlled the game as much.
Topicgreat ace attorney playthrough topic
Dels
08/17/21 12:50:51 AM
#130
I need to see more from van Zieks. I don't dislike him. He's kinda cool. There's just... not much there yet. They barely gave him a bit of a story at the end of the trial. The rest are all great though. Which is surprising because I shouldn't like Sholmes' and Iris' archtypes. And even Susato is a rare hit because most of the attempts at non-Maya sidekicks have felt pretty derivative. The writing in this game is excellent for the characters. At least for the important characters - the multi-witnesses and jury members were just annoying one-note gimmicks.
Topicgreat ace attorney playthrough topic
Dels
08/17/21 12:40:08 AM
#127
This game's cases don't adhere to the usual format, so it's hard to compare them by number.

Case 1 is a case 1.

Case 2 is like, a prologue.

Case 3 is like a case 1 again. Maybe a case 4 like T&T's.

Case 4 is like a case 2.

And case 5 is like, a case 3 like AAI's or SoJ's where it's involved and has big plot relevance and stakes for the main characters, but not like an actual epic case.

I'm hoping GAA2 will have something that actually feels like we've reached cases 4 and 5!
Topicgreat ace attorney playthrough topic
Dels
08/17/21 12:31:59 AM
#125
i was sad you stopped at case 5 because that's where i started liking the game as well. but even the intro hooked me. i mean, the pawn shop isn't the most exciting thing ever but i was giving it the benefit of the doubt that this setup was finally going to go somewhere, and it did. mostly i really like the game's cast and case 5 finally gave them a real case to work with.

hopefully GAA2 keeps up like that and doesn't throw another 4 tutorial cases at you before you get to the good stuff
TopicNintendo officially endorses "Search Action" as a genre name
Dels
08/11/21 4:01:34 PM
#182
LeonhartFour posted...
the one thing I wish other RPGs would copy from Mario RPGs is timed hits

it's such a simple thing to include and it's so much fun

also i wouldn't say it's that simple to do it well

like, if i recall, lost odyssey had this but it was the most basic execution of it, just a single timed hit for normal attacks, and it wasn't very satisfying at all. mario RPGs work so well because there's all sorts of variety to it and they really make you feel the impact viscerally. just adding a timed circle to a normal attack doesn't actually feel very good.
TopicNintendo officially endorses "Search Action" as a genre name
Dels
08/11/21 3:47:16 PM
#179
why has no game since legend of dragoon used the addition system

plz
TopicNintendo officially endorses "Search Action" as a genre name
Dels
08/09/21 12:27:26 PM
#134
I agree with everything Neato has said
TopicNintendo officially endorses "Search Action" as a genre name
Dels
08/08/21 8:00:50 PM
#108
TopicThe Great Ace Attorney Chronicles Review Zone
Dels
08/05/21 8:33:09 PM
#132
Mac Arrowny posted...
Eh, other games already do the all cases connecting thing and they do it better than GAA.

So does Ghost Trick

Right. The issue is this game had to stick to the AA format (5 cases, each one has a defendant and a trial resulting in learning the real killer), when it would be much better off if it didn't have to do that. And it didn't! But because you're not expecting that, it all feels very underwhelming in the moment. And it could've done it better if it freed itself from those shackles completely instead of weakly trying to conform. (game 1 spoilers only)
TopicThe Great Ace Attorney Chronicles Review Zone
Dels
08/05/21 2:26:48 PM
#117
anyway, after finishing the first game:

i think the key to appreciating this game would be going into it knowing that it really doesn't want to be an ace attorney game. like, case 2 doesn't even have a trial and is super underwhelming. case 3 ends with absolutely no resolution. case 4 only exists to be a filler between cases 3 and 5 and its completely pointless, because this game's strength isn't the murder mysteries, it's the overarching plot and character motivations. i mean you literally don't even know who the victim is until you go to court, you get 2 pieces of evidence in a whole investigation day, what. case 5 is really interesting when it comes to the mystery behind it all, but the actual case is so far from any other "epic" case in the series, i mean what other final case takes places entirely in one room and has a total of... 3 witnesses? (2 of which are basically a pair anyway)

