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From: Ayuyu | #135

From: Lopen | #128

Plotwise it's superior because a plot exists. Diablo 2's plot was "DIAB-- THE DARK WANDERER IS HEADING EAST" "KILL DIABLO'S BROTHERS AND DIABLO HIMSELF" "NOW BAAL IS ANGRY"

Diablo 3's plot is exactly the same but replace brothers with Lesser Evils and Baal with Diablo.

Nah, Diablo 3 actually has plot points. Such as:

Cain getting killed
Tyrael falling from the sky
Saving Adria
Adria teaching Leah magic
Adria betraying you
Leah being turned into Diablo


There are plenty of more I didn't mention too-- they're all way more significant than "get the Gibdinn" or "get the three pieces of the staff" I mean, is it great writing or anything? No. But it exists in a form greater than "excuse to cut through bosses"

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Plotwise it's superior because a plot exists. Diablo 2's plot was "DIAB-- THE DARK WANDERER IS HEADING EAST" "KILL DIABLO'S BROTHERS AND DIABLO HIMSELF" "NOW BAAL IS ANGRY"

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Yeah she has conviction. But any time she's doing stuff that feels like it's driven by herself it's to resist change, not to initiate it. Which does matter. You claim that sticking to your beliefs in the face of adversity is a difficult thing... I actually think it's oftentimes the easier way out, personally. Making changes in yourself can be difficult, even if said changes are things that would make your life easier. That's why archaic worthless traditions like Yuna's pilgrimage are so enduring.

To elaborate on what I meant by comparing her to Wakka... I feel his development in the game was shaped more by absorbing events, and coming to conclusions on his own based on seeing what's happening, simply because of what was the catalyst for it. Yuna I feel her development in the game was shaped more by being influenced by people around her, and coming to conclusions with their thoughts in mind. There are no specific events that make things "click" for her. Like at Zanarkand I felt like it was more like... she was thinking it was wrong for a while now due to grievances from Tidus and such and just got the nerve to come out with it when Yunalesca decides to be a jerk about it all.

But I mean, I'm not saying she's putty or something. I think you may be over exaggerating what I'm saying in your mind due to me presenting it as a flaw in my eyes (because it's not, necessarily, depending on your perspective). Obviously she has convictions and can make decisions for herself. I'm just saying that she's not someone who actively spurs on change in herself for the better (or the worse, as in FFX-2)-- she has to look to other people to draw the strength to do these things. Not necessarily a bad thing-- you could actually paint it favorably and say it's a sign she has a lot of empathy (which she clearly does)-- but something that makes her less appealing to me. She can surely make decisions on her own, but I feel any significant change in her thought process or attitude or course of action involves drawing from others to make it, based on the events of the games.

Maybe that's just a flaw in the writing of the games, though, that every bit of significant change she has is first seen in another character's way of thinking, I don't know. I'm just saying you've got people like Wakka who have change that isn't clearly tied to an individual so it's clear that that kinda development does exist in the game, at least...

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WWE Title Elim Chamber (5): Punk
Divas Title: Beth (c)
Orton
Cryme Tyme
Christian
Lion's Den: Barrett
Cena
WHC Elim Chamber (10): Replacement
BONUS (3+3): Show replaced by Edge

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Like I said it's a question of degree. You think Yuna being influenced by Tidus was something similar to how much Tidus influenced pretty much everyone-- I just have to disagree. Yuna definitely feels like the type of character that lets people influence her quite a bit. That's not necessarily bad or even something I expect you to agree with but the evidence is kinda there. All of her character developments or motivations can pretty much be directly tied to one character or organization You can't really say, do the same thing with Wakka's development for instance.

But yeah like I said we're not going to agree on this and I'm not trying to convince you either-- just explaining that what I'm saying is not what you're saying I'm saying.

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That's not exactly what I meant. Yeah the mc will tend to influence people but in Yuna's case it's a lot more directly significant than say, Auron's or Rikku's or whoever. Like it's not that Yuna changed her way of thinking it's that she basically stole a speech that would come directly out of Tidus's mouth. Varying degrees of influence I guess?

I'm not saying Yuna's not responsible for that moment, I'm saying it would be nice to see her do something interesting that was a direct result of her own way of thinking. Yuna to me feels like a character that is always led along by some thinker that's stronger willed than she is. Be it Yu Yevon (or whoever pushes her to do the pilgrimage) early in the game when she's sticking to her guns with the pilgrimage, Tidus when she decides to rebel against the idea of the pilgrimage, or Rikku in FFX-2 when she decides to become a ditz. She doesn't seem to have a strong sense of her own identity. She's a follower. Not that that's bad but it makes her character less interesting to me.

It's not a matter of "Tidus influenced that decision so it cheapens it" it's a matter of "I was getting at she has no moment in the games that's all her driving it forward and this is no exception."

