Board 8 > Would anyone be interested in setting up some multiplayer randomizers?

(+) Yeah! (+)

My answer depends on how well archipelago works with limited internet access, because next weekend I'll be at an overnight thing that I think I couldn't get wifi during the day last time (and during the week is, y'know, work)

It might be possible depending on the game. In Subnautica you need to be connected even join but the SNES ones might send/receive once you connected. Still, if you'll be busy one of the weekends it might work better to just do it another one. Do you mean you're busy this coming weekend or the one after that?

this coming weekend I am free, this coming week is an average work week, the 11th and 12th aren't great, but looking at it I think I could slam through on the 13th if we're running anyway

A good compromise might be starting Sunday early afternoon, then. I won't be able to begin until late in the day but that's the beauty of async. Those who want to will have a full weekend evening to start their game but we'll all probably bleed into the following week and maybe the next weekend. It also allows three days for anyone interested to check in.

Now taking sign-ups for the second B8 async multiworld randomizer. In addition to the previous ones, three new games are available: Super Mario 64, Raft, VVVVVV. The Archipelago website will have setup guides, please figure out your own game or get help in their discord. I'll make hints free again and allow forfeiting so no pressure if your game ends up not working out. Also, there's no reason why we should feel limited to one game or world if anyone wants to do more! Let me know if you want any changes to default yaml settings (or, if you have Discord and you're changing a bunch of stuff, I'm on the B8 discord and you can direct message me a yaml file). Lastly, the Archipelago client got a new version with the new games so you may need to update it depending on the game.

Participants so far:
1. Robazoid (Subnautica)
2. Robazoid (Minecraft)

I'll probably do Link to the Past this time. I'm tempted to do two, a keysanity seed and a swordless enemy shuffle seed. We'll see closer to the time, though. For those who played LttP last time, did progression feel particularly slow?

Gonna be weird playing anything closer to the base randomiser because I've been on a door randomiser binge the last year or so since it got stabilised, but I can't imagine some of those settings being manageable right now with how complex the logic for this must already be.

I will definitely play LttP, and provide a yaml either later today or tomorrow when I decide I'm done tweaking it.

I'm also interested in trying VVVVVV, but having issues getting it to run because I'm not on Windows. If I can resolve that, I'll try it. I'll follow up here when I know. If I can't figure it out by end of Friday, I'll give up on it for this.

Update: Dev's a bro, put me in for VVVVVV

I'll participate but have to decide what game. I'm curious how multiplayer games work in this (ie raft, mincecraft) or if you have to do singleplayer

I think I'll do one of those fancy weighted thingies (but it'll probably still be slay the spire) Just as long as I have the option to forfeit if it turns out I suck or am slow!

Minecraft randomizer is definitely multiplayer. I've actually tried it a few times with my nephew during my trip. He's not a huge help since he's 5 but he runs around while my brother and I focus on advancements, it has been fun. Only problem is that sometimes we disconnect and when we rejoin we get sent a full inventory of everything Archipelago thinks we should have. Not sure if that's Archipelago or my brother's internet. Still, not the worst thing to get extra diamond ore.

Raft is apparently multi-player too but I'm waiting until I get home to try it.

Raft seems like it probably should be multiplayer, but checking the discord I'm finding a bug report saying that only the host was getting resources and recipe. That report is two weeks old, so it very well may have been fixed. But buyer beware, check discord for more information.

Raft is one of those games where I'm not sure it'd matter if only one person got the recipes. It isn't like Minecraft where you're crafting all the time, and the raft forces players to always stay together so the host could make stuff for the others I think.

In that case, sounds like it should be good to me.

I'd never heard of Raft before it got added to AP though, and I still don't really know anything about it beyond it being some sort of crafting game, so I can't actually speak to it beyond what I've seen in the discord.

Sheep007 posted...

For those who played LttP last time, did progression feel particularly slow?

Also since I never actually answered this, it went at a pretty reasonable pace for me last time. I got held up at two major points, which was my Moon Pearl and (Go Mode) Hammer both being in other worlds, and this being async I just had to wait for the other player to get on and find them. My timer showed about 3 hours for a standard 7 crystals, which seems slow, but a decent chunk of that time was me practicing tricks and knocking off rust because I hadn't played lttp in a long while before this, as well as spending about 15ish minutes doing literally nothing except running around getting my in-game hint tiles (Default settings enable those!)

