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FoolFantastic 12/11/22 10:49:35 AM #1: |
What album should we cover for Raetsel_Lapin's week?
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Previous results can be seen here: https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_2 The rules: 1. Listen to the album in full 2. Rank every track on the album 3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points. For albums with greater than 15 tracks, everything ranked below #15 will be given 0 points and the scale for the top 15 will be the same as a 15-track album. For albums with more than 20 tracks, you only have to list your top 15 (with 16-20, I still like having the average rank listed) 4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results 5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic 6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, December 18 at 8:00 AM EST - though I have recently been leaving them up for longer, so just try to vote by that afternoon 7. You can sign up to be added to the user cycle (a new user will be added to the end of the current cycle as long as there are four weeks remaining) - the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic. 7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era. 7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide). 7c. I have added a tiered vote structure - the least popular album will be removed and its backup votes distributed to the other two entrants. 8. Starting with the next cycle, every four weeks will be a competitive week where those listed choose a single album to face off against others. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual track list: 1. Money Changes Everything 2. Girls Just Want to Have Fun 3. When You Were Mine 4. Time After Time 5. She Bop 6. All Through the Night 7. Witness 8. I'll Kiss You 9. He's So Unusual 10. Yeah Yeah Current Cycle: 12/18: BlueCrystalTear (Lindsey Stirling - Warmer in the Winter) Future cycle (dates subject to change if anyone new signs up before 11/27): n/a: MetalmindStats (skipping this cycle) 12/25: HBJDubs (Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica) 1/1: Raetsel_Lapin 1/8: BlueCrystalTear/darkx/neonreaper 1/15: Steiner 1/22: Snake5555555555 1/29: Jesse_Custer 2/5: RyoCaliente/VeryInsane/FoolFantastic 2/12: ZaziGuado 2/19: firefdr 2/26: Johnbobb 3/4: Steiner/ChichiriMuyo/Great_Paul 3/11: VeryInsane 3/18: FoolFantastic 3/25: Seanchan 4/1: Johnbobb/ZaziGuado/jcgamer107 4/8: Giggsalot 4/15: RyoCaliente 4/22: darkx 4/29: Snake5555555555/Raetsel_Lapin/Seanchan 5/6: neonreaper 5/13: Great_Paul 5/20: jcgamer107 5/27: Giggsalot/MetalmindStats/Jesse_Custer 6/3: ChichiriMuyo 6/10: BlueCrystalTear 6/17: HBJDubs/firefdr --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/11/22 10:50:39 AM #2: |
As usual, the previous topic will be open for another day or so in case anyone still wants to vote Here is Raetsel_Lapin on the picks this week: "Common sense has prevailed this time and I've refrained from picking anything that would be considered truly outlandish. We have: One of the more accessible albums by my current favorite band, which I know has fans on this board because I only learned about them from here. A sentimental favorite of mine that no one else would be interested in, -but- is relatively harmless. It's just some 80's pop music about love performed by a musical legend. I was going to nominate Barbra Streisand's soundtrack to Yentl in this place, but I backed down at the last minute & went with something that would at least be grudgingly tolerated if it somehow won. And the best selling album of all time which will assuredly win by default. BRING ME THE HORIZON - THAT'S THE SPIRIT Length: 11 songs, 45 minutes Genre: Nu Metal/Post Metal/Alternative Rock Year: 2015 The album where BMtH completely abandoned their metalcore roots in favor of a much more mainstream sound, actually transitioning away from metal entirely on some tracks. This resulted in their best-selling album & what is likely the best choice for this topic. While they maintain their anger & lyrics dealing with depression, it's all packaged in tracks that are fairly easy to listen to considering the subject matter. Favorite Song - Doomed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oc0ja19_GU While not my favorite version of the song (the "Live at the Royal Albert Hall" version is basically the best song ever), I listened to versions of this song over 80 times last year. ...Granted, 70+ of those were said live version, but this one also got a lot of play. A good version of my current favorite song & a perfect introduction to the album's themes and style. Least Favorite - Drown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEaaqnXqhYw The lyrics are fine, but I've just never really clicked with the song and find anything it does to be performed better elsewhere on the album. DOLLY PARTON - REAL LOVE Length: 10 songs, 35 minutes Genre: 80's Pop with some country flair Year: 1985 From that point in the 80's where Dolly was trying to become a pop star, this is easily her at her poppiest. And I know it is blasphemy to pick a non-country