Poll of the Day > Why are people upset about the Tears of the Kingdom gameplay

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Nintendo is just copyright striking random youtubers that make Zelda content, and not others. A bunch of PointCrow's videos were taken down, some Nintendo news channels had their stuff taken down. But other large channels were ignored. WTF Nintendo?

Maybe its specific things in those videos they dont want people to see?

nope

LinkPizza posted...

Maybe its specific things in those videos they dont want people to see?

They don't want people to see anything.

LinkPizza posted...

Maybe its specific things in those videos they dont want people to see?

Could be, but that would be weird because the PointCrow videos were all BotW footage.

papercup posted...

Could be, but that would be weird because the PointCrow videos were all BotW footage.

Idk While I know people have had videos taken down, chances are I dont remember what was in them And I never really notice from the people I watch

I recall Smallant mentioning that none of his videos had been taken down (at the time anyway, I don't know if that's still the case or not). He reckoned that one of the reasons might be that he never gives links to any of the mods, or tells people how to Mod the games. Whereas Pointcrow always makes his Mods feely available/credited.

Oh yeah if hes linking to modding stuff that makes sense why they would claim the videos.

Yeah. Nintendos not about those mods. They arent even happy about people breaking Mario Maker & MM2

Yeah, whenever I watch his videos or streams, Pointcrow is always upfront with how the mods he uses are freely available, & either in the description or discord, I can't remember which, perhaps both. I would assume the Links were on Youtube, otherwise how would Nintendo know to take the videos down.

3 weeks!

So the rumor come out, Switch successor will be out end of this year/early next year. Will be backwards compatible with Switch games, certain games like TotK/Splatoon 3/next Mario/Pokemon will get free graphics and performance patches on launch. I've actually been hearing these rumors of a backwards compatible successor for like 6 or 7 months. I think if it was coming within the next year, Nintendo's announcement window is coming to a close pretty soon, so we'll see what happens.

Its possible itll come out. TP came out the same day as the Wii (for both GameCube and Wii), and BotW came out on the same day as the Switch (for Wii U and switch) So, while its too late to have a new system on The Zelda release date, it could come soon Not sure if people will switch to it soon, though Probably depends on what it is Hardware wise, it would need something to actually get people to buy it And would need to basically pull our profiles over But with OLED coming out less than two years ago, Idk For the past two Christmas years, people have probably been getting OLEDs (my sister just got one), and theres a new OLED for TotK So, they may wait a little longer Either way, I guess well find out later

papercup posted...

So the rumor come out, Switch successor will be out end of this year/early next year. Will be backwards compatible with Switch games, certain games like TotK/Splatoon 3/next Mario/Pokemon will get free graphics and performance patches on launch. I've actually been hearing these rumors of a backwards compatible successor for like 6 or 7 months. I think if it was coming within the next year, Nintendo's announcement window is coming to a close pretty soon, so we'll see what happens.

No way it's this year.

They need TotK out at least a month before announcing it, so people don't just wait for the new console, even if it's BC.
I would've launched the new console w/ TotK, but whatever. Otherwise, sounds like they're doing exactly what I said they should, especially if the new console is non-portable and more powerful and Switch is kept as the mobile option to replace 3DS.

Just sucks they held off just long enough to force Eiyuden Chronicle onto Switch instead of the new console.

streamofthesky posted...

They need TotK out at least a month before announcing it, so people don't just wait for the new console, even if it's BC.
I would've launched the new console w/ TotK, but whatever. Otherwise, sounds like they're doing exactly what I said they should, especially if the new console is non-portable and more powerful and Switch is kept as the mobile option to replace 3DS.

Just sucks they held off just long enough to force Eiyuden Chronicle onto Switch instead of the new console.

They won't do that. Nintendo is a Japanese company first, and releasing a non-portable console is a death sentence in Japan.

streamofthesky posted...

They need TotK out at least a month before announcing it, so people don't just wait for the new console, even if it's BC.
I would've launched the new console w/ TotK, but whatever. Otherwise, sounds like they're doing exactly what I said they should, especially if the new console is non-portable and more powerful and Switch is kept as the mobile option to replace 3DS.

Just sucks they held off just long enough to force Eiyuden Chronicle onto Switch instead of the new console.