A+ for characters though. C- for the actual murder mysteries. like B for the overall plot. i'm quite intrigued to learn more in the sequel. just dreading these cases whose complexity levels basically never rise beyond the difficulty of a tutorial case.
TopicThe Great Ace Attorney Chronicles Review Zone
Dels
08/05/21 2:20:50 PM
#116
UshiromiyaEva posted...
I dunno, maybe it's just been too long and all the other AA games have stuff like this too that didn't bother me at the time. Maybe other games I have played since then with more legitimate mysteries have made me less tolerant of how drawn out this stuff can be, especially in this particular case where the stakes are SO low. Right now, just going by old memories, I'd say this is probably one of the worst cases in AA as a whole. Not THE worst, of course, but up there.

yeah i had the same feeling. i was like "am i crazy, or are AA games usually more complex than this? like am i just used to the tropes now? is nostalgia clouding my mind?"

but i don't think we're crazy, i think AA games usually are harder. i mean i don't think i had to think longer than a minute for almost any cross-exam or present in the game, and even those cases it wasn't because you have to realize anything clever, it's just a bit unintuitive to know what to present.

it's modern game design streamlining at its absolute peak, holding your hand so you never have to think about anything
TopicThe Great Ace Attorney Chronicles Review Zone
Dels
08/05/21 2:18:45 PM
#115
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Starting to feel like this game would be much better and lose absolutely nothing if 20% of the dialogue was jut straight up removed.

i mean it feels like every case will occasionally draw out a really obvious conclusion through multiple testimonies. like case 1 the plates being switched and then case 4 it's just really obvious the knife came out the window for like the final 30% of the case but you have to do soooo much to get people to accept it. it makes everything feel very anticlimactic and unsatisfying.
TopicSHINE doesn't play Great Ace Attorney
Dels
08/03/21 12:34:15 PM
#11
Bartzyx posted...
It took me until the first investigations game but yeah

but they got better after that

TopicAww Yeah Baten Kaitos Origin beated! Pick my next GCN game!
Dels
08/02/21 12:24:54 PM
#6
origins is really good
Topicgreat ace attorney playthrough topic
Dels
08/01/21 6:36:22 PM
#91
yeah, starting case 4 felt weird, not just because my mind was still dwelling on case 3, but also because it feels sort of like "i'm starting the fourth case but i feel like i've barely accomplished anything?"
TopicIf anyone was wondering about my mafia championship qualifier game
Dels
08/01/21 6:32:25 PM
#59
making it via jury is pretty impressive. it's a very thorough and heavily-debated process. congrats.
TopicRate the VG Story Day 60: Firewatch
Dels
07/31/21 6:54:42 PM
#8
Snake5555555555 posted...
I love the experience of radioing your co-worker day in and out, as your only piece of human interaction. This is a bit of a dream job of mine so it was nice to role-play as Henry throughout the game. The dialogue is well-written, and the way the deeper story unfolds is reminiscent of Gone Home, with elements of mystery, conspiracy, and horror that just end up being total red herrings, instead focusing on something a lot more real. Yet, I don't think it works that well here; it's less red herring to me, and more, "oh we are just kind of lying to you to make the story seem more interesting than it is". The pacing ramps up to these shocking revelations and just halts it all with a disappointing payoff. The ending is also unsatisfying and feels rushed, and overall I just feel the time spent with these characters was just a waste by the time the credits roll.

^ This

i'd rate the first half quite highly and then the second half just like, whatever.
TopicAce Attorney Music: Which of these poll winners is your favorite? (Part 1)
Dels
07/31/21 10:56:03 AM
#6
athena's theme was my #1 the last time i did full series rankings

for all my talk of being a counter-culture JFA-loving rebel, i'm just a normie in the end
Topicgreat ace attorney playthrough topic
Dels
07/31/21 8:36:02 AM
#36
i thought it was a fun case, but yeah, i liked kazuma. mia dying to redd white, once you know her whole story, is a bit anticlimactic, but in the moment it works because a) it's shocking and b) we spent like half an hour with mia whereas G1-1 is like 6 hours long. so i wanted kazuma to stick around. and it's almost never satisfying in any piece of fiction when an important character dies just by happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

