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Yeah that person has been talking it up on the BBIG reddit for some time.

Honestly if we close over $3 that is a pretty big victory so I can see why the hype is trying to be brought-- the cost to borrow has been going through the roof so it's pretty costly to short-- but the market maker really doesn't want more ITM contracts.

The $3.50 options are what I'd ideally want to push it real good. It's certainly possible. Last time we hit some hyped monthlies at a threshold was back in October and the attempt to contain failed spectacularly.

I don't feel safe at a few cents over $3 though that's for sure. I just think if we hit say $3.20 today it could shoot straight to $4 as the market maker readjusts their position to be able to cover contracts.

Next week getting the PR about the Tyde dividend seems likely though if they intend to distribute early 2022 (they need to give the market 8-10 days heads up). I'm still very hopeful for my $3.50cs for next week

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Being this pumped up $0.14

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Well if they did update it I didn't notice. Got a Beatrix Holy resist lowering lmr dupe. Oh well

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They do better drops yet?

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Voted option 2

Probably trust police about as much as most people voting option 3

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Hbthebattle posted...

Lopen, the fact that youre still trying to bend over backwards to defend Ulti is exactly why the politics topic treats you the way it does. Why do you continue to defend takes from people who you know are only there to stir up shit? Who you know are arguing in bad faith?

Everyone in the politics topic is arguing in bad faith aside from like one or two.

The only difference with Ulti is he is expressing a viewpoint you don't like. I'm not going to suddenly act like he's wrong when he's right just because Ulti said it.

The fact that you're saying I should disregard a valid viewpoint because of who said it is a perfect illustration of why the politics topic is a cesspool

Ulti was right about that. I live in New Mexico, so I probably see more Native Americans in a year than most of you do in a lifetime because they're actually not a super huge minority here. I'm also half (or something resembling that-- don't know the exact 23 and me of my father) Native American-- yeah, I know, weird, right-- must be making that up, lol.

Just because certain Native Americans were loud about it (you get an inaccurate sampling because the number of Native Americans who aren't cool with being called Indians has a disproportionate overlap with those Natives that are politically active vs the population at large) doesn't mean that's general consensus by any stretch, and as Plum said the reason change was made was because of rich white people.

Frankly people who think Cleveland Native Americans is a better team name (they are the guardians which is a better team name to be fair) aren't getting the problem with the team name to begin with.

Now here's the thing with racism and bigotry, man. If you're basing it on something someone DOES and not what they ARE it's in fact not those things. You can think someone who is non-binary is an idiot, even for things relating to their gender identity, if it doesn't trace back to the fact of their existence. You saying "well, you're a bigot if you think they're playing behind" when the issue is tangentially related to their identity at best means you're not actually thinking about the issue at hand, but rather just looking for excuses to put a person down rather than engage an idea in earnest. It's okay to have a bad first impression of someone based on their behavior.

Feeling a need to make people learn a specialized pronoun that they'll likely only ever use for you is a matter of behavior, not a matter of gender identity. So no I'm not going to say you were justified in thinking I was treading anywhere near a bigoted line-- you just don't know what bigotry actually is and are using it as a way to dress up people you don't like. Which is gross and cost you a ton of respect points in my mind even if you're backpedaling super hard as this topic goes.

Like I've been grouped with SephsG in terms of my viewpoints

I've been called, or heavily implied to be, a racist, due to certain viewpoints about BLM and George Floyd and rioting, even if I agree with the overall movement.

I've been called in this topic a bigot due to thinking that "any gender identification is fine, but when it bleeds into needing a specialized pronoun it's a sign of a need for attention/validation rather than gender expression, and is missing the point of pronouns to begin with"

I mean I could go into details of my life, that people here who actually know me know make these statements patently ridiculous, but I'd be accused of making it up anyway because of how incredibly on the nose it is. And frankly, I simply don't care what people who have that kind of mindset think anyway because I know it's wrong and no one I actually respect here, and no one I know personally, thinks that about me. I don't have anything to prove to you-- keep being depressed as you venomously discuss politics, not having the energy to do anything to change anything about your life or the state of the world, but think that virtue signaling to the world makes you a better person.

It's not for me. And it's why I have the politics topic blocked-- it would actually be bad for my mental health reading it unless I compromised on actually critically thinking about stuff, because even if you respectfully disagree you try to get painted into a viewpoint you weren't even expressing because it's all a bunch of bad faith arguing in there.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

not really. you should see how hard people go after LotM for liking biden.

seems like lopen is basing his caricature of the politics topic on his experience of posting there a whopping three times or something.

