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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/12/19 4:26:11 PM
#137
I think you misunderstood what I meant. Yeah there is an argument to be made that Austin gets over anyway just on the KotR and feud with Bret, and that McMahon as an evil boss character (who imo was a draw) can do it without an extended program with Austin, but I don't really agree with that. Patterson and Brisco being the main beneficiaries seems absurd to me.

nWo is another storyline that isn't about one guy being better than another, and a company was basically made competitive entirely off of it. I would not say random mooks like Buff Bagwell gained the most out of that either. Goldberg's streak was arguably not about one guy being better than another either-- though it was rooted in simplicity as well.

Anyway what I was more saying that for guys lower on the totem pole, having those types of storylines where it's not one guy vs another guy can establish characters more efficiently and make them better usable for the money one guy vs another guy matches. But it has to make sense. You can't just force a character on a guy who already had an established one and make it work. But if instead of Lashley this was a debuting guy you wanted to have some womanizer type gimmick it might actually serve a purpose.

If you want a good storyline that didn't involve dudes being better than other dudes from WWE in recent memory, The Fashion Files are probably your best example even if it wasn't followed through properly. The guys got way more over doing that goofy comedy than they would have feuding with anyone.

Like I said there are more duds than great things from these types of storylines but a well crafted storyline that has more than just guy vs other guy can do a lot more in terms of drawing potential overall. But yeah they're overused to be sure. That's why there are a lot more duds than great ones out there. The problem isn't that the storylines are inherently bad just that they're misused pretty often.
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TopicWould you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?
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11/12/19 3:37:43 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Okay, so this is the potential pool as of now:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oMXJ7yV_srLGwN7WBO1YgGAIzobC2ZgHohGI5jz5y-E/edit?usp=sharing

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/12/19 3:25:43 PM
#134
Sure. I get it. I mean I'd consider say, the only good WWE storylines of the past 10-15 years-- Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker, CM Punk vs John Cena, AJ Styles vs John Cena, Jericho vs Shawn Michaels, to be rooted in one guy being better than the other, and these were good storylines, and there was more nuance to it than just that, which is fine.

I don't think it's a dirty word but I don't think doing something more is necessarily bad either is all. I feel like the very best American Wrestling stories (now 20+ years old) have not been rooted in that. Most of the second tier has been-- and most of the bottom tier has not been rooted in that either so it's clearly risky, but yeah.

Strangely I actually think the non-main eventer types are the ones who gain more, because storylines not directly about one guy being better than the other can be better used to develop characters and stuff. Once you have those characters established and cared about, then doing the simpler storylines is generally better.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/12/19 2:44:35 PM
#131
Yeah I think it's revisionist history to say that the storyline didn't work to help Bryan overall

Like, it's an easy argument to make that because they had to audible so many steps to actually let Bryan break through there and that it wasn't that way by design to begin with that the storyline had a lot of potential to hurt Bryan and it was almost by sheer luck that it ended up working, and had a lot more potential to kill him, and I wouldn't even necessarily disagree with that... but...

In the end I think Bryan gained something from it, more than he would have had he not been jerked around so much. Was the gain worth the risk? Probably not, but if you had competent writing there's less risk, too.

Like if we're saying current WWE should always just be "who is better let's fight" I wouldn't disagree with you because they haven't actually intentionally made any storyline better than that since arguably as far back as that very same Austin/McMahon. But there is potential, assuming good writing.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/12/19 2:35:17 PM
#128
Yeah I think there is a place for wrestling storylines that aren't "I'm better than you let's fight"

I do feel they should be a rarity more than the norm though. Wrestling, WWE in particular, is often overly concerned with creating "fresh storylines" when the default should be to keep the feuds simple unless the characters/histories lend themselves to something better. And they often don't-- that's not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself but you should know the limits of the character development you've put in.

Like you look at a guy like Rusev or a guy like Lashley and they just don't have fleshed out characters to the point where any other type of storyline makes sense. And really if Rusev and Lashley just wanted to beat each other up because they're both strong dudes who want to show they're the strongest, it'd be so much better. I love two big bruisers just smashing each other. No need to bother with stupid shit like a tug of war or arm wrestling either as it doesn't make sense for the characters to want THAT, just let em fight.
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TopicSonic the Hedgehog new trailer
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11/12/19 12:01:58 PM
#34
It'll probably be alright. I felt Sonic's zippy one liners to be kinda obnoxious in the trailer but being completely honest about it they kinda are in the games too.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/12/19 11:45:17 AM
#120
A lot of it is just using the right characters too. Like if you had a Val Venis or a Joey Ryan or whatever type on your roster this type of storyline becomes a lot more natural with no real work needed. Bobby Lashley doesn't really fit though-- he's just a generic muscular body. Rusev doesn't really play into it super well either as you never really had any pattern of the guy being super protective or anything like that.

