Poll of the Day > Why are people upset about the Tears of the Kingdom gameplay

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I think it's fine if people don't like it. I get dopamine from game, they don't, it's not like any argument is going to do anything. I've never enjoyed a game less from someone telling me that it sucks, because it doesn't work that way.

Whenever I read people saying "x media sucks" I infer that they're trying to communicate that they don't enjoy it rather than the normal discussion of how we as a group should feel about things that are objectively good or bad. I'm more annoyed by people who treat it like politics and attack the other side as if they've made some logical mistake, or that they have some other motive other than expressing their taste in media.

Vehicle crafting sounds good but I feel like you'll run out of resources fast that way. I haven't really used any horses since it's a pain to get to most stables even with fast travel. They should have put fast travel points inside the actual cities and stables.

Yeah that's true, I didn't really use horses that much in BotW. Most of the time if I wanted to go somewhere, I would just climb over whatever was in my way. If your horse was like Torrent in Elden Ring where you can just call it wherever whenever I would ride horses way more.

papercup posted...

If your horse was like Torrent in Elden Ring where you can just call it wherever whenever I would ride horses way more.

For that matter, if it were like Epona in OoT, so it's not like there's no precedent for magical horse-calling in the series.

Revelation34 posted...

Vehicle crafting sounds good but I feel like you'll run out of resources fast that way. I haven't really used any horses since it's a pain to get to most stables even with fast travel. They should have put fast travel points inside the actual cities and stables.

They do have that one thing you can out anywhere That said, I left mine in Tarrey Town

papercup posted...

Yeah that's true, I didn't really use horses that much in BotW. Most of the time if I wanted to go somewhere, I would just climb over whatever was in my way. If your horse was like Torrent in Elden Ring where you can just call it wherever whenever I would ride horses way more.

Thats why I was happy to get the Master Cycle

adjl posted...

For that matter, if it were like Epona in OoT, so it's not like there's no precedent for magical horse-calling in the series.

Tbf, in this game, you can most just tame any horse you found in the wild if you just want a horse, which is good Dont know all the best horse spots, though

I never actually played the BotW DLC

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/1/AAFUswAAEX2L.jpg

papercup posted...

I never actually played the BotW DLC

Nor did I. It crossed my mind that I should get it and replay BotW, since I haven't played it since I first beat it back when it came out and I would like to play the DLC, but with TotK so close and probably going to be a day one buy, I probably won't. More so where I've still got some of Nier Automata left that I would like to finish before starting anything else, I'm thoroughly re-addicted to Factorio, and if I'm replaying anything, it's going to be Xenoblade 3 in hopes of fitting a NG+ playthrough with DLC in before the final DLC comes out. A BotW playthrough isn't exactly high on the list, unfortunately.

Metalsonic66 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/1/AAFUswAAEX2L.jpg

I'm honestly not expecting a whole lot from the vehicle crafting as far as my actual gameplay experience goes, but I'm really looking forward to the shenanigans that will inevitably make their way to youtube. BotW already had more than its fair share of stupid videos like that, and I'm fully expecting this to dial them up to 11.

The DLC was pretty good - it added some challenges that were notably lacking in the main game. Worth it in this instance I think.

The heros path thing in particular was also awesome to let you know which little parts of the world you hadnt looked at yet.

I did like the path thing a bunch

wpot posted...

The DLC was pretty good - it added some challenges that were notably lacking in the main game. Worth it in this instance I think.

The heros path thing in particular was also awesome to let you know which little parts of the world you hadnt looked at yet.

That's been my impression, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Typical backlog problems.

LinkPizza posted...

They do have that one thing you can out anywhere That said, I left mine in Tarrey Town

Thats why I was happy to get the Master Cycle

Tbf, in this game, you can most just tame any horse you found in the wild if you just want a horse, which is good Dont know all the best horse spots, though

I assume that's the Lord of the Mountain. I didn't have enough stamina when I attempted to capture it. I didn't even know it existed. I was fast traveling in between Dueling Peaks stable and the shrine on that mountain trying to trigger the blood moon to unlock the shrine that was across from that one. Just happened to see a weird glowing light all of a sudden.

I have max stamina now so I'll attempt it later tonight.

wpot posted...

The DLC was pretty good - it added some challenges that were notably lacking in the main game. Worth it in this instance I think.

The heros path thing in particular was also awesome to let you know which little parts of the world you hadnt looked at yet.

