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swordz9 posted...

I imagine the order the parents thoughts go would be:

"What the hell is a Bumblebee?"
"Oh the robot guy"
"What do you mean there's a Superhero girl called Bumblebee?"

Maybe more parents know Transformers than I give them credit for, but I'd be amazed if most even knew the Superhero one at all.

Well, parents don't have to know the superhero one at all if they don't know what Bumblebee is, period. Hasbro's case isn't "The parents may know the superhero and get that." It's basically "They may not know what Bumblebee is, period, and so having more than one could cause them to get the wrong one."
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Basically, it comes down to this:

What Hasbro needs to do to win:
"If a kid tells their parent they want Bumblebee for their birthday, the parent could see something black and yellow named Bumblebee and buy it, and it may be the DC toy."

What DC needs to do to win:
"There can't possibly be any confusion. A kid would say key words like "He" or "Robot" for Hasbro's Bumblebee, thus making the parent aware that our Bumblebee isn't the same thing."

I'd HOPE the latter would win, but Hasbro has the much easier case to make since they have the trademark, and often it doesn't ever get further than that.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Pretty sure Bumblebee isn't enough of a wholly original name that they can claim full ownership over it. Especially since they're two wildly different characters.

What's most strange about this is where the hell did this even come from? It's not like Bumblebee is getting any more use in comics and media than she ever did before.

1. Hasbro literally has the trademark for Bumblebee, so they not only can but already did claim ownership over it. >_>

2. New line of DC toys has Bumblebee
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swordz9 posted...

I don't think they will have a hard time showing the difference. One is literally a black girl who can shrink and wears a bee costume while the other is a giant robot that spends some time as a car. It would be like confusing Batman with a ninja turtle or something

Hasbro has a decent shot if they argue "People may think it's a version/different take of Bumblebee, and if the quality is bad/etc. it could hurt our rep."
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"Now, Hasbro does hold the actual trademark for Bumblebee, which they filed on July 15, 2015. It was officially registered on December 22nd of that year, and though the DC Comics character predates the Transformer (1977 vs.1983), that trademark might be an issue for the studio."

Like, this means Hasbro has a 99% chance of winning.

The only way DC wins is if they manage to go "Come on, the trademark shouldn't matter. They're so different that nobody could confuse them" convincingly enough.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

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scarletspeed7 posted...

Yeah this is going to fail so badly. Bumblebee the chick debuted first.

Doesn't matter

when it comes to the toy aisle, Hasbro has Bumblebee trademark

is that actually how stuff works?

can/should DC sue to stop comics like this:

https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/980027.jpg

because they have the Bumbleebee of the comics realm?

What matters most isn't what existed first, but which trademark came first.
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This is a million times better than either of those

"Crazy cat lady" is nowhere near as bad as the farting
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Solioxrz362 posted...

Rock, why do you think Sasha Banks can't wrestle? She's put on plenty of great matches to show you that she can wrestle. She's not the greatest talker, but you're being way over-critical of her.

Alexa is not bad in the ring either, she's just not good. Like, they're both "okay" at worst.

Rock typo'd. He meant Sasha can wrestle.

I'm the one that's overly critical of her, since she went from "Good wrestler" to "Same contrived, sometimes dangerous spots every time" over time
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I was wrong

I'm not sure if I'm happy
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This is horrible

I want Sasha to lose because she's turrible

But I don't want Alexa to win because I hate when they hot potato the belt

Gross

Granted, I assume Sasha wins since she typically looks pissed off in her entrance when she's about to lose and she didn't

Still gross
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Roman held his own on his part just fine. Cena was just brutal and went for the jugular right after.
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Guys, at No Mercy, they're going to be halfway through the match and then suddenly realize that they could be burying other people instead of each other

And then they'll form a team managed by Triple H and literally bury everybody
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This is what Reigns needed
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...If that's all the characters, gross.
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Johnbobb posted...

"You told everyone I died. Then you sold my dog for tickets to a Lil Pump concert."

I don't care if it's fake. That guy wins.
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Rehab approach depends entirely on what's actually wrong with it
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Peace___Frog posted...