Feel like lately any sort of adultery storyline is just like, these guys don't have anything to do let's give them a stupid reason to feud that's worse than the simple "I'm better than you let's fight" That doesn't mean it can never work but you gotta make some basic effort to make it feel natural and believable.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results [smfffc]
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11/12/19 11:05:57 AM
#317
I agree basing the saves off the user is lame

Basing the trades accepted off the user is completely fine though.
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
Lopen
11/12/19 12:00:22 AM
#147
Disputing moderation never works. You're walking a doomed path.
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
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11/11/19 11:50:35 PM
#144
That seems to be the gist. Or else he's very poorly communicating his point.
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
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11/11/19 11:35:07 PM
#141
foolm0r0n posted...
The whole skill is identifying and eliminating the ambiguities


This helps but is not as easy as you are trying to claim here.

I do agree everyone should take some technical communication classes and such cause it's just useful, but some people just don't click with remote communication as well and it's not a complete overlap in skills either-- though I do agree knowing good technical communication will make you better at explaining things in person too.

But yeah it's part personalities and part it not being entirely plausible to hit every ambiguity for every person. You can say "it is, git gud" but it really isn't. Basically the best you can hope for is removing the most common misunderstandings. Often that will be enough, but when it isn't you lose a lot of productivity because it won't as immediately become clear that it isn't.

I think any good collaboration should start with a good remote friendly base like some good documentation or even just a group email laying out objectives or whatever, but yeah sometimes, especially once you've laid that groundwork, it just isn't the optimal way to work through things-- this is especially true as your teams shrink and it becomes plausible to work one on one with all relevant members of a team.

Also it doesn't help that most programmers are incredibly bad at technical communication fundamentals in my experience, particularly when communicating with non-programmers. You can say everyone should be trained in it but the reality is they simply aren't. Swiveling chairs may not always be optimal but it is better than the alternative of things straight up not getting done.

Anyway I'm just saying this topic is being dumbed down a lot. On both sides, really. Remote always better is solid theorycraft and works in a perfect world, but if you're seriously arguing it I feel that shows a lack of breadth in experience, being extremely lucky with who you've worked with, or a delusion on how well you're being understood across the board and not absorbing how many delays those misunderstandings are causing cause it's not directly through you. In person always better is probably closer to right imo, but it will depend on the cost of doing that and the teams you're working with, obviously.
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
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11/11/19 10:33:41 PM
#131
In person you can read things like body langauge to intuit points of confusion, see where their eyes are focusing on their screen as you explain things, stuff like that. There's a lot more stuff you can process at once to determine where misunderstandings are or could occur.

I also find many people who don't entirely understand are more likely to take a leap at what you're getting at in person which can really get you to any points of confusion quickly, whereas with remote they'll just mindlessly agree or not say anything on things that are slightly ambiguous, thinking they'll figure it out when they've digested it, coming to you later when they don't.

It kinda needs a different set of skills than remote communication to exploit the benefits but with communicating with a lot of people, particularly in environments with wide ranges of skill and experience, they are there.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results [smfffc]
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11/11/19 10:21:45 PM
#286
I'd always save Gaff with fairly high priority but I feel like I'm the only one of his core that would unfortunately

Braska probably gets booted in the next year or two.
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
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11/11/19 9:54:11 PM
#123
He can think he's a lot more clever than he is and still be the smartest guy at his workplace to be fair. He thinks he's really clever so there's a wide range for values to fall there!
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TopicWould you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?
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11/11/19 9:33:19 PM
#14
I'll play with the caveat Metalmind gave and with it being known that I'm probably going to just draft a team that I know/like more than stuff that's effective since the power scale on the mutants are kinda imbalanced (clearly I'll need the readability votes to carry)
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
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11/11/19 9:29:09 PM
#119
Lopen posted...
If it's just about being able to say "well I did my part they didn't understand me" then sure


This mindset strikes me as what foolmo is btw and why he thinks remote is better every time. Communicate remotely to save time, check the boxes that make you think everything should be clear, blame it on dumb co-workers when they don't understand something or they don't make it clear what they don't understand about what you did or said. Would fit in with how he acts on the board to a t pretty much.
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TopicMoving to San Francisco
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11/11/19 9:22:29 PM
#116
Speaking as someone who works remotely often, and has coworkers that are very foolmoey (though not nearly as extreme) in how they think...

