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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 4:53:15 PM
#87
IGCD's slip is "read page 7-8 of the last topic" Tony

I asked what he meant by "lynching Death will give information"
He said he thought Johnbobb was town and Kanz was a sure thing
I said "a better reason to do that would be by saying Johnbobb is town"
He said "well I said that"
I pointed out an instance where he VOTED Johnbobb

I think that's too ridiculous to overlook. You may forget things you said, but you're not going to forget who you thought was town. I know because I thought Johnbobb was town! My reaction was very different!
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 3:17:27 AM
#28
Really really doubt Alany was on the safelist. I've picked non safelisted roles before. Just gotta pick something that has sufficiently low chance of being in the game.

Angeal Hewley the Jack of All Trades in FFVII Mafia was my all time favorite. No one challenges the Crisis Core, son.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 3:15:11 AM
#27
If we're ever going to lynch eaed, today is the day. Otherwise scum can outfox it by just jumping off if 3 scum were left even if we're right on who the scum are-- if they do that when we're not at lynch/lose then we can punish.

We should decide who goes on the lynch beforehand though, as well as who eaed should poison.

Now personally I think he should poison IGCD, but I'd also be okay with Scare. Any others would be compromise lynches at best and "no what the hell are you doing" at worst.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 3:06:05 AM
#22
Ark was weird because the flavor given was "took over pj's team + lone shoto" Pj with two flavor references in the game seems dumb-- hell pj with one in the game sounds dumb but I digress. , To me it feels like a claim that may have been chosen because of an existing tether in the game to give it 'credibility' ala Kanzaris fakeclaiming Alany despite Leo2.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:51:11 AM
#17
IIRC it was Oddity as Tera, IGCD as Ark, Tony as Tom.

Possible I'm swapping the first two because I want IGCD to die and that fits my narrative almost too well. I remember discussing Tom's flavor text with Tony though.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:45:52 AM
#15
Can everyone confirm these claims are correct, and also put together the last 4.

Lopen - FFD, Watcher.
Eaed - DC, Vengeful Poisoner
Benjamin - Articuno, Vanilla
MZero - Mewtwo, Vanilla
Scare - Dante, Miller.
Death - Pjbasis, Vanilla.

Then I've also got ArkOfTurus, Tom Bombadil, Terastodon, and KommunistKoala in my head, all as vanillas, but no idea which of those are which.

BTW I love how lucky scum was with hitting power roles christ. I was like "how are there 7 vanillas on the board + a miller" and it's like "well no vanillas are actually dead"

On a purely claims basis I would be inclined to disbelieve:

Dante, Ark, pj, DC. In that order.

We can actually form a decent idea of what a balanced setup looks like at this point given what power there is and isn't. Who does a lot of balancing? What number of vanillas actually looks right? What number of scum?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:29:19 AM
#12
No I have not and I don't think "they implode as town" is a good excuse for anyone. Particularly because Menu said he's never played with scum IGCD in the last topic IIRC.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:18:06 AM
#7
Anyway I just wanna say that IGCD slipped big and I think everyone should read the last few pages of the last topic dammit. Also read how he reacts on post 404 and 405 to pressure and try and explain to me how that makes sense.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:15:01 AM
#6
End of Day 1 Votals
[9] Ulti: (IGCD), Corrik, Lopen, (IGCD), Chris, Leo, Leo2, Scare, Ben, Oddity, IGCD
[3] Johnbobb: (Kanz), Tony, Ulti, Death, (Oddity)
[1] Corrik: Shad, (VI), (Ulti)
[1] Oddity: (Lopen), (Scare), MZero
[1] Tony: (Death), Johnbobb
[0] Shaduln: (Ben), (MZero)
[0] MZero: (Oddity), (Kanz), (Oddity)
[0] Ben: (Ulti), (Scare), (Mzero), (Leo), (Leo2)
[0] Kanz: (MZero), (MZero)
[0] Death: (Chris), (Ben), (Chris), (VI), (Ulti)
[0] IGCD: (Ulti), (Oddity)
[0] Chris: (Corrik)
[0] Leo: (VI), (Ben), (Death), (Oddity), (chris)
[0] Lopen: (IGCD), (Oddity), (Ulti), (Chris)
[0] VI: (Ulti), (Ulti), (Oddity), (Oddity)

