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My perspective is probably skewed because this is the only board on GFAQs I visit anymore, but Reddit is definitely a hard place to deal with sometimes. Just a huge collection of miserable people who are angry that everyone else isn't as miserable as they are.

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I also love dumb hokey stuff and question why people who are staunchly against it would be into pro wrestling to begin with (and no it's not just a WWE thing WWE just has more of it) so obviously I don't care about that aspect.

I suppose I can actually kind of agree with this in some ways, considering the full watchthrough I did of 90s AJPW (which was 100% free of dumb hokey stuff) during COVID has seemingly turned me off of modern wrestling forever.

But that's part of my point. It's not like the sort of dumb hokey stuff I'm talking about was always a part of pro wrestling. It rose to prominence in WWF/E and primarily with the Undertaker, and the fact that it's now just near-universally accepted as some basic truth that his community theater nonsense is as much a part of the fabric of wrestling as the Irish Whip is a big part of why I hate the character so much.

Also, "Undertaker was bad in the ring" is a much more common take than you're giving it credit for. He had some good Mania matches but plenty of "normal workrate snobs" would tell you that he spent 90% of his career at minimum being lousy.

See also: All the terrible supernatural or just plain hokey bullshit that's shown up in one form or another in pro wrestling over the last ~decade that has been defended by people saying "Well, it was okay when the Undertaker did it hurr durr!" when in fact it wasn't okay when the Undertaker did it as plenty of us hated it back then too.

I could go on a longer rant about this but I know I'm already coming off as a joyless nerd so I'll stop there.

Obviously, known outrage merchant and cancel culture supporter NBIceman must surely be using that criteria as his basis and not judging based on the onscreen character.

POWER-UP PUNCH
+3 Cubchoo
+2 Sawsbuck
+1 Espurr
-1 Bouffalant
-2 Carkol
-3 Tapu Fini

ACUPRESSURE
+3 Cobalion
+2 Helioptile
+1 Simisage
-1 Venipede
-2 Paras
-3 Darmanitan

Two pretty good divisions.

Frost Breath is the worst division in this contest yet by a pretty fair margin. Everyone Pokemon in there would've gotten a negative score from me in most divisions.

Oh, hey, apparently I never reacted to my last two drops.

I'm very happy to end up with the third-best average and, apparently, a set of noms that gave you some sort of existential crisis about the nature of ranking topics. Glad I got some good ones in there!

PSYBEAM
+3 Zebstrika
+2 Glastrier
+1 Chinchou
-1 Morgrem
-2 Reuniclus
-3 Flapple

COMEUPPANCE
+3 Mawile
+2 Lotad
+1 Poochyena
-1 Cosmoem
-2 Zamazenta
-3 Gouging Fire

NEEDLE ARM
+3 Meganium
+2 Snivy
+1 Hattrem
-1 Rillaboom
-2 Ceruledge
-3 Flutter Mane

FROST BREATH
+3 Cranidos
+2 Minccino
+1 Charjabug
-1 Tarountula
-2 Naclstack
-3 Celesteela

Strong, giant NO.

SNORE
+3 Copperajah
+2 Chesnaught
+1 Dachsbun
-1 Porygon-Z
-2 Sunkern
-3 Tinkatink

G-Max Tartness
+3 Lugia
+2 Mienshao
+1 Abomasnow
-1 Golduck
-2 Weepinbell
-3 Bonsly

Tartness is the first super strong division for my tastes in quite a while.

STUN SPORE
+3 Cufant
+2 Kilowattrel
+1 Gible
-1 Seedot
-2 Gurdurr
-3 Mimikyu

Mimikyu sucks.

CORE ENFORCER
+3 Gardevoir
+2 Cacnea
+1 Swadloon
-1 Magikarp
-2 Sandaconda
-3 Mr. Rime

Man, I can't believe I'm the first Gen 2 vote.

DIAMOND STORM
+3 Ursaring
+2 Gabite
+1 Pansage
-1 Pawmo
-2 Applin
-3 Iron Moth

TACHYON CUTTER
+3 Latios
+2 Arctibax
+1 Cherrim
-1 Staravia
-2 Capsakid
-3 Tapu Bulu

Whooooof.

