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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 9:52:18 PM
#196
Yeah, that. What MZero said.

There's a difference between, say, bringing up your thoughts in a discussion like this, which is obviously fine, and just randomly deciding "I'm going to obnoxiously proclaim this out of nowhere."

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 9:45:33 PM
#192
If you can't express a controversial opinion respectably, then yeah, you probably shouldn't share that opinion.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 8:48:32 PM
#189
VintageGin posted...
This is a real weird stance. So he's allowed to think it but not tell anyone what he thinks?

I mean... Yeah, kinda.

Like, it's one thing to be discussing it and it comes up. That's fine.

But like the tweet that caused this topic/discussion? That's definitely unnecessary. It's intended to provoke/belittle people. There's no reason to just tell somebody "How you do this is dumb and wrong" out of nowhere if it's something subjective like this.

There are plenty of things we think but shouldn't just outright say to people. I thought my coworker's sweater was hideous, but it's not really my place to go lecture him on how bad his sweater is unless he asks.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 8:31:47 PM
#185
Drakeryn posted...
As one of the people who says that using rewind/save states is (generally) not beating the game, it's not about feeling superior to others. It's more about respecting people's accomplishments.

Like, Harrich beats the carnies every year and I think it's neat that he's got the skill and dedication to do that. I've never played a carnival game in my life, so this is not about me feeling superior to anyone; it's about Harrich, a cool dude. If it somehow turned out that Harrich was, I dunno, bribing the carnies to give him infinite retries or something, it would be a letdown.

I'm specifically referring to people that feel the need to tell others "You didn't beat the game, you cheated," which I believe isn't you. That's where the whole "superiority" issue comes in. If you can just ignore it/not care, or atleast keep it to yourself, then yeah, there's nothing to it.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:21:26 PM
#177
You haven't pointed out where I've directly told the other side "No, YOU haven't beaten the game unless you've used rewind" like you accused me of directly.

You haven't pointed out where we actually attacked somebody who didn't belittle us like you accused us of directly.

You keep refusing to actually back up your argument and instead jump to "Oh you're sOoOoO virtuous!"

In other words, typical Maria.

You don't have substance, so you instantly jump to character attacks.

Have a nice life!

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TopicSo what exactly is bad about Pokemon Sword and Shield?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:16:58 PM
#104
NBIceman posted...
Except this isn't even the case anymore because you can see wild encounters on the field and completely avoid them if you want. Isn't that supposed to be the big lauded new feature that absolves the two Switch Pokemon efforts of all their other problems?

To be fair, the mines show that they can and probably would design dungeons in a way where you don't really have the room to avoid them in certain spots.

Granted, repel exists, so I think wild pokemon were the least of the dungeons' issues, anyway

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:13:05 PM
#175
MariaTaylor posted...
I just did

No, you didn't. You just insulted me.

I'll wait a little bit longer, though.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:12:19 PM
#174
MariaTaylor posted...
you are taking people who don't acknowledge that you beat the game, by their definition, and you are trying to SHAME them into having the same definition as you.

Nobody is doing this.

Nobody got on Drak's case when he said he feels like it isn't beating the game, because he didn't tell somebody "No, the game beat you."

People got on TC's case because he flat out belittled them directly.

The entire discussion is "If you can't stop yourself from telling somebody that they didn't beat a game because they used rewind, you sound like an elitist asshole."

You're acting like because we're not replying to Mike Matei directly, we can't hold that opinion or discuss it, even though somebody literally did it in this topic.

That's really dumb.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:08:13 PM
#169
MariaTaylor posted...
dude lol

you literally have this image in your head of yourself that you are so virtuous, you are somehow comparing yourself to defending gay minorities

read your own posts

So you can't tell me where I'm wrong?

Tell me where I told somebody how they must beat a game like the other side has.

I'll wait.

If your entire argument is that it's not okay to tell people that they shouldn't belittle others, then your argument isn't worth replying to further.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:06:47 PM
#168
Person A: You did this X way so you're stupid.
Person B: Telling people they're stupid for doing things X way makes you sound like an elitist asshole.

Maria: PERSON B HOW DARE YOU

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:05:13 PM
#165
MariaTaylor posted...
so you're saying the difference between you and TC is that he realized he was sounding elitist and was able to admit it, while you're apparently unable to do so.

I'm not telling anybody they didn't beat a game. He did.

Tell me where I'm wrong.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:03:09 PM
#163
MariaTaylor posted...
really?

so you're talking to mike matei in this topic?

or what I said is correct?

choose carefully, only one of these things can be true

In the post where I said the TC sounded like an elitist asshole, which he even admitted could come off that way and apologized for it, he SPECIFICALLY repeated Mike Matei's rhetoric and said "Using rewinds is cheating, so you didn't beat the game, the game beat you."