End of Day 2 Votals
[7] Kanz: (Corrik), (Oddity), (MZero), (Scare), (Leo), (Leo2), (Tony), (Corrik), Corrik, Ben, Lopen, Leo, Leo2, IGCD, Johnbobb
[5] Johnbobb: Death, (Leo), (Leo2), Oddity, (Menu), Kanz, (IGCD), Menu, Tony
[3] Death: MZero, (Lopen), Scare, (Corrik), (Oddity), (Johnbobb), (Jaded), (IGCD), Jaded, (IGCD)
[1] Ben: Eaed, (Tony), (Leo), (Leo2), (IGCD)
[0] Oddity: (Kanz), (Jaded), (Tony)
[0] Jaded: (Menu)
[0] Corrik: (IGCD)
[0] Eaed: (Kanz), (Menu)
[0] Menu: (Corrik)

End of Day 3 Votals
[7] Johnbobb - Lopen, Tony, Death, eaed, oddity, Menu, Scare
[1] Lopen - (Leo), (Leo2), (Oddity), (Tony), Johnbobb
[1] Death - MZero
[1] ben - jaded
[0] Leo - (IGCD)
[0] IGCD - (Ben)
[0] Oddity - (Tony)
[0] eaed - (Tony)
[0] Jaded - (Ben), (Leo), (Leo2)
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:11:48 AM
#5
Unofficial votals
[2] Ben - Tony, eaed
[2] Oddity - Menu, MZero
[1] IGCD - Lopen
[1] eaed - IGCD
[1] Death - (MZero), Scare
[0] Scare - (IGCD), (Ben)
[0] Tony - (Ben)

No idea how to parse that vote Ben
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 2:02:40 AM
#474
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75235762

I understand you all hate me very much and wish to cause mercs hosting PTSD to flare up.

New topic.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 8: Buy Brock.
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04/14/17 2:01:40 AM
#1
people outlasting ""the meeting room""(10):

1. Ben
4. IfGodCouldDie
6. Death (replaced JC)
8. Oddity
9. Tony
10. Eaed
12. Scare
14. Mzero
16. MenuWars (replaced Shad)
17. Lopen

in the afterlife mercs golden corral happy hour (8):

LD1: Ulti: Drakeryn, INDEPENDENT Spectator (renamed Survivor)
KN1: ""Sir"" ""Chris"": Boko, TOWN Doctor
KN1: JeezyMiyagi, TOWN RNJesus
LD2:. Kanz: Luis, BADMIN Yes Man
KN2: Corrik: trdl, TOWN Thief
LD3 Johnbobb: Lopen, BADMIN "The" Badmin
MKN3: Jaded_Eye: JC, TOWN Conspiracy Target
KN3: Leo: KanzarisKelshen, TOWN Scumlord

It is now Day 4. With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends Friday 4/14/2017 at 10:00PM EST.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 1:38:34 AM
#468
I'm arguing because I'm frustrated that more people are discussing Death's potential as scum than IGCD's when I feel I've caught him in a damn good slip, and instead I get vaugeries like "well I don't know how IGCD acts as town" or "there is a lot of sloppiness in this game and it can't all be scum."
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 1:30:39 AM
#465
Also you know what's a scum trait?

Trying to put suspicion on as many targets as possible at any given moment.

Gives you nice bus flexibility if your scumbuddy happens to be one of them.

I would say certainty, or at least, being assertive with your feelings, is generally more a town trait than scum, personally. Certainty for scum only enters play in gambits, but generally the winning scumplay is to stir up suspicions around as many people as possible while keeping as low a profile as possible.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 1:25:13 AM
#464
Of course I question my reads. In this game I practically feel like I'm the only one who is, which is frustrating.

I was one pushing for Death on Day 2 if you recall!