I used to be a politics topic regular lmao

Then I realized it was a waste of time because you know that picture with the kid playing with blocks and philosophers relating to gender that para thought was super clever?

That's most of the politics topic on actual politics. A bunch of kids throwing blocks and food at each other when someone tries to say something not unanimously positive about the block they like.

Richter

Honestly I think b8 (NOW, not the jp and MYC days-- those were awful times where most of us were high school age and it showed) is pretty chill and nice.

The caveat is that you must block the politics tag (this should have been tagged politics) because politics topics are the breeding ground for posters who repair their own battered self esteem by deluding themselves into thinking anyone who disagrees with them is the absolute unredeemable scum of the earth.

Honestly I think MYC herself would admit to being an asshole so yeah it is a bit obnoxious to have it framed that way.

I knew her okay. We talked on AIM somewhat often. Not extha level of friendship but probably more than whoever this MrGreenonion character was with her.

Well no I don't and neither does the trans community. Lol. That's my whole point. If you want actual acceptance to occur, you need to engage everyone. Strongarming your ideas onto English grammar doesn't mean people accept.

Also Para already said that plenty of trans people think it makes things look stupid too so ???

The only one bringing out any hatred from me is you dude. Never have had any discussion about this with any person I've met-- as I said I ignore it.

HashtagSEP posted...

literally something you've said multiple times that you do.

Nope. I look upon people who insist on using a weird pronoun. It has nothing to do with their gender identity. "They" should be good enough for them-- and that's not bigotry to suggest that's just how fucking pronouns work.

I'm not the authority on how it makes the trans community look to society as large.

But the trans community sure as hell isn't either was my point.

You didn't like the idea of making an analog to less accepted religious groups-- how about North Korea? Wait that's probably offensive.

The point is people inside the community are not the ones who have the best perspective on how the world at large feels about them. Weird, I know. Not bigoted in the least to suggest, either, just realistic. Sorry that offends you.

HashtagSEP posted...

Again, I never actually said you're a bigot. I said the strawman you created, that somebody would look at neopronouns and go "NO, THIS RUINS TRANS ACCEPTANCE FOR ME FOREVER, FUCK TRANS" would be somebody who is probably bigoted to begin with.

No, you did, and I'm the one who pointed out a strawman you made. Then you started backpedaling to "I'm not even necessarily saying Lopen is a bigot" and then now to "I never said Lopen is a bigot." I assume it's because I wasn't giving you the "nuh uh I'm not a bigot because ___" argument you were fishing for.

Why? Because I simply didn't give a shit what you were calling me because I know how far offbase it is as does anyone on this board who knows me at any sort of personal level. You keep being that left stickman-- I'll just ignore you from now on. Very easy.

I mean the only real defense is to minimize your exposure to cloud based services until this blows over. Like I'm sure the major players like Steam and Apple are patched by now, but if they're not, try not to use em.

Beyond that it really only affects you if you're a provider of web based stuff or if you're IT who needs to be aware of which of those providers are touching their networks.

At least this is how I understand it.

I feel like if you run and chase the liberal stick figure it still yells bigot at you if you're still standing only slightly rightward of it.

Source: SEP in this topic lmao.

These 12/23 3.5c are feeling great right now.

Huge red day tries to swallow up the BBIG run? BBIG don't care. BBIG gonna resume running now.

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Burning is the worst example because Fire does everything burning does and doesn't only have one move.

Burning is basically everything I don't want in a Kirby ability

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Corrik7 posted...

Pretty much declaring pronouns across the board is dumb and silly, but if it makes someone happy, then what harm is done by trying your best to do so if it causes nothing adverse to yourself or others in doing so.

This is basically my stance on the topic-- I just want to make that clear. I think it got lost because I was saying things too abrasively, but when I say I'm judging someone for it it's not that I think they're a horrible person-- there are plenty of amazing people out there who excessively crave attention. It's just a character flaw that you need to overcome-- we all have them. Ultimately I will respect your wishes and call you by your pronoun if I can remember and not bring it up unless you're a dick about it because I mean if it makes you happy whatever, and on the grand scheme of things it just doesn't matter much.

Like on a linguistic spectrum I think it's totally idiotic (pronouns are MEANT to be generic and capture things into very large buckets, not be an excuse to dive into a lecture in gender studies) but I'm willing to just shut up and humor it, and long term it isn't really going to reflect much on my judgment of you, so functionally doesn't matter.