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 7:00:45 PM
#160
Like, if you like sports better than anime, fantastic.

If you like anime better than sports, fantastic.

But if you feel the need to attempt to belittle the other side because your thing is so much better, then yes, you are an asshole.

Nobody here has once said "Beating games with rewind and savestates is better and the true way to beat games and if you don't use them you didn't beat the game."

But people have specifically said "If you use rewind or savestates you didn't beat the game."

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 6:59:13 PM
#158
MariaTaylor posted...
then you started going into other discussions and talking about how everyone who likes sports more than anime are elitist assholes

That's literally not what's happening.

The discussion in question is that people who feel the need to shout at anime fans that sports are better than anime are elitist assholes.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 6:58:28 PM
#156
MariaTaylor posted...
this is almost verbatim the exact stance you're taking

you're essentially saying that make matei should just 'deal with it' that people are going to use save states, but also in the same exact discussion claim that you aren't doing this

Like, this is crazy.

This is basically saying that if you are attacked for being gay, or black, or liking the color cyan, or being a Miami Dolphins fan, or whatever, you're wrong for defending yourself because you're saying they should just "deal with it."

If just "deal with it" means "Don't go out of your way to belittle people for this," then... Okay? How is that a crazy stance to have?

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 6:56:01 PM
#152
MariaTaylor posted...
this is only a valid position if you are admitting that 'using rewind states is the correct way to play' and feeling that anyone who disagrees with that position is 'attacking you.'

...What? No, not at all. It's saying it's a VALID way to play, since the initial argument is specifically that it isn't.

Defending yourself isn't belittling the other side. If you walk up to a group of people watching anime and go "Watching anime is for gay nerds and makes you less of a man," they aren't then belittling you if they go "No, it doesn't make you a gay nerd or less of a man."

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 6:41:34 PM
#150
MariaTaylor posted...
but aren't you doing the exact same thing?

...Not really?

One side is specifically going to the other side and saying "Yo you didn't really beat the game because you used rewind."

The other side isn't going to the first side and going "Yo I beat the game with rewind and you have to acknowledge it and lick my balls."

This didn't start because somebody forcibly made Mike Matei watch them beat Zelda 1 with rewind while shocking him with a taser every time he tried to look away. This started because Mike Matei specifically felt the need to attempt to belittle other people.

It's a specific case where one side is trying to assert their superiority/opinion over the other side when it wasn't asked for, while the other side is defending themselves when they shouldn't have to in the first place.

As for the rest, is it not natural for people to want to defend themselves when they've randomly been attacked or belittled, or when they see somebody being attacked or belittled?

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TopicSo what exactly is bad about Pokemon Sword and Shield?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 6:33:55 PM
#98
I may be in the minority, but I don't really miss the dungeons.

Move three steps, trainer battle. Move three steps, teleport or HM or card key puzzle. Move three steps, trainer battle. Move three steps, teleport or HM or card key puzzle.

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TopicSo what exactly is bad about Pokemon Sword and Shield?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 12:48:32 AM
#31
I think things like raid battles and easier entry into competitive battling go a long way in giving it better legs than previous games.

If you only play Pokemon for the main story I guess I could see you being disappointed.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/30/19 12:39:51 AM
#132
lordjers posted...
I don't think you can get social value out of beating games lol. Not since school at least. It's more of a personal satisfaction.

Then wouldn't you agree it's rather weird to somehow feel your own personal satisfaction is hurt just because somebody didn't beat a game the way you think they should have?

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 11:26:53 PM
#112
lordjers posted...
It ain't wrong though, or what do you think about calling the other side judgemental, or elitist, or deciding what's fun or not.

I did that and he even admitted the post in question was, so, uh...?

Sounds like you're the one that's triggered, friend.

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TopicSo what exactly is bad about Pokemon Sword and Shield?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 11:12:38 PM
#13
NBIceman posted...
Turns out they imported models from Sun and Moon, so the first part was just a complete lie,

This is actually not a fair description of it.

They imported the meshes, which is common, but most everything else was new. There was a link of somebody comparing everything that goes into it, and there's a lot of different shading and maps that changed.

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TopicSo what exactly is bad about Pokemon Sword and Shield?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 11:10:19 PM
#12
Underleveled posted...
If it's a really important aspect of the series to someone, I don't get why it's "whining." I've even seen people who aren't bothered by it admit that that there are reasons why it's a legitimate complaint. I've seen people bash/boycott things for much pettier reasons without this kind of resistance from the fanbase. It almost feels like they're saying "it's Pokemon, shut up and enjoy it," which to me is much worse than "I'm not going to play it because they removed something important to me."

