Board 8 > Has Goldeneye 64 aged well?

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LinkMarioSamus 04/12/23 6:15:07 AM #1:	Can't vote, haven't played it Yes No Can't vote, haven't played it - Results (92 votes) Yes 10.87% (10 votes) 10 No 89.13% (82 votes) 82 Figured this might be an interesting question, given the recent re-release. I've only experienced the game through Let's Plays myself. I also remember The Completionist deciding that the game still works well as long as you don't play it like most modern FPSs. That makes sense in a way, given you're playing as a secret agent and not a soldier of some sort. Might still be one of the definitive Bond experiences in gaming too. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:972788783] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote> Can't vote, haven't played it Yes No Vote View Results Can't vote, haven't played it - Results (92 votes) Yes 10.87% (10 votes) 10 No 89.13% (82 votes) 82 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '8', topic: '80409840', message: '0', key: '93a97752' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } Figured this might be an interesting question, given the recent re-release. I've only experienced the game through Let's Plays myself. I also remember The Completionist deciding that the game still works well as long as you don't play it like most modern FPSs. That makes sense in a way, given you're playing as a secret agent and not a soldier of some sort. Might still be one of the definitive Bond experiences in gaming too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 04/12/23 7:36:55 AM #2:	unrelated, but do you have a job? and if so what do you do for a living --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:972789387] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>unrelated, but do you have a job? and if so what do you do for a living</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 04/12/23 8:36:50 AM #3:	The re4 topic had people saying the original didn't age well. So nothing really does --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:972789974] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>The re4 topic had people saying the original didn't age well. So nothing really does </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 04/12/23 10:09:39 AM #4:	It already hadn't aged well three years later when Perfect Dark came out --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 3; Most recent - Aura-Aura Climber <cite>Underleveled posted [p:972791187] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>It already hadn't aged well three years later when Perfect Dark came out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/12/23 10:44:54 AM #5:	Aecioo posted... unrelated, but do you have a job? and if so what do you do for a living Currently looking for one. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:972791830] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Aecioo posted... </cite><quote>unrelated, but do you have a job? and if so what do you do for a living</quote>Currently looking for one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 04/12/23 10:47:24 AM #6:	RE4 aged well Goldeneye is the poster child for not aging well. The big problem is the tech wasn't there for the ambition. It just feels slow and choppy. An FPS with no FPS. Compare it to say the original Doom which was another old FPS but realized its limitations and played around them and aged wonderfully. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:972791881] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>RE4 aged wellGoldeneye is the poster child for not aging well. The big problem is the tech wasn't there for the ambition. It just feels slow and choppy. An FPS with no FPS. Compare it to say the original Doom which was another old FPS but realized its limitations and played around them and aged wonderfully. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 04/12/23 10:54:43 AM #7:	RE4 arguably aged better than RE5. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:972791998] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>RE4 arguably aged better than RE5. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 04/12/23 10:59:34 AM #8:	One big thing it whiffed on and never improved AFAIK was sight lines. In the Caverns in particular you could kill mooks in a wide open catwalk because they couldn't see you through a glass railing. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:972792082] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>One big thing it whiffed on and never improved AFAIK was sight lines. In the Caverns in particular you could kill mooks in a wide open catwalk because they couldn't see you through a glass railing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FoolFantastic 04/12/23 11:05:32 AM #9:	Goldeneye was already outclassed by other FPS games when it released; I've always felt like it's less that it aged poorly and more that people were blinded by the novelty of a decent FPS on consoles. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ <cite>FoolFantastic posted [p:972792171] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Goldeneye was already outclassed by other FPS games when it released; I've always felt like it's less that it aged poorly and more that people were blinded by the novelty of a decent FPS on consoles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 04/12/23 11:07:47 AM #10:	Well, most early 3D games haven't aged too well because it's been improved upon so much. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972792203] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Well, most early 3D games haven't aged too well because it's been improved upon so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 04/12/23 11:22:10 AM #11:	It hasn't but people exaggerate how badly it's aged. Problems like the low FPS (especially when a lot is happening on screen) were obvious and annoying even when the game was new. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:972792474] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>It hasn't but people exaggerate how badly it's aged. Problems like the low FPS (especially when a lot is happening on screen) were obvious and annoying even when the game was new.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 04/12/23 11:38:28 AM #12:	Concur with Kenri here Goldeneye didn't age well but only because it was so natively obsolete compared to PC fpses circa its own release. It didn't get worse with time, people just played more tightly designed fpses. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:972792791] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Concur with Kenri hereGoldeneye didn't age well but only because it was so natively obsolete compared to PC fpses circa its own release. It didn't get worse with time, people just played more tightly designed fpses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 04/12/23 11:42:28 AM #13:	I played it for the first time a couple months ago after hearing about how poorly it had aged, and was surprised how fun it still is. It has obviously dated poorly in some respects and I played on Xbox with the new controls, it may be worse on Switch, but I had a good time. --- Very very slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. <cite>andylt posted [p:972792879] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I played it for the first time a couple months ago after hearing about how poorly it had aged, and was surprised how fun it still is. It has obviously dated poorly in some respects and I played on Xbox with the new controls, it may be worse on Switch, but I had a good time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 04/12/23 11:45:04 AM #14:	I mean it sounds smart to say these were always problems and it hasn't aged poorly but aging is pretty much "when the novelty wears off" Aging doesn't mean there weren't problems to begin with. It never means that. Games aren't people they don't develop problems as they become older. It means that they weren't as glaring at the time because people were excited about some other thing and aren't as much, or the things wrong with it become more obvious with an increasing amount of superior examples out there etc etc. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:972792924] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I mean it sounds smart to say these were always problems and it hasn't aged poorly but aging is pretty much "when the novelty wears off"Aging doesn't mean there weren't problems to begin with. It never means that. Games aren't people they don't develop problems as they become older. It means that they weren't as glaring at the time because people were excited about some other thing and aren't as much, or the things wrong with it become more obvious with an increasing amount of superior examples out there etc etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 04/12/23 12:39:08 PM #15:	It's been a good 20 years since I've played Goldeneye, and I just can't give it the benefit of the doubt when thinking about that control scheme (though at the time, console gamers widely preferred Goldeneye's control setup versus Turok's, which was practically its only relevant competitor). HOWEVER, seeing people levy similar criticisms against the original RE4 - which I just played recently and feel aged beautifully - makes me wonder if I just have more "tolerance" for older games and could still enjoy Goldeneye today. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:972794016] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>It's been a good 20 years since I've played Goldeneye, and I just can't give it the benefit of the doubt when thinking about that control scheme (though at the time, console gamers widely preferred Goldeneye's control setup versus Turok's, which was practically its only relevant competitor). HOWEVER, seeing people levy similar criticisms against the original RE4 - which I just played recently and feel aged beautifully - makes me wonder if I just have more "tolerance" for older games and could still enjoy Goldeneye today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haste_2 04/12/23 12:39:21 PM #16:	In terms of fun it has aged well. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "You drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." <cite>Haste_2 posted [p:972794022] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>In terms of fun it has aged well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 04/12/23 12:57:36 PM #17:	Lopen posted... I mean it sounds smart to say these were always problems and it hasn't aged poorly but aging is pretty much "when the novelty wears off" Aging doesn't mean there weren't problems to begin with. It never means that. Games aren't people they don't develop problems as they become older. It means that they weren't as glaring at the time because people were excited about some other thing and aren't as much, or the things wrong with it become more obvious with an increasing amount of superior examples out there etc etc. Sure but my argument here is explicitly "a lot of these problems were just as glaring at the time". --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:972794422] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>I mean it sounds smart to say these were always problems and it hasn't aged poorly but aging is pretty much "when the novelty wears off"Aging doesn't mean there weren't problems to begin with. It never means that. Games aren't people they don't develop problems as they become older. It means that they weren't as glaring at the time because people were excited about some other thing and aren't as much, or the things wrong with it become more obvious with an increasing amount of superior examples out there etc etc.</quote>Sure but my argument here is explicitly "a lot of these problems were just as glaring at the time".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FoolFantastic 04/12/23 1:18:15 PM #18:	I really don't feel like any major game from the late-PS2 era on has truly aged poorly. They may not match modern design trends but that comes down more to taste than being outright improved upon. The idea of the original RE4 having aged poorly is bizarre to me. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ <cite>FoolFantastic posted [p:972794829] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I really don't feel like any major game from the late-PS2 era on has truly aged poorly. They may not match modern design trends but that comes down more to taste than being outright improved upon. The idea of the original RE4 having aged poorly is bizarre to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 04/12/23 1:35:37 PM #19:	It really depends on who you are. The game aged fine if you played it back then and don't play many FPSes now. Younger players and those who play modern FPSes a lot typically can't get into it since there's no health regeneration and none of the QOL improvements that, say, the Duty Calls games have. It's still playable and still fun and that's what matters to me. Even though it's brutally hard by today's standards. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:972795174] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>It really depends on who you are. The game aged fine if you played it back then and don't play many FPSes now. Younger players and those who play modern FPSes a lot typically can't get into it since there's no health regeneration and none of the QOL improvements that, say, the Duty Calls games have.It's still playable and still fun and that's what matters to me. Even though it's brutally hard by today's standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jcgamer107 04/12/23 1:42:24 PM #20:	Clearly I'm in the minority but I think it still plays great, love the N64 FPS controls for GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and the low-polygon 3D look --- azuarc wasn't even home. he was playing Magic the Gathering at his buddy's store, which is extremely easy to verify <cite>jcgamer107 posted [p:972795310] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Clearly I'm in the minority but I think it still plays great, love the N64 FPS controls for GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and the low-polygon 3D look</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 04/12/23 2:58:23 PM #21:	jcgamer107 posted... Clearly I'm in the minority but I think it still plays great, love the N64 FPS controls for GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and the low-polygon 3D look --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:972796999] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>jcgamer107 posted...</cite><quote>Clearly I'm in the minority but I think it still plays great, love the N64 FPS controls for GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and the low-polygon 3D look</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste 04/12/23 3:03:25 PM #22:	jcgamer107 posted... Clearly I'm in the minority but I think it still plays great, love the N64 FPS controls for GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and the low-polygon 3D look with you, but i can't really play it (or any fast paced FPSes really) without getting motion-sick --- yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness <cite>SeabassDebeste posted [p:972797115] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>jcgamer107 posted...</cite><quote>Clearly I'm in the minority but I think it still plays great, love the N64 FPS controls for GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and the low-polygon 3D look</quote>with you, but i can't really play it (or any fast paced FPSes really) without getting motion-sick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 04/12/23 3:12:53 PM #23:	The controls are the single biggest issue. I mean good luck playing it on a non-N64 controller without some creative button assignment strategy. RE4 is absolutely fine. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:972797322] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>The controls are the single biggest issue. I mean good luck playing it on a non-N64 controller without some creative button assignment strategy.RE4 is absolutely fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 04/12/23 3:24:58 PM #24:	Games don't "age" but they can look really primitive when looking back on them with modern sensibilities, which Goldeneye definitely does at least when played on original hardware. Slap mouse controls and performance boosts on it and I think you still have a pretty good game - the layered approach to mission objectives based on difficulty is really cool even compared to more modern games, though Perfect Dark almost immediately blew it out of the water in that and all other respects. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:972797596] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Games don't "age" but they can look really primitive when looking back on them with modern sensibilities, which Goldeneye definitely does at least when played on original hardware. Slap mouse controls and performance boosts on it and I think you still have a pretty good game - the layered approach to mission objectives based on difficulty is really cool even compared to more modern games, though Perfect Dark almost immediately blew it out of the water in that and all other respects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ngamer 04/12/23 3:49:02 PM #25:	I'll admit it hasn't aged well... BUT the poor game has so much going against it. Such as the massive nostalgia of being 13 and staying up late with your 3 best friends and the original hardware not being able to handle their crazy ambitions (especially the 4 player split screen action). You know what has aged beautifully though? The 2010 Xbox revamp of Perfect Dark. Hooked it up to my massive new TV recently and it still looks amazing! --- Congrats to azuarc, Mario Kart 64 AND GameFAQs Contest Legend! board8.fandom.com/wiki/The_Show \| thengamer.com/xstats <cite>Ngamer posted [p:972798114] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I'll admit it hasn't aged well... BUT the poor game has so much going against it. Such as the massive nostalgia of being 13 and staying up late with your 3 best friends and the original hardware not being able to handle their crazy ambitions (especially the 4 player split screen action).You know what has aged beautifully though? The 2010 Xbox revamp of Perfect Dark. Hooked it up to my massive new TV recently and it still looks amazing!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 04/12/23 5:35:44 PM #26:	Kenri posted... Sure but my argument here is explicitly "a lot of these problems were just as glaring at the time". Yeah but you're just giving revisionist history there. It wasn't my cup of tea but it doesn't get the buzz it got if it was junk. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:972800390] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>Sure but my argument here is explicitly "a lot of these problems were just as glaring at the time".</quote>Yeah but you're just giving revisionist history there. It wasn't my cup of tea but it doesn't get the buzz it got if it was junk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 04/12/23 5:44:56 PM #27:	What? I never said or even implied that it's junk. I'd gladly play Goldeneye multiplayer today if my friends were down. I still think that game is fun as hell. But we'd probably complain about the insane slowdown whenever an explosion is on screen, just like my friends and I did back in the late 90s. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:972800587] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>What? I never said or even implied that it's junk. I'd gladly play Goldeneye multiplayer today if my friends were down. I still think that game is fun as hell. But we'd probably complain about the insane slowdown whenever an explosion is on screen, just like my friends and I did back in the late 90s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 04/12/23 6:17:03 PM #28:	Kenri posted... What? I never said or even implied that it's junk. I'd gladly play Goldeneye multiplayer today if my friends were down. I still think that game is fun as hell. But we'd probably complain about the insane slowdown whenever an explosion is on screen, just like my friends and I did back in the late 90s. Young me just thought it was a slow-mo for dramatic effect lol --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:972801272] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>What? I never said or even implied that it's junk. I'd gladly play Goldeneye multiplayer today if my friends were down. I still think that game is fun as hell. But we'd probably complain about the insane slowdown whenever an explosion is on screen, just like my friends and I did back in the late 90s.</quote>Young me just thought it was a slow-mo for dramatic effect lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 04/12/23 7:05:02 PM #29:	KamikazePotato posted... Young me just thought it was a slow-mo for dramatic effect lol as a kid I think I knew it wasnt on purpose, but I thought it was cool that I was breaking the game or whatever so I didnt mind --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:972802155] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Young me just thought it was a slow-mo for dramatic effect lol</quote>as a kid I think I knew it wasnt on purpose, but I thought it was cool that I was breaking the game or whatever so I didnt mind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 04/12/23 7:15:54 PM #30:	Didn't even age well back in 2004. I played Agent Under Fire first and found Goldeneye to be archaic. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:972802374] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Didn't even age well back in 2004. I played Agent Under Fire first and found Goldeneye to be archaic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/13/23 5:13:37 AM #31:	I remember watching The Completionist's review and he deduced that the game's age only really shows if you play it like most contemporary FPSs where you try to move fast and shoot everything in sight. In a way it kind of makes sense, seeing as you're playing as a secret agent and not a soldier of some kind. Like, if you gave me Goldeneye and Halo along with systems to play them on, I'd choose Goldeneye. I'll also admit to having seen LPs of both (plus Halo 2). --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:972810599] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I remember watching The Completionist's review and he deduced that the game's age only really shows if you play it like most contemporary FPSs where you try to move fast and shoot everything in sight. In a way it kind of makes sense, seeing as you're playing as a secret agent and not a soldier of some kind.Like, if you gave me Goldeneye and Halo along with systems to play them on, I'd choose Goldeneye. I'll also admit to having seen LPs of both (plus Halo 2).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 04/13/23 5:38:55 AM #32:	"Aged well" doesn't really have a clear cut definition. I agree with a lot of Lopen's points. People seem to get borderline offended when it's suggested that RE4 has not aged well and it's a matter of perspective maybe, but I think the best definition is if if you try to imagine the exact same game coming out today except for updated graphics, would people enjoy it to the same extend? I don't think RE4 would, for example, the gameplay works as well as it ever did, but it's not very modern and I think it'd throw a lot of people off if they played it for the first time today. I haven't played the remake yet, but I supported releasing it again to get newer audiences into it using more modern gameplay. Most early shooters or 3d games in general has by this definition aged pretty bad because it has evolved so much since then that it can be hard going back to. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972810771] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>"Aged well" doesn't really have a clear cut definition. I agree with a lot of Lopen's points.People seem to get borderline offended when it's suggested that RE4 has not aged well and it's a matter of perspective maybe, but I think the best definition is if if you try to imagine the exact same game coming out today except for updated graphics, would people enjoy it to the same extend? I don't think RE4 would, for example, the gameplay works as well as it ever did, but it's not very modern and I think it'd throw a lot of people off if they played it for the first time today. I haven't played the remake yet, but I supported releasing it again to get newer audiences into it using more modern gameplay.Most early shooters or 3d games in general has by this definition aged pretty bad because it has evolved so much since then that it can be hard going back to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 04/13/23 5:43:05 AM #33:	LinkMarioSamus posted... I remember watching The Completionist's review and he deduced that the game's age only really shows if you play it like most contemporary FPSs where you try to move fast and shoot everything in sight. In a way it kind of makes sense, seeing as you're playing as a secret agent and not a soldier of some kind. Like, if you gave me Goldeneye and Halo along with systems to play them on, I'd choose Goldeneye. I'll also admit to having seen LPs of both (plus Halo 2). why not just try playing it for yourself a bit its super easy to just get an emulator at this point and it would run on basically any computer --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:972810795] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite><quote>I remember watching The Completionist's review and he deduced that the game's age only really shows if you play it like most contemporary FPSs where you try to move fast and shoot everything in sight. In a way it kind of makes sense, seeing as you're playing as a secret agent and not a soldier of some kind.Like, if you gave me Goldeneye and Halo along with systems to play them on, I'd choose Goldeneye. I'll also admit to having seen LPs of both (plus Halo 2).