Board 8 > Were you a fan of any of joss whedon's tv shows or movies?

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KazGT6
02/16/21 7:02:34 PM
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i know he's getting a lot of heat for his on set behavior
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Mr Lasastryke
02/16/21 7:13:17 PM
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i'm still a fan of avengers 1.

also toy story 1, if that counts.

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redrocket
02/16/21 7:14:49 PM
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Basically everything hes done except Age of Ultron.

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Mr Lasastryke
02/16/21 7:16:48 PM
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redrocket posted...
Basically everything hes done except Age of Ultron.

even justice league?

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colliding
02/16/21 7:20:52 PM
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Serenity > Buffy TV > Firefly > Angel. Not a huge fan of anything else.

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redrocket
02/16/21 7:21:59 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
even justice league?

no

i think i just block that out from my memory

i do think he is seriously overblamed for how his Justice League turned out. It was a nearly impossible situation that he was put into and the whole thing was basically doomed to failure from day 1.

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Snake5555555555
02/16/21 7:23:21 PM
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I like Buffy, Firefly, Angel, Dollhouse is particularly amazing, of course Avengers 1. If you count producer roles Cabin in the Woods is the best thing he's ever done (oh wait I forgot he also wrote it too).

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RikkuAlmighty
02/16/21 7:23:36 PM
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Cabin in the Woods

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PerfectChaosZ
02/16/21 7:24:13 PM
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Basically everything but hes still a ****head.
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Maniac64
02/16/21 7:25:57 PM
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PerfectChaosZ posted...
Basically everything but hes still a ****head.

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GuessMyUserName
02/16/21 7:33:27 PM
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Agents of Shield s4+

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tcaz2
02/16/21 7:36:27 PM
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"Were" implies I'm not anymore, and I still am.
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pjbasis
02/16/21 7:41:46 PM
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Cabin in the Woods for sure but Buffy/Angel too and I liked avengers 1 a lot.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/16/21 7:44:46 PM
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PerfectChaosZ posted...
Basically everything but hes still a ****head.


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banananor
02/16/21 7:45:40 PM
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what's his on set behavior?

he's talented and has a strong style. i think maybe he's been making too much safe stuff in the past decade or so, but can you really blame anyone for doing their job?

i liked firefly and the movie serenity a lot

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KamikazePotato
02/16/21 7:46:59 PM
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PerfectChaosZ posted...
Basically everything but hes still a ****head.


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MZero
02/16/21 7:50:20 PM
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Dr. Horrible is great

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banananor
02/16/21 7:50:29 PM
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oh it's a metoo thing. oh well, i don't really feel anything about it

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NBIceman
02/16/21 8:07:23 PM
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Firefly and Dollhouse are among my favorite TV shows, love both Avengers movies and Serenity as well.

Honestly he always came off like a bit of a dick to me even in the interviews I've seen of his, though, so I dunno why anyone would be surprised by all of this stuff.

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Lightning Strikes
02/16/21 8:36:36 PM
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banananor posted...
oh it's a metoo thing. oh well, i don't really feel anything about it

Its adjacent to that, but not really the same thing. Effectively he is accused of being an abusive boss guilty of actively creating toxic work environments and severe workplace bullying, right up to asking that a pregnant actress have an abortion so she can keep working the same hours, then firing her when she wouldnt. All of this has been corroborated. This is also attached to both sexist behaviour on his own account (see above) and perpetuating Hollywood as a sexist industry despite styling himself as a feminist and railing against sexism in the entertainment industry in particular, so he is guilty of hypocrisy.

I think that angle is in part why its gotten so much traction. For instance, David O. Russell is known to be deeply abusive and a terrible bully but nobody really cares. With Whedon its a bigger shock for a lot of people. He was heralded as a hero, but in reality hes a dick.

Anyway, I like most of his work (basically everything but Age of Ultron, which is okay I guess) and even though he is bad, that hasnt changed because in every single case they were huge collaborations that were so much bigger than one individual. And in many cases he is frankly overvalued - Cabin in the Woods for instance is very much Drew Goddards film, Whedon only co-wrote it. I think it would be better if we stopped thinking of individuals as auteurs both in terms of crediting the many other people involved for their hard work, and maybe reducing the egos of those at the top.

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kevwaffles
02/16/21 8:48:29 PM
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I think it was in Charisma Carpenter's contract that she wasn't supposed to get pregnant. Which honestly is super fucked up to me but I don't think Whedon exactly pioneered that concept.

I think the part about him asking her to get an abortion is new info though, and that is so much, much worse.
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redrocket
02/16/21 8:53:04 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
I think it was in Charisma Carpenter's contract that she wasn't supposed to get pregnant. Which honestly is super fucked up to me but I don't think Whedon exactly pioneered that concept.

I think the part about him asking her to get an abortion is new info though, and that is so much, much worse.

According to her account, it was more like he implied that it would be nice if she did, rather than outright asking her to. Still inhuman though.

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Mac Arrowny
02/16/21 8:56:03 PM
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Abortions should be recommended to all pregnant women.
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Lightning Strikes
02/16/21 8:59:46 PM
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Yeah just to be clear I dont think there was necessarily any realistic expectation in Whedons part. Its just extremely abusive.

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02/16/21 9:47:48 PM
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Also his run on Astonishing X-Men is pretty good.

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Uglyface2
02/16/21 10:24:39 PM
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MZero posted...
Dr. Horrible is great

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Waluigi1
02/17/21 1:36:17 AM
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Some of this stuff I didn't even know he worked on. Is there like a handy list for me to look at?

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MarkS222222222222222
02/17/21 2:00:49 AM
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The shows and movies have not changed

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mnkboy907
02/17/21 2:12:14 AM
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Everyone should go watch Dollhouse.

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Mr Lasastryke
02/17/21 7:19:25 AM
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Waluigi1 posted...
Some of this stuff I didn't even know he worked on. Is there like a handy list for me to look at?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joss_Whedon

go to the "joss whedon" section at the bottom and click "[show]"

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Evillordexdeath
02/17/21 7:38:28 AM
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I liked Cabin in the Woods, but everything else I've seen involving him has been mediocre to terrible. I haven't seen Firefly or Buffy though.

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Mega Mana
02/17/21 7:54:35 AM
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Much Ado About Nothing

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KingButz
02/17/21 10:40:26 AM
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I liked Firefly a decent amount but I think it's carried a lot by that great group of actors. Whedon's style isn't really for me.
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