As for me, I've largely fallen out of love with the series. The only game from Gen V and beyond that I finished was Y. Now, I still LOVE everything before that and still go back to it, but the new stuff is just, whatever. The lack of National Dex was just the final nail in the coffin for me on this one.

I think it's because a lot of people that whine about the Natdex being gone are kinda insufferable about it. They say Pokemon is "dead" and anybody buying it is "cancer" and blahblahblah, and then nitpick every single thing just to try and argue that the game is objectively garbage. Thus, a very vocal, toxic part of the community blew up a legit complaint into something ridiculous that people are just much more likely to roll their eyes at.

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TopicPokemon Sword/Shield Discussion Topic - Part 2
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 9:36:53 PM
#399
Only shiny I ever encountered was a Swablu in Sapphire

And I wasn't paying attention and didn't know what color it was supposed to be to know it was shiny since it was the first one I ever saw

So I killed it

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 8:45:00 PM
#103
Drakeryn posted...
It's not really about fear of internet police, it's just how I would view it for myself.

If I were playing an old RPG that didn't have a save point before a long final boss sequence, and after a long final dungeon, then I would use save states and not feel bad. I beat that game.

On the other hand, for a skill-based game like Crypt of the Necrodancer or Touhou, I might use stage select or continues (or rewinds, if those existed) for practice; but I wouldn't consider myself to have truly beaten the game unless I cleared it all in one go with no saves/rewinds/etc.

Well, right, but that's different than the people who are bothered by other people using rewind/save states.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 255: A Holiday Present From Tulsi
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 8:40:16 PM
#262
Remember when he was like "If you're just gonna call me a racist/antisemite/etc., I'll just act like one!"

He took that as an excuse to just go full steam ahead with it and be the biggest piece of shit that he can

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TopicPokemon Sword/Shield Discussion Topic - Part 2
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 8:31:49 PM
#391
Yeah, Zamazenta is awesome

Zacian is just a dog with a sword which I guess appeals to furries

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 7:08:22 PM
#95
I mean if they're worried about being the "best" then that is already long gone because speedrunners abuse savestates to practice challenging sections instead of restarting the level/game/whatever when they die, but that has nothing to do with just beating the game normally.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 7:00:20 PM
#93
It's kinda wild to me that there is apparently a fairly common fear that there is this large contingent of people out there who beat games with save states, go "Yeah, I beat it, better than anybody else who has ever beaten it," and then the internet police is going to come knock on your door and go "Sorry, sir, but your previous claim of beating Mario 1 is now invalid because somebody beat it with save states."

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 5:35:29 PM
#82
wg64Z posted...
Right. Except not because one way you cheated. So the game beat you.

This is 100% belittling, though, so, uh...

You're acting like an elitist asshole, dude.

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TopicIf you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 5:28:16 PM
#80
wg64Z posted...
Really at the end of the day just consider completion based on your own criteria. The poll was mostly curiosity of where the majority lies. If you think cheating in a game is totally fine and you consider it beaten proper, all the power to you. I personally like a challenge in my games, and wouldnt consider a game beaten if I cheated. But theres no gate keeping or refereeing going on.

I mean you're literally calling it cheating and making it a big deal that the person "cheated" by using rewind/whatever, when it's an option that was included with the game itself and not the player actually using some kind of cheat device, so you very clearly are trying to gatekeep and "referee" because you're constantly belittling everyone else.

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TopicGaming purchase regrets of the year.
StealThisSheen
12/29/19 12:05:13 AM
#73
swordz9 posted...
I dont know how long they spent developing it in fairness. The last console LoZ I played was TP and I still havent played most of them yet. It just didnt feel like a finished product to me, but if thats how they intentionally designed the game I dont even know what to say. It might not have felt so bad though if I hadnt just finished 2 other games that also felt unfinished (KH3 and Pokemon Sword/Shield)

Your argument kinda just sounds like you don't personally like the game but you're trying to call it unpolished and unfinished in order to argue it's objectively bad for some reason

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TopicB8 DBZ Dokkan Battle topic: His name was Krillin!!!
StealThisSheen
12/25/19 10:07:47 PM
#425
Tickets didn't get me anything good but I bought GoBros with coins so yay

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TopicGaming purchase regrets of the year.
StealThisSheen
12/24/19 10:42:24 PM
#37
Indivisible is a bad game and I may never forgive B8

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TopicI am getting married. Hooray.
StealThisSheen
12/23/19 1:43:18 AM
#8
Congrats!

