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Anyone from Tales, where presumably Lloyd is the most likely.

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Firefly and Dollhouse are among my favorite TV shows, love both Avengers movies and Serenity as well.

Honestly he always came off like a bit of a dick to me even in the interviews I've seen of his, though, so I dunno why anyone would be surprised by all of this stuff.

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Civil War has actually hung in there a bit longer than I expected it to, so I'll guess that next I suppose.

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I could also gush about TDH ad nauseum - that definitely wasn't the song of mine I expected to drop first.
Not_an_Owl posted...

that is not the song I would have chosen to represent them!

I switch up my Dear Hunter noms for every song ranking that comes along for this board, truth be told, mostly directed by whichever of the Acts I happen to be listening to the most when such topics pop up. Hard to settle on a hard representation otherwise for a band that can go straight from a contemplative soliloquy about the beginnings of a manipulative power struggle to a Shakespearean tragedy-esque disco track to a traditional rock 'n' roll arrogance song and so on without anything ever feeling out of place!

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Lopen posted...

I think Infinity War being #1 is impossible btw just because the point total is too low. With 32 lists you need an average of lower than 4th place for it to be #1, and metaing certain people's tastes in the topic I don't think it's universally liked to the point where that's even possible.

That's kind of how I feel about Winter Soldier, though. Too many people just seem to find Cap boring. I don't think that keeps it from a really high placement, but I think it would be enough to keep it from winning, especially by such a margin.

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114 - Infinity War
183 - Winter Soldier
183 - GotG
197 - Endgame
233 - Ragnarok
256 - Avengers
258 - Black Panther
297 - Civil War
306 - GotG 2

I'll throw in my predix as well.

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Hype

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9. Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
10. Captain America: The First Avenger
11. Iron Man
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13. Iron Man 3
14. Doctor Strange
15. Spider-Man: Far From Home
16. Ant-Man
17. Captain Marvel
18. Ant-Man and the Wasp
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20. Thor
21. Iron Man 2
22. Thor 2: The Dark World
23. The Incredible Hulk

Going into the top ten with all of my top 8 intact is pretty good, I guess! That #19 hanging around is gonna tank my outlier score, but I knew that when I submitted the ranking.

I could see the argument for quite a few films being the next to go, but at some point everybody questioning out loud why Guardians 2 is still hanging around has to result in an elimination so I suppose I'll keep guessing that.

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Gotta be Guardians 2 or Far From Home. I'll guess Guardians 2.

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Hmm... I feel like Homecoming is more likely to get a #1 vote than Far From Home, but I'd be surprised if the former went down before the latter. Don't know if I see Guardians 2 getting a top spot for anyone either.

I'm gonna guess Iron Man or Black Panther.

Hell, with Ed involved, though, who really knows?

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CTR Nitro-Fueled would get my vote for best kart racer, but I definitely wouldn't argue too hard with anyone that prefers All-Stars Transformed.

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I'll let you know in about 3000 years.

I was not aware until this topic that I'm a ? Block now.

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$30 seems like a bit much for what it is, but it's definitely a wonderful experience so if you're big on Limited Run stuff like that there's certainly worse games to look at.

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Reddit, believe it or not.

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Jesse_Custer posted...

I kind of wonder if many of the lower rankings for Ant-Man were people who just saw it once, since that was a movie that really didnt click for me the first time and probably would have been at or near the bottom of the list for me that first time.

I've seen it quite a few times and I love it. My low-ish ranking for it is kind of misleading; I really, really enjoy everything at and above #16 on my list.

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPx7E27Bc8.

Rough hint on the next one - I could see quite a few movies left fitting that description. Guess this seems to be about the right spot for Strange and it would make sense for me as the kind of movie no one really hates, so I'll go with that.

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I am a firm and impassioned hater of almost all kid characters that have ever been created.

Harley the IM3 kid is perfectly fine.

Also I'm pretty sure Abomination is the biggest abomination in the MCU hyuck hyuck hyuck

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I would expect Ant-Man next, but I'm not ruling out a surprise Strange drop instead.

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DC Cinematic Universe is bad.

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I dunno, some people really seem to dislike Civil War. I could see it getting a bunch of really polarized rankings that end up dropping it right around here.

I don't think it's next up, though.

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Lopen posted...

Iceman have you ever seen the early 90s Captain America movie. What are your thoughts on it. I'm just curious.

I haven't. Before my time, and I'm not a morbid curiosity kind of person by nature.

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Shout outs to the three other folks with good enough taste to sneak TFA into their top 10.

I don't really have a confident guess for the next one - hard to think of an entry that would fit both of those requirements and still make sense to drop next. I think Lightning has the right of it - Strange, Guardians 2, or Iron Man 3, and I'd lean toward it being one of the first two there.

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Nah, like I said, I'm used to it! Wouldn't be a ranking topic if two of my noms don't go down in a row.

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Just realized I got too distracted by the FE waifu wars to really even register that I lost two noms back-to-back, but I'm fairly certain that's happened to me at least once in every ranking topic I've ever participated in, so yeah.

