Lurker > FortuneCookie

I've been meaning to close my account before the inevitable happens. This topic has delayed me slightly. I just want to say that, if the GOP has gone full fascist, out-voting them won't stop them. A vote is basically announcing support for or against. And I'm not announcing support for Biden unless he changes his stance.

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Yazarogi posted...

Except your moral obligations are actually worse than those of us that will vote Biden because you stand by and do nothing while someone worse will be voted in, and then use that power to do even more evil things. Even for the people you're holding your moral obligations for.

I'm not parading around on a white horse telling others what they should do. My conscience won't let me vote for someone who stands in support of genocide. Everyone has to act according to their own convictions.

legendary_zell posted...

One such method is threatening not to vote for him unless he changes his stance, seems to me that's one of the few things that could change his mind, one of our most powerful tools as individuals and as a collective. As long as you don't actually vote for Trump or sit out, it seems like that's the moral thing to do.

I would absolutely vote for Biden again if he changed his stance. I'm not anti-Israel or anti-Palestine. I'm anti-Netanyahu and anti-genocide.

Yazarogi posted...

that is a hot take, this whole thing with these people would be alleviated with ranked choice voting. But that makes to much sense.

Ranked voting would be nice.

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It reminds me of something a pro wrestler by the name of Ole Anderson once said:

"I used to figure you for a dumb fuck. But so many dumb fucks have come along that you've moved up the ladder without even doing anything."

It's good that transphobia is no longer allowed.

But no hornyposting?

For the record, this poll was inspired by a comment made during a political debate, but is not meant to be taken metaphorically. This is just a What If? for if such a thing actually existed.

And, since I didn't specify the planet, let's say it's not yours.

Umbreon posted...

Chainsaw man kills the babies. Fortune's loved ones, and then Fortune. I choose not to shoot the Chainsaw man because my morals dictate "Thou shall not kill".

I'm a good person because I'm a pacifist.

I am not a pacifist.

It's just that, whatever the consequences, I don't believe in strategies that result in the loss of innocent life. If talking about or confronting genocide strengthens the GOP, then it's the Democrats' responsibility to do something about it. I don't have a moral obligation to side with the lesser of two evils.

If you feel that's your responsibility, stick with your conviction. This is mine.

DrizztLink posted...

The fuck do you want us to do about that here?

Basically, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGEiK9StSfQ

I kinda don't give a fuck what I say right now. If I get banned, it's like, "Oh? My account died six weeks before they officially closed the boards?"

Or maybe it's six months. Either way, I feel like I could wake up any day and these boards would all be gone.

Yazarogi posted...

Thats the one thing I hate about being a liberal.

Our party is just a snake eating its own tail.

Meanwhile republicans are operating off a playbook, project 2025

Don't worry, they're eating their own tail too.

The local news can have as many as six political ads within a five minute stretch. All of them conservative ads. One individual says that he's an "Americans first" (i.e. "whites only") politician. The next ad is another Republican attacking the first one for being woke and supporting companies that approve of diversity. And they all flash pictures of themselves standing next to Trump like a bunch of kids having their picture taken with Santa Claus.

This election is a race to the bottom.

It really only benefits Trump and other wealthy elite. Bigots vote at a detriment to themselves because fucking over other people means more than their own wellbeing.

hockeybabe89 posted...

"I care about Gaza, so I'm gonna let Trump win and fuck them over harder. Also, fuck America and everyone in it. PS I care about everyone and want no one hurt."

"It's too late to save Gaza, but you can still vote to save me."

EPR-radar posted...

You left off the best part -- "I will broadcast my wonderful attitude online, and get all pissy when called out on it."

Defending my stance is getting pissy about it?

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Once, but I was aiming for the urinal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6midYJtGtE

Dude has a ton of TMNT toys. I had a lot of them as a kid, but nowhere near as many as he seems to have. No, I don't expect you to watch a 13-minute video. But if you click anywhere on the runtime at all, you'll get the gist of just how many he has.

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I think Sgt. Bananas was one of the moments where TMNT started to lose a bit of its cool factor for me as a kid. I don't know if he was ever in the cartoon show, but I remember seeing him on the shelf and thinking that he was a really lame character.

Anyway, when they tried to get the talking Turtle to work, it made me kinda sad. Like, that toy is dead. In the early 90s, you could have pulled that strip of read tape and it would have made Raphael say Turtle Power. Today, it doesn't function like it should. And the toys that utilized ooze? There should be a uniform generic "goop" that you can purchase for any and all toys that use goo. That was like the 90s equivalent of an online game no longer being available to play. The store doesn't sell ooze anymore. You're toy is functionless now.