album for Dolly, -but- this is an album with personal significance to me. We didn't have many albums growing up and one of the few we did have was a compilation album featuring the best songs from this album. The songs are drilled into my heart & I love this. Objectively, I should nominate Jolene & maybe I will some other day. But I want to use one slot on an album that means a lot to me personally & this is the most tolerable selection from the personal favorite category. It's just 80's pop songs about love. That's it. Favorite Song - It's Such A Heartache: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6sRVxwh3E Pop break-up song. I love it. Least Favorite - I Can't Be True: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xjEhPng30 An overly happy ode to cheating that Dolly cannot pull off. She's so sweet that even trying to perform this song is farcical and it's not good enough that anyone could salvage it. It is the only song from the album that I'd call bad. MICHAEL JACKSON - THRILLER: Thriller, Beat It, Billie Jean, P.Y.T., The Girl Is Mine, Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'... it's a stacked album and you don't need me to hype it up. Consider this a freebie while I survey people's response to BMtH & Dolly. Favorite Song - Beat It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0 ...Oh come on, you already know this song. Least Favorite - The Lady in My Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJLH5yXoqi8 After a barrage of hit singles, we end with this song which isn't *bad* but is completely outclassed to a point that it feels like a very unsatisfying conclusion." --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/11/22 10:53:38 AM #3: |
I ran out of room in that PM, so for completion's sake: MICHAEL JACKSON - THRILLER Length: 9 songs, 42 minutes Genre: The most mainstream 80's pop imaginable Year: 1982 --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 12/11/22 1:35:17 PM #4: |
What a crazy mix of noms this week! Actually didnt vote for Thriller since I figure thatll be the overwhelming winner. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MetalmindStats 12/11/22 7:43:21 PM #5: |
Raetsel_Lapin posted... too 80's heavy, but I like what I like.Sounds right up my alley, at least! (see also: this week) She's So Unusual is absolutely among my all-time favorite albums, and I'm ecstatic someone else not only nominated it but got it selected to boot! I could reasonably rank these tracks by heart, in fact. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care and people who do." pronouns: she/her or they/them | never knows what to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 12/11/22 9:43:24 PM #6: |
MetalmindStats posted... Sounds right up my alley, at least! (see also: this week)You're welcome ;) I believe I could also rank it by heart, but why deny myself the opportunity to listen to a longtime favorite? --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 12/12/22 6:50:35 AM #7: |
She bop, he bop, we bop I bop, you bop, they bop --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 12/12/22 2:50:14 PM #8: |
First listen down. All I've listened to from Lauper is an Essential compilation that has the first six of these songs. Worth noting is that though the album is called She's So Unusual, there really isn't much "unusual" about this (it's standard 80s fare) or about Lauper herself by modern standards - but her eccentricities were foundational, pushing the envelope in the direction that would later give us the likes of Lady Gaga and P!nk, among many others. Her self-expression makes this album quite engaging, especially the four huge singles. Will do another listen later in the week - I think two is all I'll need here. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 12/12/22 4:29:47 PM #9: |
. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/12/22 4:37:51 PM #10: |
Now I need to figure out how to handle tiebreakers for the competitive rounds. What I want to do is have the rare tie simply mean both albums get covered, but that would mean occasionally pushing the schedule back. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 12/12/22 4:50:11 PM #11: |
FoolFantastic posted... Now I need to figure out how to handle tiebreakers for the competitive rounds. What I want to do is have the rare tie simply mean both albums get covered, but that would mean occasionally pushing the schedule back. Just flip a coin. Simple. If you make it so that ties mean ranking both then people could/will game their vote to make that happen. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 12/12/22 9:12:41 PM #12: |
First listen done. Can't say this one was doing too much for me. I've never been a fan of Lauper's big singles though, so that shouldn't be surprising. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/13/22 6:35:25 PM #13: |