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I'm honestly surprised there's three movies left at all that got last-place votes considering what's already gone down. I guess that'd be IM3, Cap 1, and, uh... Did Ed have Endgame at 23 or something?

IM3 would be my guess for 16 for sure.

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Told y'all things were going off the rails for me soon!

Gonna keep predicting AMatW until I have a reason not to, because I'm very surprised it's still hanging around. Didn't think anyone really cared about it that much at all.

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Lyrics have been my favorite part of music pretty much since I started listening to it, so I'll give a roughly tiered top ten.

Casey Crescenzo (The Dear Hunter)

Jon Oliva (Savatage/several other projects)
Jim Grey (Caligula's Horse/Arcane)
Neil DeGraide (Dirt Poor Robins)
Tomas Kalnoky (Streetlight Manifesto)

Kerry Livgren (Kansas)
Noel Gallagher (Oasis/Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds)

Darroh Sudderth (Fair to Midland)
Claudio Sanchez (Coheed and Cambria)
Billy Joel

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Okada/Kojima
7-8 years really is an eternity in pro wrestling, isn't it? This match really feels like it happened in a completely different era of the entire wrestling world, not just New Japan. But damned if it doesn't still hold up. I haven't watched it in quite a while, and I'd forgotten just how many moments in it I love, particularly from Kojima's end. The lariat off the top rope. Pulling out some of his old moves and even some of Tenzan's (I can't imagine a Mongolian Chop has ever gotten a bigger reaction than the one it did in this match). And there have been many, many Rainmaker counters by now, but Kojima pulling Okada straight into the Western Lariat remains one of the absolute best.

It's easy to forget that we weren't super far removed from Kojima being the IWGP Champ going into WK5 at this point. He was clearly being cycled down the card, but it wasn't completely out of the realm of possibility that he could come out of this match with his arm held up. It was unlikely, but within the boundaries of imagination. And there's points in this match where the crowd really starts to believe in that, which is a hell of a testament to what these two put together. Okada was already a genius at laying out and structuring big title bouts by this defense, and I would be inclined to argue that outside of the obvious Tanahashi series, this is the one that went the farthest toward legitimizing him as someone who could be counted on to deliver anytime he needed to and as a serious main event star. There's nothing groundbreaking about the match itself, and yet they still manage to pack it full of emotion and things that surprise you and make it memorable. That's a true less-is-more approach in pro wrestling, not side headlocks in a four-way.

It's weird to think that this was the last match of any real importance that Kojima was ever involved in, especially when even now, he can still go at a higher rate than a not-insignificant percentage of the roster. And that's not even a slight on them - Cozy is just that good. Which reminds me, I really need to make time for that Ospreay match sometime soon.

Also, I didn't realize how much I kinda miss Gedo being in Okada's corner until now. Both are still great without the other, obviously, but hearing "Come on, Rainmaker, COME ON!" and seeing them do the pre-match handshake and then the Rainmaker pose in unison later on was definitely a nostalgia hit.

Anyway, yeah. Everyone knows this match is really good. Very much enjoyed seeing it again.

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Lopen posted...

Okay y'all need to stop predicting GotG2 anywhere near here

Too many people have Ego high on their villain rankings for it to be at any risk of appearing until like 14

Well, I don't really know if that has a ton of bearing on it. The villains aren't really the draw of either GotG movie.

But I agree that Vol. 2 is not at all in danger yet.

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The Supreme Intelligence stuff sucked, but I feel like it does a lot less to detract from the movie than Danvers being boring does.

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I will not stand for this Annette slander. She's not just best Blue Lions girl, she's our girl.

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NXT 4-Way
The longer I watch wrestling, the less I like multi-way matches, especially the way modern WWE does them. There's an honest-to-God minute-long rest hold halfway through this match. A rest hold! Neville and Breeze are laying on the ground outside of the ring and Kidd has Zayn in a rest hold. There's just no reason to do things like that in a match with four wrestlers - despite what a lot of dumb Twitter weirdos will tell you, headlocks are not inherently good storytelling simply by virtue of being headlocks.

The match definitely picks up from there, though. Kidd plays a pretty good heel for the first bit and gets the benefit of being the smart one dissolving the temporary alliance with Breeze as soon as he recognized it was getting contentious. It's not a hot take to say his career was really on the upswing at this point - it's too bad he had to retire so soon afterward. Sami Zayn is and always was the consummate underdog. It's too bad he's retired now too. Breeze is a guy who was probably never as good as a lot of people claimed but was certainly much better than he's gotten to show in the years since this run, and he had some fantastic flurries down the line. Like Bidoof said, the most unassuming participant is the champion, but that's obviously by design, as his slow-burn heel turn finally starts coming to a head when he pulls the ref out.

Ultimately, a very good match with a lot of moving parts to work with that mostly manages itself well. It's held back in my mind a bit by the fact that multi-man matches have a bit of an inherent ceiling for me and that general WWE malaise has me looking back on even good things like this with an attitude that's not exactly conducive to enjoying myself to the fullest. But yeah, there's a lot of nice stuff there.

