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stop fighting, it's stupid

oh for sure the special edition completely ruins it

I don't blame people who think it's awful if that's all they saw.

All the Tatooine stuff in ROTJ (the whole first act basically) is also peak star wars

also the rest of the movie

If not for ROTJ I'd probably be forced to pick TLJ by default

v_charon posted...

If you want to feel that way, that's fine. That's not how I operate though. Every person is accountable is my philosophy. Change starts on the individual level; real change that's going to be lasting. People have to want the world to be a better place, not have the government tell them that's the right way. It goes that way for this virus, global warming, pollution, racism, etc. Anything really. If people on the individual levels aren't changing for the better, I hold them accountable and part of the problem.

Fair enough. I think about it like I do climate change/global warming. Sure, individual people shouldn't litter, blah blah blah. But individuals are not the cause of climate change. And just because one person or even a sizable number of people start to turn off their lights and recycle, that isn't going to solve the problem. It has to come from the top down.

v_charon posted...

Quite frankly, if people like you would stop denying this is a serious issue and do what the hell you're supposed to do like New Zealand, they wouldn't have to close international travel for very long.

I will come to the defense of Smuffin here in that America's predicament really should NOT be placed at its people. It's the leadership or lack thereof. It's the inability to set up systems of contact tracing. It's mixed messaging about mask wearing. It's the fact that for two months you couldn't get tested unless you were basically facing hospitalization anyway. That despite all of this there's still no meaningful reform to health care in this country.

Anti-maskers and people who want to open things up are among those who have seen that America basically failed the last few months. And they're absolutely right. Rather than seek a perpetual shut down to their way of life, they prefer to suck it up and live with the deaths, thinking them to be an acceptable loss. Personally, I don't blame them for feeling this way. As someone who's already lost their grandparents and parents I sometimes think the same way.

Personal attacks on people not wearing masks is a displacement of anger that should be reserved for the government. Not just Trump, but Fauci, the Dems for not pushing MFA, and the CDC too honestly.

It's fine. In a few months they'll lift the travel restrictions to non-US countries and all the tourists will actually talk about how nice it is that there are no Americans here.

Uhhh smuffin, I think most people would say that "not being open to international travel without quarantine" is part of "having it under control"

Maybe if the CDC hadn't told everyone not to wear them for months people would be more interested

chrono

Thanks for the responses! I guess there are scientists on the board, haha.

BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Man Yuffie sucks

this is so true. hope they change her up a little in the remake.

Corrik7 posted...

https://apnews.com/e4d5259bfc6c74fcb090d885737c55a6?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

Apparently over half had an adverse effect of some type and 21% had serious ones. Still hopeful news though.

I'm obviously not a scientist and I'm not expecting people here to be, but if there are multiple strains of the virus is this still cause for optimism? Serious question.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

So I love Witcher 3 and I'll say the game does a massive disservice to newcomers by leading with Velen and then expecting you to do the Bloody Baron storyline (which is...divisive to say the least) first when the game opens up. That is not where all the best writing is and the other two main objectives (Novigrad and Skellige) are a lot more interesting and fun, and also have better sidequests. But maybe you got there and still feel that way and this is moot.

I had played the first two games so when I played 3 I went straight to Novigrad to see all the returning characters and it honestly did wonders for the pacing imo.

I'm in Skellige now. I'm still playing but mostly because it's a pandemic and I'm unemployed, tbh. If I actually had a job/responsibilities/other games in my backlog I probably would've dropped it.

There's not really anything wrong with the story/writing; compared to other wrpg's it's like literature, to be honest. I just don't get sucked in. Some quests are certainly more interesting than others but the plot's conflict is too slight currently. The game hasn't really made me care about Ciri or the Wild Hunt but expects me to?

Anyway, not to derail the thread. I'll echo the earlier posters who praise infamous and Spider-Man PS4. Not a huge open world and fun movement. Strong narrative that isn't overwhelmed by side quests.

looks super cheesy. can't wait.

I feel like I'm completely over open world games other than BoTW

Like I started Witcher 3 and it's sometimes entertaining but the main character sucks and the whole atmosphere is bargain fantasy. There's all this lore and dialogue and a huge (HUGE) world and I just don't care. The writing in the side quests is fine but like there's actually too much here without having a decent main plot.