Cemith posted...

Making decent decisions 4 and 8 years ago do not absolve you of not doing the same thing this year. I held the door open for someone this morning, doesn't mean I get to punch someone in the face tonight.

You are either against the rise in fascism, or you are complacent and culpable.

I'm complacent and culpable in the reelection of Joe Biden then because that's what's going to happen.

Anteaterking posted...

Personally I see my vote as being for harm minimization and not my enthusiastic support for a candidate, but not everyone does and a lot of people itt seem to be thinking that the trolley problem has been "morally decided".

I imagine most people see it that way. I'm not looking at everyone like, "You fucking murderer."

EPR-radar posted...

I don't want your goddamn vote. I want you to shut up about not voting to reduce the amount of defeatist GOP-serving drivel out there.

Has there been a single post in which I've told others that they shouldn't vote? If they want to engage me in conversation, I'm going to converse with them.

Not much longer. I'm pretty much over this conversation and I think I've said all that there is to say.

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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

FortuneCookie, I just want to say that I, as a brown/Muslim person, absolutely do not believe you care a single iota about Gaza. So please, shut the fuck up.

Yes, yes, yes.
Nobody actually cares about what's going on. They just want an excuse to not vote for Biden.

But why did I vote for Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2020 if I'm a conservative? Why did I spend so much time of my Friday off in online discussion if I'm too lazy to wait in line for half an hour to vote?

I'm sorry. It doesn't really add up. Either I'm a colossal troll who will spend all day in needless debate or I genuinely do not wish to vote for a man who supports genocide.

I live alone. For now, I prefer the flexibility of staying up late, walking around naked, and not having to wait on someone else to get out of the bathroom.

AEW is Pepsi.
WWE is Harvey Weinstein.

What the fuck is he trying to say?

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Drink Pepsi. It's not as tasty as Coke, but it's a lot better than rape.

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Deej posted...

"I don't care enough to vote, but you can be sure I care enough to explain at length why I don't care enough to vote."
- An intelligent person (?)

I cared enough to vote against Trump in 2016 and 2020. If Biden were to tell Netanyahu to fuck off, I would gladly vote against Trump in 2024 as well.

But, no. I'm not going to vote for anyone who is pro-genocide. It doesn't matter that the other side wants to kill more people.

Umbreon posted...

No baby. It's just you.

But I'm a pacifist. So I'll let the Chainsaw man kill you. Is that okay?

It would be of cold comfort to me if you refused to save my life because your moral compass wouldn't allow you to shoot the man who intended to murder me. But I do baseline respect that kind of conviction.

Somehow, I don't see the people of Palestine as collectively being compared to a man with a chainsaw and murderous intent.

Umbreon posted...

You're willing to let the world die in order to maintain your moral code.

That isn't a virtue. Quite the opposite in fact.

Say you're tied up in a chair. Someone is slowly approaching you with a Chainsaw with the intention of brutally murdering you.

I'm also in the room. I have a gun and can shoot the man with the Chainsaw dead no problem.

Should I save you? Yes or no?

If it's just him, I would appreciate if you shot the chainsaw maniac to save me

But if that man is holding an infant, and you can't shoot him without killing the baby, you should absolutely let him kill me rather than cause the death of the child.

But here's a thought:

If the vote is this important, and it's all about the numbers, stop wasting your time trying to get me to vote. You could convince a dozen non-voters before you could convince me. That's 11 more votes for the greater good.

I don't believe in collective consciousness. I don't think my vote would have a butterfly effect and subconsciously lead others to get up and vote. My vote is one blue vote in a red state. It's like pissing into the ocean and expecting it to turn the sea yellow.

Cemith posted...

Let's do some math here, shall we?

I don't weigh lives in terms of mathematics. If I push one button and it kills one innocent person or I push the other button and it ends all life on Earth, it's the same to me.

I don't want any innocent blood on my hands. If I have to align myself with genocide to prevent greater genocide, I'll sit back and let what happen will.

Fuck the Greater Good.
I can't make that any plainer. I will die and let the whole fucking world die before I agree to human sacrifice in the name of numbers or consequences.

I could not have made the shot that blew up the Death Star because I would know in my heart that there would have been prisoners or personnel aboard that ship that had nothing to do with any of the evils that were going on. I couldn't sink a naval ship in a time of war because, to me, the cook has nothing to do with the fighting that's going on.