But like, I just don't think saying "JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR MENUWARS COULD BE SCUM" everytime I say I lean town on you accomplishes anything of use.
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TopicIn case you didn't know, being the only sober person surrounded by drunks blows
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04/14/17 1:23:16 AM
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I think it depends a lot on the person who's getting drunk.

I've been around the most annoying people on earth, being related to some of them, and I've been around people I'm pretty okay with.

I think the louder the person is when sober the worse they are drunk, generally. Quiet people who get drunk I've usually been okay with, even while being sober myself. But of course this is just my experience, and I'm someone who gets drunk often enough myself so I'm probably less judgmental than some people.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 1:13:24 AM
#460
I think reaffirming that you don't trust anyone, even on guys you aren't actually suspicious of currently, is at best masturbatory and at worst distracting to productive scumhunting.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 405: We're All Shook Up
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04/14/17 1:08:49 AM
#247
Just saw Strowman's beatdown of Roman

Man I was rolling at the second and especially the third attack. That was awesome. I kept watching the whole thing until he was literally off the screen, expecting Strowman to do his Skifree Yeti impersonation at any moment to the driving ambulance.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 1:00:31 AM
#456
You're bad at maffs if you would seriously humor that scum just ate itself alive day 2. A little bit of paranoia is good but I'm kinda curious what could possibly confirm anyone as town to you outside of double votes or you having a scan, or someone else having a scan aside from MAH GUT.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:48:24 AM
#453
I think there's a huge difference between a random token vote early in the day where scum voted scum and "there was literally no train built on day 2 that was not scum centric"
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:42:52 AM
#449
I am looking and I see... Kanzaris had a vote on Johnbobb at one point? So? One scum voting a scum is not some elaborate trap.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:40:11 AM
#447
MenuWars posted...
Honestly with the way Kanz and JB were voting themselves, it seems they've been laying a votals trap the entire game, which is why I'm not discounting Death.


They weren't. Not really. JB went to Kanz to save himself at the last, but was on Death before. Kanz was on JB after he had a claim everyone hated, but I felt he'd left the option open in his narrative to jump on Death if needed.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:37:56 AM
#445
Major mercs players remaining

Me
Scare

I think a few others may have lurked slightly, but probably not enough to have any idea on flavor that makes sense.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:32:32 AM
#439
To explain, Oddity flubbed the wording there
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:27:45 AM
#433
Death is the dumbest possibility to humor as scum

Like the absolute dumbest. I mean MZero continuing to be stubborn about it, for as good as I thought the initial theory of Death "slipped," is making me think he might be scum. Feels like this crusade against Death is a crutch to mask the lack of overall scumhunting.

Like consider what the scumteam had to be doing day 2-- did they just all get together, make some masterplan, and say "hey, let's all vote scum day 2, all day. It'll throw everyone way the hell off!" You guys are seriously way overthinking the game, or letting scum way overthink the game for you.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:17:27 AM
#429
ScareChan posted...
Death this game felt most like his GoT 1 Death, and his interactions with Johnbobb, along with my interactions with him make me most confident in him


BTW, to address a point made yesterday, what about Death's interactions with Johnbobb make you think he's scum.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/14/17 12:02:31 AM
#423
@eaedwards6400 you did not answer the extra credit question I posed to you-- why did you not lynch anyone at the end of day 2 despite being around to do so.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:26:12 PM
#399
I mean honestly the big thing here is that if you don't remember, and you're town, why not just say "I don't remember exactly why I was saying that." Why make things up?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:19:46 PM
#393
ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
So lynch ed and have him poison me.


this... sounds ok?


This was my thought too btw.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:17:16 PM
#388
Like as an example

I thought Johnbobb was town at the end of day 2. If pressed for info a few days later, yeah I could remember details too, but if I was badgering myself for said details, and I flubbed em slightly, I wouldn't think it's a slip.

If I outright said "I thought Johnbobb was scum but I thought Kanzaris was scummier" that to me isn't something that's acceptable to forget.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:14:56 PM
#386
I'm not asking you to remember the details I'm asking you to remember the emotions, which you clearly do not.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:12:17 PM
#381
Emotions are the easiest things to remember, though, if they're not fabricated. Especially in a high pressure situation like day 2. That's why I don't think you actually need a good memory to at least remember whether you thought someone was town or scum.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:09:21 PM
#373
Trick question because you're not going to flip town unless your role name is town.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:08:19 PM
#372
It really doesn't, with feelings at least, I could give you how I felt about every player in the game over time.

