Board 8 > Would you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?

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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 10:11:03 AM
#51:


Also, by my count, 3 spots left.
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WickIebee
11/12/19 1:58:56 PM
#52:


With a day passed, I'll put my hat into the ring. Even though my X-Men knowledge mostly rotates around that Facebook game I played while it existed.
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 2:01:50 PM
#53:


Cool, hopefully we can get two more and have a full draft!
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 3:03:00 PM
#54:


As an aside, would be be interested in starting the drafting process on Thursday?
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MartinFF7
11/12/19 3:33:48 PM
#55:


Would a list of draftable characters be provided beforehand or is it on each participant to research who were the team members and draft accordingly?

Also based on post #5 I guess there's no villains, it's really just the heroes that were on those teams? Though when I last read X comics (the Onslaught arc which was... 96, 97?) Mystique and Sabretooth were technically part of X-Factor...
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Lopen
11/12/19 3:37:43 PM
#56:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Okay, so this is the potential pool as of now:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oMXJ7yV_srLGwN7WBO1YgGAIzobC2ZgHohGI5jz5y-E/edit?usp=sharing

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MartinFF7
11/12/19 3:42:40 PM
#57:


Ah! Thanks, I saw that post but didn't click the link because I thought it was the "potential pool" of people who signed up, lol...

Damn I really don't recognize almost anybody there.

Alright scarlet, sign me up
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 4:05:28 PM
#58:


Great, that leaves one more spot left.
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IhatethisCPU
11/12/19 4:50:25 PM
#59:


I'd be good for a Thursday draft start ^_^'
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banananor
11/12/19 6:38:42 PM
#60:


I can't guarantee I'll be available until 8pm eastern unfortunately

Unless we're doing a super slow draft in which case I could check in throughout the day

Also ban Franklin Richards imho
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 6:55:46 PM
#61:


I'm open for bans. Franklin is a confirmed ban, and if anyone has other suggestions, let me know.

Super-slow is my plan. Everyone will have an hour from the previous pick to make their own, and I was thinking that rounds would only take place between 10 and 10 eastern or something similar. Also, if you want, I would be willing to take PMs with shortlists of picks in case people can't be around.

I'm open to whatever, really.
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banananor
11/12/19 7:10:40 PM
#62:


That draft style sounds good to me

We probably don't need any more bans, but I'm not creative enough to think of how to defeat some of the omegas/ mind controllers without some of the villains that are specifically immune to mind control

Maybe by having a mind controller of your own to battle them
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MegamanX
11/12/19 7:22:40 PM
#63:


How do people feel about X-Man?
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banananor
11/12/19 7:24:37 PM
#64:


Oh jeez, I forgot about that one
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IhatethisCPU
11/12/19 7:25:35 PM
#65:


sent a shortlist just to be safe
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banananor
11/12/19 7:29:44 PM
#66:


There are actually so many ridiculous xmen that it's hard to draw a banline beyond franklin.

X-man is similar to cable, and hope summers is pretty ridiculous as well, and we're not even getting into magneto/iceman/Jean grey
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Maniac64
11/12/19 7:33:25 PM
#67:


X-man has telekinetic powers on the level of Dark Phoenix along with basically every psychic power ever at the highest level, including the ability to turn into energy.

There is a reason I included him in my original post.

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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 7:38:32 PM
#68:


The problem with banning some of these people is that they only operate at the speed of thought, and they aren't technically omnipotent. I would be on board with banning Hope and X-Man if there was a significant amount of pushback against them, but I don't necessarily think they need to be banned. You can work around them.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/12/19 8:23:38 PM
#69:


Just wondering but what's wrong with Franklin Richards? I'm not familiar with the character.
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 8:29:43 PM
#70:


Franklin Richards is the classic reality manipulator.
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 8:30:12 PM
#71:


Also, there's still one spot open!
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Johnbobb
11/12/19 8:30:21 PM
#72:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Just wondering but what's wrong with Franklin Richards? I'm not familiar with the character.

Franklin is a mutant who possesses the power to warp reality, i.e., to make any thought or desire come to fruition, even up to a cosmic scale. He is able to rearrange the molecular structure of matter and energy at will. Franklin once subconsciously created his own pocket universe, encompassing a virtual replica of Earth-616. As a result, several cosmic entities, including Galactus, Eternity, and Infinity, as well as Omniversal Guardian Roma and Omniversal Majestrix Opal Luna Saturnyne, began to take notice of Franklin's tremendous gifts,[40] going so far to describe him as a "being whom the Celestials felt was on par with themselves"
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Team Rocket Elite
11/12/19 9:36:14 PM
#73:


Oh, I guess it's pretty clear why he's banned. Thanks.
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Eddv
11/12/19 9:40:27 PM
#74:


I am down for Thursday when would we start?

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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 9:43:33 PM
#75:


I was thinking starting at 10 central and running until 9 central, then picking up the next day at the same time.
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Shaduln
11/12/19 10:23:32 PM
#76:


If you still need that one spot filled, I could join!
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 10:32:27 PM
#77:


Sounds good to me!