also i think case 2 shows the importance of music. because we never go to trial, the music never ramps up. if this was an investigations game, we'd at least start going allegro, presto, pursuit at the final confrontation. but it's not, and we just kind of have mostly the same music tracks playing the whole time, together with the "wait is there going to be a trial", it's sort of anticlimactic. especially because the mystery isn't even that compelling, so it's just like "oh, that's it?" the whole time.
TopicJodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall are leaving Doctor Who
Dels
07/30/21 12:26:19 PM
#13
i thought clara was at her best in season 8. they actually gave her a character other than being super clever and perfect and knowing everything. they even gave her flaws.
TopicJodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall are leaving Doctor Who
Dels
07/30/21 12:22:36 PM
#11
season 10 is fairly moffat-trope-y but he actually does some fresh things and i really liked it. season 9 is the one that just feels like moffat trying to one-up himself every episode. season 8 actually has a few episodes that felt like RTD-era, including the finale somehow.
TopicJodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall are leaving Doctor Who
Dels
07/30/21 12:17:32 PM
#10
season 12 made the classic mistake of backstory over character development. like, great, i've learned a ton of lore about the history of the doctor and the time lords and stuff that happened before the 1st doctor. but I don't feel I actually know Jodie's doctor very well. and i never cared about that lore anyway
TopicJodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall are leaving Doctor Who
Dels
07/30/21 12:16:03 PM
#9
I actually really liked Broadchurch season 2, which he was the head writer for. So I had somewhat high hopes despite his Doctor Who episodes all being mediocre. But... yeah.
TopicJodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall are leaving Doctor Who
Dels
07/30/21 12:10:20 PM
#5
oh, yeah, i missed that you said you hadn't seen capaldi. his stuff is good. i like seasons 8 and 10 quite a bit. not 9. (but many like 9 the most so)
TopicJodie Whittaker and showrunner Chris Chibnall are leaving Doctor Who
Dels
07/30/21 12:06:35 PM
#3
colliding posted...
Has it been good? Full disclosure: I haven't seen an episode since Capaldi took over.

not particularly

some episodes have been alright
Topicgreat ace attorney playthrough topic
Dels
07/29/21 10:42:08 AM
#22
i thought case 1 was good up until it started to really drag in the 3rd segment. like, the detective admits he took two plates of steak from the scene, why did we need to go through such a long run-around instead of just saying "hey can we see the second one"

i'm also hoping kazuma is alive though i can't tell if that's just a foolish delusion. i like kazuma.

and i think, like. they already did the "mentor dies" thing for phoenix and then "mentor is evil" for apollo, i think they could've gone a different direction with it. i was getting some real "we'll split paths for most of the game and then he triumphantly returns in case 5 for a major plot event" vibes, but... i guess not? idk. we'll see if we get to see the body for real. remember paralysis has been introduced as a thing, maybe that's what happened? the intro did show a snake, right? snake could poison him and it induces paralysis but not death

(that's not a spoiler because i stopped at the same point as you last night, just speculation)
TopicRate the VG Story Day 56: The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
Dels
07/29/21 9:51:55 AM
#19
i've played it but i don't usually rate here because isolating a game's story to rate independently just isn't how i view games, but since you asked...

if this game's story was a movie or a book i'd have no interest in it. very low rating. like 2 or 3.

in the context of it being a vehicle to support the gameplay, mystery, exploration, i'd say like a 6 or something. not super gripping, but held my attention and kept me invested.

i guess that counts as a 6, if you want more votes.
TopicRate the VG Story Day 56: The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
Dels
07/28/21 11:11:49 AM
#9
I think FFXIV should be done by expansion. There's a massive difference between them. And each expansion's story is about the length of any standard single-player JRPG. They have a plot thread but each one's main arc is mostly standalone.
TopicThe Great Ace Attorney Chronicles Review Zone
Dels
07/27/21 3:29:41 PM
#49
Nanis23 posted...
PC Version has Borderless Window option
That's it I am satisfied best port

I wish Borderless Window worked for me! But it just doesn't render and I have to force quit the game. Same happened with Mega Man 11, I guess it's just a Capcom thing.
TopicAce Attorney Music: Which Pursuit theme is your favorite?
Dels
07/25/21 2:19:50 PM
#21
If Pursuit - Cornered weren't the PW1 track, I don't believe it would be winning. I don't dislike it, but so many of these other tracks are just amazingly composed.