1: Time After Time 2: When You Were Mine 3: Girls Just Wanna Have Fun 4: She Bop 5: All Through The Night 6: Money Changes Everything 7: Yeah Yeah 8: Witness 9: I'll Kiss You 10: He's So Unusual Well, obviously I like 80's pop, so it's no surprise that I like this album. It's very front-loaded, with not much of an interest towards the end of the album, but it has enough big hits that that isn't too much of a drawback. He's So Unusual: I don't see the point of this track. I have nothing against a cover of music from the 1920s, but why is it reduced to only 45 seconds in length & in such low quality that it's barely audible? It's not even a good intro to the next song, so I just don't even get why this is here. --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 12/13/22 6:57:44 PM #14: |
Raetsel_Lapin posted... He's So Unusual: I don't see the point of this track. I have nothing against a cover of music from the 1920s, but why is it reduced to only 45 seconds in length & in such low quality that it's barely audible? It's not even a good intro to the next song, so I just don't even get why this is here.Yeah, after two listens, I have to agree here. This is such a weird, unnecessary pace-changer that sticks out like a sore thumb. Yes, I like changes of pace, but they need to flow right. This does not. The album already had both upbeat pop and rock ballads, so it didn't need something like this anyway. If you're going to cover a song from the 1920s, it's a bad idea to make it sound like it's from the 1920s. Take a cue from Led Zeppelin doing "When the Levee Breaks" and completely transform it into your own thing instead of utilizing intentionally bad audio. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MetalmindStats 12/13/22 10:13:26 PM #15: |
ChichiriMuyo posted... You're welcome ;)Yes, thank you, and I certainly concur there. BlueCrystalTear posted... Worth noting is that though the album is called She's So Unusual, there really isn't much "unusual" about this (it's standard 80s fare) or about Lauper herself by modern standards - but her eccentricities were foundational, pushing the envelope in the direction that would later give us the likes of Lady Gaga and P!nk, among many others.I generally agree with this - certainly, I'd say its music tends to fit firmly within a specific mainstream mold, though distinguished by Lauper's voice. However, I do think the lyrics of many of these songs went hand-in-hand with Lauper's persona to cement her solo debut as, indeed, so unusual relative to what was radio-friendly in 1983. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care and people who do." pronouns: she/her or they/them | never knows what to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neonreaper 12/14/22 10:41:36 AM #16: |
One the best 80s albums! All Through The Night - They took a decent 70s singer/songwriter tune and turned into an 80s hit. My favorite song on the album. Time After Time - While I might prefer All Through The Night, I have to admit that Time After Time has gotta be her biggest song, perhaps her best song, and one of the essential songs of the 80s, if not all time! Money Changes Everything - I think the original version is actually fine, though a super flat production (especially compared to Lauper's version). Great opening track. Girls Just Want to Have Fun - A great cover of a song with a perspective shift. She Bop - I was way too young to realize that this song was about. Catchy tune and a terrific side b opener. When You Were Mine - this version slays Prince's original I'll Kiss You Yeah Yeah - I like the production a bit better here than the original but I guess I feel like there's a better version that hasn't been recorded. He's So Unusual - Heavy thematic ties for the album and a cheeky lead-in to Yeah Yeah but as a standalone track it can't compare to most of the other tracks Witness - I just don't get into this one --- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/15/22 10:10:39 AM #17: |
Time After Time Girls Just Want to Have Fun All Through the Night When You Were Mine Money Changes Everything Yeah Yeah Witness She Bop I'll Kiss You He's So Unusual --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/15/22 5:04:40 PM #18: |
neonreaper posted... When You Were Mine - this version slays Prince's original I wasn't aware this was a cover. I have a hard time imagining the song performed by a male singer because Cyndi's version plays with gender & sexuality in a way that made this one of my favorite songs on the album. The song would hardly be as enjoyable without those aspects; much like "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun", it's remarkable how Cyndi completely redefines the track. (Apologies if this double posts, site is freezing up whenever I try to post at the moment) --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 12/15/22 10:20:39 PM #19: |
The FUCK happened with the nomination voting?!? --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 12/15/22 10:26:39 PM #20: |
Seanchan posted... The FUCK happened with the nomination voting?!?If somebody is vote stuffing... for shame. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 12/15/22 10:34:54 PM #21: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... If somebody is vote stuffing... for shame.very lame thing to vote stuff for --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/16/22 1:00:13 PM #22: |
Johnbobb posted...