Final Roster:
Scare
Snake
Johnbobb
Lopen
IhatethisCPU
MegamanX
Eddv
DeathChicken
NBIceman
banananor
Mega Mana
redrocket
ChichiriMuyo
MartinFF7
Wicklebee
Shaduln
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 10:35:04 PM
#78:


This is the draft order, as determined by Random.org:

1. Eddv
2. IhatethisCPU
3. Scare
4. MartinFF7
5. NBIceman
6. banananor
7. Snake
8. DeathChicken
9. Shaduln
10. redrocket
11. MegamanX
12. ChichiriMuyo
13. Lopen
14. Wicklebee
15. Mega Mana
16. Johnbobb

And how we'll split the divisions:

Blue Division
Eddv
Scare
NBIceman
Snake
Shaduln
MegamanX
Lopen
Mega Mana

Gold Division
IhatethisCPU
MartinFF7
banananor
DeathChicken
redrocket
ChichiriMuyo
Wicklebee
Johnbobb
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Johnbobb
11/12/19 10:48:18 PM
#79:


oof
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 10:48:45 PM
#80:


From my point of view, it's better to have 16 and 17 than 1 and 32.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/12/19 10:52:32 PM
#81:


From my point of view, the X-Men are evil
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MartinFF7
11/12/19 11:01:42 PM
#82:


Oh I was going to ask if it was a snake style draft or not.

I feel like I could assemble a convincing-enough team but the "readable as the focus of a comic series", that's the trickier part..
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scarletspeed7
11/12/19 11:07:28 PM
#83:


There are a lot of pros and cons to every character when it comes to the Readability category. Some popular characters are completely spent in terms of being interesting characters and lots of minor characters have tons of potential as stars.
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ChichiriMuyo
11/12/19 11:22:20 PM
#84:


banananor posted...
That draft style sounds good to me

We probably don't need any more bans, but I'm not creative enough to think of how to defeat some of the omegas/ mind controllers without some of the villains that are specifically immune to mind control

Maybe by having a mind controller of your own to battle them

Phoenix force will be banned I hope. Also I can think of two characters that can't be mind controlled off the top of my head.
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Lopen
11/12/19 11:59:46 PM
#85:


13 is a cool number. Feel like all my high priority gets will be off the table by then but I can get two medium priority gets at least.
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MegamanX
11/13/19 12:01:44 AM
#86:


Will characters not drafted or external from this draft be able to use from a plot device or mentioned
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scarletspeed7
11/13/19 12:02:34 AM
#87:


If it goes undrafted, it's off the table.
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ChichiriMuyo
11/13/19 12:18:55 AM
#88:


I just noticed Legion is on the list and I think he needs to be kicked for the same reason as Franklin Richards - reality manipulation. Due to his psychological conditions he doesn't have full control of that, but I can think of some team compositions to skirt around that limitation.
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MartinFF7
11/13/19 12:20:39 AM
#89:


Damn wish you hadn't called that out, I was gonna try to sneak him through as a pick!! But you're probably right...
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ChichiriMuyo
11/13/19 12:26:20 AM
#90:


Sorry, but for some reason I'm taking this thing way more serious than I should and I want as many characters as possible to be in this but reality manipulation is where I think the line has to be drawn. Once you can make the argument that you can just blink the opposing team out of existence there is no chance for any balance.

Edit: I also think due to their hive-mind nature the Cuckoos should be dropped. They may be separate bodies but they are a singular mind.
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ScareChan
11/13/19 12:29:21 AM
#91:


3rd pick, sick
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ScareChan
11/13/19 12:29:50 AM
#92:


But it is a small shame DeathChicken isnt in my division for us to continue our forever feud
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scarletspeed7
11/13/19 12:29:52 AM
#93:


Omega-Level Mutants:

Iceman - Guy may have the abilities as demonstrated by Emma Frost, but he's never really reached full potential on his own. Keep that in mind in a fight. In.

Elixir - Has enough limitations that I don't think he needs to be cut. In.

Jean Grey - She's Marvel Girl here, not Phoenix. In.

Legion - There are a lot of mitigating factors to why Legion isn't a reliable entry, but that assumes a lot. Out.

Magneto - Easy to beat. In.

Storm - Again, easy to beat. In.

Quentin Quire - Would be the subject of a lot of irritating discussions that ultimately would have to give him unfair wins. Out.

Franklin Richards - Lol. Out.

Vulcan - Tough as hell, but not unstoppable by any means. In.

Hope Summers - On the fence, but out.
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scarletspeed7
11/13/19 12:32:03 AM
#94:


I'm not dropping the Cuckoos. It's your own damn fault if you draft one because everyone else will scoop them after that.
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ChichiriMuyo
11/13/19 12:34:05 AM
#95:


The list looks good, but there are two names I wish you wouldn't have named.
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ChichiriMuyo
11/13/19 12:35:01 AM
#96:


scarletspeed7 posted...
I'm not dropping the Cuckoos. It's your own damn fault if you draft one because everyone else will scoop them after that.

Fair. Thankfully only 3 of 5 make the list.
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MegamanX
11/13/19 12:35:46 AM
#97:


I really wanted kid omega as a plot device bah
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scarletspeed7
11/13/19 12:36:23 AM
#98:


Frankly, the half of this I'll pay most attention to is the readability half, and Omega-Level mutants are the least interesting characters to read (aside from Legion). So drafting them is a strike against in that category!
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scarletspeed7
11/13/19 12:37:23 AM
#99:


ChichiriMuyo posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
I'm not dropping the Cuckoos. It's your own damn fault if you draft one because everyone else will scoop them after that.

Fair. Thankfully only 3 of 5 make the list.

Yeah there's no over-powered nature there, and the rules (which I'll present tomorrow; I wasn't going to do cuts tonight but people were already discussing it) will preclude gaming the system with them anyways.
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MegamanX
11/13/19 12:37:39 AM
#100:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Frankly, the half of this I'll pay most attention to is the readability half, and Omega-Level mutants are the least interesting characters to read (aside from Legion). So drafting them is a strike against in that category!


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