FOCUS ENERGY
+3 Pikachu
+2 Marill
+1 Cottonee
-1 Chimchar
-2 Cryogonal
-3 Smoochum

ASTRAL BARRAGE
+3 Chien-Pao
+2 Floatzel
+1 Mewtwo
-1 Grumpig
-2 Conkeldurr
-3 Klefki

I don't even love Pikachu that much, but Focus Energy is a pretty weak division. Astral Barrage not much better.

FLAME WHEEL
+3 Politoed
+2 Shroomish
+1 Riolu
-1 Misdreavus
-2 Ekans
-3 Silvally

BELCH
+3 Chikorita
+2 Dhelmise
+1 Charmeleon
-1 Beldum
-2 Magby
-3 Swirlix

I love Chikorita but Belch is lousy otherwise.

OCTAZOOKA
+3 Deerling
+2 Serperior
+1 Beartic
-1 Deino
-2 Stantler
-3 Cyclizar

PAIN SPLIT
+3 Braviary
+2 Aurorus
+1 Marowak
-1 Mr. Mime
-2 Kingambit
-3 Iron Boulder

Octazooka mostly good, Pain Split mostly meh.

PIKA PAPOW
+3 Bagon
+2 Giratina
+1 Mantyke
-1 Iron Hands
-2 Iron Valiant
-3 Tandemaus

AMNESIA
+3 Quilava
+2 Boltund
+1 Rockruff
-1 Regidrago
-2 Lucario
-3 Scolipede

Would've been nice if some Amnesia Pokemon would've been spread across the five bad divisions that preceded it.

TRIPLE DIVE
+3 Victini
+2 Crocalor
+1 Honedge
-1 Zygarde
-2 Duosion
-3 Enamorus

HYPER BEAM
+3 Sealeo
+2 Girafarig
+1 Sirfetch'd
-1 Chingling
-2 Patrat
-3 Falinks

Day 16 surpasses Day 15 as the worst yet. Triple Dive in particular is baaaad.

Gen VII is probably my most hated of all of these options. I will never understand the love for Mimikyu or the Tapus.

2 in the top twenty, won't ever complain about that!

Water Sport
+3 Zangoose
+2 Slowbro
+1 Lokix
-1 Runerigus
-2 Garbodor
-3 Bruxish

Electroweb
+3 Drilbur
+2 Fezandipiti
+1 Dewgong
-1 Koffing
-2 Silicobra
-3 Pincurchin

Miserable day.

2 gets my vote this time, but I also really like 5 and it'll probably win.

If it helps, you can copy and paste the number and following text from somewhere else and it'll work for some reason.

SAND TOMB
+3 Houndoom
+2 Trevenant
+1 Flaaffy
-1 Eelektross
-2 Rellor
-3 Gimmighoul

MAX DARKNESS
+3 Aggron
+2 Banette
+1 Wailord
-1 Bounsweet
-2 Wobbuffet
-3 Togedemaru

Sand Tomb is a pretty good division. Meanwhile, Max Darkness has Aggron and then a bunch of stuff I have no feelings on at all.

I've never been mistaken for BCT before. Huh.

NBIceman posted...

Journey
Pandora's Tower
Furi
Shadow of the Colossus

I'll be the only answer for the middle two, I know, but I stand firm.

You know what, swap SOTC for NieR: Automata.

Journey
Pandora's Tower
Furi
Shadow of the Colossus

I'll be the only answer for the middle two, I know, but I stand firm.

This is reminding me that I still need to decide whether I want to spend multiple hundreds of dollars on Trails in the Sky OST records, so... Thanks for that, I think?

TomNook7 posted...

he's into board games

Oh, right, I think you did post once or twice in my board game topic that I accidentally abandoned. >_>

Still not sure I understand the question but I THINK my answer would be Pyre.

That game was way too bleak and depressing for my tastes and it gets very repetitive by the end, but I appreciate the artistry of a lot of what it's doing, and I completely understand why plenty of people love it to bits.

3 and 6 are the only lineups I really like, and even with 6, the Megas are pulling a lot of the weight.

Voting 6.

I'm not sure I've ever interacted with you but go nuts.

Two in the top 30 ain't bad - interesting that they're probably the two of my nominations that differ the most from each other. But I guess that fits considering the whole remaining list seems pretty varied from what I can tell!

I'm holding firm on my guess that King of Swords ends up being my highest placement.

