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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 11:13:10 PM
#437
Jinder Mahal push that sounds more absurd than a cruiserweight push come on man
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 11:09:46 PM
#431
Just to be sure we are saying that you think people shout You Deserve It at TVs in their home right?
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Spy - Day 20
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04/11/17 11:05:48 PM
#25
Michael Westen
Jason Bourne
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 11:02:25 PM
#424
TheRock1525 posted...
Except for the push Neville's had.


All the way to Wrestlemania 33's Kickoff Show.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 11:00:29 PM
#421
StealThisSheen posted...
Even if 60% of the crowd is NXT guys, he was getting way more than 60% of the crowd, so...


He gets 60% of the crowd then the majority of the remainder goes along because WWE's audiences like to participate over all else. Hence the abundance of stock chants like "You Deserve It!"
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:59:26 PM
#418
There's no such thing as an actual push in the cruiserweight division imo
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:51:52 PM
#409
I won't say I've disliked but I haven't been feeling nearly the hype of the NXT audience for him. Hence the italicized probably-- would assume he will perform at a higher level on the main roster though.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:48:57 PM
#405
"He's actually good" was a bit harsh to Tye I actually like Tye.

But he's not as good as the reactions he's getting I guess is what I meant, whereas Nakamura probably is, but I'm not convinced in the least he's earned them at all with most of the people watching the shows yet.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:44:02 PM
#401
Really though if you think about it it just makes sense

People who really care about the product, the ones who care enough to get tickets to WWE crap:

- Are more likely to have the Network
- Thusly, are more likely to watch NXT

Therefore once NXT reaches a certain popularity level you've got like 60% of the audience treating NXT guys like the best thing ever when the general viewing audience is sorta scratching its head as to why the audience is doing what they're doing.

Almost wonder if it'll start alienating viewers. I mean I guess it helps that guys like Nakamura won't need long to actually endear themselves to people because he's actually good. I guess as long as you don't call up too many Tyes it probably won't matter in the long run.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:35:10 PM
#392
I guess we can use Tye's "10" as an argument that Daniel Bryan wasn't that over if we can't use it as a "NXT Reactions mean nothing" so it's really win-win.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:32:43 PM
#388
TheRock1525 posted...
And she doesn't know any NXT wrestlers.


Good enough I guess.

Still have my doubts. And I definitely think crowd reaction on NXT guys isn't worth anything anymore unless you guys really think Tye Dillinger is one of the most over guys on the roster
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:29:35 PM
#386
Then again you just called yourself not an NXT guy I don't know what your definition of a casual watcher even is
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:27:55 PM
#384
What did they cite about his character that resonated with them I'm actually curious
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:26:43 PM
#381
I mean Cena'll be back presumably but he's doing a movie for 6 months or something right
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:25:44 PM
#379
StealThisSheen posted...
Lopen posted...
Yes. Tonight's segment was better but the audience reacting doesn't really gauge how over he is with the viewing audience.


...Since when did we stop gauging by crowd reaction and start going "But we don't know if he's connecting with people watching TV!"

That argument was never raised when anybody else's overness was debated, like Cesaro!


It was raised last week when Nakamura got the reaction he did and the casual watchers I know had reactions like 'is he drunk what's his deal' and 'that segment was too long.'
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:23:55 PM
#376
Yeah Miz and Cena leaving was a huge blow for SD. I can't say this was the worst SD Live ever but it's down there.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:20:03 PM
#368
Yes. Tonight's segment was better but the audience reacting doesn't really gauge how over he is with the viewing audience.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 404: (Diamond Dallas) Page Not Found
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04/11/17 10:18:04 PM
#365
His introduction was bad and I'd still bet good money he isn't as over with audiences as he should be.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 2:43:06 PM
#137
Scumlists not useful without reasoning tbqh
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 2:07:13 PM
#121
Ulti says a lot of things.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 2:01:48 PM
#119
Now come on Arti we don't even see the IGCD Single Leo vote on there.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:58:27 PM
#114
Secretly Arti is scowling at me. To which I say "this is for Minwu you jackass"
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:54:01 PM
#106
Yeah like I said I think it's a super dumb idea but it would be funny if gravy left an exploitable hole in his setup.

It would be the perfect mercs game.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:46:16 PM
#102
Ninja'd son.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:45:43 PM
#99
Er sorry I think the syntax was

##Vote2: Johnbobb
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:41:52 PM
#98
BTW if we do actually do the double vote test thing (which I think is probably not the case but it'd be hilarious if it was) either all group the votes on one guy or vote a guy you already have a vote on. Don't wanna make the voting records too hard to decipher later.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:36:03 PM
#95
Leo's already unvoted. I'll just make a second vote that doesn't count here so we can remove me from the mix if we all decide to do it later.

##Vote: Johnbobb

Also the cool thing about Eaed's role is that if he's not lying he's super useful to have around and lynch to clear him. Basically if you have it down to either him or another guy as scum, you can force one guy to lynch him with the agreement that Eaed poison the suspicious guy when the lynch goes off. Kinda requires timing though (or to be done before do or die) as the poison target can quickly jump off the vote and screw you.

I would like to hear how it exactly it works at night in any case. But for now I trust his claim because it's a no win role for scum to fakeclaim.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 1:01:36 PM
#90
Do you think it's likely Jaded_Eye has a role called BADMIN Conspiracy Target
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 12:11:43 PM
#87
I would still like someone to attempt to double vote while your vote isn't assigned. Johnbobb if you could do that that would be awesome it would save us a lot of headache.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 12:07:47 PM
#85
So do you think that, despite me having the audacity to think you're scum, that my scare theory might still have merit then?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 12:04:01 PM
#84
Also we've already established that Kanzaris was willing to fakeclaim something that you could counterclaim to make your role more credible-- I dunno whose idea that was, probably Kanzaris's, but that was probably the biggest blunder.