If you think that refusing to commit murder makes me a murderer because it leads to a greater number of deaths, go on and think that way. You can't and won't change how I feel.

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I don't know the extent of your fight so far. Perhaps you have.

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Had I known about Undercover Cops, I would have posted this pic in the first post.

Cemith posted...

But you'll also do literally nothing to prevent it so the result is the same either way.

I'm not doing anything to prevent Biden's win.

I'm pretty sure that, if a championship match ends in a draw, the champion retains the belt. If a non-vote is a vote-by-default, wouldn't it be a vote for the sitting president because I'm not voting for change?

Cemith posted...

But you'll let it outrank LGBT humans?

Help me out of here brother. Also, safe to say that's a "no" then? Killing of puppies isn't a place where you can draw a line?

Cool.

I don't know what to say to this post. I think you misread me.

I'm not letting the puppy appeal sway my decision one way or another. If you're pitting quality of human life against quality of human life, I'm sorry, but I can't treat the children of Palestine as sacrificial lambs to protect people in America.

Whatever is going to happen is going to happen and my vote isn't going to change that. If we're facing fascism, they're not going to walk away because they lose a vote anyway. They've tried to overturn democracy once already and, as a party, they've grown bolder in the years since.

Let me make it clear I don't *want* the GOP to win.

Among the US government's actions of the 20th century, I think the single-biggest disgrace is the Japanese interment during World War II. That does not mean that I want to rewrite the history books and give the victory to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

Cemith posted...

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@FortuneCookie

How's that for motivation? Conservative VP hopeful shot and killed a puppy because she didn't think she could re-home it. Or is literal puppy slaughter not enough motivation?

Help me out here because if voting against fascism isn't enough maybe we can play to your empathy with pets

I'm not going to let a dog outrank a Palestinian human being.

If Biden wants my vote, he can publicly announce that we will not be sending funds or troops to help Israel's government in their ethnic cleansing.

I knew someone who shot a dog because the dog had been run over by a car and had their back broken. That was a mercy killing.

This is like when the villain of the story shoots one of their henchmen for being "weak."

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LeCh0nk posted...

Already am.

Not sure how you define borrow/stealing, but my work is influenced by Wheel of Time, LotR, and Avatar tla.

I guess I mean things like Superman wearing a cape because Zorro did or Rocky being a prizefighting bum because Marlon Brando could've been a contended, but instead was a bum in On the Waterfront. It doesn't have to be direct plagiarism.

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Homeless_Waifu posted...

Miguel Cervantes
Stuff is so old maybe i would be lucky that no one would recognize if I changed a many things about his works, making them what ifs and stuff like that

Also because Don Quixote is one of my favorite pieces of literature

If you did Don Quixote in... New York, outer space, the marines, etc., you'd have something to work with. And you'd give high school teachers an opportunity to highlight the influence of classical literature on modern storytelling.

DementedDurian posted...

I am making a satirical novel of a notorious property known for its cruelty and all I say is I got the idea to turn that hellish experience into a heavenly one and ran with it.

Oooh, sounds intriguing.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

You need to learn what words mean. And setting cities on fire could easily result in loss of life.
I don't disagree that cops suck, but your morality seems fairly situational.

I don't mean setting an arson fire and letting it spread where it may. Not that I can blame you, given how it was worded, and the fact that text doesn't convey tone, but I think you're taking that statement a bit too literal.

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Umbreon posted...

Probably.

They didn't even strictly want us, we were a package deal with a larger company that they also absorbed and probably wrung dry.

It's a pity that they can't just sell it to a potential buyer.

If I owned GameFAQs, all moderators would be required to wear TINY MINISKIRTS!

coyot posted...

Ancient heritage. Because you cant steal your own culture.

I mean, you technically could. Like, you could steal your Native American great-grandfather's blanket and sell it to a museum without compensating him.

Antifar posted...

I would simply invent my own work without lifting from any of the media I've encountered and consumed over the course of my life.

lol.

Umbreon posted...

Oh, but unfortunately by not voting you're absolutely doing nothing to prevent the genocides to come.

Nothing was stopped by a fence sitter.

Not to change the subject, but do you honestly believe a vote will stop fascism?

We have individuals who want to see all Asian people, Black people, gay people, Hispanic people, Jewish people, and trans people wiped out or relegated to indentured servitude. But they'll walk away if they lose the vote.

It seems a bit like saying that Hitler would have stuck to painting if he'd lost a coin toss.

Umbreon posted...

You have a citizen's responsibility, and one of those responsibilities is making sure the leader you have a decision over isn't the worst.

