Board 8 > Would anyone be interested in setting up some multiplayer randomizers?

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Colegreen_c12
01/17/22 3:08:02 AM
#101:


Yea that's probably what it was. I fought as many elites as possible and also got a boss relic from someone that was the black star (2x relics from elites). Looking at the tracker it looks like slay the spire is considered to have 31 drops vs 68-337 for the others which is interesting.

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Colegreen_c12
01/17/22 3:09:48 AM
#102:


Also for anyone curious this is what I ended up with. I had the first four items for the first act and started getting more in act 2
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Robazoid
01/17/22 3:20:39 AM
#103:


JeffreyRaze posted...
The multiworld tracker does have items found and where they were sent to, but only for NFUN for some reason and it's showing what stuff he'll get from things he hasn't done yet as well.

I finally figured out what this is too. NFUN's items are public knowledge, and I guess that area of the tracker lists all public knowledge items (it lists my laser cutter fragments now, too, because I hinted for them). I guess the server log only shows for the person who generates the world, and even then only on the very first link that opened it for some reason.

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Sheep007
01/17/22 3:37:16 AM
#104:


I literally got sent just about everything in the game in Link's House after just now starting it up. I can literally just go grab my ocarina, songs and then (almost) beat the game. I think I'm only missing Hammer, Mirror Shield and Boomerang. Will get every location I can but it may be a while (quite obviously considering it's OoT).

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Sheep007
01/17/22 4:16:32 AM
#105:


I don't normally use this controller due to running on console, but emulators make it physically impossible to precisely aim with slingshot and bow so I hope there's nothing important on the lost woods bullseye check. Any way to check that specific location within archipelago?

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Robazoid
01/17/22 4:19:54 AM
#106:


There is a spoiler sheet when generating the world. We have free hints for this run anyway so I don't see a problem in checking it for stuff like that. Assuming this is the check:

LW Target in Woods (Sheep007): 4 Diamond Ore (BetrayedTangy)

Also, yay, all ten of us got our games working! I was worried at least one of us wouldn't be able to.

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Sheep007
01/17/22 4:35:58 AM
#107:


Yep, that's the check, thanks! I assume that's not particularly needed, but if it is I'm sure I can figure out some way to get a controller working better.

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Tom Bombadil
01/17/22 8:16:27 AM
#108:


Beat it! Had a bit of a scare running into an endboss that got strength every time I played a Power, with my deck centered around spamming Powers >_> So....I'm done now, right? This was fun, would do again!

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Reg
01/17/22 8:17:57 AM
#109:


Tom Bombadil posted...
Beat it! Had a bit of a scare running into an endboss that got strength every time I played a Power, with my deck centered around spamming Powers >_> So....I'm done now, right? This was fun, would do again!
Yup. You're done, and anything you didn't wind up checking has been distributed out to who it needs to go to.
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BetrayedTangy
01/17/22 10:21:16 AM
#110:


Robazoid posted...
There is a spoiler sheet when generating the world. We have free hints for this run anyway so I don't see a problem in checking it for stuff like that. Assuming this is the check:

LW Target in Woods (Sheep007): 4 Diamond Ore (BetrayedTangy)

Also, yay, all ten of us got our games working! I was worried at least one of us wouldn't be able to.

I would call that necessary, but it would definitely speed up playthrough!

As long as you can hit the first bullseye, you shouldn't have to adjust anymore. I will say the Shooting Gallery's are absurdly difficult tho

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Sheep007
01/17/22 11:24:18 AM
#111:


BetrayedTangy posted...
I would call that necessary, but it would definitely speed up playthrough!

As long as you can hit the first bullseye, you shouldn't have to adjust anymore. I will say the Shooting Gallery's are absurdly difficult tho
The shooting galleries are absolutely fine because of the hitboxes being huge and having the patterns memorised. The issue is that on this emulator and controller combo I can't reduce sensitivity enough to actually aim in small enough increments to be able to get bullseye without a specific setup which I cannot for the life of me figure out. I'll give it another try if I end up nearby again but I've full cleared forest aside from that so it's unlikely. Have taken a break for a little while because lensless well for the first time in years was awful and still not having a shield which is required for basically every speed tech and faster movement I can actually pull off is killing me.