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Nah I disagree with that. That speech definitely gave the vibe that she was heavily influenced by Tidus's revolts against tradition and such from earlier in the game. Like I'm not saying Tidus was actively pushing her to do it but at the same time it's not something I'd expect Yuna to do without playing copycat. Like I'm not trying to belittle the scene cause the scene is good either way regardless of what led Yuna to do it, but it does matter in how much it reaffirms my feelings that Yuna doesn't ever really stand entirely on her own two feet. Now I'm not saying a character being influenced by other characters is a bad thing but in Yuna's case she never feels like anything special she does comes straight from her.

I don't recall the "believe" thing offhand, but I'm pretty sure I'd feel similarly about that.

Also I'm not saying the naive thing doesn't come into play, but it isn't presented as a flaw. It's not "Yuna you're stupid for doing this that's never going to work." It's "good try Yuna your heart was in the right place."

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At least Yuffie is interesting and has character flaws !!

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Gogo being 3rd in the Kill Bill hierarchy is acceptable. At least the three best characters in it ranked 1-3.

Tira

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The Sorrow

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Well I can break up the agreement parade by saying Yuffie is the best Final Fantasy Female

Hell Yuna ain't even the best female in her own game that goes to Rikku.

I dunno Yuna never really resonated with me. I can step back and see why people like her, but to me she's kinda boring and a bit of a Mary Sue in some ways. Like yeah she's naive and shy/awkward at times but I don't seem to recall it ever being presented as a flaw or hurting her in the sense that "hey it was your fault for screwing that up." I also dislike that any sort of new or bold move she makes generally comes from inspiration from Tidus or Rikku or someone else. That's probably debatable to some since she's generally been getting praise in the write-up for how bold she is and stuff but that's how it always felt to me.

I also don't see why one would try to separate voice acting from characters, unless like, the VA's presentation totally doesn't fit the dialogue or something. Generally VAs are chosen for a reason and I would say they're a real part of the character. The only argument you could have otherwise would be if a character has an actor/VA in a book adaptation. FFX is no book, though, and I'm sure just as much care was taken in selecting the English VA as the Japanese one so yeah.

Though on that note I actually think Hedy Burress was an excellent choice for the VA for Yuna. Any awkward lines she has generally fit the character, I think.

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From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #313

Tell me why this TNA PPV won't suck.

TNA's had good PPVs pretty much all year. Kinda sad I missed this one.

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But the back to back productivity never happen.

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Tira
Gogo Yubari

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Tears from the laughing

Amazing

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From: HeroicGammaRay | #075

-finally-

close to 500 attempts i think. worth it though. so glad i didn't buy or farm my way past him.
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Congrats. I still think you're crazy for getting satisfaction out of that brand of difficulty but more power to you!

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I don't mind Chinese Blood Moon Akali she's still quite good but I preferred the American one slightly.

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Man I can't believe they imported one of the few Chinese skins where I prefer the American one in Blood Moon Akali. :/

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Did some. Don't think I'll finish it tomorrow even if I have a productive day, but Sunday maybe.

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My favorite part of her being the voice actor is I named my female wizard Azula before hearing the VA

The fact that she basically acts like Azula if Azula weren't evil and were less insane just makes it better.

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Barrett
Gail
IC Title: Cody (c)
Mascara Contra Mascara: Cara
Haas/Dibiase
Tag Titles: Harts (c)
Khali
Bryan/Orton
Miz/Truth/Henry
BONUS (2): What's the WORST match of the night? Gail vs Rosa
NXT BONUS (2): Elimination Match: Williams/Christian

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Psh. Real skill is in playing undergeared. Any schmuck can go overlevel and buy junk at the Auction House !!

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Well back in hell my dps on the status screen was like 8k

So yeah it's still pretty ridiculous!

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Cryme Tyme
Melissa
Williams
ZigSwag
Santino/Trish
Leavine (barf)
Jericho/Morrison/Kofi/Bourne
Cena/Del Rio
Bonus (2): Which EC participant (Jericho, Morrison, Kofi, Ziggler, Punk, Del Rio) ends the show standing tall? Morrison

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Your gear is like 28k higher dps than mine is now in A2 Inferno GANON of course you're going to murder hell Azmodan.

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Hey my ideas are often good!

Especially when compared to "this 52 year old man just beat our champ clean 2 weeks in a row"

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Well yeah WWE wouldn't either I suppose.

Uhh maybe Chikara would, or something. *shrug Or late 90s WCW as a midcard storyline.

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Either that or reading too many John Cena tweets

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Also what I think would be the coolest way to twist this Sting making Roode tap two weeks in a row to the Scorpion Deathlock would be to.

At the PPV, Sting keeps going for it, thinking it's an easy win because Roode kept tapping to it so easy.

Roode keeps escaping-- eventually counters it in some way to win the match.