I hope it was too, but to be frank i don't think the intentions matter much in the grand scheme of things

I meant it like, I hope the missile breaking into pieces over the ocean is not how North Korea wanted it to go. Like I hope their missiles are that shitty.

As opposed to it being some sort of intentional tri-missile intended to break apart to enter the water to awaken Godzilla or something.

You fool. No such thing would awaken Godzilla.

Three missile parts. Three heads.

They're awakening King Ghidorah so that when they really do attack Japan, they have something at the ready to fight off Godzilla should he choose to defend them.
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Pics or it didn't happen
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I gotta go with the giraffes, personally.

The elephant is the obvious "Most dangerous enemy in the room." It's gonna get ganged up on early. Once it goes down, there's literally nothing to stop the giraffes from kicking everything to death.
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I still contend that samurai are heavily overrated. These aren't "Studly warriors with sharpest weapon ever" samurai like in movies. These are 5'3", under 100 pound dudes with not too good weapons.
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pjbasis posted...

People aren't nostalgic for old tv, especially non-animated, since it was just shitty sitcoms and episodic crime shows until like 10 years ago.

We'll start seeing breaking bad and LOST revivals soon enough.

What
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Yeah, that sounds like poor writing for what Light is supposed to be, but good writing for what this Light is
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I don't really think the "Who cares what this group did, focus on this one instead" tactic is a very good one, so I don't really feel the need to continue this discussion.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

If you don't see how Ulti complimenting people and "holding them in higher regard" is him trying to get them to go to bat for him when he says he's "Changed" for the billionth time, I don't think you've figured much out about Ulti in all those years.

I'm not talking about his circlejerk crew, and it goes back before the "I've changed" routine. Ulti banks on as much predictability from those who criticize him as he himself shows.

It's an Ulti tactic he's been using for years. He'll be nice to a few people that oppose him, then go "I've been good. Just ask ____."

He did it to me a few years back.

Now he has blocked me since I never played ball.
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tazzyboyishere posted...

I have not heard of antifa. Can you explain?

They're a group of terrorists that commits violent crimes and murders against those they see as intolerant.

Serious question since I don't really know: Has antifa actually killed anyone?

I don't think any of the rocks Antifa has indiscriminately thrown into crowds of people or clubs swung at people's heads have yielded deaths yet. But at Charlottesville, they broke someone's leg and permanently blinded someone, and hospitalized a few others. They advocate for a "diversity of tactics," which means committing acts of violence and vandalism.

http://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statment-on-strategy-and-tactics-for-june-4th-rally/
https://kitoconnell.com/2017/07/10/diversity-tactics-gonzo-notes/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/anti-racist-antifa-tinley-park-five/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_of_tactics

They're not good people.

Which is fair, to say they're not good people. But I don't really think it's fair to say "Group of terrorists that commits murders" if they haven't actually murdered anybody. Like, the Charlottesville stuff is certainly bad, yeah, but it shouldn't be used to take away from a group that ACTUALLY killed somebody in Charlottesville.
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houston goddamn

I heard that they've been getting 4 inches of rain per hour. That's a lot of fucking rain

some of the pictures are just nuts. here's a quick twitter search

https://twitter.com/gearmeister/status/901912952118415360
https://twitter.com/andreawinning/status/901888901085884416
https://twitter.com/euzkera/status/901883991741091840
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/901877299867303936
https://twitter.com/glowindolan/status/901868204817047558
https://twitter.com/javkie_jackie/status/901862215522897922

...On that first one, I literally assumed the picture hadn't loaded all the way when I only saw the top of the car. Then it began playing and I realized it was video.
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If you don't see how Ulti complimenting people and "holding them in higher regard" is him trying to get them to go to bat for him when he says he's "Changed" for the billionth time, I don't think you've figured much out about Ulti in all those years.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Because Seph's "bait" still has a logical line of discussion behind it, even if it's pretty buried, since it's typically close to what he actually believes.

are you sure?

mind you that me calling sephy a troll is actually giving him the benefit of the doubt - he's a fucking terrible person if half the shit he says is "close to what he actually believes." i hope he's not being somewhat genuine when he says shit like "i'm bloodthirsty for a new war."