I just assume all polls like these are controlled by the Stuffer--who I choose to believe is one lurker dedicated to the total domination of all anonymous polling on the board. ....though apparently the last poll only had 16 votes in total, so this may be a new development. That or this is the first time the vote difference was severe enough that they had to cast more votes than usual to swing it. (And since things are currently tied, they may ont even be accomplishing whatever their goal was anyway). --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/16/22 1:28:41 PM #23: |
The Christmas album week had 26, this is at 34 with a better known album - but I don't quite believe there being that many die hard BMTH fans here. I might just drop anonymous voting going forward, especially considering we will soon be reaching competitive weeks. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 12/16/22 3:25:11 PM #24: |
Good - though uneven - album. The filler tracks toward the back don't work as well as the big singles, and feel like they're from a different album entirely given how they have male backing vocals galore that are absent from the front six. Only one song is particularly terrible, the hugely out-of-place kinda/sorta "title track" that's a cover of a 1920s song that feels like it was recorded in the 1920s. This serves no purpose whatsoever. Like I said before, if you're gonna cover an old song, make it sound new. Those last four songs really make me see no reason to deviate from a compilation - it seems like Lauper's album tracks tend to leave something to be desired. This is still a hugely influential album that deserved to be, but it's carried by the might of her singles, songs that have withstood the test of time despite sounding "definitively 80s" at this point.
FoolFantastic posted... I might just drop anonymous voting going forward, especially considering we will soon be reaching competitive weeks.tbh this might be the best idea. That way the people most involved in ranking get the power, instead of anonymous outsiders coming in to vote for the poll but never participating. Wouldn't surprise me if they picked things to mess with us sometimes. That might be why Mariah's album got more votes than I expected in the Christmas album poll given the audience here, though Lindsey still won (like I predicted, because as I said, she's "nerd culture's favorite violinist" by virtue of being one of us [and cute]). Also, the plan is to just have the three albums but not ID who nominated what in the next poll, right? We want people voting for albums as opposed to users, after all. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/16/22 3:53:42 PM #25: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... Also, the plan is to just have the three albums but not ID who nominated what in the next poll, right? We want people voting for albums as opposed to users, after all. Ehh, I think I'd like people to be able to hype up their album choices & say why they picked them. Forced silence feels incredibly un-fun... and considering how unique each person's posting styles are, you'd have to force an absolute "no talking about the nominations at all" to even try forcing anonymity. --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 12/16/22 4:11:23 PM #26: |
I dont think any of the regular rankers would not vote for an album because of who nominated it. If/when we go to non-anonymous voting, I think anyone should be able to vote. But maybe give someone who ranks an extra voteor half voteso that people who are invested get a little more sway. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/16/22 4:46:01 PM #27: |
Again, I don't want to give people bonuses for participating. I just want to be able to see who is voting so if any suspicious (as in, likely troll-alt) account shows up we can simply discard it. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 12/17/22 12:38:46 AM #28: |
Such an incredible album. It is absolutely pure 80s tripple distilled and 10 times filtered - the hard stuff. There is not a single song on this album I don't like, not even the quirky little "He's So Unusual." When a song that slaps as hard as "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" can still be topped by so many songs you know you're listening to pure gold. 1 Time After Time 2 All Through the Night 3 She Bop - Ain't no law against it yet ;p 4 When You Were Mine 5 Money Changes Everything 6 Girls Just Wanna Have Fun 7 Yeah Yeah 8 Witness 9 I'll Kiss You 10 Hes So Unusual --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 12/17/22 12:48:55 AM #29: |
Oh yeah, I did listen to this a few days ago, still need to do my ranking. MetalmindStats posted... However, I do think the lyrics of many of these songs went hand-in-hand with Lauper's persona to cement her solo debut as, indeed, so unusual relative to what was radio-friendly in 1983.Well, I guess this can't even be my favorite "boundary-pushing female vocal pop album of 1983" then. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 12/17/22 1:11:16 AM #30: |