Chances are the new console will be portable That said, theyll probably wait since theyre about to release TotK Unless they were going to release it with TotK, it doesnt make sense to release it so soon after. And with TotK a few weeks away, we know its not getting released with that game. Id say next year at the earliest But even that seem really soon Though, Ill probably feel different by the time next year rolls around. Haha

And Eiyuden Chronicles isnt the only new games they have coming out soon for the old system But its better that way If they released all these games coming out for the new system, less people would be able to play them

Dikitain posted...

They won't do that. Nintendo is a Japanese company first, and releasing a non-portable console is a death sentence in Japan.

PS5.

Revelation34 posted...

PS5.

Which sold like shit in Japan up until this month, when it FINALLY started selling more than the Switch.

A console that has been out for over 3 years by the time the PS5 came out. Has been out-selling the PS5. For the last 2.5 years.

I stand by my point.

Been playing some Switch games in my backlog, or just to replay. Mostly Mario games. I 100% completed Mario 3D World and Bowsers Fury. Finally played Captain Toad, almost done with that one. Considering playing New Super Mario Bros. U or Luigis Mansion 3 next.

Dikitain posted...

Which sold like shit in Japan up until this month, when it FINALLY started selling more than the Switch.

A console that has been out for over 3 years by the time the PS5 came out. Has been out-selling the PS5. For the last 2.5 years.

I stand by my point.

Nobody could find any.

Oh so what PointCrow did is he commissioned someone to make a multiplayer mod for BotW, which you cannot do that. That is such a blatant breach of the software license, that Nintendo has to step in. The fact they just claimed his videos and didnt sue him, he got off easy.

papercup posted...

Oh so what PointCrow did is he commissioned someone to make a multiplayer mod for BotW, which you cannot do that. That is such a blatant breach of the software license, that Nintendo has to step in. The fact they just claimed his videos and didnt sue him, he got off easy.

Yeah, I believe he would regularly commission mods, and pay for others. I believe the multiplayer mod came out on or around the 4th of April & had been hyped up a lot in recent months.

papercup posted...

Oh so what PointCrow did is he commissioned someone to make a multiplayer mod for BotW, which you cannot do that. That is such a blatant breach of the software license, that Nintendo has to step in. The fact they just claimed his videos and didnt sue him, he got off easy.

Apparently in the US modding is viewed as copyright infringement, which is kind of stupid, since none of the mods include game files. The courts describe them as "distributing alterations of the game", which is misleading, since it implies it's distributing the game, which it's not.

Mods are better summarized as "a program that alters your games to do something else". They're programs that change your game, not derivatives of the game.

If I wrote a program that flipped one bit in your BotW game to make an item invincible, then shared that program, by the above logic that would be copyright infringement, because I "distributed a derivative copy of the game". If mods are piracy, then cheats and patches should also be copyright infringement. They do the same thing.

Feels like the US courts failed to understand how patches work, treating them as if with each patch a full copy of the game was included in the download, and after accepting that false premise went "this isn't protected as a parody".

I feel like the reason cheats and patches are different would be because thats the company who owns the game who did them The cheats are usually put in the game from the beginning, which means its just about unlocking them, so those are way different As for patches, since the clowning company does them, its different Even if those werent different, the company could also choose not to sue themselves

LinkPizza posted...

I feel like the reason cheats and patches are different would be because thats the company who owns the game who did them The cheats are usually put in the game from the beginning, which means its just about unlocking them, so those are way different As for patches, since the clowning company does them, its different Even if those werent different, the company could also choose not to sue themselves

A cheat that's built into the game is part of the game.

A "real" cheat is a tiny scripted program that directly modifies the game's memory during runtime. Patches override the ROM at certain addresses, either acting as a middleman for the address space over overwriting the ROM. There's no technical difference between a mod and a patch. Me writing a program to flip a single bit could be referred to interchangeably as a mod or a patch. Patches carry the connotation that it's "fixing something", while a mod is used to refer to the same thing except it's "adding or modifying features".

Yellow posted...

A cheat that's built into the game is part of the game.

A "real" cheat is a tiny scripted program that directly modifies the game's memory during runtime. Patches override the ROM at certain addresses, either acting as a middleman for the address space over overwriting the ROM. There's no technical difference between a mod and a patch. Me writing a program to flip a single bit could be referred to interchangeably as a mod or a patch.

But the difference between a mod and a patch isnt the issue. The issue is who made it The company can modify their game as they see fit For example, if the company released a mod, the difference between a game company mod and player mod is who made it In the end, it doesnt matter if mods or patches are exactly the same Because the game company says they can do whatever they want, while you cant And in the end, they can always choose not to sue themselves, as that might get somewhat ridiculous

Nintendo game enjoyers.