I couldn't tie to the exact whys, but you're never going to catch me saying "I thought a guy was town" and then show record of me voting for them and calling BS on a claim.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 7:06:20 PM
#370
Because he was trying to explain why Death would give the most information, which was just a fluff statement, and he fell into the trap?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:58:28 PM
#366
MenuWars posted...
Where is topic 6 I can't find it in the archives, but topic 7 is there... am I being blind?


You need to search "mercenaries" mafia wasn't in that title.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:57:05 PM
#362
I'm voting you because I think you're scum.

As the great Judge Judy has often said "if you're telling the truth you don't need a good memory"
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:53:11 PM
#360
Man I love it when scum doesn't refresh the page.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:51:44 PM
#358
So to you the decision was Death vs Kanzaris, and you felt confident in Kanzaris being town? Was Johnbobb even on your radar? Were you aware he was a lynch candidate? Also why did you like the Kanzaris claim when it was countered by Leo2?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:47:54 PM
#356
##Vote: IGCD

Explain why you think I'm voting you while you're at it.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:47:17 PM
#355
Btw

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Oh never mind I was reading BP as BG, yea I'm not a fan of thinking you could exist as a BP with untargetable.

##Unvote
##Vote:JB


Explain this vote, if you thought Johnbobb was town? Post 63, topic 6
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:45:41 PM
#354
Not sure you did, but I do know you said "Death will provide more information" a lot more

You also said Kanzaris would provide information, but now are doubling back on that. Why do you think you felt differently at the end of day 2 as it relates to the amount of information Kanzaris would provide vs now.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:42:09 PM
#352
If you thought Johnbobb was town, wouldn't "Johnbobb is town" be a better case to lynch Death?
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04/13/17 6:36:12 PM
#350
Well it's particularly glaring in your case because you'd actually been there for hours beforehand then out of nowhere went radio silent and conveniently had their vote left on Death. Did you just pass out from sickness?

Contrast with Oddity who'd been gone most of the day, checked in late, said "can only be here 10 minutes, still feel good about Johnbobb" and then peaced out again.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:24:24 PM
#347
Last Saturday.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:15:52 PM
#345
Like, in particular, why there would be more indication of Death shedding light on alignments vs Johnbobb. What gave you that feeling.
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04/13/17 6:14:23 PM
#343
IGCD explain please.

And I said Oddity was not there for the lynch, and said he was not going to be there, not that he's not here. Eaed was there and chose inaction.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 6:03:12 PM
#338
There was nothing of value to ask Oddity. He wasn't there, and said he wasn't there beforehand.

And John and Kanz both know a lot about mercs
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Topic1006-verse: wait how did that purge [tew]
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04/13/17 5:05:48 PM
#25
I make and/or pick out the pics, depending on how good 9000verse/my collection of wrestler pics is. I don't have any pics beyond that though I've made some preliminary choices. CPU uploaded a bunch of potential pic material for the more obscure guys we have. I think that' still on the dropbox.

150x150 is the standard but I guess 100x100 works.

I don't mean to shunt the work onto anyone else since I'm the guy who really wants the pics, but it has been tough to devote time between work and social activites. I believe there was a pics column on the spreadsheet where I'd updated ones I'd picked pics for.

Anyway yeah the more times I try to devote time to the pic mill... it'll eventually work, I swear.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 7: If You Want Peacetime, Prepare For Wartime
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04/13/17 4:58:21 PM
#305
Supplemental questions:

Scare - What did you have to attend to at the end of day 2? Where did you go?

Eaed - Why didn't you vote at the end of day 2?

IGCD - Why did you feel Death would provide us the most information over Johnbobb.

MZero - Do you really think we had a 3 scum lynch day 2? Have you reread Kanz's or JB's posts and felt it made sense that Death would be scum? Would a scumteam that's behind continue to pursue lynching Death?
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