So, imo, I think anonymous voting is still overall a good thing. There are probably a couple of lurkers that just don't want to participate but do want see what others have to say about the music they like. If such people are out there, I wouldn't want them to feel excluded. However, what has happened to this week's poll seems to be pretty obvious vote stuffing. When all of the regular voters had their say there was one very clear winner. Now somehow an entry with very few votes has moved up to first and the vote count is above norm? Yeah, that's obvious cheating. I absolutely would do that album if it won fair and square, but if we take this result as-is I'm dipping out that week in protest. I think we can use common sense reason here in order to determine which album won fair and square. Hopefully that will be enough to tell the stuffer that they are wasting their time. If we have to change things up, though, then we have to change things up. --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 12/17/22 1:19:57 AM #31: |
-hotdogturtle-- posted... Oh yeah, I did listen to this a few days ago, still need to do my ranking.I have an idea why you'd say that, but would rather hear it from you than assume. Also, despite the exact release date of the album, it was 1984 that Cyndi absolutely dominated (as in #1 artist overall, gender be damned) --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HBJDubs 12/17/22 1:31:23 AM #32: |
All Through The Night Time After Time Girls Just Want To Have Fun She Bop Money Changes Everything Yeah Yeah Witness I'll Kiss You When You Were Mine He's So Unusual Another top heavy album, and I feel like most pop albums we've ranked have followed this trend, although technically a song on the bottom side ends up taking my top spot, and pretty easily too. --- Save in the name of true love ~Project 1000~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/17/22 10:51:23 AM #33: |
Ween - Quebec results The participants sorted by deviation from final results: FoolFantastic (28) jcgamer107 (40) neonreaper (44) Raetsel_Lapin (46) Johnbobb (48) BlueCrystalTear (50) Seanchan (50) hotdogturtle (56) HBJDubs (66) MarkS2222222222 (68) MetalmindStats (68) General Album Comments Seanchan: I think Im going to need to see a doctor from the genre whiplash this album gave me. This is gonna be one of those albums where every song is in someones top 5 and someone elses bottom 5. Not an unenjoyable listen but one that will definitely need more listens to digest. the first song was like okay alright. Then the next is a complete tonal shift and its like okay one of THOSE albums. Then there was some stuff I was a little eh on. Then one that is COMPLETELY different than the songs around it and Im like the fuck!?! In reading their bio on Spotify this kind of seems like its their thing to be all over the map and not be pigeon holed. jcgamer107: Imo Ween's best album from start to finish. I would put the opening 3 tracks up against the first 3 tracks of any other album. If you don't like the style of the current song....just wait till the next one. BlueCrystalTear: First impression: A rare example of an album that has numerous stylistic shifts that isn't jarring so much as shocking how it can be pulled off. It's awesome in how it can shift yet still sound like a cohesive whole; for an extremely different reason than Green Day, the sequencing matters quite a lot, and a different order might've felt disjointed. Johnbobb: the first Ween album I listened to took at least like 4 listens to even know if I actually liked it. This one is similarly all over the place, but I think it's actually a little more comprehensible than that one was, with at least some stylistic similarities song-to-song, and just so many killer tracks along the way. They're so bizarre but I also really dig them, and Ween might be slowly squeezing its way into being one of my favorite bands neonreaper: I enjoyed this album. It's super quirky and dynamic, while having strengths that they go back to. The melancholy and introspective tracks stand out to me, as well as the atmospheric tracks. And the 'strange' songs keep things lively. After the first few songs in my ranking, I have a handful that I enjoyed more than the others. That said, I could see much of this list shuffling around based on mood. BlueCrystalTear: This album honestly feels like it took songs from four different projects and wove them together in the order they fit the best. On a song-by-song basis, it's quite strong, with only four and a half songs I'd consider not my jam for either being way too sleepy or like murder on my ears. Seanchan: There's a lot to like here, despite (or perhaps because of?) how manic it is with the genre changes. With that said, this isn't an album that's strong front to back. There's a tier of songs I like (my ranked 1-6), another tier I'm okay on (my ranked 7-10/11), and then the not so good ones (10/11-15). HBJDubs: Pretty evenly split here between songs I like and songs I don't. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/17/22 10:57:04 AM #34: |
