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Snivy
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SupremeZero posted...

Is Nanis the guy in that twitter.

Is that what's going on here.

Seems like it

lol nanis
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Nanis23 posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Except he (and you) don't seem to understand that basic terminology doesn't change to reflect every specific situation.

If it did then it wouldn't be basic terminology.

Except it's isn't for a specific situation, it doesn't fit any game other than Street Fighter

So you're saying the "fireball" motion only exists in Street Fighter?

Almost every single fighting game uses that kind of motion. And 90% of the time, it's for a projectile. So instead of people saying "Down, down-right, forward," or "Quarter-circle forward," they just say "Fireball forward." It doesn't matter whether it's actually a fireball in that particular game or not, it's referring to the motion and the move that made it famous.

There is no "He's right," here.

For anybody 100% new to fighting games, "Quartercircle forward" or "qcf" isn't going to make any more sense to them. So why not use the term that the FGC uses? You still have to explain it either way.
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MZero11 posted...

strong deny

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Well, you have to remember. This isn't 1 Elephant. It's 1 GameFAQs Elephant.

Its skin is 5 inch thick titanium and its trunk is a flamethrower
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

I'm honestly surprised that everyone is arguing with Metal_DK on this point, and that he has to provide sources to prove that people lie and exaggerate on the internet. Or people are just trolling.

Nobody argued that people don't lie/exaggerate on the internet.

The argument was over the fact that Metal_DK just instantly handwaved foolmo's specific anecdote and told him "They're lying to you."
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Lion literally goes straight for the throat and the giraffe is just like "lol no u"

Obviously, elephants are bigger than lions

But 25 giraffes all kicking at the same elephant. Giraffes can kick in any direction. With 2000 psi kicks. And their hooves are sharp.
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I'll go Pokemon, since those were the first cards I ever collected. Might as well stick with childhood firsts!
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StealThisSheen posted...

Speed Racer?

Correct!

That came to me only because it was mine, too, and I knew SOMEBODY else had said it. >_>
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Speed Racer?
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Yeah, there was atleast believable logic for the wolves (Pack vs solitary hunters)

This one is just... What
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Wow people are dumb

It's twenty-five giraffes

A few lions can take down an elephant. They're not this indestructible tank that people seem to think they are.
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...So Enzo's on 205 Live now. That's a thing.
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Corbin has quite the choice, here! Which will he choose?!

A. Owens
B. Styles
C. The Miz

"I'll choose D. Get buried."
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All they really had to do was make sure they displayed his name as Robert "Not the guy you're thinking of. I swear to you, I'm Asian and not 150 years old" Lee.
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Seriously, though, Carmella's looks good compared to American Alpha making their singlets out of Grandma's curtains
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My hands are up! Look at them, they're up! I'm nowhere near that one!
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

makes sense, it is very offensive to remind anyone of Mad TV cast member Bobby Lee

...Okay, well NOW I'm triggered
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/900116610668797957

Lmfao. I bet you Kenri or someone defends this.

This is just dumb
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Didn't Corbin learn already that he has difficulty doing things three times
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I also like the idea of Roode seeing a literal spotlight on somebody else and going "Nope, can't have that."
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I actually do like this Zayn dynamic added to it
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Jinder's actually not a bad talker at all when he's being arrogant. It's when he tries to get upset or intense that he kinda falls apart.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I think the real test is more if there are restocks.

The NES Classic never even got restocks, did it?

The local Gamestop restocked like... Three times?

Very few each time, though.
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Dark Young Link posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

The real test is seeing how big and how often restocks are once this thing is actually out

My faith in Nintendo is rather shaken right now, unfortunately.

Oh, it absolutely should be

Hopefully they turn things around
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Here's the thing... Preorders selling out isn't necessarily indicative of stock issues, since you can only guarantee so many units on Day 1

The real test is seeing how big and how often restocks are once this thing is actually out
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Didn't people start calling him misogynist after Avengers 2 for some reason?

Because Black Widow started playing "mom" to the Avengers or something

I dunno I thought it was a dumb argument
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Charlotte: 4 reigns, 246 days
Bliss: 1 reign, 112 days
Sasha Banks: 4 reigns, 77 days
Bayley: 1 reign, 76 days

This looks even worse when it's written out
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I hope it's midnight EST and not PST or else I can't get it
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TheRock1525 posted...

Lopen posted...

Tl;dr Applying a double standard to your perception of men's strength vs women's strength is more sexist than acknowledging a woman is hot, so check yourself.

Except I don't have double standards.

If Roman Reigns started doing chokehold STOS to Braun I'd bitch about that, too.

I think comparing the difference between Reigns and Braun to the difference between Bliss and Sasha is pretty silly.

Braun is 5 inches taller and 120 pounds heavier.
Sasha is 4 inches taller and only 6 pounds heavier.

There's a liiiiittle bit of a difference, there.
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I think the best thing we can all get out of this discussion is that Braun is the greatest
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

I do think it's a bit unfair to crack on Roman only for last night. He and Joe basically did the same thing.

Roman punched, did the spear, and did the Samoan drop
Joe choked, and did like, one or two other moves

But 90% of their offense was the punch and choke

Yeah, Joe underwhelmed, but I think the choke is a lot more exciting than Roman's silly punches since there's a lot more drama involved. So it's like, if something exciting is happening and Joe interrupts it with a choke, then it's oh shit, he's choking him out! Is he going down!? Will he break out!? How will he escape!? When Roman interrupts with a punch he either continues to punch people or goes to his little corner and howl to prepare for a Spear. There's like no drama there or excitement. Doing that literally ends the excitement.