If I bought a motorcycle and modded it, then posted a video on how to do it on the internet, it would be no different. It would just be easier for the courts to understand. Maybe consider that these corporations don't need your personal protection.

It's possible they don't even believe their own nonsense, they just do these things because they have a legal obligation to their shareholders.

Maybe But in the end, the technical similarities and differences doesnt matter All that matters is who made the mod or patch Even if the mod or patch was exactly the same, it would still be legal for them, but not us

At the end of the day, it boils down to the company wanting to have control over their product, which is reasonable on paper but can obviously be taken to abusive extremes. Nintendo tends toward the latter.

Yeah playing New Super Mario Bros U, first time in like ten years. Yeah idk that I like this game. It just feels so inoffensively, perfectly and scientifically designed that it just feels boring. Idk how to describe it other than that. Like it was designed by committee to be fun, so it ends up just feeling derivative.

Pretty much how I feel about the New series in general

Metalsonic66 posted...

Pretty much how I feel about the New series in general

Yeah they should have changed it up

Yeah I played through 4 worlds in NSMBU and said "this isn't fun, fuck this." and popped Luigi's Mansion 3 in and had a blast. Combat is a bit iffy, but this game is just oozing with Nintendo charm and atmosphere.

I can't wait for TotK. Can't think of barely anything else.

papercup posted...

Yeah I played through 4 worlds in NSMBU and said "this isn't fun, fuck this." and popped Luigi's Mansion 3 in and had a blast. Combat is a bit iffy, but this game is just oozing with Nintendo charm and atmosphere.

I need to get those. I unfortunately could never find Luigi's Mansion for the GameCube way back then so never tried the series.

Revelation34 posted...

I need to get those. I unfortunately could never find Luigi's Mansion for the GameCube way back then so never tried the series.

The first one is pretty good, fun combat, nice atmosphere, but it's pretty short. Only a couple hours long. It's basically a tech demo for the Gamecube.

Dark Moon is longer, split up across multiple locations, each location has a number of standalone missions. There's not really any free roaming exploration of the mansions, you can only go to rooms that the mission allows you to go to. But this game is where the Luigi's Mansion aesthetic and character and art design really came into it's own.

3 is good, a lot of variation in the locations and level design. Lots of charm and Nintendo polish. Pretty long too, when I played yesterday my completed file from a few years ago was over 12 hours. My biggest gripe with this game is how simplistic the combat is. After a while all of the combat encounters feel the same.

Overall the series is worth checking out. I'd say Dark Moon is the weakest of the bunch, but it's still worth playing if you can find it. I never played the 3DS remake of Luigi's Mansion though, so I can't really speak for that version. Hopefully if they make LM4, they make the combat more varied.

Interesting, Nintendo Europe is expected to release a gameplay showcase of TotK on Wednesday. And apparently on Thursday there's an Armored Core 6 trailer/showcase and the release date will be announced.

I guess this just kind of turned into a Nintendo thread for now. Paper Mario was fully decompiled. Unofficial PC ports are possible now, like Mario 64 and OoT a few years ago.

papercup posted...

I guess this just kind of turned into a Nintendo thread for now. Paper Mario was fully decompiled. Unofficial PC ports are possible now, like Mario 64 and OoT a few years ago.

I want a remake for Thousand Year Door.

Revelation34 posted...

I want a remake for Thousand Year Door.

I heard a rumor a while back that it might get ported to Switch but we'll see if that's real or not

Babe, wake up, new Zelda footage is dropping. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sRMNwwLsc0

So, it sounds like Korok seeds exist

They need to get rid of the fucking rain for fucks sake.

why do you hate natures nourishment

That owned

I kinda feel like playing some F-Zero after I finish Luigi's Mansion. :0 Which I'm maybe idk 60% of the way through or something. But TotK will be here pretty quick, just two weeks from tomorrow.

Also I didn't look at what was leaked, but apparently IGN Japan leaked something they weren't supposed to yesterday and Nintendo is big mad.

Apparently people are upset again after the gameplay released yesterday. Wut. Im more excited than ever.

papercup posted...

Apparently people are upset again after the gameplay released yesterday. Wut. Im more excited than ever.

Upset? Upset about what? The only thing Im upset about is how far away the release date is

Because there werent any dungeons shown, just open world stuff and weapon and vehicle crafting. So everyone is back on the theres no dungeons! Its just a sandbox DLC! bandwagon again. Never mind that what was shown yesterday was insane.