If I have a responsibility to my nation to vote, then my nation has a responsibility to provide me with a candidate worth voting for.

I'm using writer loosely here. It could be for video games, comics, or any other kind of creative media that tells a story.

It's an interesting scenario because, on one hand, it has to be something that speaks to you enough that you want to lift content from it. While, on the other hand, it has to be something you've given up any chance of ever directly adapting. You can't create Rebel Moon and do a Star Wars movie later on. And on that note, you can't create Star Wars and do a Flash Gordon movie later on.

I think I would borrow from anime. It's unlikely that I would ever do adaptations of Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, or Yu Yu Hakusho. I figure that I appropriate character designs, story scenarios, etc. without worrying. "Oops, I wrote a story where a supernatural supporting character has white wolf ears, but now they want me to do a live action InuYasha. I guess I've been caught at it."

There are also certain franchises that have really left me in the dust. I don't think I could hop back on the Mortal Kombat train or the TMNT train if I wanted to. And I'd have less than zero interest in doing an MCU movie unless they hit the reset button. I'm going to waltz in and write a movie that'll make a splash in a franchise that has been going on for two decades? Yeah, good luck with that.

Fandom wants GameFAQs for a tax write-off, don't they?

Umbreon posted...

FortuneCookie is the raindrop who insists holds no responsibility for the flood.

What agency does a raindrop have? It's blown by the wind.

I can't accept a president's responsibility if I have none of their power.

DrizztLink posted...

I can't tell you anything at all.

You've already decided to use your martyr complex to make millions of actual martyrs.

I'm no martyr. I just won't be an ally to genocide.

Evening_Dragon posted...

That's just being bad at math.

It never was my best subject.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Strange response considering you just mentioned rioting and burning down cities in another topic, which would most likely lead to death(s).

Rioting is a non-violent response. It's the destruction of property. It's financial destruction, not the destruction of human lives. It needn't result in even a single death.

If you cost the system millions of dollars every time a cop commits a racially motivated murder, they'll start locking up cops because it won't be financially feasible to allow them to continue.

I'm sorry. I couldn't pull that switch. Either way, I kill somebody.

The focus on protesting is a media distraction from the genocide being protested.

In response to DrizztLink,

Yes, he's the one who ran for president. He accepted that responsibility. He chose to run for office.

He ran for office. I did not.
He has power and authority. I do not.

You cannot tell me that I have a president's responsibility when it is not within my power to withhold funding from Israel.

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If your life is imperiled by the outcome of the election, blame Biden. Not me. All he had to do to guarantee reelection was to stop funding genocide and he refused.

specialkid8 posted...

Why do people keep saying this? Kong literally turned Godzilla into a side character of his own universe. And the fights they had with each other were very careful to make sure neither one of them came out as clearly superior. They powered Kong way up to even be anywhere close to Godzilla who should have been able to blast his ass six ways to sundown.

Because Kong lacks his aggression, agility, and fighting ability that he has in other films. And because they changed Godzilla's origin without changing Kong's to match.

Godzilla is a mutated dinosaur. Without the atomic bomb, he's the kind of carnivorous beast that would get its jaw and neck broken by Kong. They should drop a bomb on Kong and give him super powers to level the playing field.

Oh, but wait! The Monsterverse changed Godzilla's origin. He's millions of years old and he's always been a radioactive giant. Cool. Then they can change Kong's origin and powers too. He doesn't need to be "just an ape" matched against an enhanced radioactive lizard.

Keep in mind, I'm more a fan of Godzilla than of Kong. But I still believe in a power balance when it fits the characters. If you're going to have Batman vs Spider-Man, have Batman get bitten by a radioactive bat and make the fight fair.

Also, Godzilla being demoted is a point of contention. Why are we following the lesser monster around when there's a stronger monster we should be following? Why is it the Adventure of Robin with special guest star Batman?

DrizztLink posted...

No, you're exactly the same as the guy in this topic proudly doing it because he'll be safe, you've just found a way to be self-righteous about it.

I've spoken against Trump. If he's Hitler, death awaits me too.

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No, I'm not. You can't make me guilty for something I haven't done. You can't say that, just for existing, I'm a murderer. If I vote, I murder the people of Gaza. If I don't vote, I murder everyone else who dies. No. It doesn't work that way. I'm only guilty if I'm an active participant.

Like I said, the responsibility is Biden's. He could be the sole individual standing between democracy and fascism and he chooses genocide. If genocide is the lesser of two evils, I'm staying out of the contest. I won't vote for either.

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