Quebec track ranking 15. The Fucked Jam (Track #12) Score: 44 (Average Rank: 12/15) Biggest Fan(s): MetalmindStats (#5) Biggest Detractor(s): Johnbobb, hotdogturtle (#15) jcgamer107: Is it fucked? Yes. But is it a jam? Yes. Johnbobb: I got frustrated listening to this because my spotify when hooked up to my car sometimes randomly pauses itself or skips and I couldn't tell if that was happening or if that was part of the song BlueCrystalTear: Is this thing working? That's the point, I get it, but it's still weird. hotdogturtle: I would like this song if it had any more substance. But as of right now it's basically nothing at all. With just a bit more I could see this being like my #3 or something. 14. Captain (Track #9) Score: 56 (Average Rank: 10.91/15) Biggest Fan(s): hotdogturtle (#7) Biggest Detractor(s): jcgamer107, MetalmindStats (#14) jcgamer107: Captaaaiinnnnnnn....hurry up and skip this song BlueCrystalTear: zzzzz 13. Alcan Road (Track #13) Score: 62 (Average Rank: 10.73/15) Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs (#2) Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin, jcgamer107, FoolFantastic, Seanchan (#15) jcgamer107: The only forgettable track on the album BlueCrystalTear: Forgettable filler that goes on too long. A worse version of "Captain." 12. Hey There Fancypants (Track #8) Score: 63 (Average Rank: 10.27/15) Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin, Seanchan (#4) Biggest Detractor(s): neonreaper (#15) jcgamer107: Hehe funny fancypants song 11. Among His Tribe (Track #4) Score: 77 (Average Rank: 9/15) Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs (#4) Biggest Detractor(s): Johnbobb, Seanchan (#13) jcgamer107: Really cool soundscape here, especially in the bridge BlueCrystalTear: The first amazingly atmospheric song on the album, and for good reason since it's the best of them. 10. So Many People in the Neighborhood (Track #5) Score: 86 (Average Rank: 8.91/15) Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): BlueCrystalTear, HBJDubs (#15) jcgamer107: Paranoia in musical form Johnbobb: I cannot explain why I love this song as much as I do BlueCrystalTear: This is awful. Just awful. Sorry, Johnbobb. It feels like I'm taking acid and puking my guts out... it's also just six words long. hotdogturtle: I can see why some people wouldn't like this song (especially in the lyrics department), but if you give me a song that sounds like this on a mostly rock(?) album, of course I'm gonna like it. 9. Chocolate Town (Track #10) Score: 91 (Average Rank: 7.91/15) Biggest Fan(s): BlueCrystalTear (#2) Biggest Detractor(s): hotdogturtle (#13) jcgamer107: So soothing, a 10/10 song for summer driving with the windows down BlueCrystalTear: Hard to believe this country-rock song is on the same album as some of the others! 8. Zoloft (Track #2) Score: 95 (Average Rank: 7.36/15) Biggest Fan(s): MetalmindStats (#4) Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#13) jcgamer107: A little hypocritical, since, for a long time, Gene and Dean had no problem with recreational drugs lol. Still, it's a good song - definitely captures the 'uncomfortably numb' feeling some psych meds can give you. Gimme that P-R-O-Z-A-C. BlueCrystalTear: Would be higher if not for the weird sound effects that distract me too much. 7. If You Could Save Yourself (You'd Save Us All) (Track #15) Score: 101 (Average Rank: 7.45/15) Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): MarkS2222222222 (#15) 6. I Don't Want It (Track #11) Score: 106 (Average Rank: 7.09/15) Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): MarkS2222222222, MetalmindStats (#13) jcgamer107: relatable :( 5. It's Gonna Be a Long Night (Track #1) Score: 107 (Average Rank: 7/15) Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): MetalmindStats (#15) jcgamer107: This is how you start an album. I want this played at my funeral.... because I will instantly revive and start partying. A great tribute to Motorhead-type bands. 4. The Argus (Track #14) Score: 107 (Average Rank: 6.36/15) Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs (#3) Biggest Detractor(s): Johnbobb (#10) jcgamer107: To me this is like 'The Mollusk' 2.0 - another track that sounds like a folk song about some ancient mythical creature BlueCrystalTear: Something about this one feels familiar for whatever reason. 