Probably the worst thing that can happen is needing to farm rupees to pay Zora without a glove available - Multiworld inherently means that you're less likely to pick up rupees out of random chests in your early game locations, and tree pulls/bush crabs are never guaranteed to have cash. I did this last time to buy you a deku shield, because I had nothing else to do waiting for my pearl <_<

I'm going to be housesitting, so I'll know if it's feasible for me to join in a couple days. If I can get this working on the old laptop I'll be using I'd be down for VVVVVV and Slay the Spire, two short ones that wouldn't need me to figure out emulation on that thing. Don't hold things up on my account though.

@HanOfTheNekos I know you like streaming Super Mario 64 Randomizer, and that Super Mario 64 rando is a possibility for the multiworld now... any chance you'd like to be part of the multiworld?

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I am absolutely up for this for this weekend or whatnot but I definitely haven't decided my game yet. The games I'm looking at are well, most of the snes or n64 ones.

I'd be down for this for Ocarina of Time.

Tomorrow I might tag people who participated in the last one or who showed interest throughout the topic so we don't miss anyone who stopped checking after the two week break

Participants so far:
1. RobazoidSub (Subnautica)
2. RobazoidMine (Minecraft)

Likely participants (let me know about any yaml changes or send me one):
3 and 4. Sheep007 (Link to the Past) maybe two of them
5. Reg (VVVVVV)
6. Reg (Link to the Past)
7. Colegreen_c12 (???)
8. Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire?)
9. JeffreyRaze (VVVVVV or Slay the Spire?)
10. Lolo_Guru (???)
11. Mewtwo59 (Ocarina of Time)

Just put me on default settings for lttp and v6 both. I had something more interesting in mind for lttp, but I figure if I'm gonna play two games I should keep it simple.

@NFUN
@BetrayedTangy
@HBJDubs

These are the people who either participated last time or showed definite interest since then. No pressure to participate this time, obviously, but I didn't want anyone to miss out because they werent checking the topic regularly

I'll think about doing Factorio again with different settings, and if not I'll do VGPHPI

If I don't say anything before the deadline give me rogue legacy. I'm considering risk of rain 2 (but i'm bad at it), orcarina of time (never done anything but a standard playthrough) and raft instead but can't decide

alright fuck it I'll do both

Factorio settings:
Goal: Rocket
Tree Layout: Random
Tech Cost Scale: Normal
Silo: Randomize
Satellite: Randomize
Recipe Time: Fast
Random Ingredient: Science Pack
Progressive Techs: ...Off
Progression Balancing: No

VVVVVV: Default

Colegreen_c12 posted...

If I don't say anything before the deadline give me rogue legacy. I'm considering risk of rain 2 (but i'm bad at it), orcarina of time (never done anything but a standard playthrough) and raft instead but can't decide

I wouldn't recommend OoT if you haven't done rando before. It's way longer (probably three or four times more) than most of the other games here, plus rando can have you doing things that are obnoxious and ridiculously time-consuming/awkward if you haven't played it recently (as I found out when we last did this even having played rando before, albeit a few years back). I don't think anyone would mind if it took you a bit longer, and we can always get hints so you know what to do if something important is in your game, but something to bear in mind from the perspective of your own sanity.

What's the best way to send you a yaml file?

Discord is probably best, I'm Robazoid on the B8 Discord server but you can also message me directly, Razgriz#0710

I'll have to pass on this particular one. I appreciate the tag though.

I want to play Super Metroid... though I also want to play Secret of Evermore again. (both; default settings are fine)

But I think that may be too much game for me to get through in a timely manner, so I might pare it down to just one, I'll decide before this starts.

I'll tag the people in the second section sometime tomorrow if they don't check in. Also, my brother participated last time and he wants in again as a Rogue Legacy, but I figured I'd ask if anyone had a problem with that. Half the fun of this is sending stuff to people you know, after all. But he'll be helping me set this multiworld up on Sunday before I even fly home and he really likes Archipelago so I'd like to give him a world if no one objects.