RDR2 - beautiful game but again it's somewhat boring. I think I'm just about-facing away from sandbox/freedom games and back towards more linear story-driven gameplay (note that I'm not advocating for hallways/corridors, but just more focus)

I don't agree that you need to play a game to the end to criticize its story or gameplay. I think for most games value judgments can be made anywhere between 1/3 or half way through a game. If you play the game a third of the way through, and all the gameplay systems are open to you, and you absolutely do not want to keep playing, then that's a valid criticism.

Even if the last fifteen minutes are really evocative/emotional, you cannot discount the fact that something prevented this player from wanting to invest their time in the game.

Anyway, I do feel kind of bad that this topic has been effectively derailed from its original purpose.

I hardly did any of the sidequests in the original.

Particularly if they involved driving for long amounts of time (which everything did in the original)

Mobilezoid posted...

You all boil down to the same argument, that the game is a flawless masterpiece and not liking it is wrong.

I haven't played it, so I don't know if it's good. I can say that I find certain aspects of the story disappointing, but I cannot make a claim as to the story's overall quality without having played the game first.

If you play the game and dislike it then that's fine. You're overreacting to the posts on purpose or you have terrible reading comprehension.

Video game narratives don't exist independently of gameplay. A game's mechanics can have a huge impact on how the narrative is conveyed and received by the player.

"It's no different than a movie other than you had to press a button to keep watching." Yes. So it is different. Our difference in opinion stems from people discounting the importance of the button press, where I think it is essential.

If I watched someone play Metal Gear Solid 2, I could definitely have an opinion about the story and what I saw, but said opinion most likely would have changed if I had played the game myself. You need that role-playing aspect of gameplay to build attachment to Raiden.

The problem with the "watching it is enough to form opinions" argument is that you're not watching it in a vacuum. If you're watching a streamer, their reactions are going to affect your personal reaction.

Also, I do think button pressing is a big deal, because of immersion. The stories of most JRPG's are pretty bad, but actually playing the game and maneuvering your avatar around the world actually does help in this regard.

Grand Kirby posted...

I laughed for like a solid minute

https://mobile.twitter.com/cthulhu_chan_/status/1281652803560062976

The best thing about this is how the little kid slowly floats closer to York the entire time

the devs here know exactly what they're doing. this might seriously create the "bad game genre"

I thought it was funny that people were running with your mask metaphor so I let it go

we get that it's not in any particular order - you didn't have to have two number 1's to support that point! (yes, I can read I just wanted to be flippant).

and the conclusion you draw in your second number 1 is more like what I think is happening, except Santa's word choice of "misconduct" is a willful softening of the actual issue, which is sexual assault.

Persona 5

just to pull a change of heart on corrupt politicians

I don't want to read another post from Santa in this topic until he says "What Mangs is accused of doing here is sexual assault."

SantaRPidgey posted...

Hey earnestly asking this, but I can't imagine knowing two people in my life who weren't in the exact same situation as mangs and goose. I think I've probably even been in Mang's shoes sometime in my younger years. Is being in this situation really that hanus?

I'm not trying to say he wasn't an asshole, same way I'm not saying I'm not an asshole, but this seems to be a pretty paint by numbers scenario with unrequited love.

Just because you know people who have been in similar situations doesn't mean we should try to normalize this behavior as unrequited love. The "cuddling" as he calls it is wrong, as were his drunk texts.

I dislike all of them.

Give me a fanservicey reverse cover or give me nothing

y'all are crazy, klk rules

Snrkiko posted...

so gurren lagann
then the movies
then i should probably finish fma brotherhood
guess i should watch attack on titan

what else

are those evangelion retelling movies done yet lmao

kill la kill obviously if you haven't yet

The actual story of MGSV is absolutely not lighthearted and hilarious. It's much more grim than any other game in the series.

The game retains the absurdity of earlier installments, but we're talking about the story itself and comparing it to prior stories in the series.

I'm the complete opposite and found the actual gameplay of MGSV much more satisfying than XV. I could sneak around in the fox engine all day.

Story-wise the two games cancel each other out. Both seem to have a story to tell but can't tell it well. Both require additional legwork to actually understand the story, beyond the act of playing the game . For XV, you have to watch a pretty bad prologue movie, download multiple DLC's which aren't integrated into the story very well, and even then you probably need to read a wiki.

For MGSV you gotta listen to hours and hours of tapes, most of which are boring exposition dumps. There are a handful of good ones. Maybe this is in a way Peace Walker's fault, because the tapes there were actually kind of fun, but here they are not. So yeah, story-wise it's a wash. One has cup noodles, the other kazuhira burgers.

