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Emeraldegg posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

That said, what's the situation?

If it's that he's randomly strong, oh noooo a character in dragon ball got a random power boost this has never happened befooooorrrrrreeee

To be fair, at least with the main characters being who they are, they can wave it off as new transformations. But with 17, it's just "He's suddenly able to go toe to toe with a god of destruction and damage someone stronger than a god of destruction, because plot and we need to add drama to the upcoming sacrifice, despite the last time we saw him he was no match for imperfect cell"

To be fair, I'd agree if we saw 17 every arc and he was losing to weak people. But in Dragon Ball, if somebody is gone for awhile, it's safe to just assume they're going to come back stronger. I mean, we don't know what he was doing all that time other than fighting poachers. Could have been training, whatever. We also don't really know how all the androids can gain power, either.

While non-canon (I believe?), we've already seen from GT that they've intended for 17 to be able to do things that you wouldn't have expected, such as fusing with himself, absorbing power, etc., which means the androids aren't just cut and dry "human with technology."

We already know they have infinite(near infinite?) stamina, which you'd assume would certainly help with training.
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That said, what's the situation?

If it's that he's randomly strong, oh noooo a character in dragon ball got a random power boost this has never happened befooooorrrrrreeee
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StealThisSheen posted...

17 is the best, get out

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CelesMyUserName posted...

the writing of this show is so bad, nothing about 17 makes any sense in the slightest bit

17 is the best, get out
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Kenri posted...

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I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure.

tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago

Anyway to answer, they're comparable as forms of assault/violent control in some cases but there's a difference of degree, and in a generic comparison I'd obviously consider rape far more heinous.

Thank you. Then my "there's something wrong with you if" post certainly does not apply to you.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

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Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop.

that's an interesting definition of torture you have there.

Not at all.

If I punch you to stop you from kicking a child, I'm not torturing you no matter how much pain it caused you.

If they spray you to stop you from destroying something or attacking somebody, they aren't torturing you.

If you've already stopped and they keep doing it, or you weren't doing anything to begin with? Then yes, it's torture.
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Kenri posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure.

tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago

It shouldn't need to be clarified unless you're automatically assuming the worst.

"Rape" is not a normal thing that happens when police are arresting somebody.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i mean, in the opening post we have someone describing getting pepper sprayed as "the spiciest rack of hot wings getting all kinds of thrown in your face while satan stabs you in the eyes with a flaming pitchfork." are we really going to have a serious debate on whether or not it actually qualifies as torture?

The pain could be considered "torture," but the act of pepper spraying somebody is not automatically an act of torturing somebody.

I mean, people often say things like "Man, that test was torture," or "Work was torture today," but that does not literally mean they were being tortured.

The act of torturing somebody has taken on a different meaning than the basic definition.
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Kenri posted...

I'll answer that if you answer whether torture and/or rape fit under the "anything that happens to you" that people deserve for not obeying the police.

No, and I'll freely admit that "anything that happens to you" is too broad. I mean in the course of what would be expected of what SHOULD be normal police procedure. If you fight a cop after committing a crime, then yes, you deserve to be pepper sprayed or tazed. If you try to kill a cop, yes, you deserve to be shot. And so on.

Rape is not something that a normal person would consider as something that would be common to happen while being apprehended by police. Can it happen? Absolutely. But your teacher can rape you, as well. So can a family member, and so on. So just because people who have happened to be police have raped people before, that does not make it fair to lump that in with police procedure.

Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop. Could it be torture? Sure, if you're doing nothing wrong and they're just blasting you for no reason. But if it's used as a deterrent because you are refusing to stop, then no, it's not torture.
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Kenri posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

And you did not deny it. So...?

oh man why would i not dignify your stupid attempt to trap me with a real response man i wonder

lasa's been referring to pepper spray as torture since early in the topic fyi

I'm not trying to trap you, I'm asking a question.

Do you, personally, think pepper spray is torture that is not far off from rape?

You're the one that responded to me first, so I asked for clarification.
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trdl23 posted...

The problem is you're assuming that the people on the receiving end of pepper spray really are dangerous rioters just because the police say they are.

Sometimes, sure, but often it's just hard to believe them.

No, actually, my post is clear that in the question/scenario proposed, they are, in fact, rioters, so...
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

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So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now

if the police is literally torturing you that's not too far off from rape, no.

I asked if we're comparing rape to dealing with the police. Lasa responded with that. I responded that I wasn't talking about literally torturing somebody, to which you responded with

Kenri posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?