Floaty Fall
+3 Entei
+2 Litten
+1 Meloetta
-1 Voltorb
-2 Pansear
-3 Shiinotic

Dark Void
+3 Lanturn
+2 Wooper
+1 Gyarados
-1 Machop
-2 Malamar
-3 Gholdengo

I think the monkeys are kind of over-hated, honestly. Of all the pointless and boring and uninspired designs in the series, I don't really understand why those specifically have drawn so much vitriol.

I don't think they're good by any means but like a -81 in a division that isn't overly strong seems excessive.

DEFOG
+3 Snorlax
+2 Groudon
+1 Unown
-1 Cinderace
-2 Weezing
-3 Incineroar

MALICIOUS MOONSAULT
+3 Flygon
+2 Yamper
+1 Doublade
-1 Hoopa
-2 Clamperl
-3 Scream Tail

These are two pretty bad divisions.

G-MAX STONESURGE
+3 Lilligant
+2 Escavalier
+1 Gengar
-1 Simisear
-2 Maschiff
-3 Medicham

RAZOR WIND
+3 Rotom
+2 Kubfu
+1 Palafin
-1 Xurkitree
-2 Horsea
-3 Morelull

Late with this comment but I'm glad you enjoyed Wisdom of Rage. I honestly think I survived longer overall than I expected to given our usual taste overlap (or lack thereof)!

Again, I don't know much about the characters or concept of the album,

Don't worry, neither do I, and actually I'm pretty sure that the only person who does is Sandy Pearlman. I find it hard to believe that even the members of BOC understand much of what the hell is going on in the Imaginos story except that it's about a bunch of aliens starting World War 1.

Honestly, I generally think the song functions better without even trying to place it in the context of any stories. Looking into it too hard just obscures some of the best and most poetic lyric writing ever in my view. So I'm glad you enjoyed it regardless of everything else!

Mononoke is probably my least favorite Miyazaki of the handful I've seen, so that's an easy one.

Overheat
+3 Cacturne
+2 Espeon
+1 Shinx
-1 Mankey
-2 Magearna
-3 Spidops

Ice Hammer
+3 Jolteon
+2 Slowpoke
+1 Altaria
-1 Electrode
-2 Luvdisc
-3 Ribombee

Overheat is a strong division.

DRAGON HAMMER
+3 Growlithe
+2 Dragonair
+1 Ludicolo
-1 Dracovish
-2 Flittle
-3 Brute Bonnet

MAKE IT RAIN
+3 Milotic
+2 Ampharos
+1 Mightyena
-1 Registeel
-2 Arceus
-3 Croagunk

Milotic and Ampharos are both top 5 Pokemon for me, rough draw. Luckily I know Ampharos is popular so the +3 is an easy decision between them.

Both divisions are pretty strong, honestly.

Glad you liked Light Up the Night! "Fun" is the right descriptor - just has a ton of energy and gets stuck in my head all the time.

If there are infinite universes out there, that means in at least one universe, LMS rules the world.

What must that be like?

I've only seen a handful, but the only one of those I liked a lot was Castle in the Sky. Kiki was good, too.

I know it's sacrilege but I don't quite understand why he's so beloved.

SKETCH
+3 Skiddo
+2 Donphan
+1 Joltik
-1 Frigibax
-2 Silcoon
-3 Miraidon

HARDEN
+3 Salandit
+2 Aegislash
+1 Scizor
-1 Cascoon
-2 Emboar
-3 Sinistcha

Harden division might be my least favorite so far. Woof.

PSYCHIC TERRAIN
+3 Lapras
+2 Ogerpon
+1 Rhyperior
-1 Scraggy
-2 Duraludon
-3 Hariyama

AGILITY
+3 Quagsire
+2 Omastar
+1 Croconaw
-1 Iron Jugulis
-2 Iron Leaves
-3 Iron Thorns

Liquidation
+3 Hitmontop
+2 Blitzle
+1 Chespin
-1 Cursola
-2 Skuntank
-3 Dewpider

Bone Club
+3 Pawniard
+2 Jirachi
+1 Kecleon
-1 Volbeat
-2 Seismitoad
-3 Maushold

Iron Head
+3 Maractus
+2 Absol
+1 Litleo
-1 Pecharunt
-2 Klang
-3 Zacian

Storm Throw
+3 Pidgeot
+2 Armarouge
+1 Mantine
-1 Appletun
-2 Mareanie
-3 Varoom