Leonhart4 posted...

It's just kinda dumb. They go from completely incompetent at music to good enough to play a song with Rise (a pop idol) in one day.

Also, out of all the new scenes it is by far the least funny and it comes at a time where you really want to be finishing up your social links, so it just feels like a waste of time.

metaIslug posted...

The like, 8 hours before it starts. P4 is molasses

another solid option.

I put Naoto's dungeon up there because it feels the most bland to me. Like by that point the novelty of the dungeons has pretty much worn out.

So how does this compare to Memories of Celceta (Vita) and YS VIII (Switch), the only other Ys games I've played? I liked them both as purely mindless entertainment but I'm not sure how hyped I can get for a Ys game.

Leonhart4 posted...

You very rarely need more than one of a required item.

True. I guess I'm thinking more about P3. There's one though where you have to get a certain number of materials in order for Daidara to make a certain piece of armor though. Which made me hate the game.

Of course you can just "not do them" but why not try to make them fun. At least there's no trophy for 100% quest completion.

kateee posted...

Void Quest is worst dungeon with worst music in the game

Ah! I should've added this to the poll. Not void dungeon perse, but the fact that dungeon music starts over after every battle. So basically all you're hearing in Void Quest is the same five or six beeps between battles.

I guess the idea is that it gives you something else to do while you go after the secret bosses but the rng of getting the right monsters to appear and getting the required number of items to drop is just ugh

Honestly, while I love Persona 3-5, none of them have done quests well. P5's quests are short and sweet, so that's nice, but they're all basically the same. Persona 3 is actually better than 4 because all the quests are laid out for you by Elizabeth and you can accept the quests before you actually get to the Tartarus floors. But then the game throws "people wandering into Tartarus" at you, so there's a lot of forced exiting and replaying floors.

Something for P6 to fix maybe. Also make the cast older please.

It's very unlikely people are getting the virus from surfaces, unless you're licking them or something. The idea of leaving packages outside/disinfecting them was definitely people grasping at straws early on about how the virus spreads.

I definitely remember experts saying that masks were actually worse than no mask. Which even back then was comical. Like look at countries where mask wearing is accepted (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan). It's obvious it helps. The decision to downplay mask wearing was done so purely to stop people from buying all of the N95's. When what we should have been doing was ramping up production.

Vote in the poll if you want, but this whole topic exists just because I want to complain about quests.

Doing a new playthrough and who thought it would be a good idea to have quests 1) spread out all over town 2) tied to items in dungeons you've already beaten, 3) these items are tied to drops by certain enemies who may or may not be rare.

It's not bad game design or anything, but it's super annoying and terribly dated. It feels like a holdover from a prior generation of JRPG's where people had fun grinding for rare monsters. It's a waste of time and it overlevels you.

these are the quotes that I live for. thank you for doing god's work

Definitely an intentional lie to keep people from panic buying all the masks, coupled with an administration that didn't take this seriously until at least a month too late

Turbografx-16

which is not true! The answer is actually the Ouya.

I totally understand the need to go to a gym. Before the pandemic I went four times a week and it was an essential part of my routine. The endorphins from working out are real and addicting. If you live in a place where you're not blessed with outdoor space, and if you live in a tiny apartment or something, the gym is the only viable alternative for a real workout. And yeah, last I checked Ring Fit is impossible to find or really expensive.

But yeah, if you're gonna go you gotta wear a mask and tone the exertion down accordingly.

I thought DKC was already on there

the fact that they didn't put any of the Final Fantasies or Chrono Trigger on here during the lockdown is either a tremendous missed opportunity or a criminal act

Adol in Smash would be the saltiest thing

main complaint is too many generic anime swordsmen so they add Adol, whose whole gimmick is generic anime swordsman

Doesn't one of those later chapters take literally five minutes to complete and consists of three fights in a train car or something? I remember thinking it was completely inexcusable.

is the logo no longer the raincoat killer? I hope so cause that was a bad logo.

Hopefully it fixes some of the crashing issues. I played DPO on the Switch for the first time this year and it crashed... a lot. Save often.

Leonhart4 posted...

This is indeed what people generally mean by endings, yes. Considering the last five or six chapters in totality as the ending really stretches the idea of endings.

My post is a direct response to your earlier statement that the problem of FFXV is the middle, not the end. If your earlier point was to defend the literal ending of the game, then fine. But I got the distinct impression you were referring to "the last five or six chapters" as "the end."