But I'm naturally a rebel and try to overcorrect for nostalgia.

If anything, I almost have more of an emotional connection to SoJ's because of how thrilling it was to get such a strong game again in the series and how powerful moments of cases 3 and 5 were.
TopicAce Attorney Music: Which Pursuit theme is your favorite?
Dels
07/24/21 5:46:20 PM
#4
I really love JFA's but I voted DD. Could go the other way depending on the day.

But they basically never dropped the ball on any of these. Both Investigations are really good.
TopicAce Attorney Music: Which Confess the Truth theme is your favorite?
Dels
07/23/21 8:47:04 PM
#9
i'm pretty split between JFA and T&T but i voted JFA because i figured T&T would be winning and no one likes JFA's soundtrack

shows you what i know. oops.
TopicDragon Quest XII could shape the next 10-20 years of the series
Dels
07/20/21 5:45:16 PM
#17
Crescent-Moon posted...
Dragon Quest without a turn based battle system... Is that really Dragon Quest?

dragon quest: like a yakuza

it's only fair
TopicAce Attorney Music: Which fictional character/alter ego theme is your favorite?
Dels
07/02/21 7:49:29 PM
#8
Gramarye theme has always been one of my favourites, but I can't vote against Steel Samurai.
TopicDoki Doki Literature Club Plus! Review Zone
Dels
07/02/21 5:03:37 PM
#11
Mayonesa posted...
How do they do a certain section on console?

looks like this version has some changed made to it for that

(implied semi-spoilers:) https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1388880/ss_188001a5bfcfede5be35099f06f7b5ced2d2bcec.jpg?t=1625071321
TopicAce Attorney Music: Which save jingle is your favorite?
Dels
07/01/21 9:08:51 PM
#7
had a hard time picking between 2, 4, and 5.
TopicHere is a very TRICKY RIDDLE that is dividing the INTERNET!! Can you solve it??.
Dels
07/01/21 5:11:08 AM
#44
how is the past tense of "had" four eggs any different than the past tense of the thief "gave" me three

if having four eggs means it was in the past and doesn't count, then why does being given 3 mean it's the present now???
TopicHow often do you drink soda or pop?
Dels
06/30/21 12:21:46 AM
#33
used to every day, like at least one bottle a day.

quit cold turkey about 8 years ago and haven't once since then. just water with every meal.
TopicI got LASIK...and if you wear glasses or contacts, go get it now
Dels
06/29/21 1:55:07 PM
#66
pezzicle posted...
like, even drops, which i know i have to do for awhile afterwards. i legit hate it and recoil and hardly ever get them in my eyes properly

oh. yeah, even if i could manage the actual procedure, i really doubt i'd be able to do eye drops myself afterwards.
TopicI got LASIK...and if you wear glasses or contacts, go get it now
Dels
06/29/21 3:23:50 AM
#37
it's part of it. yes, if my eyes are made numb and held open and i can't feel anything, that... sounds good.

but i think it's part physical, and part mental. how do they even get you in that state? as soon as anything goes near my eyes i start freaking out, so whatever they do to make you numb and hold them open could be a problem before the procedure even starts?

and also just seeing them doing that stuff, seeing this white light people are describing, knowing they're doing that to my eyes, could be mentally tough.
TopicI got LASIK...and if you wear glasses or contacts, go get it now
Dels
06/29/21 3:09:08 AM
#34
Robazoid posted...
I can't even hold my eyes open for eye drops. Just reading the mild descriptions here of cutting or having my eye held open is giving me the heebie jeebies

yeah, i'd love to get lasik but my eyes are super sensitive - i can't even put contacts on, can't apply eye make up without shaking horribly, etc. so i'm not sure i'll be able to.
TopicHere is a very TRICKY RIDDLE that is dividing the INTERNET!! Can you solve it??.
Dels
06/29/21 3:05:48 AM
#32
the real mystery is why full throttle didn't even list any answers above 8

like

you've gotta at least put 12 as an answer??? even if it's a "trick"
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