3. Happy Colored Marbles (Track #7) Score: 112 (Average Rank: 6.64/15) Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin, hotdogturtle (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): MarkS2222222222 (#12) jcgamer107: Love how it goes from weird psychedelic sound to an explosion of insane energy 2 minutes in BlueCrystalTear: First half is catchy as can be. The last minute is like somebody dropped a nuclear bomb on it, and this ruins the song. jcgamer (responding to BCT): this is a good description but I view it as a positive 2. Tried and True (Track #6) Score: 144 (Average Rank: 4.27/15) Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic, MarkS2222222222, MetalmindStats (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan (#8) jcgamer107: Very nice acoustic guitar BlueCrystalTear: A nice acoustic pace-changer. I like those better than the others. 1. Transdermal Celebration (Track #3) Score: 146 (Average Rank: 4.09/15) Biggest Fan(s): jcgamer107, BlueCrystalTear (#1) Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#10) jcgamer107: It's hard to describe how I felt the first time I heard the guitar solo. It was an overwhelming, spiritual experience, like God reaching down from heaven to take my hand and tell me everything's going to be okay. My 3rd eye was opened and I think I almost cried. BlueCrystalTear: This is just a banger. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/17/22 12:16:51 PM #35: |
Can we just cut my week entirely? Disqualify everything and either have the "BlueCrystalTear/darkx/neonreaper" week moved up by one to fill in or just take an official week off for the holidays? I don't want to deal with this and I don't want the host to deal with it either. Not quitting or removing myself from future cycles, but I think cutting the week entirely is the fairest and happiest solution remaining. --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 12/17/22 1:21:48 PM #36: |
Raetsel_Lapin posted... Can we just cut my week entirely? Disqualify everything and either have the "BlueCrystalTear/darkx/neonreaper" week moved up by one to fill in or just take an official week off for the holidays? I don't want to deal with this and I don't want the host to deal with it either. Not quitting or removing myself from future cycles, but I think cutting the week entirely is the fairest and happiest solution remaining.That doesn't solve the problem because the same thing could just happen next week or any other week. It's an issue that needs to be discussed ASAP. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raetsel_Lapin 12/17/22 1:38:46 PM #37: |
I imagine we just switch to public voting in the future as was discussed a few times. It's the only real choice; either anonymity is sacred enough that it's worth opening the door to bad faith actors or we need some level of accountability to prevent one person controlling everything. I personally have no qualms posting my votes publicly & that seems the fairest option. I just think this week's polling is sufficiently shot that I'd rather not redo it, nor do I wish to play a game of "guess which spike of 12 votes was the most illegitimate" because while I'll concede that it's probable Thriller has more legitimate votes I don't think there's enough evidence. This is a fun topic series and this week has been derailed in very un-fun ways and I'd very much like to move on completely. --- "Toothpaste is real and I hate everything in the world now."-MrCactuar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FoolFantastic 12/17/22 2:04:49 PM #38: |
I'll probably just redo this poll with open voting while also doing the next poll at the same time. --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 12/17/22 6:47:33 PM #39: |
So I must say, I'm pretty happy to see the way people have responded to this album overall. I actually considered putting All Through the Night as my number 1 as few of you have. I somehow had l this notion in my mind that I was the only one who loved that song as much as I do. I also agree to a point about He's So Unusual. It is easily the weakest track on the album. I don't think it's unnecessary, though. I actually think keeping it at that quality helps accentuate the sort of Betty Boop kind of quality that Cyndi has, though it might have been better as a "secret track" after the rest of the album had finished. --- "If you ever feel good about yourself, just look on the Internet." - Ryan Reynolds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 12/17/22 7:00:53 PM #40: |
It somewhat bizarrely feels too long to me, despite only being 10 songs and 38.5 minutes. There were quite a few songs where I love the intro and the first 30 seconds, then that fades and I look and there's still another 45 seconds of the song left. There's always a lot of repetition in pop music but it just grated on me here. Part of me wonders if this album was stretched out at all to hit some sort of minimum length. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 12/17/22 7:18:43 PM #41: |