Also just for the record if someone identifies as a Fae/Faer and doesn't insist on using a specialized pronoun and is cool with they he or she, I have no issue with them whatsoever. It's no different than my mom who thought she was a dragon <_<

masterplum posted...

improper food handling at restaurants

Also speaking as someone who experiences this regularly this is very real

You have to be really careful to say you're celiac or have an allergy, usually multiple times. Otherwise people just think it's a preference to be gluten free (and many times they treat it that way anyway)

StealThisSheen posted...

why he feels the need to automatically assume the worst of those people and treat them differently

I think you're not getting it

Has nothing to do with their gender identity per se and everything to do with imposing a bit of your backstory upon everyone you meet. Because gender identity stops becoming useful when you add more and more of them and it becomes "hey let me tell you this thing about me you didn't need to know" when "they" really should cover it if you don't identify as he or she.

So it's not a "those people" thing it's a "people" thing

I don't hate anyone

I think people who use neopronouns are likely doing it for attention than because they need to

I'm not going to hate on them for it. If they end up being cool people then that's fine.

There's a huge difference between hatred and not taking someone completely seriously to start.

Also have no issue whatsoever with standard trans people that go by he/she/them.

But yeah keep calling me a bigot if it makes you feel better about yourself

StealThisSheen posted...

But if Group A is saying it's not damaging to them

Their opinion is no better than mine in determining damage. In fact it's probably worse because they're less able to be objective about it.

Hbthebattle posted...

yeah but the problem is that you're assuming its always attention whoring

I'm assuming it probably is yes.

I will respect their wishes and not make a thing about it, but it's just a bad look to start, straight up. If they're cool they're cool but you're playing from behind out of the gate as far as me thinking you're being real with me.

I'm not looking down on behalf of Group A for the record. Never meant to imply that.

I look down upon it because it comes off as attention whoring more than something someone could possibly care about. It damaging group A is just a side effect. I'm just a person I don't identify as part of a movement or whatever

StealThisSheen posted...

Ulti insisted actual Native Americans were not upset over the Cleveland Indians name/Chief Wahoo imagery/etc., and that it was only "woke white leftists" getting upset over it, and that they were actually just hurting things in general for actual Native Americans. Meanwhile, the entire time, actual Native American groups have been protesting over the Cleveland Indians name/Chief Wahoo imagery/etc., literally for decades.

I mean Ulti wasn't wrong, he was just overly generalizing. Plenty of Native Americans prefer to be called Indians and don't really have a problem with it. A bunch having a problem with it doesn't change the fact that not all did.

If you want to split hairs it's a band of Mormons telling me that Scientology is good and that I need to become a Mormon or Scientologist to be able to tell them why Scientology comes off as ridiculous to the lay person

I agree these bigoted strawmen should be ridiculed! Fie upon their cursed cornfields!

If you listen only to Scientologists about what society as a whole thinks of Scientology you're not going to understand why everyone thinks it's a joke either.

Listen I mean if the goal is to live in an isolated bubble and pretend everyone accepts what you are and claim some false moral highground over people who don't then yes what cis people think doesn't matter.

If the goal is to actually have acceptance from society as a whole, to be able to freely be a he she they or fey or whatever with no judgment, then yes what cis people think matters, and the goal should be to help people understand why non-binary identity matters in a sense beyond "I wish to be called that and you should respect my wishes" and why it's important and not merely to vilify those who don't get it and think it comes off as attention whoring-- you can lord over them all you want but it's not helping your case one bit.

And to be frank based on responses in the topic I'm not actually sure what the goal is. Maybe the goal actually is to just live in an echo chamber and be happy and pretend the world at large doesn't exist. I mean I can actually respect that-- the world sucks.

MrGreenonion posted...

Respectability politics will never lead to liberation. And unless you're trans or non-binary, what you think helps "the cause" is irrelevant.

Lol.

So the whale analogy is stupid but thinking I can only care if I'm trans or whatever is super dumb. Like I can't have very good friends, family, or lovers that are and want them to be accepted

Also thinking whether cis people think gender identity is being made a joke isn't relevant is a really shortsighted way of thinking. Unless the goal is for everyone on earth to become non-binary, acceptance of ideas by binary people actually does in fact matter if you want acceptance to actually occur in society as a whole. Even if they "can't relate" making them able to understand is important-- something that looks thoroughly like a joke or a cry for attention on its face is not helping. One step at a time.