I fully believe if everyone was like foolmo claims to be, that in highly tech oriented professions where presence was mostly unneeded working remotely would be optimal almost all the time. It does remove a lot of overhead cost.

It's not a realistic scenario though. Communication breakdowns occur, no matter how clearly things are communicated. Many people do not possess the technical communication skills to hash things out as effectively via remote. It's not just about how well you can communicate but also how well the others can receive and process your communication, and being able to absorb where they're failing to understand things efficiently so you can clarify things efficiently.

If you don't care and are only considering your own efficiency in a vacuum rather than overall team efficiency, sure. If it's just about being able to say "well I did my part they didn't understand me" then sure. Many very competent people just aren't wired in a way where going purely remote isn't going to add a lot of its own overhead in needing to take more effort to explain and communicate things.
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TopicWould you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?
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11/11/19 8:51:43 PM
#9
So basically mercs without the game mechanicy stuff and with mutants instead of vg characters?

Sounds awesome. How many would each team be drafting?
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results [smfffc]
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11/11/19 2:15:09 PM
#246
Let's just nominate Ormi and Logos and do a Leblanc Syndicate run next year instead
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results [smfffc]
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11/11/19 12:01:49 PM
#242
Not sure that was norepeats as much as a combination of comic voters and Lightning voters wanting the easiest goat
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Topicwow gaoru feels so good to play
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11/11/19 12:00:25 PM
#10
I'd also pay a lot more than $4 I suppose but I'd be rushing out to buy it now for $4

Still vaguely considering it but eh
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Topicwow gaoru feels so good to play
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11/11/19 11:29:47 AM
#8
That's a shame no online on the $4 switch version I'd totally buy it
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TopicWhat are some of your guilty pleasure movies?
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11/11/19 11:14:05 AM
#26
Street Fighter the Movie

Raul Julia's Bison is good enough for me to enjoy the movie no matter how bad it is
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results [smfffc]
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11/10/19 8:22:29 PM
#68
I care about Edward (despite not voting for him much ar all in the latter half)

Dude lasted like 40 rounds without comics he has non-zero support
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/10/19 4:34:36 PM
#111
Why would anyone dislike Orange Cassidy

I mean I could see if his 'offense' was getting sold but he does his stuff, looks like a fool, and gets laid out or ignored. It's great fun. It's not like Santino or Joey Ryan where the comedy offense is doing damage.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final:Edward/Lightning 2 [smfffc]
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11/09/19 10:41:24 PM
#89
what a rotten way to die
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final:Edward/Lightning 2 [smfffc]
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11/09/19 6:59:17 PM
#40
SaveEstelle posted...
Lopen posted...
I hope Edward somehow wins by 5 or less to punish this sycophantic pity vote pandering


You do not seem to understand me at all and tend to assume the worst from everyone lol


Silence, mewling puddle of saccharine! I can take no more!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
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11/09/19 5:49:15 PM
#92
I'd actually order Full Gear if I could buy it on any Binge On compatible platforms. Don't want to murder my data plan 3 days into the cycle for it though
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final:Edward/Lightning 2 [smfffc]
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11/09/19 5:47:48 PM
#18
I hope Edward somehow wins by 5 or less to punish this sycophantic pity vote pandering
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 4:44:29 PM
#485
Lightning 11 in case I miscounted or saved wrong somewhere
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 3:39:15 PM
#453
Lightning 788 and 789 but not 10
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 2:35:07 PM
#429
Lightning 7
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TopicMWC talks pro wrestling topic 1: "Plans change, 11.99 please"
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11/09/19 1:39:18 PM
#57
Like really, ignore the cringeworthy segment to segment content of the Rusev/Lashley storyline for a moment

When were Rusev and Lana having problems to begin with to lead into this
Hell when did Rusev and Lana exist to begin with to lead into this
Why is Bobby Lashley the guy to do this out of all guys on the roster other than he needed something to do
Alternatively tldr why are all the characters completely different than they were before this storyline
Why is this being played straight when the content is this stupid. Ham it up more.
Where is any of it going to lead. Are Lana Rusev or Lashley going to gain any interesting nuance to their characters because of this

Between this and the stupid Sami Zayn feud I feel really bad for Lashley
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 1:30:40 PM
#404
Lightning 7
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TopicMWC talks pro wrestling topic 1: "Plans change, 11.99 please"
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11/09/19 1:29:41 PM
#56
Thanks

Still a super bad segment though

Go watch some 1999 Thunder if you want to like bad wrestling ironically and not have me scoff at you. WWE can't pull that off right now because most of the bad stuff is big picture, on a presentation, character building, pacing, or continuity level. The actual segment to segment content being terrible at times is a pretty small piece of the picture.