I'm sure he exaggerates, sometimes greatly. Like, I doubt he actually wants a new war. But wanting and benefiting from war itself is definitely a Republican towline, yes.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Seph's trolling is basically like being a fan of a rival sports team. If you're a Steelers fan and they beat the Ravens, you're going to troll Ravens fans, and vice-versa. It may suck to be the one that lost/is being trolled, but you still get where it's coming from. His has atleast some modicum of belief behind it. I'm not sure I'd say that makes him "reasonable," but it puts him a tier above Ulti, for sure.

fair enough, but responding to sephy is still taking bait.

if "taking ulti's bait" is such a big deal, why is taking sephy's bait fine?

Because Seph's "bait" still has a logical line of discussion behind it, even if it's pretty buried, since it's typically close to what he actually believes.

Ulti either doesn't believe what he's actually saying, or is a terrible person who will use anything he can to troll, anyway, so there's literally nothing of value there.
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There's a difference, though.

Ulti's flat out a troll with no actual beliefs who is only doing it because people respond to it

Seph's trolling is basically like being a fan of a rival sports team. If you're a Steelers fan and they beat the Ravens, you're going to troll Ravens fans, and vice-versa. It may suck to be the one that lost/is being trolled, but you still get where it's coming from. His has atleast some modicum of belief behind it. I'm not sure I'd say that makes him "reasonable," but it puts him a tier above Ulti, for sure.
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I think equating Seph to Ulti is pretty unfair

Seph is atleast pretty consistent on where he stands, whether we agree with it or not. Sure, he trolls sometimes, but that's not really his specific gameplan. It's more of a "bonus" to him since we oppose his ideals and vice-versa.

Ulti literally doesn't have any stance other than whatever is opposite of us. He's a man with literally no backbone who gets his jollies by trolling and nothing more, yet then panics when he realizes his trolling may no longer work because people are ignoring him, and thus tries his "I'm good now I swear" acts. It's outright enabling him to actually reply to him, and he's not going to stop if he thinks people are listening.
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Feeling like we need to somehow "educate lurkers on why Ulti's stupid and wrong" is also dumb, though.

Like, that's just an excuse to take his bait
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HaRRicH posted...

If you ask the topic to quote certain information, you should also show respect when the topic asks you not to quote certain information. Be cool.

This so much.

You have people nice enough to quote Twitter posts for you when they really shouldn't be, yet they ask you not to quote Ulti and you basically go "Fuck you, he doesn't bother me"
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Mac Arrowny posted...

tazzyboyishere posted...

I have not heard of antifa. Can you explain?

They're a group of terrorists that commits violent crimes and murders against those they see as intolerant.

Serious question since I don't really know: Has antifa actually killed anyone?
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For those saying "But real raptors were the size of turkeys," are you also accounting for the normal height/weight of real samurai? You've got 2-3 foot tall raptors, sure... But they're against slim men only reaching about 5'3" in height. It doesn't take much to knock down a sub-100 pound, 5 foot guy. A 30 pound raptor ought to do it.
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Vlado posted...

I checked, and I provided a clear enough evidence that Ulti is right, and you're wrong. If you're then reduced to arguing semantics, when the point was pretty clear from the get-go, then you might as well admit you were wrong.

Yes, it is 100% clear what Ulti's point was from the get-go.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I prefer the term "new right". Alt right is a term invented by Hillary and Podesta to label their opposition, of which there are some actual nazis. New Right is just a Trump-style republican.

You can apologize any time. I don't mind waiting.
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Vlado posted...

Why do you argue about this when it can be easily checked? Let's see...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%22alt%20right%22

The first big spike is after clinton's speech, the second one is after the elections.

Therefore, Ulti is right.

Might wanna check again, there.

Ulti said the term "alt-right" was MADE UP by Clinton and Podesta, not that they brought it into the mainstream. He may have back-pedaled into the latter a bit, but his first claim is easily verified false.
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SmartMuffin posted...