...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude

Implying pepper spray IS torture. So unless I'm reading it wrong, you're supporting the thought that pepper spraying is "not far off" from rape. I even asked for clarification

StealThisSheen posted...

Kenri posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?

...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude

So you're okay with comparing rioters being pepper sprayed to somebody being raped?

I'd just like to go full on record here that you're saying rioters being pepper sprayed is literally torture that should be compared to rape.

And you did not deny it. So...?
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There's something seriously wrong with you if you think police pepper spraying rioters that refuse to stop is on the same level as somebody being raped.
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Kenri posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?

...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude

So you're okay with comparing rioters being pepper sprayed to somebody being raped?

I'd just like to go full on record here that you're saying rioters being pepper sprayed is literally torture that should be compared to rape.
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So then, yes, he's completely right.

You have an agenda. Which means you aren't worth a damn to talk to on the subject.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Of course it's not that simple. Lasa has a vendetta and his argument is "you can't be religious and accepting of this book as religion unless you're all in, but bring all I'm is bad so the religion is bad".

...i don't know what this mess of words is supposed to mean but this isn't my argument at all.

Then why are you saying it's nonsensical to not be all in on the Bible?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now

if the police is literally torturing you that's not too far off from rape, no.

Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?

Please show me.

I mean, I'm sorry, but if you're rioting and get pepper sprayed because you refuse to stop rioting, you should be rightfully scorned and ridiculed if you say something like "Saying I shouldn't have resisted is like telling rape victims they shouldn't resist."
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foolm0r0n posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

But if you purposely resist, then you're basically inviting for them to react in whatever way they're going to react

Reminds me of how when being raped the woman is criticized for fighting back because it gives the rapist a reason to be more violent

It's a really cool argument, glad you spent your time typing it up

So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now

We're equating "If you did something wrong and are dealing with the police, you should listen to them/not resist" to "Don't resist when you're being raped."

Cool. I'm out.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Good game with forced terrible controls that make it a bad game. Very sad.

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Suprak the Stud posted...

dowolf posted...

Yeah... Like, unless Pence stood for every anthem accept this one, it's very much a "whatever."

^

As far as I know, Pence didn't stand for any other anthem, so it wasn't like he was taking a stance here.

Actually, he might have been

In Friday's ceremony, Pence was seen sitting near none other than Kim Yo Jong, the younger sister of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

But the vice president, per reports from CBS News and the Associated Press, neither interacted with Jong nor stood to recognize the joint North and South Korea team that entered for the ceremony.

Other reports corroborated the suggestion that Pence and his wife, Karen, were the only people in the VIP press box not to stand in recognition of the Korean Olympic delegation, which marched united for the first time since 2007. And Voice of America later reported that Pence willingly opted to sit in the box, so as to be seen by North Korean officials, rather than simply sit with a delegation of only Team USA representatives.

According to BBC, the vice president, who at one point said he might consider meeting with North Korean officials during his time in South Korea, also skipped an Olympic dinner, where he was "due to share a table with North Korea's ceremonial head of state Kim Yong-nam."

"Mr. Pence and Kim Yong-nam were being hosted by (South Korea) President Moon (Jae-in) before the opening ceremony in Pyeongchang.

But the U.S. vice-president left the reception venue after five minutes, South Korea's Yonhap said.

While Mr. Moon and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe both shook hands with Mr. Kim, Mr. Pence did not, South Korean officials said."

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And just like that, the exclusion from EVO seems like a good idea

Capcom's washing their hands of the game
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Trump isn't releasing the Dem memo

Who is surprised

Anyone?

Bueller?
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He reminds me of a Steve Brule sketch gone horribly, horribly wrong
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neonreaper posted...

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Edelman was unwanted because he was a quarterback from Kent State

C'mon now

As a free agent? 90 catches 900 yards and maybe a single crummy offer from a different team. Whyzat

In all seriousness, my assumption would be that they probably just assumed it was the system
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Jakyl25 posted...

Im still not 100% certain that Trump understands that people from there are 100% natural born American citizens

I'm sure he understands

He just doesn't care because they can't vote for him
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Let it be on record that, for once, SEP tried to stop a stupid troll discussion before it started.
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WazzupGenius00 posted...

Releasing too close to the tournament, and looks to have the same issues people had with MVCI: mostly reused content, slim roster, and unappealing DLC scheme

While true, those have pretty much nothing to do with whether it'd be a good EVO game or not
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Edelman was unwanted because he was a quarterback from Kent State

C'mon now
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

WiggumFan267 posted...