</quote>why not just try playing it for yourself a bitits super easy to just get an emulator at this point and it would run on basically any computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 04/13/23 8:54:07 AM #34:	"Not aged well" to me means if I play it today, it's significantly held back by problems related to the era it's from. For some people, no NES games have aged well, but I don't find that to be the case. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:972812499] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>"Not aged well" to me means if I play it today, it's significantly held back by problems related to the era it's from. For some people, no NES games have aged well, but I don't find that to be the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FoolFantastic 04/13/23 9:43:50 AM #35:	I guess my question is, if RE4 hasn't aged well, what game of its era has? If "hasn't aged well" is simply synonymous with "older," then what is the point of the phrase? Looking back to the N64/PS1 era, I feel like it's clear games like FF7 and Ocarina of Time aged better than games like Tomb Raider and GoldenEye 007. As someone who didn't start until the PS2 era, a game like Tomb Raider feels like trying to learn an archaic language. Tank controls in a platformer? I honestly struggle to imagine people enjoying that, even though I know they must have. For RE4, even if future games copied a lot of its technical elements, the truly iconic bits have to do with level design and atmosphere. Few games that followed actually capture its moment-to-moment feel. RE4 is a high point of setpiece-based design, which is something that doesn't really age. Sure, there may be some bits and pieces that could be smoothed out, but I think that's true of every video game ever. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ <cite>FoolFantastic posted [p:972813181] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I guess my question is, if RE4 hasn't aged well, what game of its era has? If "hasn't aged well" is simply synonymous with "older," then what is the point of the phrase?Looking back to the N64/PS1 era, I feel like it's clear games like FF7 and Ocarina of Time aged better than games like Tomb Raider and GoldenEye 007. As someone who didn't start until the PS2 era, a game like Tomb Raider feels like trying to learn an archaic language. Tank controls in a platformer? I honestly struggle to imagine people enjoying that, even though I know they must have.For RE4, even if future games copied a lot of its technical elements, the truly iconic bits have to do with level design and atmosphere. Few games that followed actually capture its moment-to-moment feel. RE4 is a high point of setpiece-based design, which is something that doesn't really age. Sure, there may be some bits and pieces that could be smoothed out, but I think that's true of every video game ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoFInBadger 04/13/23 10:08:02 AM #36:	I still to this day have never played this game. --- WWE Divas Era > Superstar Era "GameFAQS users stopped playing video games after 2005." - Preston <cite>NoFInBadger posted [p:972813574] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>I still to this day have never played this game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 04/13/23 10:53:04 AM #37:	Kenri posted... It hasn't but people exaggerate how badly it's aged. Problems like the low FPS (especially when a lot is happening on screen) were obvious and annoying even when the game was new. I do remember it being ass as an 8 year old, never wanted to play it at my friend's house. But I think that was a few years after it came out already. And I normally played Dreamcast and PS1 so any N64 game felt like ass. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972814469] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>It hasn't but people exaggerate how badly it's aged. Problems like the low FPS (especially when a lot is happening on screen) were obvious and annoying even when the game was new.</quote>I do remember it being ass as an 8 year old, never wanted to play it at my friend's house. But I think that was a few years after it came out already. And I normally played Dreamcast and PS1 so any N64 game felt like ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 04/13/23 11:04:16 AM #38:	The only thing Goldeneye did especially well was leverage the N64's four-player potential, which isn't especially relevant or meaningful today. And some of the design choices are borderline perplexing, like the faces pasted on to the fronts of the heads, or the atrocious escort missions and esoteric objectives. It was, simply put, a product of its time. I can think of other things, like the graduated difficulty options for campaign, but let's be honest about Goldeneye's legacy and what we really remember it for. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:972814703] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>The only thing Goldeneye did especially well was leverage the N64's four-player potential, which isn't especially relevant or meaningful today. And some of the design choices are borderline perplexing, like the faces pasted on to the fronts of the heads, or the atrocious escort missions and esoteric objectives. It was, simply put, a product of its time. I can think of other things, like the graduated difficulty options for campaign, but let's be honest about Goldeneye's legacy and what we really remember it for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste 04/16/23 7:32:01 AM #39:	MoogleKupo141 posted... why not just try playing it for yourself a bit its super easy to just get an emulator at this point and it would run on basically any computer he will surely respond to this --- yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness <cite>SeabassDebeste posted [p:972875304] in Has Golden... [t:80409840]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted...</cite><quote>why not just try playing it for yourself a bitits super easy to just get an emulator at this point and it would run on basically any computer </quote>he will surely respond to this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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