Participants so far:
1. RobazoidSub (Subnautica)
2. RobazoidMine (Minecraft)
3. Mewtwo59 (Ocarina of Time) got the yaml
4. NFUN (Factorio) various changes
5. NFUN (VVVVVV) default
6. Reg (LttP) default
7. Reg (VVVVVV) default
8. Colegreen_c12 (Rogue Legacy) default unless I'm told otherwise

Likely participants (let me know about any yaml changes or send me one):
9 and 10. Sheep007 (Link to the Past) maybe two of them
11. Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire?)
12. JeffreyRaze (VVVVVV or Slay the Spire?)
13 and 14. Lolo_Guru (SM or SoE or both?)

Your brother is Razenclaf, yeah? Nothing wrong with that imo

I'll (try to) do my own yaml today, gonna do one of those where it randomizes the game too (but heavily weight towards Spire because that's the only one I'm confident on lol)

My settings changes.

Game 1 -

Big Key Shuffle: Any World
Small Key Shuffle: Any World
Compass Shuffle: Any World
Map Shuffle: Any World

Game 2 -

Swordless - Yes
Enemy Shuffle - Yes
Heart Beep Rate - Quarter

I don't think VVVVVV is setting up right for me, at least I'm not seeing any progression gates even after setting up a multiworld to test it. I've got the startup settings working but I dunno. Sign me up for Slay the Spire with random character at least.

JeffreyRaze posted...

I don't think VVVVVV is setting up right for me, at least I'm not seeing any progression gates even after setting up a multiworld to test it. I've got the startup settings working but I dunno. Sign me up for Slay the Spire with random character at least.

There are a few spots that will block you from passing if you don't have trinkets. Basically the actual "levels" with named screens and colored regions on the map.

Yeah, I went to a couple and at the very least didn't see barriers at the entrances. If they're at the end of a stage I didn't take the time to check that.

You could try going to the Archipelago discord if you want to figure VVVVVV out, but sticking with StS works too

Participants so far:
1. RobazoidSub (Subnautica)
2. RobazoidMine (Minecraft)
3. Mewtwo59 (Ocarina of Time) got the yaml
4. NFUN (Factorio) various changes
5. NFUN (VVVVVV) default
6. Reg (LttP) default
7. Reg (VVVVVV) default
8. Colegreen_c12 (Rogue Legacy) default unless I'm told otherwise
9. Sheep007 (Link to the Past) swordless
10. Sheep007 (Link to the Past) keys
11. JeffreyRaze (Slay the Spire) random char

Likely participants (let me know about any yaml changes or send me one):
12. Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire?)
13 and 14. Lolo_Guru (SM or SoE or both?)

is it just me or is the "weighted settings" page borked

I'll randomize my game the ol' fashioned way I guess >_>

(edit: FF it is, oh boy oh man)

I've got the FF yaml. Just waiting to hear from @Lolo_Guru now. I'll generate the multiworld before I head to the airport around noon tomorrow.

Hey everyone!

I am Robazoid's brother, looking forward to another async with you all.

I had an old account and figured I would log in and post here.

I'll generate in 3 to 4 hours. Not sure what to do if @Lolo_Guru doesn't check in to let me know what game or games are preferred

Mobilezoid posted...

I'll generate in 3 to 4 hours. Not sure what to do if @Lolo_Guru doesn't check in to let me know what game or games are preferred

I'm here. Give me 10 minutes

wait I'm probably too late.
Secret of evermore default final answer.

We're doing the yamls now, not too late!

Room Link
https://archipelago.gg/room/qsIWkJTbRNWdN0hLv7OrLQ

Again, you should refresh the room link before you play to ensure the room is active as it goes dormant after six hours of inactivity. Hopefully I got everyone's settings right.

I'll start my games later today, have fun everyone!

I have connected properly this time, let's see if I can get a few early checks before everyone checks in. We have a discord room for this?

My brother sent a few items but then he got disconnected. Hopefully that's just his internet being funny and the multiworld is okay.

As for a discord, if someone wants to make a room they can. I don't know the process for getting a channel on the B8 Discord but if this becomes a regular thing maybe we can get one there.

Also I'm off to the airport now so I hope no one has any big problems.

Mobilezoid posted...

As for a discord, if someone wants to make a room they can. I don't know the process for getting a channel on the B8 Discord but if this becomes a regular thing maybe we can get one there.

Ping Luster Soldier and ask him to make one

Thanks for literally every mobility item in the game upon launch y'all

Thanks for giving me RED BELTS oh my god i never thought i'd be so happy to see them

Done everything before grinding pots for two items or PoD access on my first file. Onto enemizer now