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BetrayedTangy
01/17/22 12:18:31 PM
#112:


Sheep007 posted...
The shooting galleries are absolutely fine because of the hitboxes being huge and having the patterns memorised. The issue is that on this emulator and controller combo I can't reduce sensitivity enough to actually aim in small enough increments to be able to get bullseye without a specific setup which I cannot for the life of me figure out. I'll give it another try if I end up nearby again but I've full cleared forest aside from that so it's unlikely. Have taken a break for a little while because lensless well for the first time in years was awful and still not having a shield which is required for basically every speed tech and faster movement I can actually pull off is killing me.

Yeah it's not a big deal, I might have even gotten some from other sources since last night.

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HanOfTheNekos
01/17/22 12:21:38 PM
#113:


I don't want to play an OoT multi-world rando unless it's chock-full of ice traps that get sent to the other player with max damage turned on.

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Reg
01/17/22 12:27:37 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
I don't want to play an OoT multi-world rando unless it's chock-full of ice traps that get sent to the other player with max damage turned on.
We can probably arrange it so that your game has tons of ice traps that we can all send to you! But OoT is the only game the system supports with Ice Traps (And there are no plans to add MM to it) so you can't send them to other players unless they're also playing OoT.
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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 2:58:03 PM
#115:


We're already over halfway through the 1650 total checks, not bad!

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BetrayedTangy
01/17/22 5:51:47 PM
#116:


Hey Roba, how do you access the hints?

I'm already pretty frustrated at a Creeper blowing up my Ender Pearls, and I really don't feel like finding a snow biome just to send 10 rupees to someone

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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 6:02:31 PM
#117:


You can hint for your own stuff, not what you'll send to others. I can check the spoiler page for that when I get home from work if you want.

In Minecraft, you might be able to do the command as a message, !hint (whatever you're looking for). So "!hint progressive resource crafting" should tell you where that is.

If it doesn't work in Minecraft, you might need to launch the Archipelago text client (which I'm pretty sure you need to install for Minecraft, it'll be in your Archipelago folder if you have one), then add the server address at the top, connect, enter your player name, and then you can do the hint commands in there.

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BetrayedTangy
01/17/22 6:07:48 PM
#118:


It just worked on Minecraft's chat thank you, next time we do one of these I'm definitely switching games lmao

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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 6:11:42 PM
#119:


Minecraft is one of my favorite games, even more than Subnautica, but the in-game achievements are not what I like to do in it! If you want, I could make a list of all the things you could send later tonight, it'll help you decide what's worth doing. You can also just wait for your stuff from others, beat the Ender Dragon, and then anything you haven't found should get automatically sent out.

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Lolo_Guru
01/17/22 6:13:14 PM
#120:


Ok about to start day 2 of Secret of Evermore. Saved right before the Nobilia bazaar.

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Tom Bombadil
01/17/22 6:18:21 PM
#121:


just for future reference how dumb an idea would it be to try LttP or Metroid or FF or Rogue Legacy having only dabbled in vanilla versions thereof

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BetrayedTangy
01/17/22 6:25:22 PM
#122:


Mobilezoid posted...
Minecraft is one of my favorite games, even more than Subnautica, but the in-game achievements are not what I like to do in it! If you want, I could make a list of all the things you could send later tonight, it'll help you decide what's worth doing. You can also just wait for your stuff from others, beat the Ender Dragon, and then anything you haven't found should get automatically sent out.

I like doing the advancements, there's just too many that rely on finding rare items. I probably would've ran with OoT had it not been for the recent Randomizer I did. I'll probably just start doing some mining, until Guru unlocks more of my crafting. If you could check these though that'd be great, because they're pretty obnoxious to get.

When Pigs Fly
Glow and Behold
Who's the Pillager Now?
Surge Protector
Light as a Rabbit

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Reg
01/17/22 6:25:38 PM
#123:


Tom Bombadil posted...
just for future reference how dumb an idea would it be to try LttP or Metroid or FF or Rogue Legacy having only dabbled in vanilla versions thereof
LttP is fairly straightforward if you're willing to use a map tracker type of tool as a reference for where you can go and what you can do. I'm also willing to help with it, and know pretty much everything a randomizer player would need, especially for getting started.