The hero's path is funny. Just watching Link die over and over again.

I haven't met a single person not excited about Tears, let alone bitching about it/calling it DLC. Which is especially odd, considering all of the plot and a huge chunk of the game mechanics and everything is still a mystery, one which I assume a final direct will shine more light on.

Then again, I don't visit the wretched hive that are the system and game boards.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

I haven't met a single person not excited about Tears, let alone bitching about it/calling it DLC.

@CyborgSage00x0 Well now you've met one. I'm not interested in Tears in the least bit. It looks too much like BotW 2 from what I've seen, and that was my least favorite Zelda game of all time (MM, WW, LA, and Minish Cap being my favorites). I don't want another BotW, so I'll definitely pass on this one if it turns out to be more like that game. The game mechanics, stamina system, and lack of direction annoyed me so much. BotW is one of those "where the fuck do I go" games.

Was it though? The game tells you from the beginning go here, talk to Impa you do that and she tells you where the dungeons are.

Psythik posted...

The game mechanics, stamina system, and lack of direction annoyed me so much. BotW is one of those "where the fuck do I go" games.

"Where the fuck do I go" games don't give you giant objective markers that tell you exactly where you need to go to progress the plot.

Psythik posted...

BotW is one of those "where the f*** do I go" games.

The main story objectives were clearly indicated on the map at all times, and you could very reliably find new shrines to go explore by climbing to a high place and looking around. It was more open-ended than most Zelda games, certainly, but it really wasn't hard to find stuff to do or figure out where you needed to go.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/23680230/zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-final-trailer-nintendo-direct

3 minute trailer tomorrrow morning

Everyone beat me to it, but yeah, storywise you can literally beat the temples in just a few hours from turning the game on, and/or fight Ganon immediately. The story objectives are never a mystery. Everything else, though? Well, that's par for the course of an open world "go explore and have your own fun", which fit in with the theme of a ruined, nature-took-over Hyrule. I myself would like more Zelda-like dungeons and a larger story arc this time around, but BotW was easy to follow.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with preferring a more linear Zelda experience in line with the traditional formulas over BotW's open-world approach, but BotW definitely doesn't suffer from not giving you any indication of where to go.

Its tough

On one hand, weapons that break in 4 hits sucks.

But on the other, if they didnt break that fast youd be loaded up on a billion of the same twigs and spears you find absolutely everywhere. Or theyd have to hide the games only 40 weapons throughout a world the size of Asia.

If they want to keep durability, just increase it a ton so that weapons break after 30 swings instead of 3.

Black_Crusher posted...

But on the other, if they didnt break that fast youd be loaded up on a billion of the same twigs and spears you find absolutely everywhere.

or

you just don't pick them up like you already don't unless you absolutely have no other options

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Everyone beat me to it, but yeah, storywise you can literally beat the temples in just a few hours from turning the game on, and/or fight Ganon immediately. The story objectives are never a mystery. Everything else, though? Well, that's par for the course of an open world "go explore and have your own fun", which fit in with the theme of a ruined, nature-took-over Hyrule. I myself would like more Zelda-like dungeons and a larger story arc this time around, but BotW was easy to follow.

That's impossible. There's not enough good gear that early on to beat the game that fast.

adjl posted...

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with preferring a more linear Zelda experience in line with the traditional formulas over BotW's open-world approach, but BotW definitely doesn't suffer from not giving you any indication of where to go.

It doesn't tell you where to go with map markers half of the time. The map marker will stay on the quest giver instead of where you need to go.

Black_Crusher posted...

Its tough

On one hand, weapons that break in 4 hits sucks.

But on the other, if they didnt break that fast youd be loaded up on a billion of the same twigs and spears you find absolutely everywhere. Or theyd have to hide the games only 40 weapons throughout a world the size of Asia.

If they want to keep durability, just increase it a ton so that weapons break after 30 swings instead of 3.

They should have made it so you could sell weapons.

https://i.redd.it/e2kx5bpgckta1.jpg

Today's trailer was really good, although I was going to buy the game day 1 anyway

I watched the trailer like 4 times. I was already hype, I didnt think I could get more hype.

Post a link, please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGShqcAHlQ

Thank you!

I got to fight side-by-side with best boy Sidon? And Riju and the other champions, as well! Well, this was already a day one buy, but now I want to raid Nintendo to get one early

Yeah the only issue I have with this game is I can't play it right now

I'm still of the opinion that Ganon's voice isn't deep enough.