Like I know y'all are gonna say a lot of cities do this, but I don't think they're THIS bad.

Vancouver when they lost was worse.
This one may 'look worse' but that's just a twitter phenomenon.
It's a shame that these things before 2010 are not documented online well. Darn cell phones.

San Francisco in 2014 was pretty bad, too.

Taking the "only Philly does it this bad" attitude is dumb, honestly
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Just think how quickly the hype for Rousey would die down if they got Gronk
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ExThaNemesis posted...

CherryCokes posted...

Not sure if anyone has said it but: the Patriots lost because Ulti jumped the bandwagon

What teams does Trump root for in other sports? We should figure that out now so those fans can prepare in advance

IDK man he jumped on the Warriors wagon too

And they haven't been stopped

I'm surprised he still is on the Warriors train. Trump doesn't like them.
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WazzupGenius00 posted...

There is an official romanization for all Japanese pokemon names IIRC, I assume Bulbapedia lists them somewhere

Given that gen 1 JP got such great names as
Strike
Fire
Thunder
Coil
Ghost AND Ghos

I wouldnt be surprised if it really was officially Polygon in Japan

Bulbapedia says Porygon, which is what I initially went off of. I just didn't know how much stock to put into it.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

I just got wind of the play.

That. Is. Awesome.

davidponte posted...

Do you believe in Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.?

I believe he's a cheating, egotistical docuhebag who doesn't deserve any more rings.

You Cheaters fans do realize that every other NFL fanbase hates your team, right? They are in no way protagonists to anyone. NOBODY but you guys root for them.

Get this out of here. The Patriots fans in here are being just fine.
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Meow1000 posted...

That's a very clear overturn on this one

Never completed the process of the catch

Okay you're 100% wrong on this
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This almost looks done. Eagles currently can't stop shit.
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Meow1000 posted...

It was a pretty clear loss of control and a play that's routinely been called incomplete

Given they gifted the Eagles 4 points, there's no Reftriots this game and no way to argue it

I thought the only game it was flagrant was their game against the Titans

Who officiated that game I wonder

Okay well it wasn't that clear

Dial it back a bit
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davidponte posted...

Eventually the Patriots are going to get stopped, their defense needs to make a play or they aren't winning this game.

Same can be said both ways!
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Metal_DK posted...

It didn't look like a wobble or bobbled catch but him taking an unorthodox position and getting it more snugly into his arm

That last angle shows it clearly slip into the crook of his arm

I'm glad it stood, but it shouldn't have
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Yeah, that actually was a bad call
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I'm now paranoid every ad is a Tide ad
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Fun fact, Prince once said he felt performing alongside a deceased artist via hologram was the most "demonic" idea he'd ever heard.

They actually scrapped the idea to use a hologram for that reason!
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Tide keeps fucking with me
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Does this worry anyone else that it might be releasing this way in order to avoid poor critical reviews? Like a backdoor media blackout.

If it was any other movie, I'd bet money on it

Cloverfield has always been weird, though, in how they hype/release them
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HaRRicH posted...

Original was fine, 10CL was great.

Think the trailor said "very soon."

The trailer on youtube now says "tonight"
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UInstinctGogeta posted...

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StealThisSheen posted...

...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name

I think Porygon and Polygon would both be written as in Japanese. With that said, I don't recall how Japanese Pokemon merchandise or websites would romanize the name.

See, to me personally, that shades it to racist joke...

Because if it's name could be translated as Polygon.... and they went with Porygon....

Yeah.

"It is written with the 4 Katakana characters po-ry-go-n"

Which, yes, can be translated as both "Porygon" and "Polygon." But they didn't go with "Porygon" to be racist, they went with it because the alternative is literally the word polygon

Stop being stupid.
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Yeah. If anything, it would've been racist if they were like "Aww, cute, they're trying to say Polygon" and named it that. >_>
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...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name
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Wait, it Ulti seriously bragging about wrestling stuff literally just weeks after he went into the wrestling topic and called everybody there (and all wrestling fans) trailer park trash that can't handle social interactions
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

on another note
holy, what happened

in 2002 over half the site watched the bowl
now its under 30%?

Talk about gamefaqs having a changing demographic

To be fair, those numbers go down even on sports sites anytime the Patriots are involved
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To be fair, Toppo was pretty handicapped by the fact that he can't kill but that's what his GoD attacks do

More impressive than lame Caulifla anyway!
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