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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 6:25:41 PM
#124:


One of my friends is really good at Super Metroid and the other night he did a solo randomizer where his gravity suit was deep inside Maridia, forcing him to do most of the water areas without it. He says the game is always technically possible, but you need to know pro moves sometimes like wall jumps, bomb climbing, etc. Archipelago might have settings to generate games where progression is smoother, and of course the more players we have the more likely it is your stuff is in another world rather than your own. Super Metroid is another of my favorite games, but I can't wall jump no matter how many times the etecoons tried to teach me so I'm too scared to randomize it

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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 6:27:21 PM
#125:


BetrayedTangy posted...
When Pigs Fly
Glow and Behold
Who's the Pillager Now?
Surge Protector
Light as a Rabbit
I'll check these when I get home, so about six hours

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Reg
01/17/22 7:21:07 PM
#126:


Ok, so I just realized that lttp default settings has hint tiles on, so I just ran through and did all of them (Except Turtle Rock's) while I wait for a hammer/book/shovel to show up to open new checks on my end

Almost all of them were things I already knew, but I did learn two things:

1) My Shovel is at "W Crustacia 106" in Lolo's game, but I don't know anything about Secret of Evermore so I don't know how out of the way that is for him. It only unlocks one check for me, but I don't know what it is and it could be critical for somebody.
2) My Ganon's Tower Big Chest has Beacon Fragment for Roba. Again, don't know Subnautica so I don't know how helpful this info is, but frankly if you need it, that's so close to the end of lttp that I'm likely to just finish the game out normally and let the auto-collect-on-completion stuff grab it for you.
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NFUN
01/17/22 7:24:32 PM
#127:


what the fuck how could you

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/7/AAcM16AAC0WT.png

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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 7:27:57 PM
#128:


Yeah I don't need a beacon. At this point it's mostly just my two laser cutter fragments in Lolo's game, then one more Neptune Rocket part, one more Cyclops hull fragment, and ion batteries. I'll hint for those later if needed but laser cutter comes first

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Reg
01/17/22 7:31:47 PM
#129:


Mobilezoid posted...
Yeah I don't need a beacon. At this point it's mostly just my two laser cutter fragments in Lolo's game, then one more Neptune Rocket part, one more Cyclops hull fragment, and ion batteries. I'll hint for those later if needed but laser cutter comes first

I'll probably hint my hammer when I go to bed tonight if I haven't yet received it. That's blocking basically the rest of the game for me.
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Lolo_Guru
01/17/22 7:43:51 PM
#130:


Reg posted...
1) My Shovel is at "W Crustacia 106" in Lolo's game, but I don't know anything about Secret of Evermore so I don't know how out of the way that is for him. It only unlocks one check for me, but I don't know what it is and it could be critical for somebody.
Going that way next, actually.

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BetrayedTangy
01/17/22 8:29:25 PM
#131:


Finally found hella Iron Ingots in a sunken chest, now I can skip a crafting check

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Reg
01/17/22 8:46:24 PM
#132:


Ok, I went ahead and just hinted my hammer since it is now literally the only thing I need to clear my game

It's at "Ivor Houses #228" in Lolo's game, so if you could prioritize that it'd be awesome <_<
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Lolo_Guru
01/17/22 9:06:15 PM
#133:


I'm pretty sure Ivor's house is in the third continent, but the only landing point there that I can see with the flying machine is the place where I get the flying machine, and I couldn't find a way to work back from there to the towns sadly. I'll keep at it.

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Lolo_Guru
01/17/22 11:17:19 PM
#134:


Welp, I've been rocketed into space for the final area. >_>

I'm 99% sure there's no going back from here. So I guess I'll be getting those checks (such as Reg's hammer) by completing my game?

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Mewtwo59
01/17/22 11:19:03 PM
#135:


There has to be something, because putting a game with a point of no return in a multi-world randomizer is one of the silliest things I've ever heard of.

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JeffreyRaze
01/17/22 11:22:50 PM
#136:


Finishing the game automatically completed all my checks at any rate.

I'm wishing I had chosen a longer game, or at least one where items recieved opens new places to check. I really enjoyed things and finished too early.

Tom Bombadil posted...
just for future reference how dumb an idea would it be to try LttP or Metroid or FF or Rogue Legacy having only dabbled in vanilla versions thereof

Rogue Legacy is much faster to do in this one because the stats come in bundles of five. As long as you don't get completely screwed by not getting either the blacksmith or the enchanter you'll get buffed up pretty fast overall. I'd say go for it.