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Topic~Fight!~ Kevin McAllister* vs 1 Million Supermen
StealThisSheen
12/23/19 1:15:34 AM
#3
Kevin always runs into some old person that helps him out when he needs it most

What if that person ends up being Lex Luthor

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 255: A Holiday Present From Tulsi
StealThisSheen
12/23/19 1:04:50 AM
#49
Jakyl25 posted...
Cap punches Nazis instead of hearing both sides though

Can I vote for him twice

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 255: A Holiday Present From Tulsi
StealThisSheen
12/23/19 12:31:42 AM
#38
When Captain America nominates people with no qualifications to positions we just get Hawkeye which is much less damaging than what we currently get

Captain America '20

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 255: A Holiday Present From Tulsi
StealThisSheen
12/23/19 12:29:52 AM
#35
Where do I vote for The Avengers

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TopicWhat ever we all know it was Maggie who shot mr bruns
StealThisSheen
12/22/19 11:22:46 PM
#3
Bro don't joke it was Smithers

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 255: A Holiday Present From Tulsi
StealThisSheen
12/22/19 11:19:21 PM
#14
But also be a smart participant please

My parents get 2-3 calls about Bernie every night trying to get them to sign up to call other people, and they're always like "Well Bernie has two votes in this house but we just don't have the time to be making calls" and so on.

And then the next night the calls are basically "Do you have time now?" to the point that they're getting super put off by it

Bombarding older people with calls is not what you should be doing.

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TopicJump Festa 2020 video game trailers
StealThisSheen
12/22/19 7:53:33 PM
#11
Yeah, what's the problem with Ardyn? We knew they were gonna add an FFXV antagonist eventually.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
StealThisSheen
12/19/19 10:59:23 PM
#480
SmartMuffin posted...
You think 16 years in prison is an appropriate punishment for stealing an item that costs <$20?

Actually it would've been a maximum of 5 years for that charge, but he's a habitual offender. He's got nobody to blame for the extended sentence but his own dumbassery.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
StealThisSheen
12/19/19 10:52:38 PM
#479
It's okay. She did another tweet clarifying that she was not making fun of anybody with a speech impediment.

Whew. Glad that's cleared up!

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TopicWho are the best characters with trench coats?
StealThisSheen
12/19/19 1:51:13 AM
#7
Dick Tracy

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
StealThisSheen
12/19/19 12:55:27 AM
#333
"I'm taking this time for myself to be able to review everything that's happened, all the information that's been put forward," Gabbard said at Furman University. "And just all the factors that go into really trying to figure out what is the best action to take for our country. And for democracy. It's not a simple or easy decision to make."

"After doing my due diligence in reviewing the 658-page impeachment report, I came to the conclusion that I could not in good conscience vote either yes or no," Gabbard said in a statement from her presidential campaign after the vote.

Yes, she did her due diligence so thoroughly that she decided upon a very firm "maybe."

Get out of here, Gabbard.

"It's not a simple or easy decision to make. So I didn't make one."

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
StealThisSheen
12/18/19 9:12:38 PM
#248
The "present" votes are just so, so Tulsi, and it's why I've had zero respect for her this entire time.

She has no conviction whatsoever. She'll change her stance by the hour to cater to what she thinks will get her the most votes. She didn't want to vote Yes so she can rally people from the far right with "I didn't support impeachment!" But then she didn't have the courage to vote no, either, so anybody who's got a brain cell in their skull will see through what she did.

Unless you're Muffin, of course.

She's a spineless snake who says and does only what she thinks is going to benefit her at the time. Look at all the fucking waffling she does over shit like this and whether she'll boycott debates or not, back and forth, and all the whining and shit and then she refuses to actually make a statement herself and just votes "present."

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 253: Scot Free
StealThisSheen
12/18/19 8:34:49 PM
#218
Fuck Tulsi Gabbard

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TopicWhy is FF8s writing so poor compared to its generational siblings
StealThisSheen
12/18/19 6:27:54 PM
#27
Djungelurban posted...
Ok fine, it's an explanation on the level that the story in The Happening is "explained". It existing doesn't make it any less contrived and/or silly.

I mean it sounds like you just didn't understand it so

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TopicBest All-Purpose Wrestling Topic of the Decade, Part 492
StealThisSheen
12/15/19 10:52:06 PM
#287
Yeah, if you pause click through the slow mo you can see neither monitor hits her at all. She's in front of the table next to them, not that one.

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