Roman's role in every single multi-person match is to be the buzz kill. He stops other people from doing cool stuff just by running up and punching them. And it wouldn't be so noticeable if they didn't have Roman in multi-person matches so often.

To be fair, I think the choke comes off worse in multiman matches like last night, since it's like... Why are you wasting all this time trying to make this dude pass out. You've had plenty of time to hit a move and pin this guy twice in the time that it took you to fail to choke him out.
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I don't remember if it was this topic or Politics

And I don't remember who said it

But I just want to say that "Don't call them all nazis, guys. Some people might just be there to troll!" is possibly the worst argument I've ever seen on this board for anything.

And I follow Mercs
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I have been swayed

The tigers win it

It has been decreed
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And yeah, agree on Roode, AoP, and Moon.

I don't see how they don't move Moon up. It was a kinda clear... She's never gonna beat Asuka situation, so keeping her in NXT would just cause her to stagnate
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I do think it's a bit unfair to crack on Roman only for last night. He and Joe basically did the same thing.

Roman punched, did the spear, and did the Samoan drop
Joe choked, and did like, one or two other moves

But 90% of their offense was the punch and choke
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TheRock1525 posted...

Or I'm just not a fan of the tiniest woman in the WWE having such a powerful grip she can force her opponents backwards, then bring them towards her before finally tripping them.

And considering that video matches what I remember quite well, something tells me that's more often how it goes down.

She was a competitive fitness model/body builder. She's likely one of the strongest women on the roster. And she actually looks strong, as opposed to no abs Sasha, as somebody already brought up.

Not to mention her gig is "Five Feet of Fury," so her being aggressive and having bursts of strength fits with the character.

Like, you're literally just writing it off because she's short. >_>
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I think when it gets right down to it, I agree with Lopen. At this current moment, I'd take an Alexa match over a Sasha or Bayley match. Alexa's not as talented, technique-wise and all that, but her character really shines in matches. She's the only one that has offense that makes sense and actually feels like her. Sasha and Bayley just tend to set up for big spots that are flashy and bump up the star rating, but half of the time don't even make sense.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

I come here to talk about the main event four-way and we are embroiled in a discussion about who is a better worker between Alexa Bliss and Alicia Fox.

To be fair, there's not much to say about the main event.

It was fantastic.

Now we just gotta see where it goes.
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TheRock1525 posted...

I'd say the women's division has largely taken a step back thanks to Alexa. It was definitely in a better place when Charlotte and Sasha were headlining it.

Like say what you will about hot potatoing the belt, but the audience was pretty damn invested into two quality female wrestlers going at each other on a nightly basis.

Now the division is pretty meh thanks to some bad booking and a mediocre champ.

Alexa's like, the only thing people are invested in, now. It's not her that hurt the division. It's things like "Bayley this is your life" storylines.
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Actually I'll accept Alicia Fox being a decent worker

But Naomi what
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TheRock1525 posted...

When people like Sasha, Charlotte, Becky, Bayley, Natalya, Naomi, Emma and hell even Alicia Fox are better workers,

Okay what
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TheRock1525 posted...

I'm not following what you're saying at all.

What you're saying is that if somebody says "Atleast Heath Slater won," they're saying that nothing else matters because Heath Slater won. That no matter how bad the match was, how short, how convoluted, whatever... They like it because Heath Slater won.

I'm saying that if I say "Atleast Heath Slater won," I'm acknowledging it as the only highlight of an otherwise bad match. I'm still saying the match sucked, I'm not saying I liked it... I'm just saying that I'm pleased about that one specific thing: That Heath Slater won. It doesn't override everything else, it's just the lone positive.

Like, I'm using "atleast" to mean "at the least." I'm not sure how that's crazy. >_>
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TheRock1525 posted...

Can I also say that I have this begrudging respect for Mahal's reign over, say, Rollins because while both play chicken-shit heels, Mahal's makes so much more sense because how he retains isn't via stupid flukes?

I agree with this.

Despite still being a chicken-shit heel, Mahal feels like more of a star, somehow.
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I apologize for arguing over something tiny, but I felt the need to defend myself a little bit when it's like "You're sexist" over something that's being misrepresented/misunderstood to begin with.
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TheRock1525 posted...

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TheRock1525 posted...

Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit.

While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_>

How do these contradict at all?

"At least she's hot" implies the wrestler's shortcomings don't matter.
"At least _____ won" implies the match's shortcomings don't matter.

The second one certainly doesn't have to imply that at all

If I say "Ugh, that match was shit, but atleast Heath won," I'm not saying "Heath won so it doesn't matter that the match is shit." I'm saying "The only good part was Heath winning" or "The match was shit, but Heath winning was a plus."

And thus, the first one doesn't have to imply that, either.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit.

While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_>
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TheRock1525 posted...

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TheRock1525 posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out.

I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard.

We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does.

I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it?

Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler.

Again, I never said it justifies anything. This isn't an Eva Marie situation where I'm saying "Yeah, she should be on the show ONLY because she's hot!"

What I said was that if they're gonna push her anyway, it'd help for me to not completely hate it if I found her hot. This is basically the reverse of what you're suggesting. You're suggesting I'm going "Put all hot people on TV even if they can't wrestle." I'm saying they're already shoving her down our throats, so I wish "She's hot" was a perk to it. Hence why it's more of a perk than a justification. Her being hot wouldn't make me actually like her/defend her/whatever.

But again, that's part of wrestling. I just don't see why this is a big issue.
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Jakyl25 posted...

As long as we can acknowledge Heath checking out Dolph in the KFC commercial

"Well cock-a-doodle-doo.."

Damn straight we can
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