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Colegreen_c12
01/17/22 11:24:13 PM
#137:


Yea I kind of wish I did a different game as well, or at least a moderately level ascension.

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Lolo_Guru
01/17/22 11:29:24 PM
#138:


I probably would have had more fun with Super Metroid or one of the Zeldas. But this experience hasn't been completely terrible.
Mewtwo59 posted...
There has to be something, because putting a game with a point of no return in a multi-world randomizer is one of the silliest things I've ever heard of.
On the other hand I completely agree with this. If I am stuck here it is extremely dumb.

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NFUN
01/17/22 11:36:45 PM
#139:


JeffreyRaze posted...
Oh hey, clearing the game just auto finished all the checks in my game I guess


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NFUN
01/17/22 11:37:38 PM
#140:


i'm stuck without being able to make lubricant. Cannot believe that this is the bottleneck but that's how it be

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Mobilezoid
01/17/22 11:40:23 PM
#141:


Yeah, I don't know anything about SoE but push on and beat the game if you can, you'll send us all our items that way too

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Lolo_Guru
01/18/22 12:08:12 AM
#142:


Yeah, ok, so apparently I've made if off the space station (with an upgraded mode of transport, no less). Back to everything else.

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Robazoid
01/18/22 12:30:55 AM
#143:


BetrayedTangy posted...
When Pigs Fly
Glow and Behold
Who's the Pillager Now?
Surge Protector
Light as a Rabbit


When Pigs Fly (BetrayedTangy): Rupees (5) (Razenclaf)
Who's the Pillager Now? (BetrayedTangy): 16 Iron Ore (BetrayedTangy)
Glow and Behold! (BetrayedTangy): fusion-reactor-equipment (NFUN)
Surge Protector (BetrayedTangy): Petal (Lolo_Guru)
Light as a Rabbit (BetrayedTangy): progressive-logistics (NFUN)

I don't know about NFUN or Lolo's stuff but five rupees and 16 iron both look skippable!

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Robazoid
01/18/22 1:03:56 AM
#144:


Also this is going beyond what you asked, but if you want some Minecraft goals these are the ones that looked most important. From what I can tell at least, there were various progressive things for NFUN that might be important and rupees/hearts/arrows for the LttP/OoT trio and a bunch of Secret of Evermore stuff that I don't know about, but at a glance I think these are important.

Bee Our Guest (BetrayedTangy): lubricant (NFUN)
Sticky Situation (BetrayedTangy): progressive-science-pack (NFUN)

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Lolo_Guru
01/18/22 1:25:01 AM
#145:


Reg's hammer has finally been procured!

And petals are definitely not important; it's the game's equivalent to a potion.

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NFUN
01/18/22 2:03:56 AM
#146:


don't need progressive science pack (this one is post-game) but i do need lubricant if we want to win

progressive logistics is very good but at this point i'm almost done and it'll be funnier to say that i beat the game without one of the most basic and essential techs

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Robazoid
01/18/22 2:27:20 AM
#147:


Thank you for finding me my laser cutter, Lolo! I'm at 118/130. Two of them need a propulsion cannon and the last ten are super deep. I know from experience that I could get them by loading up with seven air tanks and just going for it, but that was miserable the one time I did it so I'll hold out hope that someone will find my last mobile vehicle bay fragment and a vehicle upgrade console so I can make a Seamoth.

I'm glad I got my laser cutter items though. I know that Reg would have really struggled to beat the game without that Boss Heart Container I sent!

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Lolo_Guru
01/18/22 2:53:41 AM
#148:


Calling it a night. As far as I know, I'm in go mode for this game, just have to get back into space but it's already quite late and I have to slog through a dungeon or two before I can reach the ship again.

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Sheep007
01/18/22 4:48:54 AM
#149:


Gonna be back on in a few hours to get my last few songs and start dipping in the dungeons I can't finish so I can just run through them when I get what I need. Will probably use hints on my boomerang/mirror shield/hammer too so I know if I should just wait for Reg or Lolo or someone to finish up.

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Reg
01/18/22 7:09:11 AM
#150:


I'm gonna just rush to the finish of my game before work here real quick. Should be done within 30 minutes unless something goes badly
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