Roode cuts a promo at some later point saying how he was feigning weakness so he'd have Sting right where he wanted him, or something like that.

But it's TNA so they won't.

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Hey Taz can provide meaningful commentary on rare occasion

He did a really good job at the last PPV actually

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Well to be fair Brooke hasn't been overly offensive. Like, she's not good on the mic but she has a bit more charisma than Garrett at least, and knows to keep her ass out of the ring.

Like if her name wasn't Hogan I probably wouldn't hate her so much-- it'd more just be like "well okay whatever." But the fact that I know that the only reason she has a job is because of her father and not by any merit of her own is grating. Like there are random regulars in the crowd that have more charisma than she does.

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Eh I don't think Bully Ray vs Park is a bad storyline. It's pretty amusing even though it's ridiculous.

Hell if they didn't give Dixie a mic the Dixie storyline wouldn't be the worst thing ever either-- at least Daniels is relevant.

Brooke Hogan and Garrett Bischoff (seriously get this "free lunch for family" bs off the show) are the big anchors right now I think. Dixie is #3 simply cause at least Daniels "bullying" her was amusing.

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Tira
Gogo Yubari

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it'd be like if I called you a pyromaniac architect.

I don't know if I'm the only one but this sounds like an honorable title to me, somehow

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Been about a month and a week now since a true update. I haven't completely missed too many days so far but absorbing that has kinda motivated me a bit. Pretty sure I'll update before the week's over.

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While it may be true that you were... you are but one man! Who do you think you are, HM?

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I'm surprised I'd never heard of any hype for this game before. Concept seems neat.

As for the Bonus Question, Double Dragon by far. This wouldn't just revive the series it could revive beat em ups as a whole, really.

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I don't care enough to have a preferred spelling for Chun's name to be honest with you! Bad character.

Well she's okay in MVC3 but hate her style in pretty much all the other games

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Chun Li and Vega can be played fine defensively. They've got good pokes and speed helps on defense as well. In fact I think in the majority of games she's in Chun Li is optimally played in a defensive fashion. Vega not as much but he's capable. The other ones yeah I agree.

Bonus Question: What is your favorite new series of this generation?

Valkyria Chronicles, probably. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are also in contention though.

Bonus Question: Who is your favorite video game female?

Rin Tohsaka from F/SN. Or if you're preferring non VN characters Tira from Soul Calibur I suppose. Or Serra from FE7. Now that I list them out all three of these characters sport pigtails. I guess it's a design weakness of mine. Not that I only like the characters for their design, or anything, but they do all have good ones, as all characters I like tend to!

Yes that was a random 2 sentence tangent but whatever. I blame your talk about "hair buns" which look terrible. (not huge on Chun Li as you probably already know!)

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Amaterasu (Okami)
Red XIII (Final Fantasy VII)
Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
Mew (Pokemon)
Magus (Chrono Trigger)
Aigis (Persona 3)
Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4)
Morrigan (Dragon Age)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Sakura Kasugano (Street Fighter)
Brock (Pokemon)
Midna (Zelda)
Rydia of Mist (Final Fantasy IV)
Wolf O'Donnell (Star Fox)
Garcian Smith (Killer7)

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They expected people to price gouge more with the AH, I assume. I'm not sure why they expected that, but that's the only thing I can think of.

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Probably A. But not entirely for the reasons in that article. I've only used the AH three times so it's not one of those things that are necessarily required if you're willing to grind a bit or are patient enough to take way longer than you should (I'm neither).

The reasons are: 1. Leveling doesn't stop at a level that you can attain just by beating the game normally, so you always feel like you're advancing. 2. You got more "cool" items. It's not even about use here, it's about "hey that item is green and it's part of a set how awesome" or "hey that item is gold it's rare!" even if it sucked. I've found a grand total of two legendaries and no sets so... yeah.

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Of course he's the first two time Liquor Basket Champ he's an alcoholic.

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lolpen indeed

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Non-title: Cena/Cara II
Husky
Barrett
IC Title: Cody (c)
Henry
Layla
Christian/Chavo
Awesome Truth
Bonus: Two wrestlers are getting managers. Name all four people for a point each. Wade Barrett, Abraham Washington, Andy Leavine, Husky Harris
NXT Bonus (2): It's a Rookie v. Main Roster special! Out of 5 matches, how many will the Rookies win? 5

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Sounds like I picked a good Raw to skip if someone's saying it was trash and filler and it wasn't me.

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Bellas got decent yeah.

I bet TNA actually does bring them in though just because for whatever reason they seem determined to keep the KO Tag Title existing.

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Hahaha... 9. You may as well just reassign him another gimmick immediately it's not like you can possibly do worse even with the "you changed the gimmick too soon" penalties.

Seriously though I could've totally you that beforehand loose cannon in this mod is suicide it has like 90 risk and 85 subtlety or something. No skill at pulling it off can save that with most products

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