GanonsSpirit posted...

I'm still of the opinion that Ganon's voice isn't deep enough.

The Japanese voices are probably better tbh. They were in BotW. And I almost never play with JP voices in games, but the English VA in that game was pretty bad.

That is indeed a very hype trailer. Not on the same scale as the last pre-release trailer for Xenoblade 3, because that was absolute peak trailer, but a very hype trailer nonetheless.

Revelation34 posted...

That's impossible. There's not enough good gear that early on to beat the game that fast.

There are plenty of Any% speedruns out there under 25 minutes, let alone a few hours. Those do, of course, make extensive use of glitches to skip content and zoom around the map far faster than would be possible normally, but as far as weapons go those runners just use what they can grab on the way through the castle. Even if you aren't breaking the game in half like speedrunners do, it's perfectly possible to beat the game as fast as he suggested.

So I have a theory, Im most likely wrong, but it kind of sort of explains why the timeline is so wonky. So in Skyward Sword, they keep talking about the ancient past, and the last time Demise was around, and the last time the goddess walked the earth and all of that. So what if time is circular and BotW/TotK are both the beginning and end of the timeline. So when they talk about the ancient past, theyre also talking about their far off future, which is TotK. Its probably wrong, but Demise coming back is interesting.

Especially seemingly having both Demise and Ganondorf, when SS all but explicitly said that they're the same entity. Personally, I'm inclined to just go with "they make up whatever timeline they need to shore up the story they want to tell." The official position was that there was no timeline outside of the direct sequels, right up until they decided they could make money knitting one together to sell Hyrule Historia, so I don't think there's actually any plan to establish and maintain a consistent canon.

Dem shoulders tho

From what I heard, Nintendo didnt really want the timeline, but fans made it happen, anyway They just make the game and let fans make the timeline They have direct sequels and connecting games, but thats it That said, I have heard the beginning and end Theory before. And the converging timelines theory, as well

how tf was todays trailer more information dense than the fuckin direct they did

i am now officially excited for this game now because of this trailer

the fuckin presentation or whatever last week killed what excitement i did have up to that point, christ nintendo what even are you doing over there

ConfusedTorchic posted...

how tf was todays trailer more information dense than the f***in direct they did

It kinda makes sense. A trailer that aims to showcase the story in an exciting way is going to be more informative and exciting than a showcase of a couple new game mechanics that's specifically designed to avoid indicating anything about the story. This is indeed a particularly dense trailer, though.

The trailer shows parts from the whole game, it seems. Where the gameplay footage was all kind of in the assume few areas. I think it makes sense. Its like the difference of watching a trailer and the first 15 minutes of a game

LinkPizza posted...

Its like the difference of watching a trailer and the first 15 minutes of a game

Exactly. Real-time footage of somebody playing a small snippet of the game is inevitably going to be less dramatic and exciting than a condensed showcase of all the dramatic excitement the game has to offer.

adjl posted...

Especially seemingly having both Demise and Ganondorf, when SS all but explicitly said that they're the same entity. Personally, I'm inclined to just go with "they make up whatever timeline they need to shore up the story they want to tell." The official position was that there was no timeline outside of the direct sequels, right up until they decided they could make money knitting one together to sell Hyrule Historia, so I don't think there's actually any plan to establish and maintain a consistent canon.

IIRC, they said there IS an official canon timeline in file folders, but it's a secret, and did likely come about from fans speculating of a timeline. The breakdown generally makes sense, but I guess it'll depend on the explanation of how Ganondorf is alive again.

Are they going to fix Mount Agaat?

Revelation34 posted...

Are they going to fix Mount Agaat?

I think so? I believe it was originally supposed to be accessible in the DLC, but then the rest of the planned DLC was rolled into TotK so who knows.

Also, https://i.redd.it/2y7e180fz3ua1.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTRtWOYja3U

I hope we can eat rocks in TotK

There will be twice as many Koroks.

I hope not. I found like 50 koroks

I think I found enough for every upgrade, and stopped. But I recently found some more. I was helping a co-worker to find some. And he showed me a few on his map, as well

I found some I missed before I knew what things like the stone circles were and before I had the mask. Plus I marked some on the map I missed because I overshot the rocks. Wound up finding another one nearby because of the mask.