PS: If I'm permitted a quick aside rant, there are few things more annoying to me in wrestling commentary than someone trying to sell something that happens literally all the time by saying something like "I've never seen anything like that before!" That happens in this match with a Tower of Doom spot. Literally, it's a spot that happens so often that it has its own name, and we've got supposed experts screaming at us about how insane and unbelievable it is. It's such a credibility undermining thing - how little wrestling could you possibly watch if you've never seen a Tower of Doom before?

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I did not intend to start this discussion by nominating an FE girl but as long as it's happening I suppose I'm obligated to weigh in!

Actual best 3H girl is secretly Hapi.

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I'm always surprised by the amount of people who don't like the way in which Fury lost his eye. To me, the mystique had been built up for so long that any attempt to make it epic or even just a big moment at all would have run a big risk of falling flat or disappointing a lot of people anyway. I think they handled it perfectly considering the overall tone of the MCU and so forth.

I'm gonna stick with my prediction of AMatW and CM being tied and then shamelessly count those both as being correct guesses in my own mind if I'm right.

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La-Mulana, and then the sequel if the first one doesn't send you to an insane asylum.

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By the way, Inviso, I emailed my leftover writeups to you a couple days ago - I assume you got them?

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More spoilers for #19: I will not stay perfect for the fifth movie in a row.

Apparently I'm the dissenting grouch here, because I absolutely despise fish-out-of-water comedy. "HAHAHA this guy from another culture/planet/world/etc. doesn't understand ours and look at all the funny stuff he does because of it while all the side and background characters stare weirdly at him! We're going to do a bunch of jokes like this but they're all fundamentally the exact same!"

It's so bad. It takes actors with very specialized skillsets to make it even marginally entertaining, and none of the cast members of Thor have those skills.

Anyway, I could very easily see this tie being Captain Marvel/Ant-Man and the Wasp, and I think I'd probably be inclined to guess the latter ends up on the lower end.

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Astounding to me that there are people out there who don't know the best Pokegirl is Skyla.

Erika is underrated, though; that I'll grant her.

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Hey, just like I said at the beginning of this topic, my opinions are perfectly curated and my list immaculately reflective of the MCU's true ranking.

This post will be deleted when things go extremely off the rails for me in the teens.

Anyway, I feel like my attempts to be concise for my writeups have led me to look more negative on these bottom-of-the-list eliminations, so I want to clarify that I really don't dislike any of the movies in the franchise. I've done multiple rewatches in recent years alongside a couple of people who had never seen any of the MCU before in addition to the one for this project and at no point have I dreaded an upcoming entry or not enjoyed myself while actually watching them. There's just some where the flaws are more readily apparent, and obviously something's gotta be at the bottom.

Oh, yeah, and I agree with the Thor 1 prediction. I don't think Cap 1 is hanging around a whole lot longer, but I don't see how it finishes below Kat Dennings.

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Tom Bombadil posted...

For my casual scrub money, it's close enough to Awakening that I have a lot of trouble keeping them straight. I figure whatever your opinion of Awakening is would be a good starting point.

I agree with using Awakening as a starting point, because they are fairly similar, but I would specifically set that starting point to whatever your score for Awakening would be and then knock two or three points off of it. That should give you a pretty close estimate of what you'll score Conquest after playing it. The other two aren't worth it at all.

My recommendation if you've got the FE itch and don't have access to 3H is to save your money and just grab a couple emulators. Play the translation patches of the Japan-only games. If you've already done that too, find a hack/fangame or two - I can tell you from personal experience that there are multiple out there better than Fates.

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I can't think of a single piece of television or film that wouldn't be improved by putting Walton Goggins in it.

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Lost Odyssey is good, you guys are just mean.

And Last Story is great.

There's a lot of bad opinions in this topic.

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Don Cheadle is really bad in IM2. I think he gets considerably better in, like, every movie after that, but his first effort is real rough.

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Jesse_Custer posted...

Im just going to keep guessing Iron Man 2 next until it drops.

Same here.

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ZenOfThunder posted...

maybe someone really really likes kat dennings

I can think of only two reasons to like Kat Dennings and they're not exactly on display in either Thor movie.

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Ed, we all know you're an agent of chaos. And we love you for it!

I'm jumping on the Iron Man 2 train for the next drop. Every other guess seems perfectly reasonable too, but I can at least imagine a perspective that would get them into somebody's top 10. IM2 doesn't have that unless a B8 member is secretly the biggest Sam Rockwell fan ever, and even then...

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This is really cool - I like challenges like this.

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I mean Styles was, what, 39 when they were doing the whole Redneck Rookie thing with him? They weren't far off even then.

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/wweonfox/status/1356452631980482562?s=21

This is also dumb

SO SPOOKY

they don't know how right they are

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Cool. Looking forward to this one!

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Hyyyype.

I apologize in advance for my writeups being almost entirely devoid of any intelligent commentary on film whatsoever, and for my opinions in general being probably bad.

I have to imagine the bottom 4 is composed of the first two Thors, Iron Man 2, and Hulk, and I guess I'll make the safe prediction that it's indeed Hulk at the very bottom because I personally know less people that like that one than Dark World.

Also, gotta say, there's a little more separation between the top 2 and everything else than I expected considering I figured there were 4 movies I could imagine winning.

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