Flushing out claims en masse kinda plays to your agenda too-- if you're "confirmed town" due to Scum not possibly being able to have a doublevoter, the only way to deconfirm you is with power roles. Mass claims = you can mow them down before you get found out.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 12:00:41 PM
#82
I don't think it's wifom at all. Would make more sense that you just didn't look through every potential fakeclaim and discuss them beforehand. You know, like most scumboards I've been on in my day.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 11:48:25 AM
#79
One of the plan options is that two plan options take place next week. Shame VI died so soon his role sounds awesome.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 11:46:50 AM
#77
Pretty excited actually. This'll do wonders for my street cred.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 11:38:01 AM
#75
I shall ever hate the mention feature.

All your claim did was give scum information. Whatever. We don't need a cop to win. One of the scum players claimed miller anyway, and then of course there's a godfather there, probably Leo.

Imo likely remaining scum team is

Leo
Scarechan
Oddity

Probably in that order. Admin team probably gets an extra vote that anyone can use to represent the admin tiebreaker, and they just used it to fabricate a fakeclaim. Alternatively an admin could be a double voter-- that'd probably be less stupid and exploitable by dumb tactics like... THIS...

Now I don't know if this is bad form but to test my theory Leo should remove his second vote and then everyone should try to doublevote someone arbitrary and see if it registers on the logs.

To dummyproof it I HOPE gravy made someone need to be delegated during night if the second vote is malleable, but you know, I ain't above abusing the system if it's there to be abused HAVE SOME LOOPHOLES GRAVY !!

Could elaborate on why I think these are the scum if needed-- think I made the case on Leo already.

Scare meanwhile has been mostly unhelpful and with Drakeryn's role being as it is I have my doubts that Dante would be an outright town role-- doubly so because Ulti made no mention of Drak scanning as scum, and Drak would be scummier than Dante being closer to an admin in nature. He also was too willing to accept the idea that there'd be two millers.

Oddity just seems least convincing of the vanilla claims to me and least helpful claimed vanilla in general. Honestly with Survivor + Doublevoter maybe a 4 scum setup is viable though.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 11:23:23 AM
#72
That added no information you damn fool.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 10:53:21 AM
#69
Honestly post 51 is what sold me on IGCD likely being town though. Seems like a good way to react. That's probably what I'd do if a scum was suiciding into me-- the suggested lynch path made sense to me too.

Also I don't think MZero should necessarily have to claim unless he feels like it adds information.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 10:38:08 AM
#61
I didn't even see the contradiction as such but I didn't really buy that claim. Mostly because you getting something game relevant with both of your actions seemed too convenient. Which I guess is sorta what you meant by contradiction I guess. That's why I started by asking for the actual claim.

I do actually buy it was a dumb gambit though.

Anyway who all hasn't claimed at this point? Just MZero, right?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 10:30:26 AM
#56
Oh. Okay.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 10:30:01 AM
#55
Also I would like Benjamin to actually claim. Not sure why that wasn't done.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/11/17 10:18:44 AM
#52
Ehhhh. I guess? It's not really on par with the other flavors roles I gotta say.

I feel like it's more a role JC would give himself than accurate to an unbiased observer. JC's collapse was more due to his ineptitude and more importantly lack of endurance more than the results of any conspiracy. Given Kanzaris is on the scumteam and is probably part of the only faction who really helped conspire against JC in any sort of limited fashion (I will stress limited) yeah I just don't really buy it much. If we're lynching a non-vanilla he's my top pick based on the role alone-- but it also feels like something that would eventually prove itself so maybe low priority.

I would like a bit of flavor elaboration though.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 8:44:48 PM
#460
Mine is similar. Kinda on an island. FFD wasn't big on the whole player interaction thing though so yeah.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 8:36:00 PM
#457
It is kinda interesting though. Iirc Leo's talked about a ' minion ' rather than mentioning a name as well.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 8:32:36 PM
#455
So it's nonspecific. That is peculiar as the ark flavor was apparently specific talking about pjbasis. Do you think much of that?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 8:27:54 PM
#451
Tera I mean
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 8:27:29 PM
#450
Who did he tick off, Oddity?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 8:26:15 PM
#447
If we're all claiming I see no reason to space them like that. It should be as many simultaneously claiming as feasible
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TopicFire Emblem Discussion Topic Part 5: Bet you wish you had Hector Edition
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04/10/17 7:59:38 PM
#452
Yeah I think I've lost like 5000 feathers due to these shifting deadlines. Between matchups closing before 3am EST to ' calculate ' and Arena closing like 7 hours early to 'calculate ' this game is really annoying. Would be much happier if they changed start times and made end times consistent from day to day rather than me needing to remember 5 separate ones depending on what arbitrary cutoff point whatever we're doing has.
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TopicThe Mercenaries CE build review topic part 2
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04/10/17 6:29:31 PM
#416
Yeah I mostly pointed it out to be sure which recharge we would actually be using
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TopicMercenaries 4 Topic 6: Dante Solos Edition
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04/10/17 5:46:53 PM
#432
eaedwards6400 posted...
After I die, I have the ability to poison someone in an aspect that would have me taking someone down with me and this will be confirmed to everyone when I flip. This is considered a twilight ability. So if I am lynched today or I am night killed tonight as long as I am around for the STOP I will have a half hour to decide who I want to poison.


I'd actually like a bit more detail on the poisoner claim. Do you have to say you're going to be vengeful as a night action or do you auto poison whoever kills you no matter how it occurs. Like the phrasing seems to imply you only have half an hour after STOP but that obviously wouldn't make sense for a night kill.
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