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It's too early to say Nintendo is forcing a shortage, here. We won't know that until we see when/if they actually do restocks. Preorders were always going to be this way. You can only guarantee so many day one.

like 99% of things that are made do not sell out in advance of existing

literally the only reason pre-orders are this way is because the thing is underpriced AND nintendo has a long and proven track record of under-producing

Didn't every modern day system sell out in preorders.

I'm not talking new versions of existing systems. But like, video game systems have a pretty decent history of "selling out in advance of existing."

Phones do, too.

Like, this seems pretty common with electronics.
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LapisLazuli posted...

No, sorry, 1 month. That was only 1 month after the launch of Twitter.

Where is your source for that statistic?

It's a typo. It's August 25th, 2016

Ulti believes "Alt-right" wasn't a term before August 25th, 2016.
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It's too early to say Nintendo is forcing a shortage, here. We won't know that until we see when/if they actually do restocks. Preorders were always going to be this way. You can only guarantee so many day one.
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They could still get up to about 3 feet, which is more than big enough to take out these samurai.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

trdl23 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

I prefer the term "new right". Alt right is a term invented by Hillary and Podesta to label their opposition, of which there are some actual nazis. New Right is just a Trump-style republican.

You're not even trying anymore.

The term alt right was not in mainstream vernacular before this speech:

And what I said is both in the wikileaks and a direct Saul Alinsky tactic of labeling opposition.

"Paul Gottfried was the first person to use the term "alternative right", when referring specifically to developments within American right-wing politics, in 2008.[5] The term has since gained wide currency with the rise of the so-called "alt-right". White supremacist[6] Richard Spencer coined the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism, and did so according to the Associated Press to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, and neo-Nazism."

I know, I know. "Don't respond to Ulti" and all that. But dude, you should reeeeally try being less wrong.
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Lightning Strikes posted...

For what it's worth I think the first act is the weakest by far. After reflecting on it I actually like the third act quite a lot.

Also this version of Light is more edgelord school shooter. Although, I'm not American, but are there really not preppy golden boy types there?

There are, but I certainly wouldn't call Light a "preppy golden boy" type. When I think of a preppy golden boy type, I think of somebody that thinks they're above everybody/superior/etc., yeah... But it stops far before the "Cleanse the filth/play God" parts come in. The "preppy golden boy" type is basically somebody that's a douchebag, but relatively harmless.
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That's fair enough

Iunno. It just seems odd to me to so easily "I don't give a shit about my dad" but then wonder why and actually be hurt by extended family not giving much thought to you. Seems like that'd just be something to easily distance from.
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I'm sorry the situation happened, but I mean... Right after telling about how they don't care about you, you told about how you don't care about your dad. Like, "They're just fake to me." and "Oh I'm fake about caring about my dad" being side by side posts makes it seem like this is just a thing with you and your family in general. >_>
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So I asked about a dozen big Trump supporters in Eastern Kentucky today why they think Trump is a good President

One said "He's doing something about the illegals"
The other eleven all said "Jobs!"

So I asked those eleven what they thought of the fact that the unemployment rate for our area is up since last year

Three of them said "Fake news"
Two gave anecdotes about how So-and-so Jones that they know got a job, so they must be up
The other six said Congress is obstructing Trump

So I asked how that could be, since Congress is Republican controlled

Four of them said they'd be fine with hanging any Republicans who voted against Trump
Two of them just said "It doesn't matter. Jobs!"

In conclusion, I hate where I live.
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Johnbobb posted...

Is Crypt of the Necrodancer ever not on sale?

Honestly, this has kinda kept me from trying it

When a game is as perpetually discounted as it is, it makes me wary
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I think the fact Neopets actually has a listing on this site automatically means it's considered more of a game than Homestuck is
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http://imgur.com/gallery/6flYH

Some of you have probably already seen this, but this is a neat little bit of somebody looking into one of those "Putinbots" on Twitter
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SupremeZero posted...

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If you're that interested in what Ulti has to say, just click the stupid Twitter link. It's not going to kill you. You shouldn't need people to transcribe them for you just because "I don't do Twitter"

It might. What if it has a seizure-inducing video.

Well then it wouldn't get posted because the person who would've posted it would instead be having a seizure

Checkmate
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