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-hotdogturtle-- 12/18/22 2:28:17 AM #42: |
Girls Just Want to Have Fun I'll Kiss You When You Were Mine She Bop All Through the Night Time After Time Money Changes Everything - I think they ran out of ideas half way through and just added a few more choruses to extend the song. Yeah Yeah Witness He's So Unusual I've heard some of these songs before, but until this topic I didn't realize that 50% of the album was cover songs. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MetalmindStats 12/18/22 9:14:05 AM #43: |
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FoolFantastic 12/22/22 7:26:21 PM #44: |
Sorry, been very busy this week --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ Top 250 songs: https://foolfantastic.com/3290-2/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MetalmindStats 12/24/22 9:14:12 AM #45: |
Sorry this took me so long... Seanchan posted... It somewhat bizarrely feels too long to me, despite only being 10 songs and 38.5 minutes. There were quite a few songs where I love the intro and the first 30 seconds, then that fades and I look and there's still another 45 seconds of the song left. There's always a lot of repetition in pop music but it just grated on me here. Part of me wonders if this album was stretched out at all to hit some sort of minimum length.As much as I love this album, I don't necessarily disagree with this critique - but usually I feel that the extra time lends the songs in question a certain improvisational, almost freeform quality that I appreciate. On that note, and somewhat ironically given its extensive employment of synths placing it firmly in the 80s pop sphere, She's So Unusual never once feels manufactured to me. Lauper (who landed several solo record deal offers for her voice in her Blue Angel days) naturally sings her own case here by letting her nerves and rawness show at times. But this is an album that lives up to its characteristically striking cover-art all around, from its typically well-written and at times even quietly revolutionary lyrics to soundscapes that reward exploration in unexpected ways. Time After Time: Force me to name a favorite song over and over again, and chances are you have my continual choice right here, time after time if you will. I don't feel I could really do justice to all the reasons why, in fact. All Through the Night: In Lauper's hands, it feels like it's (fairly autobiographically) about being young and having dreams and wanting to reach for them together with another, a theme which Lauper illuminates with astonishing earnestness, sans a hint of sentimentality. That helps make for my favorite ever vocal performance, and also my single favorite song to sing along to. Girls Just Want to Have Fun: Its infusions of motown and reggae influences help musically outline the inclusively feminist point that its famous video pictorially reinforced - and, of course, there's Lauper's sheer exuberance and enthusiasm in serving up her message. There's no song I personally prefer dancing to, and nothing I'd rather have taken up as my topmost anthem of self-expression. When You Were Mine: Raetsel's comment covers pretty much everything I would have mentioned. She Bop: Oddly enough, its subject matter wasn't actually originally Lauper's idea. However, her teasing, playful vocal manner stands as proof positive of how she latched onto its perspective to make for the most purely anarchic fun here. Money Changes Everything: This jaunty, melodica-enlivened opener really showcases the sheer range of Lauper's influences, from Elvis Presley to Billie Holiday (on her vocals) and The Police to R&B in general (on the music) - and also the way she turns them into something new. Witness: Laupers performance brings an on-point combination of uneasy emotion and exuberant energy to bear, powering what could have been a throwaway album track and belying its somewhat happenstance inspiration. Yeah Yeah: I have a persistent soft spot for this off-kilter closer, which feels like its the result of everyone Lauper worked with asking her to include a duet, to which she agreed - in characteristic fashion. The results: a classically early 80s synthesized-sounding male vocal deliberately contrasted with an always-alive star in the making. I'll Kiss You: Catchy and generally fun, but trying for soulful synth made its music so aggressively stereotypically 80s even I can tell, and its lyrics have aged poorly in more ways than one. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care and people who do." pronouns: she/her or they/them | never knows what to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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