Choppy choppy pee pee was actually a well written storyline in a lot of ways. It was dumb as hell but it had clear consistent character motivations and a self awareness in the presentation that made it enjoyable in a weird way that bad segments in WWE just don't have anymore.
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TopicMWC talks pro wrestling topic 1: "Plans change, 11.99 please"
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11/09/19 1:06:34 PM
#53
Ironically liking something that is just bad doesn't really help you save face for liking it. There's an art to being so bad it's good it can't just be slapped on things willy nilly.
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TopicMWC talks pro wrestling topic 1: "Plans change, 11.99 please"
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11/09/19 12:29:18 PM
#40
WWE is actually copying TNA

Judas Mesias is still a pretty big deal to this day
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 12:19:53 PM
#373
Lightning 7
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TopicMWC talks pro wrestling topic 1: "Plans change, 11.99 please"
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11/09/19 11:10:39 AM
#32
Bray calling an Arm Drag the Judas Effect might be a worse blunder in announcing the name of a maneuver than Michael Cole's ever made
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 11:06:15 AM
#349
Lightning 6
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/09/19 2:10:20 AM
#238
Lightning 5
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/08/19 11:21:20 PM
#175
Lightning 4
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TopicDumb Chocobos
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11/08/19 9:34:03 PM
#16
ertyu0078 posted...
No not hung is more dumb kirby


Kirby is more dumb when he's not hung

I can't stop reading it like this and I hate it
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/08/19 9:31:32 PM
#135
Lightning 3
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/08/19 8:06:00 PM
#85
Lightning 2
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI Final: Edward/Lightning [smfffc]
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11/08/19 6:23:15 PM
#34
Lightning
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TopicWhat is the least memorable Gen 1 pokemon?
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11/08/19 1:28:15 AM
#220
Personally I've never raised a Pidgey

Spearow/Fearow has at least been on early teams. Hoot Hoot too.

Starly is actually the only flying type I've really raised though.

Not that I'm calling Pidgey forgettable just saying
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TopicScarlet Ranks User-Nominated Episodes of Television: Season 2
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11/07/19 11:24:19 PM
#224
Scarlet will control the horizontal and the vertical soon I believe in him
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 98 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/07/19 11:18:32 PM
#425
Uhhh

I feel like a list for me is kinda pointless cause I so often change priorities based on momentum and what's new and whatever else. But I'll give you a hierarchy I wouldn't find embarrassingly inaccurate for AI Lopen. List is generalized. Just trying to list everything that I've considered anti-voting or voting at any point. Probably missed some.

1. X-Death
2. Algus
3. Genesis
4. Minwu
5. Sephiroth
6. Yuffie
7. Rikku
8. Seymour
9. Leblanc
10. Setzer
11. Gaffgarion
12. Vanille
13. Red Mage
14. Agrias
15. Sabin
16. Squall
17. Faris
18. Tidus
19. Agnes Oblige
20. Mustadio
21. Edgar
22. Cid Pollendina
23. Delita
24. Wakka
25. Rydia
26. Rufus Shinra
27. Cloud Strife
28. Cloud of Darkness
29. Sazh
30. Lightning
31. Snow
32. Ashe
33. Basch
34. Ultimecia
35. Zack Fair
36. Gilgamesh
37. Mog
38. Galuf
39. Ramza
40. Celes
41. Zell
42. Doomtrain
43. Edward
44. Balthier
45. Auron

74. Selphie
75. Chocobo
76. Irvine
77. Vayne
78. TG Cid
79. Tiz
80. Red XIII
81. Fang
82. Hope
83. Fran
84. Beatrix
85. Krile
86. Isaaru
87. Shuyin
88. Lenne
89. Dona
90. Braska
91. Rosa
92. Palom
93. Porom
94. Eiko
95. Relm
96. Rinoa
97. Steiner
98. Edea Lee
99. Zidane
100. Terra
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 98 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/07/19 10:37:11 PM
#416
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I never got why people are so opposed to pre-announced or heads-up start times tbqh


If you're doing a Discord Ping why not

I kinda wish there was no ping either though
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